Babel Movie

# 87 | Original Curious"I never liked TC, but, he really went down farther in my books when he left KH and baby right after the birth."As you know, that’s become Keith Olbermann’s standing joke about Tom Cruise favoring self-promotion even as he spent 3 hours plus telling the press and fans that he liked spending time with his family…while leaving his family at home to themselves. I don’t know about Katie, but maybe it’s best Tom limits his time with them. Good gracious with all that Scientology auditing and we still have wacked-out Cruise lacking self-awareness, resulting in his career implosion. # 279 | Passing Through"Also, I have an aunt who was a foster mother to dozens of kids and adopted four of them. She’s well into her 80s now and doesn’t have a problem with how Angelina is raising her kids."Nice personal testimony from someone we actually know instead of a anonymous hater who could be posting from a "corrections facility." Rest of your message, spot on!# 318 | JustinfromTedCOkay, Teddy C., you’re a gossip writer not a relationship expert so save the predictions for relaying so-called leaked gossip. I actually can’t stand his cutesy-in-his-own-mind Tedisms, so I don’t read his columns regularly - maybe only once in a blue moon. I don’t have a problem with his gossip per se, but leave the snarky, caustic writing to Lainey. AG, you’re not missing anything of Ted’s isms. I think he’s the only one who thinks he’s being witty when wit ran away from him when ink hit paper. No, I’ve always thought that about his phrases even before he said anything about Brad and Angie. My allegiances and likes or dislikes aren’t fickle.

# 282 | gulli thanks guli for this video…oh silly me…you know i cried while watching this video…i keep replaying it…it is so romantic…and i really believe that these two finally found each other…i cried with happiness…crazy ha?? Now at last angie found her soul mate…whatever the circumstances that brought them together…nobody can deny that they love each other…both of them are in the peak of their career and it seems like a career suicide to be seen together but they chose to be with each other and didn’t care what others were saying…despite all the backlash…criticism…hate…negative comments, they remained quiet and never rebutted nor explained their side of this saga/sideshows because they know each other…what they want and expect from each other…love, support and respect…imo…they are so in love and I love them…sigh…I can’t wait for the new baby’s arrival!!Bamz+1 rocks and rules!!

I’ve found this commentary on the Defamer site that is foretelling bad omens even of the fixed-up BreakUp ending. Vince and X should just throw in the towel and lose the charade of still dating just for the movie. So I read on Defamer that test audiences hated the end of the movie because Jen and Vince don’t stay together…but I saw a test screening of it last night at Universal (yeah, I was recruited at AMC in Burbank), and at the panel afterwards, pretty much everyone HATED the new ending they tacked on to make it seem like they got back together…and I mean hated it.Defamer

# 346 | cat Cat, I really don’t think we’re that far apart in what we’re saying. The problem that I have with the red carpet personas that BP/JA projected is that, especially for X supporters, that’s ALL they see…the superficial. I don’t go over to the X threads because quite frankly I’d rather slit my wrists than waste time over there with that crowd. But, they come to the BAMZ threads in droves to tell us how bad BP looks now with AJ and how golden he was with X. WTF does it matter how he LOOKS if the man wasn’t HAPPY? That’s the bottom line. Looks can be deceiving and in their case it was. BUT, the X fans don’t see it that way. They think all the problems in that marriage started and ended with AJ and refuse to acknowledge the serious problems that existed in the marriage for 2 years prior to AJ working with BP on M&MS. If you point that out to them, then their entire rebuttal will be about how bad BP looks now compared to then. The guy cleans up nicely, but they won’t admit that either. As far as the charity issue, the fact is this…if X is involved in some kind of charitable endeavor, then she’s hiding it like it’s one of the seven deadly sins. Most celebs use their celebrity to further their causes. X has never done this and you have to ask yourself why? Are there no mysteries to this woman? Is everything in her life really about HER? And if so, then it’s no wonder her marriage failed. There comes a point in your life where you look around and see the world isn’t all about you and apparently BP’s was at that place BEFORE he met AJ and working with her illustrated to him how much better his life could be if he opened himself up to helping others. From what I can gather it’s something that he discussed with X and she pretty much blew him off. It wasn’t glamorous enough and it did nothing to further her career, plus she’d have to leave home to do it, so why bother? You asked what’s wrong with her wanting a successful career. Well, nothing’s wrong with it. But don’t spend 7 years with a man knowing he wants children and continually put him off and expect him to wait forever for you to be ready. He gave her the time and space she wanted for 7 years, even approached her about adopting and the one time he asks something in return she says, "What about my career?" That bull. If you love someone and you’re committed to making the relationship work, then you compromise. As an outside observer, to me, it looks like HE did all the compromising and let her have her way. When he thinks they’ve reached an agreement to start a family she goes behind his back and signs up for 3 movies in addition to the 3 she’s already got on her plate? Where’s the compromise in her? I don’t see it. And having said that about X/BP, I certainly hope that AJ doesn’t follow that same pattern of behavior because admittedly she is stubbornly independent, but her issues are a whole other topic.As for the tanning thing…well, come on. X tans like it’s a religious experience. That’s all this woman is ever seen doing - tanning, going to get her hair done, shopping, walking the red carpet…and now drinking and gambling with VV. BP & AJ are tanned because they’re on vacation in Africa. They’re not sitting topless on their patio in a bikini drinking margaritas and talking to their friends on the phone. Or going to the beach to yell at the ocean or whatever that lame-ass thing was she said she was doing. Let me be clear…I don’t have a problem with being tanned. My problem is with why she’s spending so much time tanning. Oh, because she thinks it makes her look better, that’s why. Once again, we’re back to the superficial and shallow and ME, ME, ME, ME, ME attitude that X displays all the time. It’s tiresome and boring and shallow. Like I said…with X…what you see isn’t only what you get, it’s all there is.

Well said PASSING THROUGH… And we do hope these freaks will read it. If they believe it then good & if not well that’s their problem. Sometimes we think like no matter how thorough your explanations & reasoning you put into it, "these" haters will not accept it. Their minds are fixed just on one narrow lane. Even the rule of law you have to listen to all the evidences, right? But most of them cannot comprehend & will not get an open mind. We guess HATE IS THE BIG FACTOR to this. It is sad but it is true.

# 361 | AddictedtoBAMZ+1I forgot what BAMZ thread I read the protests about the winning entries for the Mother’s day poem besides that poem thread itself, and then I remembered I wanted to leave a message about it. So, I’m gonna piggyback on your message, AddictedtoBAMZ+1, to put a different spin and perspective on it. *Putting on my Simon Cowell hat* As much as the winning entries blow, in the end, it’s a contest Jared didn’t have to put on. So it’s his choice of who is the winner and I don’t think he’s made any pretenses what his taste is. Regardless of the winner, you all who participated have to admit you had fun coming up with your haikus (me, I’d rather commit hari kari as I’m not into poems either). For several days, you were enjoying it. Instead to all the ladies who submitted genuinely lovely poems, go buy your moms and yourself to a moth orchid in celebrating Mother’s Day. You can’t go wrong with moth orchids except with my mother, who doesn’t have a light hand in watering. Treat yourself well, and forget about the poem contest. I’ll bet it would get interesting if Jared offers a contest awarding the unrated MAMS DVD for the person predicting the most accurately on the Jolie-Pitt baby.

# 351 | African GirlHi! I know that not only Jennifer who is being bashed. I used to visit other celebrity gossip forums which I’m no longer interested because of too idiotic bashing and rudeness. They seem to gain some happiness from bashing celebrities. They tried so hard to find Angie’s physical flaws and bashed her (Her arms were ugly). But unfortunately, that’s the same thing some Brangelina fans and Jennifer haters do as well.Maybe you don’t see it, but from my observation lately, it’s been so obvious about Brangelina being idealised and glorified. Brad and Angie may have more in common than their previous spouses which makes it seem like they’re so absolutely perfect and compatible in most fans’ opinions.And if Brangelina and Angie are oh-so-perfect, in their opinions, Brad’s previous marriage and Jennifer must be so awful. Strangely, I’ve never seen Angie’s previous marriages and ex-husbands being bashed like this before, even though the reason of break-up (for BBT case) was not much from Brad and Jennifer. Their priorities are appparently different.But like other normal couples, I believe that Brad and Angie have issues/conflicts that they need to work out. I don’t think that they don’t see each other’ flaws. I don’t know how far they want to compromise and be patient with each others. And I don’t even want to speculate whether the overexposure and public obsession of their relationship will affect their career and relationship or not. I hope they manage to make it work.Re: the red carpet thing. I think that each couple has their own way in dealing with their problem. Some couples may give up immediately after a couple of fights. Some couples may try to work it out until it’s obviously hopeless. Have you ever read Lainey’s column which seems pretty popular among Brangelina fans? She often mentions the trouble behind Reese Witherspoon and Ryan Phillippe’s marriage. You may or may not agree, but I have seen their candid pictures for years, and they’re always on their own. Well, besides their latest pictures together, suddenly during the award season, they’re together in several premieres/award shows. I think that even with their trouble, it didn’t mean that he didn’t want her to win. Like other movie stars, they knew that the public image is important for their career and crucial for her during that time. And Ryan was willing to support for that. I’ve never seen anyone here or elsewhere accusing them as being superficial. That accusation seems to only be used for Brad-Jennifer relationship."I’m sorry but where do you get that from?"From one of Angie Fan Forums. I wanted to check Brangelina news. It irritates me because when Brad being supportive to his wife/partner, it comes back and bites his ass, consistently being bashed by bother fans and haters.Re: charity. I know what you mean. Maybe it’s just too overexposed or people always look for bad things from people they hate. But what about the latest annoying trend that some fans (or even haters) seem love to accuse other celebrities who show any interests in charity or wearing black that OMG! HOW DARE THEY COPY ANGIE? And if they don’t show any interest, they will be accused of being so shallow and never be as great as Angie. This is no-win situation. And not only Jennifer who always wears black, one of Brad’s ex-girlfriend, Gwynneth Paltrow often wears black as well, like most of New Yorkers. Are Angie Fans going to accuse her and others too? "Are you the same person from the Rumors thread?"No, I’m not. This is only thread I commented.

#282 Guli: I tried to view but message shown was vid unavailable. Do you have the date of the video?

this man wants tomkat baby money, britney baby money, lindsay logan pic money….all celebrity pics MONEY for HIS cause.

Personally. I never liked her. But when she hooked up with Brad I was completely fascinated by them both and I think their union is the most exciting thing to come out of Hollywood in a LONG TIME. But I thought that if he hooked up with her then she must have turned a corner and was no longer the total nut job that she was, and even though she’s been more dignified (the dateline interview notwithstanding), she’s still a little nuts and IMHO very selfish. It has never sat right with me that she high-tailed it out of the US and completely shut out his family (and hers too, for that matter) from experiencing this pregnancy with her. If she cared at all in getting to know the Pitt family and becoming a part of their family, then this is an odd way to do that. If Jane Pitt is still in regular contact with Jennifer, then Angelina is partly to blame. If Jane doesn’t care for Angelina, then who could blame her? Brad is her oldest child and the last to have kids and it’s a momentous thing in a family for your oldest son to have children and since they are so close, I think they always assumed they’d be a part of this. This must be terribly disappointing for them.If Brad and Angelina break up, her life will go on as it was and as I think—deep down—she prefers it: totally independent and beholden to no one but her kids. She’ll re-acquire her lovahs and Shimizu will again meet her in the jungles of Cambodia and she’ll be ok. Brad will have to deal with the fact that his kids are in the jungles of Cambodia with Shimizu and will go in the record books as the children who have seen the inside of most of the airports in the world and he’ll have to go chasing them all over the world just to spend time with them. He won’t be ok. But then again, that’s if they break up.

# 370 | jizzyYou sound a lot like Angelina’s Fans who don’t care for Brad. She in all likelihood did not persuade him to leave the country, they probably made the decision together. Their time spent in Europe after Davos was probably HIS idea since he’s been heard said in the past that he likes France in the winter. Brad likes to travel as much as Angelina. What they probably didn’t expect is that the PAPs would make their stay unbearable there as it was in the US. Africa was probably her idea as she has many ties there due to her humanitarian work. I’m not gonna try dissuade you of your opinion of Angelina since you hold it very close to your heart. But I will say that Brad has never and probably will never live in his family’s pocket. The most important family unit is the one he has right there in Africa.

jizzy sounds like that chick frose7 at bradforums. enough said.