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Good Morning All,#364 / CatHi cat, as I read your post, a childhood memory flashed in my head. I hope you don’t mind but I’d like to share. When I was much younger, my cousins and I would spend part of of our summer vacs with my grandmama. I had this cousin, we were age mates and in the same grade. Anyway, my cousin would the most inane things and she’ll get away with it but I, on the other hand would be called on my silly mistakes. My grandmama would say "how can you do that eh? You don’t use the head God gave you anymore? If u have no use for it, then you’re telling God he made a mistake." Harsh? Yeah a little bit and I didn’t understand why. Finally I got tired of my cousin getting away with things and asked my grandma why she doesn’t tell my cousin to use her head. You know what she told me? She said she felt I should know "better". What? What in the world does that mean? I thought, so I sat back and tried to figure it out, it wasn’t about me, it was about my cousin. See, my cousin, to put is very delicately is not the brightest, she’s one of those people who always seem to be in their own world, she looks at everything through rose colored glasses and doesn’t believe anything is bad. I mean, if you told her you just saw a dinasour on your way in, she say "really? I thought they no longer existed. I guess they were wrong" Yep, she’s that naive and that’s why she was never called on her….you know. Now you see why my grandma said I should know better, back then I thought So, they fact that she’s like that shouldn’t mean she could just go about her business doing stupid this but now, in retrospect I see it as a compliment. It’s already established that I was smarter and thus should know better……a little unfair but can a girl do. I bet you’re wondering how this fits into the matter at hand, well from where I stand, it seems to me that you’re saying AJ fans should know better because frankly, the things you’ve stated that we do, are also the same things JA fans do. Earlier in my what I like to call my "BAMZ loving" stage, I visited all the websites the gossipist, Jossip, Superficial…e.t.c. Then I stumbled into JJ and that was it. All the other websites had nothing to offer, I found the posters on JJ to be well mannered, articulate and intelligent. Of course there are the occasional rotten apples but that’s to be expected in any sort of gathering. My first post here was as a mediator, someone had written something and another poster had taken the poster’s comment out of context and was ranting about how ignorant the first poster was. I felt compelled to write something, so I did. I told the angry poster in the nicest possible way that she’d had taken the message the wrong way, I tried to explain and you know what I got back…..something akin to "whatever". Anyway over the course of the weeks….months, I noticed something, JA fans would come on the threads and post something very ridiculous comments like "why does she wear black all the time. Get some colors lady" I generally ignore this comments but some BAMZ fans (bless their hearts) will try to explain that if you are raising children under 5, your best bet would be dark colored clothes for obvious reasons. Cat, I ask, is this a very reasonable response? Well, not for the JA fan’s, their response "no she wears black because she’s weird and she’s the black widow" Oy veh, what kind of thinking is that? I don’t know about you but idiotic reponses like that get on my nerves and I know it does to a lot of AJ fans because the responses that pouring with questions like "what the hell does that mean? Are you really that stupid?" not insulting but genuinly wondering. They now respond that "Oh, AJ fans are in denial, they don’t want to see the truth" half the time, I leave the site thinking…..wait a minute, what just happened, are these people serious……Nah, I probably read it wrong. The next set of new pictures would come in and again the comments "Oh, look at that, Brad he looks like ****, when he was with JA, he always looked nice" and to prove their point, they’ll provide a link to pix……of JA & BP together on the red carpet. Hmmmm, let’s see, we are comparing the pictures of Brad Pitt on the red carpet to the pictures of Brad Pitt in the Park…..with muddied jeans……playing with a 4 yrs old. Oh, well then, case closed, judgement in favor of JA fans. Of course, the folly in their arguement will be pointed out by an AJ fan saying "Hello, they are on the red carpet. Everyone looks good on the red carpet, we don’t see pictures of him with JA anywhere else, doing other things except the ones from the red carpet" I hope you see how we got to the red carpet issue. Now, any reasonable person will see that kind of response and go hmmm, well there’s some truth to it but Nah, not these people. They come back with responses like this "Yes, that’s why they were the golden couple in Hollywood because they looked good together"……looked being the operative word here. At this point, I’m cursing in my head and thinking "what type of superficial BS is this?" Cat, I beg you to answer honestly, in the grand scheme of things, what is the Red Carpet Walk? What does it stand for…it’s purpose?Okay, let’s flip it to their side. A new picture of JA is posted, she’s wearing Black and the comments made by her fans go something like "JA always looks good in black"…..please feel free to laugh because I did and I still am. Seriously, do this people have short term memories? They just got done calling another person weird and black widow because she was wearing black and now they’re going on and on about how JA looks good in black. Again, do you see how the wearing of black comes into the issue? Sometimes, in an attempt to make them see reason or dig themselves deeper, a poster would say "why is she suddenly wearing black, is she trying to copy AJ" the responses are quick "No, JA is always wearing black, she’s not trying to copy anybody" at this point I’m thinking Ah ha, always wearing black you say? Why, she must also be weird and a black widow. I hope to God, you are getting my point. It’s not as simple as you made it sound, this isn’t grade school where everything has to be spelt out. Sometiem, I’m thinking hopefully when the see how stupid my response is, they’ll realize how stupid they also sounded making the exact statement. Unfortunatly, they never seem to….or maybe they do but just don’t care. I’ve noticed that some JA fans seem to think they are allowed to operate under a different set of rules.On the issue of all the other celebrities "copying AJ charity work, I don’t think majority of AJ fans think like that. You say it’s been written on other sites, I won’t disagree with you on that but I’d like you to remember that these are just a few and it would be unfair to paint everyone with the same brush and besides, we are all individuals with different maturity level and understanding. For some, they became aware of AJ’s work with the UN just recently and they are wowed by it. Now, that it’s been brought to their conciousness, everything else will come after it. I don’t know if I make sense, but what I’m trying to say is for them AJ’s charity is the starting point of their awareness of charity work, so when they hear about GC’s it automatically goes to second place, then in comes Matt Damons, which rolls to third place. Now they’re thinking, well why is everyone suddenly copying AJ….totally forgetting that, even though they just found out about this, it doesn’t mean the whole world just did. I believe one of Piaget’s theory of cognitive development comes into play here. You know that stage in children, where they think everyone sees the world like they do. This is not an insult of some sort, I just trying to what I think is going on here. Idiolize and Glorify. For some reason, I’m having a problem with these words. To admire people for the good things they’re doing isn’t glorifying them. My Goodness, it’s not like people pray and sing holy hymns to them. As a matter of fact, I believe that we (I can safely speak for the other posters on this board) see them as any thing but perfect. In my opinion, it’s those people who can’t seem to let go of any alleged mistake, that have idiolize and glorified. They put BP on a pedestal and can’t understand why he fell. They’ve cast AJ as the serpent who made their god a sinner. I mean if they really understood that to err is human, we won’t be having this discussion. I understand about people hurting but not like this….especially when it’s because of the break up of what the saw as "The Golden Couple". I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, when I hear those words the first thing that comes to mind is statuettes.I feel sorry for JA for obvious reasons but I know she’ll get over it some day…..if people would allow her to. They seem to think this is the end of the world for her. She had a life before BP and she still has one now.

# 379 | African Girldon’t apologize. you did well.i would just like to say that it’s the hypocrisy, vulgarity and cruelty of certain ja fans and anti-bamzers that upsets me. fine, they don’t like bamz for whatever reason. but that doesn’t make them superior beings and give them the appointed duty to come here and s**t all over people who do. in fact, anyone who spends their time over on a fan site just to be crappy to that celeb’s devotees needs some help. now, i understand that it can be difficult for us BAMZ fans to not look at a ja thread, because our favorites and their "misdeeds" always end up as subject, but there are individuals whose only fun is to criticize celebrities. that’s sad.as for ja. i don’t like her. never did. never will. i am only bemused by the situation she has put herself in. how the gold has tarnished–must’ve only been copper. but, i see no reason for BAMZ fans to be upset by anything she does anymore. she’s no threat. she’s the ex and that’s not changing. brad’s happy. angie’s hysterical. the kids are loved and well-cared for. the ignored people of the world have champions. needless to say–i am content.

# 378 | African Girl Idiolize and Glorify. For some reason, I’m having a problem with these words. To admire people for the good things they’re doing isn’t glorifying them. My Goodness, it’s not like people pray and sing holy hymns to them. As a matter of fact, I believe that we (I can safely speak for the other posters on this board) see them as any thing but perfect. In my opinion, it’s those people who can’t seem to let go of any alleged mistake, that have idiolize and glorified. They put BP on a pedestal and can’t understand why he fell. They’ve cast AJ as the serpent who made their god a sinner. I mean if they really understood that to err is human, we won’t be having this discussion. I understand about people hurting but not like this….especially when it’s because of the break up of what the saw as "The Golden Couple". I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, when I hear those words the first thing that comes to mind is statuettes.WELL SAID !!!!! Two Thumbs up !!!

Wise words from gitane….the gold has tarnished–must’ve only been copper.Wonderful and wise words indeed. I am putting that in the BAMZ bible —book of Quotes….LOL

#370 Jizzy, quote: "It has never sat right with me that she high-tailed it out of the US and completely shut out his family (and hers too, for that matter) from experiencing this pregnancy with her. If she cared at all in getting to know the Pitt family and becoming a part of their family, then this is an odd way to do that."1. I have to tell you that I never wanted to "share" or experience my pregnancy with my mum in law. My own mother - yes. But my mother in law - NO. And I don’t think I was selfish at all. Its not that my mother in law isnt a nice lady and we get on well, we go on family holidays together and I am part of the family enough to manage family money. But at the end of the day, she’s not my mother and shes not my best buddy. 2. I would chat to my mother and sister on the phone about my pregnancy (I don’t live near them) but even then, I didn’t do a blow by blow account. Every woman is different. I felt that the changes to my body and my feelings during my pregnancy were highly intimate details to be shared only with my husband. I never shared my pregnancy with my mother in law beyond a "I’m doing fine".

# 370 | jizzy—————-Obviously, you do not know Angelina. # 371 | anon ++++++++++Not only that but she thinks she knows Brad. Obviously none of us know how this is going to turn out, but everyone is constantly selling one or the other short. Personally I hope that AJ was serious when she said that she was looking for a life partner. She sounded like she understood that there’d have to be compromises on her part. And if the rumors are true that she sold her house in the UK…well, that means home is going to be Cali for the time being not France. I don’t know who came up with that "they’re moving to France" nonsense. Everyone seems to want AJ to stay the same wild girl who was running from herself as much as anyone else. Hopefully she has turned that corner and has realized that she doesn’t need to do everything herself or everything her way.

Jizzy please are you are man or a woman?

Rude Dog-Where are you? # 383 | malibumom+++++++++++++++RudeDog’s out of town on business. He said he’d be gone a couple of weeks, but may check in occasionally.

# 378 | African Girl Do NOT appologize for the length of that post! It was/is WONDERFUL! Well said, well thought out, ought to be on the front page! BRAVA!# 386 | lylian Luckily, I was near MY mom during my pregnancy. But, I agree, my MIL had not much to do with it. Why would she? With today’s technology, she can be faxed all the pictures of the growing family, and he may talk to them every day for all we know - though imho, that would be odd for a 42 year old man.# 387 | Passing ThroughI too was horrified when I read this. I actually read the whole article - I think the link was at Pittwatch. It burned me up for several reasons. Yes, our soldiers are not being taken care of well [hell, half of them aren't even "real" soldiers but weekend [meaning National Guard] ones who don’t belong out of the country! THAT is not the fault of celebs - not even TC! But, also, to compare what soldier’s families are going through at home, in houses, with army medical care etc. is just not the same as what a family in the Third World is going through. Made me ashamed yet again to be American.# 388 | Passing Through Lady, you are in tip top form today. Why is it that no one wants to accept that Angie GREW UP?! And, seeing that Brad has what, 2 movies to film in US they’ll be back soon enough, with the razzis all over them. For these two, I think they will end up doing what is best for the kids, and soon enough that will be Maddox - he’ll need schooling and peers. Wherever they settle, I hope he doesn’t end up in some southern California school - I don’t see Angie being too impressed with "Beverly Hills High" morals.# 389 | kidiRIGHT ON! Stay on your soapbox, please - it’s so refreshing to read this opinion outside of the political blogs I go to.# 391 | malibumomEXCELLENT point Malibumom! And, just to add more fuel to his fire, what about the VETS who are languishing unhappily in Army hospitals around the world, not able to get the support [mentally AND physically] from the government? What about all the limbs that WORK they need?

# 378 | African Girl - Bravo African Girl Bravo, very well said. BAMZ+1 ROCKS

# 397 | COLD HARD MATH - I know how you feel, everythime I come Online I am looking for new pictures. I know that they need their privacy but I just want to see a new picture, my boyfriend think I am way to obsess with BP and AJ but I don’t care

# 397 # 398I agree. I want new pics too. They must have thrown all of the papparazzo out of Namibia. LoL