Brad & Angelina: Art Gallery

She looks smart but he looks really casual. Both looking good though. It’s strange because a while back, you would only see her in a club - dressed like a goth - but now she visits an art gallery with the father of her children. I could never have guessed it. EVER.

Thanks JJ!! They both look GREATas usual!! I love them!!

Thanks JJ!! They both look great as usual!! I love them.

Oh my goodness, look at the way Angie is staring up at him in picture five. I love what she’s wearing as well. Does anyone know what of art Caan is into. Does he paint modern, etc? Jared!!! YOU ROCK!!! Thanks!

They look great.

The last 2 pic are the best. I can just imagine the frenzy that will occur the 1st time they step on the red carpet as an official couple.

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who is the lady behind them? i have no ideal!!

angie looks amazing beautiful couple!!!!

thank you Jared, I love yhe pictures. Angelina looks beautiful, and I’m really digging the close up of Brad’s chest in the car.. He’s howing us some skin.. ohh la la .

who is the lady behind them? i have no ideal who is she? love to see then together. is brad wearing the same shirt in ocean13

i love this couple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have no idea why I”m getting such a kick out of the fact that they have a garage door opener clipped on their sun visor like everybody else in America- like they’re real people and everything! :)

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They are truly soul mate!They look so happy in the TMZ video and it made my day :D

Julia: You HAD to mention the skin. You had to get me going so early in the morning! HA! HA! I think the ‘red’ thing in the car belongs to one of the kids, as it’s tied secure with some type of belt.

Thank you JJ, you are wonderful.

i posted in the other thread, but is Jolie wearing St. John? It’s a beautiful and classy suit. I like that she dresses her age. No flashing of cleavage like some wanna-be-17-year old, going on 40.

Freidaflo: OK, first I get Julia with the skin showing and now I’ve got YOU brining up the bedroom. My goodness, where’s there a cold shower when you need it!! HA! HA! I agree, they don’t need to cling to each other — clinging counts most at home. I do think they are very secure in their relationship, and why should they marry? I mean look at Susan Sarandon, she’s in a very happy relationship for years, and they have children and it works. Good for them!!!

#26 / UbberGooberLol….me too. Really what is that about?

She needs to stop pulling her hair back in ponytails all the time. It doesn’t look good, it makes her forhead look huge. I just think she doesn’t look that good here. Her big toe is really sticking out of her shoes too. She has definately looked better than this.

i posted in the other thread, but is Jolie wearing St. John? It’s a beautiful and classy suit. I like that she dresses her age. No flashing of cleavage like some wanna-be-17-year old, going on 40.

Thanks Jared for the pics, as usual u ROCK

# 45 | Maniston | She’s also wearing the band that matches Brads on her thumb….

Thanks Jared, you ROCK as always. Good Morning to all my fellow BAMZS Fans, I can’t stop looking at the pictures of this two, they are so fabulous, love Angelina’s outfit

# 29 | Maniston - Thanks Maniston for the update for Lainey, I can’t wait to hear more

Here is the link of the video in case someone din’t see it. Just download it and follow the path.http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=3BC95CD47FF8ED4AIn the video both Brad and Angie looked happy and at peace with each other.But when they realized the razzis presence they turned around and vanished.They are like every normal couple touching and laughing when the paps are not around.This couple is following a plan: No candit photos and no PDA infront of the paps!You can not jude their whole live from some photos you see once in a month.We don’t know how they are behind close doors.They just want to protect what the have.Take an example of Jonny Dep and Vannesa Paradi.The never show PDA to the public but they have too kids and are together for years without a marrige.So doupters i think you have to think more deeper on the subject.

whoa, 3rd pic far ryt from the top, Brad’s looking like he’s in his 20’s, amazing….

# 54 | think positive - Thank you and ITA.

oooh better pictures! jared, i’m spoiled! i’m truly truly spoiled! loving braddy’s hair and the peek into the open shirt in pic #11 yummy! yummy!how’s everyone in here today? getting used to TypeKey?

Have you notice how calm Angelina is,even when she is driving.She has gone up another level,very calm,just being a mum and a wife or partner and doing it very well and she has allowed Brad to be the leader,which shows she is serious about Brad,because we all know she is a very independent person.Brad must be very proud to see this hollywood actress who is just down to earth,,but we shouldn,t be suprised because Angelina said they just want to be a family and enjoy being together.I think them coming out is not just for the love of art,something is coming up, but what ,we will wait and see.SO ANGELINA HAS MEET THE OCEANS GANG

If they do as much as look at each other in the eyes they wil start ripping each other’s clothes off LOL. Better not look at each other in public LOL

# 63 | BeSane If they do as much as look at each other in the eyes they wil start ripping each other’s clothes off LOL. Better not look at each other in public LOL.That is so true

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Oh More pictures! On the other thread it was said that Brad came straight from the O13 set, and that shirt is part of what Rusty was wearing that day for a scene as a delivery man of some type. He met Angie and Holly there. Brad arrived about 45 minutes ahead of Angie & Holly, then they all went home together. The video is much more revealing than these photos, which just show them walking to the car as they are leaving. The E! Channel also reported that Brad was dressed "in sleek black", so that tells you how accurate they are, they can’t even get the clothes right! I think they look dreamy no matter what they are wearing, and while I am not crazy about the beige on Angie (I love her in brighter colors) I am digging her red piggy toes!Yes, that Larimar ring is a favorite of hers isn’t it? You can see it in the last picture. I use stones for prayer and meditation, and Larimar is one of my favorites. Here’s what my Gemstone book says about the properties of Larimar:Larimar: Can be used to stimulate the release of self-imposed constraints allowing freedom from the bondage of the materialistic world. Assists in precision and forthrightness in activities, and stimulates deeper understanding of one’s place in the world. It is quite helpful in discouraging pugnancy and over-zealous displays. Overall wearing or carrying Larimar allows the user to emit a sense of peace in their truthfulness, clarity, and healing love. It can be used to stimulate the heart, throat, third eye, and crown chakras facilitiating unner wisdom and outer manifestation of that wisdom.The teachers who have schoole me in the use of gem stones for physical well being tell me that people are naturally drawn to the stones that speak to them, so when trying to choose, just listen with your heart and allow the stones to choose you. I would say that Larimar suits Angie nicely, and from the story I heard about how she chose this one, and Brad buying it for her right on the spot, I would venture to say this little ring spoke to her.I love that she’s not a bling bling girl and that she’s content with a few special personal pieces. It’s not about how much it costs (48 bucks for this one I read) it’s the intention and the feeling the stone gives you. Since she wears this one quite often, it must make her feel pretty good.

# 67 | gitane - I agree with you. I was thinking the same. They are so beautiful and so much in love even though there is no PDA .. you can actually feel it.

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YEHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! we’ve got the man with the cartoon bubble!Thanks Jaredjpf

people who have seen them together in unguarded moments have said that you can feel what’s between them. they don’t have to touch each other. their emotions are palpable. i hope for their sakes & the kids that it only gets better between them.

Let me try to do it….**************************The Pitts answer backBreaking up, huh? Telling Angie he still loves Jen, huh?Please. Look at this woman. Next to Angelina Jolie, there is no other. And any suggestion of Brad Pitt pining for Jennifer Aniston after being blessed with the opportunity not only to be Jolie’s acknowledged lover, but to have had the privilege of populating her womb is absolutely f&cking ludicrous. Life & Style Weekly my Chinese ass.So here are the Pitts, surprise attendees at an art exhibit the other night, a not too subtle rebuttal to the rumours: there is no split, there is no rift, and is this the most beautiful farking couple you’ve ever laid eyes on or what??? Her in particular, especially during the video when she’s smiling and at ease. Damn… like I said before, I’m not made for muff, but I swear for her - I’d switch any time, any day.Anyway, back to the gossip and those amateur reports that the end is near - as you can see from their deliberate display of togetherness, the Pitts dictate their own leaks and when they want you to know what they want you know, they’ll do it on their own terms.UPDATE: EXCLUSIVE from a lovely, lovely reader who was there, at the gallery, an eyewitness account of the Pitts:I spoke to her… I TOUCHED her. I am beyond pleased to say that she actually IS more beautiful in person, and is an astonishingly lovely person. Polite, friendly, very un-Hollywood. The best part?… She and Brad looked completely infatuated with each other (and not in a staged-Hollywood-we-have-to-look-good-for-the-cameras kind of way). Genuine smiles, both of them never more than an arms length from each other.More details to follow as the source was rushed, will continue to update as I know… # 690 | lainey | ***************************YAY! I did it! Well whaddya know…..I learned a new trick. Loved this piece and wanted it over here, too.

# 77 | dragonfly |-Lainey can be an ultimate ***** sometimes and i will admit that some time ago i was sick of her.But as it seems so far her sources reggarding the Jolie-Pitts are acurate.(But as she is saying repeatedly the last months the Pitts have closed all the leaks.So most of her sources are eye witnesses right now.)Many of her predictions have been proven true and the most of them were positive! I’m not saying she’s somekind of a Gospel but i will trust her gossip more than any Tab.Although i don’t agree with her theories some times.

Yeah, I hear ya Think Positive, and I agree. Latley she has been accurate since she started the mantra that the "Pitts" (love that, so couplely) "have sealed all leaks and nothing gets out unless thay allow it". She is right about that, and hey, at least she’s taking the route of just plain making **** up like the rest.Think Positive, congrats on getting rid of the "thing" in your name, haha!!

Thanks JJ for the big pics! Brad is such a cutie pie and Angelina is just so beautiful.

Dragonfly, I love that the Jolie-Pitts are now the ALPHA COUPLE. Awhile ago it was discussed that Angelina might possibly be a submissive alpha female, does that mean we could consider Brad to be a dominant alpha male? I say yes!

It is very interesting how much criticism B&A receive for try to defy the papps photos. Matt Damon obviously feels the same as well. Check this out: http://www.x17online.com/blog/archive/2006/august/24/article/matt-damon-apparently-doesnt-like-our-apples/

Yes, the Alpha Couple! I am just waiting to see it in print or coming out of Debbie Snufalupigus’ mouth on the E! Channel. Remember folks, you read it here first!

HA! HA! i told you all i would PIMP if i ever heard them referred to as the Alpha Couple outside this blog. that would be too rich for my blood. i’m already drunk with fanfic power!

You’re welcome, dragonfly.Power Couple comes to mind. Lately she’s been spot on about her comment. Good for her. But of course there are times I want to ring her neck. LOL. What I love about it is…it will shut the naysayers foaming mouth for now, about the irritating tabbies spreading rumors that they were kaput.See you guys tonight, I need to get ready for work. Have a great day to everyone!

http://www.x17online.com/blog/archive/2006/august/24/article/matt-damon-apparently-doesnt-like-our-apples/# 92 | CCCC ————–Wow, THAT pissed him off.Jeez, Matt, no need to go all Jason Bourne on us - we work for your fans!By X17online.com——————-Why it so hard for the paps to understand that not all of the Celebs are seeking attention wores.Wake up guys!It’s not Paris Hilton or Jessica Simpsson or the you know who.It’s Matt Damon for Christ sake.He didn’t went on some kind of event or movie premiere avoiding the paps.He’s walking the street with he’s family.Why sould he be pleased for some stalker following him around.

# 98 | Joy i hate to break it to you, but nothing is going to shut the naysayers up. they will find fault no matter what. the idea of brad & angie being together and happy about it makes them foam at the mouth like rabies-ridden hounds. their only relief is in projecting misery on them and tearing them down. besides, there’s nothing more boring to critics than a happy relationship. controversy and drama sell books, televisions shows and magazines. very few people pay for "happily ever after."

# 100 | think positive - I think they were leaving the art gallery as well. Matt Damon will have to start doing what Brad does… walk ahead of his family to protect them.

Dragonfly: You need to stop being so smart, Ms. Thing! I love your Larimar explanation. I have earrings with Larimar stone my friend brought back from Santo Domingo. Yes, it suits her fine, since she’s a Buddist. I think Angie only wears the ‘bling’ when she’s on the ‘carpet’ and even then, the ‘bling’ is just right for her. Now, someone mentioned she should sotp pulling her hair back. Let me explain, that when you’ve got kids and you are rushing out the door to attend a small art show, it’s wonderful to just wash it, pull it back and ‘off you go’. It’s all about comfort and what’s easy.

Matt Damon will have to start doing what Brad does… walk ahead of his family to protect them.# 104 | CCCC |—————–Yes.And i bet that’s what he is trying to do in the pics.He may asked for an advice of Brad since they were on the gallery together. ;)

LOVE THEM!!

Good Morning all! I’ll reiterate it again from yesterday..hot damn!!# 29 | Maniston Your post was the first post I saw and man I love the account!!Yay for Think Positive, your name’s back!!

# 107 | think positive! - As well they must have been sharing stories on the set of O13. Because definitely, Matt has changed his ways in dealing with the papps.

OTI was going to put this on yesterday’s thread, but I see Jared has a new one with the rest of the gallery photos, so I’m going to post it here instead.Last night we were talking about Summer Redstone’s comments about Tom Cruise and whether or not they were appropriate. I had to laugh just now when I saw this article on Yahoo! News - It seems Tom has worn out his welcome with more than just Summer Redstone. His Q Rating has taken a nose-dive. And the Q-Rating is what drives an actor’s salary, so Tom…start saving your pennies…**************Cruise Not a Popularity Contest Winner By Sarah Hall, E!OnlineThu Aug 24, 11:25 PM ETIt seems Sumner Redstone is not alone in his distaste for Tom Cruise’s couch-jumping conduct. On the heels of Paramount Pictures’ decision not to renew Cruise’s production deal comes word that the Mission: Impossible star’s popularity ratings are down. Way down. According to Marketing Evaluations Incorporated, the company that calculates the Q scores which measure a given celebrity’s likeability factor, the public’s positive perception of Cruise has fallen by 40 percent, while the negative perception of the actor has jumped a whopping 100 percent. How did this happen? Let’s revisit some of Cruise’s most memorable moments over the last year and a half. The birth of TomKat, April 2005: Cruise jets to Italy to pick up a lifetime achievement award; much to the world’s collective confusion, Katie Holmes accompanies him and the two engage in plenty of public canoodling.The passion of TomKat, May 2005: Cruise uses Oprah Winfrey’s couch as a platform from which to trumpet his love for Holmes.The wrath of TomKat, May 2005: Cruise criticizes Brooke Shields for her "irresponsible" use of antidepressants to treat her postpartum depression.The wrath of TomKat, part 2, June 2005: Cruise calls Matt Lauer "glib" for suggesting that drugs such as Paxil and Ritalin might be beneficial in some cases, and calls the TV host out on his lack of knowledge about psychiatry, a subject in which Cruise claims to be well-versed.The engagement of TomKat, June 2005: Cruise jets to Paris with Holmes in tow; they scale the Eiffel Tower, where he pops the question; Cruise then announces momentous event at press conference.The aftermath of the wrath of TomKat, July 2005: Shields rebuts Cruise’s remarks by penning an op-ed in the New York Times slamming his "ridiculous rant" against psychiatry.The reproduction of TomKat, October 2005: The betrothed couple announce that they have conceived an offspring.The OB/GYN skills of TomKat, November 2005: Cruise tells Barbara Walters he has purchased a sonogram machine to perform at-home ultrasounds on Holmes. The American College of Radiology objects and a California lawmaker is inspired to author a bill banning the use of such machines by anyone except trained professionals.The birth of TomKitten, April 2006: Cruise and Holmes announce the birth of their daughter, Suri, whose name supposedly means "princess" in Hebrew and "red rose" in Persian. Not to mention "pickpocket" in Japanese.The box-office effect of TomKat, May 2006: Mission: Impossible III opens below industry expectations, though still going on to gross a respectable $393 million worldwide.The power of TomKat, June 2006: Forbes magazine touts Cruise as the world’s most powerful famous person.The privacy of TomKat, July 2006: Some four months after her birth, Suri has yet to make her public debut, though an elite few can claim to have laid eyes on her.The downsizing of TomKat, August 2006: Paramount Pictures decides not to renew its production deal with Cruise and producing partner Paula Wagner. Viacom head honcho Sumner Redstone tells the Wall Street Journal that Cruise’s "recent conduct has not been acceptable to Paramount." So, what’s not to like? Nothing, according to Cruise’s attorney, Bert Fields. "What was his personal conduct?" Fields asked in an interview with the New York Post. "Jumping on a couch on Oprah Winfrey because he’s in love with Katie Holmes? That really deserves the death penalty? "Or speaking out against mood-altering drugs for children? That’s a real reason for the [Viacom] shareholders to be deprived of billions of dollars?" Perhaps not, but it does provide insight into how Cruise could have become less appealing in the eyes of the general public. Meanwhile, Wagner has also spoken out in defense of her business crony (whom she likes, anyway), calling Redstone’s remarks "graceless," "undignified," and "not businesslike." "I ask, what is his real agenda? What is he trying to do? Is this how you treat artists?" Wagner raged to the Los Angeles Times. "If I were another actor or filmmaker, would I work at a studio that takes one of their greatest assets and publicly does this?" Cruise has yet to speak up on his own behalf. However, Wagner stated that the producing partners would be just fine without Paramount and had already secured $100 million in independent financing from two hedge funds. Even so, the question remains of what will happen to the projects Cruise/Wagner Productions had already developed for Paramount. The producing partners had stockpiled a number of scripts for the studio, many as potential starring vehicles for Cruise. Negotiations over the projects could get tricky, given Paramount’s relatively new conditions for pictures put into turn-around, including the requirement that the studio be fully reimbursed and receive coproduction rights. According to Daily Variety, some of the most promising projects brought to Paramount by C/W include One Shot, a mystery about a homicide investigator; The War Magician, a true-life drama about a British magician who used illusions to mystify the Germans and protect British troops in North Africa; and The Few, a drama about American fighter pilots who fought for the British in World War II. "We have not discussed what will happen with the projects," a C/W spokesperson told Daily Variety. "They all have separate contracts and agreements, and I’m sure they will be honored

# 80 | gitane I agree. I love what Leslie Caron said about them after having an evening out with them in Paris.—————–"I like them very much,” Caron said. “They’re bright, interested in what’s going on, open to everything, ready to grab everything they can out of life. They’re not wasting a lot of time being movie stars. They’re taking advantage of it to see, listen and learn. Their love affair is obviously not for the benefit of the press; they seem extremely happy and comfortable together.” There was only one awkward moment, when Leslie innocently asked where the baby would be born. “They were perfectly mute,” she says. “I wasn’t thinking! They were being stalked everywhere by the paparazzi.” ——————-I think that last part also speaks volumes about how they are insync about switching modes to let it be known what is/isn’t up for discussion "even if you are Leslie Caron."jpf

# 80 | gitane I agree. I love what Leslie Caron said about them after having an evening out with them in Paris.—————–"I like them very much,” Caron said. “They’re bright, interested in what’s going on, open to everything, ready to grab everything they can out of life. They’re not wasting a lot of time being movie stars. They’re taking advantage of it to see, listen and learn. Their love affair is obviously not for the benefit of the press; they seem extremely happy and comfortable together.” There was only one awkward moment, when Leslie innocently asked where the baby would be born. “They were perfectly mute,” she says. “I wasn’t thinking! They were being stalked everywhere by the paparazzi.” ——————-I think that last part also speaks volumes about how they are insync about switching modes to let it be known what is/isn’t up for discussion "even if you are Leslie Caron."jpf

Morning All! I hope I can still post!

# 120 | COLD HARD MATH Yes, you’re in!

LOL @ pic#11, brad’s shirt.

Love them! Love them! It has been great seeing how Angelina has grown and changed. Haven’t we all? Don’t quite understand people who want to keep viewing her from old glasses. Life bring changes, experiences bring changes. She has changed and she just gets better with time.Liking Brad a lot more these days too..

I will try again today

you guys are killing me with the larimar talk. my college "sweetie" did a lot of work in the caribbean and brought me back a larimar cross from one of his trips. i LOVED that thing. i wore it almost every day even when we parted ways. it was my favorite piece of jewelry and i lost it in the flood. i’m dying to find out how i can get another one.i had a lot of damasquinado jewelry, too. i’m trying to figure out how i can replace that without having to fly to spain to get it.

Yes!!, geez louis, this is hard to get into, Thanks JJ for more pitures.

#116 / Passing ThroughLmoa….what do we have here? The Chronicles of TomKat?

I have a feeling, we are going to see a LOT more of this couple. Summer will be soon turning into Autumn, and BOTH of them have movies to promote, the festival in Toronto, fashion week in NYC, plus the release of BABEL and the later, the release of THE GOOD SHEPHERD. I wonder when Angie, will start filming, A MIGHTY HEART? # 131 | COLD HARD MATH ————————————————–I agree with you CHM, and I am looking forward to see more of them out and about. It is going to be a busy Autumn/Fall for them. I thought that A Might Heart was supposed to start filming in September, but I don’t know how true that is

#131 / AngelahLol….thanks for posting that. Piper, that was really good and funny. Are you sure you don’t want to join the Fanfic writers? We have phone convos, see PT, Guli, Estelle and Cindy2.

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love those pictures. is what they said about jon voight on ny post true???? these pics, are they leaving or arriving????

#131 / COLD HARD MATHYou’re right….we’re about to witness the power these two coulp wield in Hollywood. Sit back friends and watch a certain sect of people writhe in complete and total agony. Will it be wicked of me to say I am so gonna enjoy watching it…..ah put a stamp on me and call me wicked because I am so gonna enjoy it.#141 / CBHiya you? Still very busy at work?

Lmoa….what do we have here? The Chronicles of TomKat? # 136 | African Girl | **********************Not so much the Chronicles of Tomkat, but the rise of the Alpha Couple! Move over, Tom, Angie & Brad are bustin’ loose!****************i like that one, too. i think of them sitting down together and agreeing–nobody but the two of us belongs in this relationship. i think they both had enough outside interference in their previous relationships to be smart about this one. # 137 | gitane | *****************Aww… I like that, too. And it makes sense, and any of us who has never had to try and have a private life with this level of scrutiny simply cannot imagine what it must be like. It’s easy to sit in the privacy and anonymity of your own life and say, "Oh they should kiss more, they should touch more, they should make us feel like they are together…" Why should they do that? They aren’t trained circus animlas who have to anything for the public on their own private time. I think they have just closed the door on their private affections because they are not for us to see. Sure, I’d *like* to see, but I respect their obvious decision not to show it. ::sigh:: Maybe they will make another movie with a killer love scene in it. That’s the best we can hope for, I’m afraid. And I’d sure knock somebody down to get to the box office to see it, too. AND buy the DVD! haha!!One thing I keep thinking of is the scene in Angie’s THS where she is talking about BBT, and she says that she doesn’t think she ought to have to ask him not to hold her hand in public or kiss her in public, that she didn’t think that was right…..well we see she has changed her line of thinking on this issue. I guess she figured it’s not always best to put so much of it out there. That, and the fact that every relationship is different….the way she is with Brad is a result of what they feel is right for them, based on their own private conversations. The message is that what they do in private is clearly none of our business. You gotta respect that, and appreciate what they do decide to divuldge. It does have a way of keeping us interested because they are so mysterious. Look how quick people got tired of seeing Tom stick his tongue down Katie’s neck. It quickly grows passe.

# 145 | African Girl Hey Gal! Nice to see you, Estelle & A, this fine Saturday morn. ":)Did I say fine? hmmmmmm it is pitch black outside my window here. Not raining however…so I guess that will qualify as fine.Yessssssssssss…work….work….work….and more of the same. I QUIT!I hereby do declare I am winning the Lotto tomorrow night, becoming a millionaire and just quitting! (ala…aka…."doin’ the TOM!) HAHAHAHAHAYeah right! sureeeeeee GMD!!! (anyways Matey. Thankx for noticing I was in the building…but my eyes are truly falling out of my head here…I shall read all this thread later, catch up on the goss…and definately hope to catch you "ron". (Later on!)Cheers again Matey!!! ":)ps. What have I missed??? anything really dramatic and life changing??? hmmmmmm *shudders at the thought*

# 149 | alida Yea, I forgot about that.

We have this Body Language book at work and these two have negative body language. You have to remember they are actors so they can fake up smiles in public pretty much anytime. There is just something not right about they way they don’t act towards each other in public. Look at Tom Hanks & Rita whatever her name is, Will & Jada Smith. Most happy couples do show each other some type of public closeness & affection. Angelina basically trapped this man by getting pregnant. If she did not do that they would be apart already. They will either break up within a year or she will be pregnant again out of desperation to keep him around. Mark you calendars.

# 90 | Lynn Campbell I agree. I love that she doesn’t defer to him because she doesn’t have a mind of her own, but because she trusts him. I always refer to something Elena wrote a few months ago that I wish I had kept it but failed to. She said something so profound regarding Angelina finding in Brad someone she could surrender too without giving up who she is in the sense of her independence. I think they’re a couple who have each others back, who can depend on one another, who know when to follow the other, lead the other, walk beside each other. I believe they’re sincerely the best of friends. When she told Ann Curry that not many people knew Brad, and also how it was nice for her to have someone to talk about those things important to her. That let me know that they’ve each found in the other what they obviously never truly had with anyone before .If you think about it, none of either Brads or Angelina’s other relationships ever started out as a friendship that grew into something more. All of them started out with romance in mind, and I just think the couple had the benefit of getting to know each others true selves. Remember Brad saying before they ever got together how getting to know her dispelled all the things he thought, and Angelina saying how he was not who she expected him to be "in a good way." This won’t make some very happy, but I just don’t see anything but death ever separating these two.jpf

# 148 | dragonfly – ITA with your post dragonfly, I was on Bradforums earlier and there was this chick who called Brad a coward because he wasn’t holding Angie’s hands, and this was my response to her post:Oh please here we go away calling Brad a coward, please show me where he is a coward. Why do they need to hold hands in public? They don’t have anything to prove to anybody, I don’t need them to hold hands in public for me to be satisfy that they are in love, my boyfriend and I don’t hold hands in public, so does that mean that he is a coward, we know what we have at home. Look at all the couples that do the PDAs in public even the the hand holding, and where are they now, broken up. I look at it this way, either you take Brad and Angie the way they are or you don’t, as for me I like them just the way they are, they don’t need to prove anything to me.

# 127 | Ida Ida, may I refer you to………http://www.x17online.com/blog/archive/2006/august/24/article/matt-damon-apparently-doesnt-like-our-apples/Maybe this will help you see that in the world they have to live in as celebs, they are not alone in how they act/react in public.jpf

# 148 | dragonfly |——————-I completly agree.Very well said!# 150 | cycloneblondie |————————–Hey matey! How is things? Hope catch with you later.Isn’t it great how peacefull it is here since the Typekey?Hardly any hater action.LOL!

# 156 | Original jpf - Great Post and Well Said Original jpf.

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# 158 | Alexanderina-well, you show them, very well post.

#150 / CBCB…..oh you do not want to know! For the last week or so, we’ve been plagued by nasty little buggers…..I mean the nastiest you can find on the net. We had aliens visiting from outta space, Big brother watching to make sure we had our Ts crossed and Is dotted, we had an Agent Mulder wannbe searching for "the truth"….oy, to say it was bothersome is giving those buggers some credit, so imagine trying to have a nice conversation and a little fawning, instead you get pesky flies interrupting you every second…..just wanted to swat them so hard, they won’t no what hit them. By the way, don’t forget you li’l friend here (re: ME) when you do win the lotta. When I was 15 and got my first job, I came to the conclusion that I was made to live a life of Liesure. Although I am taking steps to ensure this, it’s not going as quickly as planned…..still have a wedding to plan.*Sigh* Making plans to be gal of leisure is hardwork isn’t it?

ok this key things are killing me, one minute you can post the next minute you can not…

# 169 | COLD HARD MATH - I don’t know, this is my 3rd post, and it takes forever, I don’t even know this one will post…

168 | COLD HARD MATH - I think so, because every so often I would have to sign in again because my post did not post

I agree. I love that she doesn’t defer to him because she doesn’t have a mind of her own, but because she trusts him. I always refer to something Elena wrote a few months ago that I wish I had kept it but failed to. She said something so profound regarding Angelina finding in Brad someone she could surrender too without giving up who she is in the sense of her independence.I think they’re a couple who have each others back, who can depend on one another, who know when to follow the other, lead the other, walk beside each other. I believe they’re sincerely the best of friends. When she told Ann Curry that not many people knew Brad, and also how it was nice for her to have someone to talk about those things important to her. That let me know that they’ve each found in the other what they obviously never truly had with anyone before .If you think about it, none of either Brads or Angelina’s other relationships ever started out as a friendship that grew into something more. All of them started out with romance in mind, and I just think the couple had the benefit of getting to know each others true selves. Remember Brad saying before they ever got together how getting to know her dispelled all the things he thought, and Angelina saying how he was not who she expected him to be "in a good way." This won’t make some very happy, but I just don’t see anything but death ever separating these two.jpf# 156 | Original jpf |———————Your post is a keeper!.You have a beautiful mind!# 158 | Alexanderina |————————I can not believe that there’re haters even in Brad and Agelina’s fan forums.I can understand to comment on a blog but to register in a member forum for someone they don’t like just to spew their hate is beyond desperation.This people are mentaly ill.I was in soulie jolie.com yesterday in the "Angelina Jolie gossip" section and there was a an Angie hater and she was saying that they won’t last because Angie likes to exchange boyfriends.They don’t like them fine.Why the hell the can’t move on?

they are probably gonna use the gwn/chris martin model. gwn never brought chris to all her business functions, not the red carpet.

# 156 | Original jpf Very nice post. I remember that post from Elena and wished I had saved it, too. I think you got it right, something to the effect of how a powerful woman can let herself give in to a man, she doesn’t necessarily want to be dominated as much as being able to surrender to him. Well, I better stop, I probably mucked it all up. I would try to go back through some of the threads to try to find it, but can you imagine how hard that would be? lol

#2 I sadi it, this time Brad is not following ANGIE from behind, he is leading the way and yes I wish they won’t give a F….to chin chin’s feelings and all the crazy people out there and just for BP to hold Hot Mama Angie’s hand and lead her like David Beckham does to Victoria.

Isn’t it nice we can have a civil conversation, with DIFFERENT opinions? PDA or not, it’s good to see them out and about. Oh BTW, the larimar stone, I thought it was blue. Does it come in various colors? BBL. Have a good day everyone!

#154 / Body Languagei’ll definitely mark my my calendar and say BOO Yah to all of u naysayers [in the near future]..bb

*ssssshhhhhhh….sneaking, sneaking back into room….tries not to spill coffee in hand*# 155 | Alexanderina |Hey A! ":)Why I am fine, thankyou for asking. Yes…I know I have been a bit of a stranger as of late…but…ho hum…what’s a girl to do??? when she has a shoe fettish??? giggle# 162 | think positive!Hey PT+++ ":)Things are going great! I have been doing soooo many things lately…my head has been spinning.I have dropped in a couple of times…had a bit of a read/lurked and left…Just haven’t had much time to think straight to post. (Not that, that has ever stopped me in the past I guess so??? lol) I can’t really comment on the haters…I shall read this thread later and will be very surprised if I don’t find one sprouting off in here!!!) # 165 | Estelle | Hey Gal!Yeahhhhhh…I am a bit of an insomniac! (spelling at 3.45am? questionable?)hmmmmmm I was off to bed before…but I had a shower an unfortunately, now a coffee…soooooo??? geeezzzzzzzzzz somehow I found myself "sneaking" back in here to try and find some gossip!!! lmao *slap myself* dohhhhhI am glad I have not missed anything of total importance!!! siggghhhhhhhhhhh Last 2 weeks here in Oz, all the rags have Angie babe storming off with the kids!!! "IT’S OVER" type ****! I even had a sister ring me and report the same, to which I just laughed and told her to get a grip! This couple is solid!!! and for all the X freaks out there….SUFFFFERRRRRR!hmmmmmmmmYes Estelle!!! I heard a whisper about the impending nuptials of one Miss AG to the georgeous Mr GC. I did lurk and read something about ??? guli girl? or was that Gitane doing the wedding plans??? hmmmmmanyways…I hope AG gets what she wants. She deserves it! However…..I am truly wondering why I still have not received my invitation in the "snail mail" here??? (Note to self…interrogate posty as to what he is doing with my mail!!! ???)anyways….guess I have raved on a bit here.Cheers Mateys!!! ":)Hope all is fine in your part of the world!

i agree with you alexanderina!! its a good thing they should leave something for themselves…i love this couple..i really pray that they make it till the end! they are both beutiful inside and out!~

# 182 | Lynn CampbellVery nice post. I remember that post from Elena and wished I had saved it, too. I think you got it right, something to the effect of how a powerful woman can let herself give in to a man, she doesn’t necessarily want to be dominated as much as being able to surrender to him. Well, I better stop, I probably mucked it all up. I would try to go back through some of the threads to try to find it, but can you imagine how hard that would be? lol ***********************I think this is the passage to which you are referring:Contentment is wanting all you have and not getting all you want. That is the aura that is shining from within by this couple. It is something that we all want for ourselves and wish for our loved ones. It is a look that as a long time fan of Brad, I have never seen on his face with any of the women he has been with before.I guess all of us have different fairy tale we want our life to follow. For some it is the one of being saved and for others it is finding someone who is worthy of all you have to share …someone who sees what others don’t see, For me, it is not about being saved or conquered… it is about voluntary surrender to someone who is worthy of my trust and commitment. My appreciation of this couple is that it validates that it does exist. Because I still believe in Happily Ever After but I also have learned what it takes to make that a reality. If this couple teaches us anything it should be that love finds you when and where you least expect and not the other way around. If you are living a life that fullfills you, then when someone falls in step with you on the road that you chosen for yourself… You know they are the right one – Elena

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And this to from Elena:A strong woman works out everyday to keep her body in shape…But a woman of strength builds relationships to keep her soul in shape.A strong woman isn’t afraid of anything…But a woman of strength shows courage in the midst of her fear.A strong woman won’t let anyone get the best of her…But a woman of strength gives the best of herself to everyone.A strong woman makes mistakes and avoids the same in the future…But a woman of strength realizes life’s mistakes can also be unexpected blessings and capitalizes on them.A strong woman wears the look of confidence on her face…But a woman of strength wears grace.A strong woman has faith that she is strong enough for the journey…But a woman of strength has faith that it is in the journey that she will become strong.

I can not believe that there’re haters even in Brad and Agelina’s fan forums.I can understand to comment on a blog but to register in a member forum for someone they don’t like just to spew their hate is beyond desperation.This people are mentaly ill.I was in soulie jolie.com yesterday in the "Angelina Jolie gossip" section and there was a an Angie hater and she was saying that they won’t last because Angie likes to exchange boyfriends.They don’t like them fine.Why the hell the can’t move on? # 178 | think positive! ————————————————–Oh yes there are, some of them joined pretending they are fans, but they are not. I was also on Souliejolie.com a couple of days ago, and this “fan” just joined the same day and she was like believing the tabloids like it was the bible she said that she don’t think they will last and she was trashing Brad and saying Angelina needs to leave Brad and be with a woman, because only a woman will make her happy, and that they were only together for the kids; and some of the “so-called fans” constantly bring up Angie’s past, they can’t get it that she has moved on and that she is not the same person she was before, but some of them can’t see that.

Love this part!***********************If this couple teaches us anything it should be that love finds you when and where you least expect and not the other way around. If you are living a life that fullfills you, then when someone falls in step with you on the road that you chosen for yourself… You know they are the right one – Elena # 193 | mamadog |**********************That is so true! I found that to be true for myself, and it does seem like Brad fell right into step with Angie, right next to her, and yet, neither one of them had to deviate from their chosen path or give up any of their life dreams in order to be together. Nice.

190 | cycloneblondie- I’ll asked Gitane or AG regarding the invitation…geez, I don’t know, they must have used those pigeons mail, you know those pigeons, always get side track when they see others pigeon, chatty those pesky bird. it’s probably somewhere in Paris right now, don’t worry, you will get your invitation in time…LOL

# 164 | Alexanderina Hey there! I had SO much trouble getting TK yesterday that I didn’t get a chance to holla at you. I think I got one to you, but for the life of me I can’t find it. Anyway, hope is well with you. AJ/BP are quite an inspiring couple that I wish all the best too. They make it easy to support them.jpf

I typed a whole long post - and it never appeared. Is this even working? Man, what a DRAG.

Hello! People! You need to register and I need to authenticate you in order for your posts to show up automatically. Otherwise, I have to approve all of your comments individually and I am only one man! You have to hold your horsies for your comment to show up if you’re too lazy to register!! (JJ)——-I don’t post very often, just love to read as many messages as I can, except for the ugly ones, but every time I visit there are already so many pages. I am sure it’s been explained how to register, but I haven’t found that post yet. I have no idea how to register!Orchid-a very loyal BAMSZ fan

Someone sent this to me and I just had to highlight the Jolie-Pitts WHICH BABY ARE YOUJanZAHARA MARLEY JOLIE-PITT: 1/8/05Pretty/handsome. Loves to dress up. Easily bored. Fussy. Seldom shows emotions. Takes time to recover when hurt. Sensitive. Down-to-Earth. Stubborn.FebAbstract thoughts. Loves reality and abstract. Intelligent and clever. Changing personality. Attractive. Sexiest out of everyone. Temperamental. Quiet, shy and humble. Honest And loyal. Determined to reach goals. Loves freedom. Rebellious when restricted. Loves aggressiveness. Too sensitive and easily hurt. Gets angry really easily but does not show it. Dislikes unnecessary things. Loves making friends but rarely shows it. Horny. Daring and stubborn. Ambitious. Realizing dreams and hopes. Sharp. Loves entertainment and leisure. Romantic on the inside not outside. Superstitious and ludicrous. Spendthrift. Tries to learn to show emotions.MarAttractive personality. Sexy. Affectionate Shy and reserved. Secretive. Naturally honest, generous and sympathetic. Loves peace and serenity. Sensitive to others. Great kisser. Easily angered. Trustworthy. Appreciative and returns kindness. Hardly shows emotions. Tends to bottle up feelings. Observant and assesses others. AprSuave and compromising. Funny and humorous. Stubborn. Very talkative. Calm and cool. Kind and sympathetic. Concerned and detailed. Loyal. Does work well with others. Very confidant. Sensitive. Positive Attitude. Thinking generous. Good memory. Clever and knowledgeable. Loves to look for information. Able to cheer everyone up and/or make them laugh. Able to motivate oneself and others. Understanding. Fun to be around. Outgoing. Hyper. Bubbly personality. Secretive. Boy/girl crazy. Loves sports, music, leisure and traveling. Systematic. Hot but has brains. May SHILOH NOUVEL JOLIE-PITT: 5/27/06Stubborn and hard-hearted. Strong-willed and highly motivated. Sharp thoughts. Easily angered. Attracts others and loves attention. Deep feelings. Beautiful physically and mentally. Firm Standpoint. Needs no motivation. Shy towards opposite sex. Easily consoled. Systematic (left brain). Loves to dream. Strong clairvoyance. Understanding. Sickness usually in the ear and neck. Good imagination. Good physical. Weak breathing. Loves literature and the arts. Loves traveling. Dislike being at home. Restless. Not having many children. Hardworking. High-spirited.Jun ANGELINA JOLIE-PITT: 6/04/75You’ve got the best personality and are an absolute pleasure to be around. You love to make new friends and be outgoing. You are a great flirt and more than likely have an a very attractive partner. a wicked hottie. It is also more than likely that you have a massive record collection. You have a great choice in films, and may one day become a famous actor/actress yourself - heck, you’ve got the looks for it!!! IN the next 6 days you will meet someone that may possibly become one of your closest friends. Jul Fun to be with. Secretive. Difficult to fathom and to be understood. Quiet unless excited or tensed. Takes pride in oneself. Has reputation. Easily consoled. Honest. Concerned about people’s feelings. Tactful. Friendly. Approachable. Emotional temperamental and unpredictable. Moody and easily hurt. Witty and sparkly. spazzy at times. Not revengeful. Forgiving but never forgets. dislikes nonsensical and unnecessary things. Guides others physically and mentally. Sensitive and forms impressions carefully. Caring and loving. Treats others equally. Strong sense of sympathy. Wary and sharp. Judges people through observations. Hardworking. No difficulties in studying. Loves to be alone. Always broods about the past and the old friends. Waits for friends. Never looks for friends. Not aggressive unless provoked. Loves to be loved. Easily hurt but takes long to recover. Aug MADDOX CHIVAN JOLIE-PITT: 8/5/01Outgoing personality. takes risks. feeds on attention. No self-control. Kind hearted. Self-confident. Loud and boisterous. VERY revengeful. Easy to get along with and talk to. Has an "every thing’s peachy" attitude. Likes talking and singing. Loves music. Daydreamer. Easily distracted. Hates not being trusted. BIG imagination. Loves to be loved. Hates studying. in need of "that someone". Longs for freedom. Rebellious when withheld or restricted. Lives by "no pain no gain" caring. Always a suspect. Playful. Mysterious. "charming" or "beautiful" to everyone. stubborn. curious. Independent. Strong willed. A fighter. Sept Active and dynamic. Decisive and haste but tends to regret. Attractive and affectionate to oneself. Strong mentality. Loves attention. Diplomatic. Consoling, friendly and solves people’s problems. Brave and fearless. Adventurous. Loving and caring. Suave and generous. Usually you have many friends. Enjoys to make love. Emotional. Stubborn. Hasty. Good memory. Moving, motivates oneself and others. Loves to travel and explore. Sometimes sexy in a way that only their lover can understand.Oct Loves to chat. Loves those who love them. Loves to takes things at the center. Inner and physical beauty. Lies but doesn’t pretend. Gets angry often. Treats friends importantly. Brave and fearless. Always making friends. Easily hurt but recovers easily. Daydreamer. Opinionated. Does not care to control emotions. Unpredictable. Extremely smart, but definitely the hottest AND sexiest of them all. Nov Trustworthy and loyal. Very passionate and dangerous. Wild at times. Knows how to have fun. Sexy and mysterious. Everyone is drawn towards your inner and outer beauty and independent personality. Playful, but secretive. Very emotional and temperamental sometimes. Meets new people easily and very social in a group. Fearless and independent. Can hold their own. Stands out in a crowd. Essentially very smart. Usually, the greatest men are born in this month. If you ever begin a relationship with someone from this month, hold on to them because their one of a kind.Dec William Bradley Pitt : 12/18/63This straight-up means you are the most good-looking person possible… Better than all of these other months! Loyal and generous. Patriotic. Competitive in everything. Active in games and interactions. Impatient and hasty. Ambitious. Influential in organizations. Fun to be with. Easy to talk to, though hard to understand. Thinks far with vision, yet complicated to know. Easily influenced by kindness. Polite and soft-spoken. Having lots of ideas. Sensitive. Active mind. Hesitating tends to delay. Choosy and always wants the best. Temperamental. Funny and humorous. Loves to joke. Good debating skills. Has that someone always on his/her mind. Talkative. Daydreamer. Friendly. Knows how to make friends. Abiding. Able to show character. One guy/girl kind of person. Loveable. Easily hurt. Prone to getting colds. Loves music. Pretty/handsome. Loves to dress up. Easily bored. Fussy. Seldom shows emotions. Takes time to recover when hurt. Sensitive. I’M AUGUST MYSELF AND I THINK THESE ARE PRETTY DEAD ON!!!!

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# 158 | Alexanderina Oh my! Now you’ve gone and done it lol. Great post and I SO totally agree. I really wish Angelina & Brad weren’t gauged by the amount of PDA they don’t display. I mean just look at all the other couples…..including even ones they both once a part of…….did PDA keep those together?! NO! Good job Alexanderina, and I’m SO glad you said it on that site. A few of those posters make me as sick as a some I’ve seen on anti JoliePitt boards.jpf

Does that extra button undone on Brad’s shirt mean they were having some fun there before the paps came along?

|#193 Cliniqua1 |I understand what you are saying. I’m not asking them to perform. I know they are not into PDA. I’ve seen the pics when they were in Europe, hugging, kissing, holding hands at the WEF a VERY high profile venue. I’m just glad to see pictures of them TOGETHER! And I know Brad has balls! Angie knows that too! LOL!

# 214 | Original jpf - I had to do the same thing on the Souliejolie.com Site as well, I am just so sick of some people who called themselves fans that constantly criticize this couple, because they are not doing things the way they(so-called fans) want them to do it. You either love them the way they are or you don’t

# 199 | Lynn Campbell Thank you so much, I can’t believe you had one of her posts! That is a very beautiful one, but there is another one I was thinking of, too. Evidently she wrote a lot of touching ones.++++++++++++++**gasp. gasp** {{panting for air}} Sorry, it took me a few minutes to find this…I hope this is the one!It just amazes me that people keep referring to what, who, when etc in Angie’s past. I challenge anyone to tell me that they want to be defined by the mistakes they made 5 - 10 years ago. One only recognizes the right one because of all the wrong ones before. I am positive that should you look into Jennifer’s relationships, there are none that she wants to be defined by. Oddly, Angelina , unlike Jennifer whose former lovers just want to forget what for them was the worst mistake ,,, Angelina’s former lovers all still put her on a pedestal. None of Jennifer’s lovers even want the association. She lied and she cheated on all of them. She was always on the lookout for the upgrade. Ultimately it does not matter what we think about them . Because it is all about how they make each other feel.Sometimes a woman becomes dominant, independent etc, not because it is her nature to control everything… It happens by default. When you are the one who is the most capable you take the helm … Not because you want to , but because you have to….Angie has always had to be the strong one, the one responsible for taking care of everyone. She started working to help support her family. She is the one who is leaned on by her mother and brother. What men/people do not seem to understand is that kind of woman is not looking to conquer or be conquered….She is waiting for someone worthy of her surrender. For the first time in Angie life, she is with someone who is as strong if not stronger then she is and who loves her unconditionally. Someone who is not only capable of but wants to take care of her and protect her. It is what she has longed for all her life. A safe harbor for her heart. For the first she is with someone she can lean on without fear of being used or abandoned… Someone who sees her as she has always wanted to be seen …. Not for her beauty or sexuality but for her heart and natural intelligence. No judgment , no expectations. Just an open heart . There is nothing as healing for a man or a woman as a child. Nothing makes a woman fall in love with a man over and over again or the reverse like watching him parent and love her child. Billie Bob did not want Maddox … Brad has given Maddox what can’t be bought and what she grew up without. …. I am a mother and I will vouch for this truism….When my children are happy, anything else going on in my life is nothing. But regardless of how perfect everything in my personal life may be… if any of my kids are heartbroken for any reason or hurt , I cannot enjoy my gifts . That is what a mother is all about. Having children is watching your heart walk outside your body. It is why I know without a doubt in my being that this is the true love story. Sometimes in life you don’t realize that what has been missing in your life is exactly the one until you meet them. Lovers are a dime a dozen…hell a battery operated one is better than most. But a man who will love your kids and honor their mother… That man is priceless. Angelina has been with enough of the wrong men … she is no fool about who is the right one. For all you Jen fans… You don’t have to even be in their company… the electricity between Brad and Angie is intoxicating. Never felt that with Jennand I do not feel it between Jen and Vince. Sorry – Elena

|#212 More reading |I’m November…..Pretty amazing…….

What I started to say - I’ll trya nd be more concise this time….About the why can’t they hand-hold etc….WE are only seeing what the razzi’s are seeing, because we are looking at this photo through THEIR CAMERA LENS…so we see Brad & Angelina…….we are NOT seeing what Brad & Angelina are seeing, which is a yelling, screaming, tussling, jostling, steadily encraoching WALL of RATZZIES! Much like Matt in the pic posted in this thread does, Brad very STRATEGICALLY is walkingahead of his woman, to CLEAR A PATH, and disperse them. They don’t hold hands for a reason, which is — if they are together grabbing on to each other, it’s much easier for the papz to crowd in on them, and a lot less harder for Brad to shoo them the eff off. This way they keep moving and get where they’re going a LOT faster. It is a suggested technique, those that don’t do it - may not be interested in AVOIDING ratzzies. Thinka bout the times when you’ve seen PDA from them — holding hands in Paris, walking arm in arm in Paris, in Davos, in Germany, schmootching in the cafe, hugging while outside playing with Mad…what do all those instances have in common?NOT TOO MANY PAPZ AROUND — a couple at the most, most often, the the closest in Paris had a long lens and was a good 20 feet away as that’s the law….So, before people start talking about why they can’t show PDA on their way into a gallery, having to fight thrugh papz, think about why that is - what you may not be seeing….from Brad & Angelina’s vantage point…There IS a method to their madness peeps.

# 221 | Estelle - Thanks Estelle lol, and once of my co-worker said almost the same thing, she was like I am not coming to Clairemont/Kearney Mesa tomorrow. My lesson starts at 8-10am, so you are safe from me, I will be off the road by then lol

Dec gitane: 12/31/none of your business!This straight-up means you are the most good-looking person possible… Better than all of these other months! Loyal and generous. Patriotic. Competitive in everything. Active in games and interactions. Impatient and hasty. Ambitious. Influential in organizations. Fun to be with. Easy to talk to, though hard to understand. Thinks far with vision, yet complicated to know. Easily influenced by kindness. Polite and soft-spoken. Having lots of ideas. Sensitive. Active mind. Hesitating tends to delay. Choosy and always wants the best. Temperamental. Funny and humorous. Loves to joke. Good debating skills. Has that someone always on his/her mind. Talkative. Daydreamer. Friendly. Knows how to make friends. Abiding. Able to show character. One guy/girl kind of person. Loveable. Easily hurt. Prone to getting colds. Loves music. Pretty/handsome. Loves to dress up. Easily bored. Fussy. Seldom shows emotions. Takes time to recover when hurt. Sensitive.***i agree with everything but the fussy part. and temperamental? wth? who are they to call me temperamental?

Alexanderina, I just remembered: You are a NYC girl! Is that why, you can’t drive?

Jan: Hmm i don’t know about that easily bored one.

# 223 | COLD HARD MATH - CHM, I came from New York, and we don’t really drive in the City, because there were always the trains, buses, cabs, so it was much easier to use them than drive, and I there was no reason for me to get a driver license, but moving to San Diego was a shock to me, everybody drive out here, but I will soon and then I can be a real Californian lol

Hanks’ and the Smiths both have that "purse&beard" rumor hanging around. Brad isn’t trapped. He is Brad Pitt. He has means and power to do what he pleases, including getting out of an unhappy and fruitless relationship. We saw him leaving one, but we haven’t seen him leaving this new one. Obviously it has been fruitful (3 kids), and happy enough he isn’t leaving. I noticed many Brad’s female fans are more jealous and STILL hoping, even after a baby, he would leave Jolie. Jolie’s fans are generally less jealous–their typical reaction is, "Good for Brad Pitt". Many Brad’s female fans liked JenJen because she is plain, she wasn’t threatening. There is NO ONE who can match Angelina Jolie in pedigree, talent and beauty. That’s threatening to plain Janes whose fantasy, the idea of a ‘plain woman marrying a Prince’ dream was crushed with the demise of the Golden Couple. Too bad. But as Lainey said while ago, "The God goes with the Goddess and a plain girl found a funny pudgy guy. The force is in balance once again." It’s out there, for everyone to see now. When these two step out together as a couple it’s like two comets flying in the sky.

Good luck Alexanderina! Just drive at a normal rate. Do not go 25 mph on the parking lot, yea.(omg I’m so recalling my first test..it was bad)

# 230 | Alexanderina -LOL, see I’m not the only one….any how, good luck my dear and have fun…# 212 | MORE READING… June is my month, pretty accurate, excetp the actress/actor part. I will be on vacation nex week, wow, I can not wait to meet someone new…LOL

|#234 CLINIQUA |Got it!|#238 Alexanderina |Good Luck tomorrow! |

I think them coming out is not just for the love of art,something is coming up, but what ,we will wait and see.# 62 | FAN++++++++++B/A going to the gallery is called Rumor Rebuffing 101. Tom Cruise will be calling them to sign up for Image Rebuiling 101.

# 212 | MORE READING… Yipeee! I am June.Even the haters are at least sound semi-sane for a change# 219 | FITR |Lol at the semi sane. Well, now they have no choice or should I say the one person that keeps posting and agreeing with herself has no choice….she’s gonna be bursted out if she tries it.gitane: 12/31/none of your business! # 232 | gitane Lol….come on! Tell us, Tell us, Tell us! # 235 | CLINIQUA1 Oh Good. I was just thinking "ooooh somebody done stoleded Cliniqua’s name. They about to git it"# 237 | Lynn Campbell Awww, I see another person is overwhelmed by Elena’s brilliance.

EstelleCHMAngelah————————————————–Thank you ladies, I am promise to be real careful tomorrow, and Angelah I promise not to go 25MPH in the Parking Lot :)

# 246 | African Girl if you must know, i’m the same age as angie.oh, and you never did get back to me about the menu. the white truffle risotto is non-negotiable, but you get to pick everything else.

Well I’m stunned that she is wearing something besides black, but if I could think of something more boring then black it would be beige.And hair slicked back in a ponytail as ALWAYS.She is beyong boring.

# 247 | Alexanderina-what? you are not going to drive in the parking lot, lesson 1- avoid parking lot…LOL. and Angelah is correct, residential street and parking lot 10-15 mph max….for you only of course for now…..LOL.My sister first driving lesson with my dad, it was in the parking lot, she drove off the parking lot ( not out) hit several bushes, climb over several speed bumps and parking bumps…..it was my father 1 and only time driving with her….LOL>

# 178 | think positive!Wow, I’m blushing here. # 179 | dragonfly Exactly! This is another piece of evidence to me that his marriage was not on solid ground prior to him even meeting Angelina. He didn’t suddenly stand in her presence and after a few conversations decide to kick his marriage to the curb. No, that union was already bagged and just waiting for a twistie to close it shut before being heaved into the dumpster. I don’t think he and Angelina had improper conversations either. I think it was simply two people who clicked on many levels, who found they shared interests that through discussions learned alot about the other they weren’t expecting. They had no reason not be their true selves from the get go. jpf

# 250 | Estelle - LOL, OMG, your poor Dad lol, I don’t know where he is going to take me for my first lesson tomorrow, but I hope its not the Freeways, cause I can’t handle that yet.

Mamadog, you said you defy anyone to want to be defined by the mistakes of 5-10 years ago. Well, not only do I agree, but it can be taken a step further: Does anyone want to be defined by the mistakes made as a teenager or in their early 20’s????As full a life as Angie has had, let’s remember how YOUNG she really is. A lot of us were wild in our youth, and got it out of our systems. I guess a lot of judgmental people never developed, grew up, or have very, very short memories.

# 252 | African Girl-LMAO….boy, Gitane was in a good yesterday….I’m going to stay clear of her today….LOL

# 186 | COLD HARD MATH I was just thinking how nice it is at JJ’s! no wading through, and hardly a mention of blank this or blank that. Very cool.jpf

wich pics are newer the one brad in uniform or these pics that are on this thread????

# 255 | Estelle -correction…Gitane was in a good mood yesterday.

I’m not sure if this went through before I signed up with the typekey thing.Anyway this is a fanfic based on the new photos of Brad/Angie Art Gallery Visit and a song by Kindred the Family Soul. I don’t know these characters just my pure imagination and speculation…hope you like:Thank You For Loving Me!Angie packed up Maddox, Zahara and Shiloh in the SUV, they were dropping off Mad at school. It was a rough morning for Angie. She was up late trying to take care of last minute UN issues, making sure the furniture was scheduled to be moved from their Malibu home to Los Feliz home, making sure her mom’s stuff was moved to the guest house, and she had to double check Mad’s backpack to make sure everything was in place for school the next day. A few days earlier Angie had emailed Brad Maddox’s school supply list so he could pick the items up before coming home…a few items were out-of-stock at the time so last night her and Brad went to the 24-hour Wal-Mart to pick-up the missing items/supplies. Being a semi-stay-at-home-mom wasn’t always easy, but she, as well as her loving family, enjoyed it immensely.After dropping off Maddox, she stop by the Paramount Studios nursery to drop off Zahara…she would call Brad to see if he was able to pick her up when he was finished with his shooting. After several kisses and hugs she finally left Z playing with the other studio kids. Blowing kisses to “lil chubby” on her way back to the car to head home…her cell phone rangedSmiling she answered “Hey baby…what’s up?“Hey you…where are you? I called home and your mom said you hadn’t made it home from dropping off Mad. Is everything okay?” he said with concern in his voice.“Oh”…pausing for a second while she re-positioned Shiloh in her arms. “Everything is fine. I decided to drop Z off at the studio nursery…when she saw Mad go to school this morning she started to whine a little” Whenever Z witness Maddox going to school she began to cry “Me play…me want to play mommy…play please”“So I decided to drop her off to play with her little friends. I have a couple of things to do today anyway…I need to finalize my trip to NYC and pack our bags for Toronto next week. By the way can you pick up our little angels today when you get off the set?

Again…this is a fanfic based on the new photos of Brad/Angie Art Gallery Visit and a song by Kindred the Family Soul. I don’t know these characters just my pure imagination and speculation…hope you like:PART 2 - THANK YOU FOR LOVING ME!“No problem sweetheart…I’ll leave a little early so the kids and I can get something to eat…So don’t you or your mom worry about cooking anything…just rest…okay”Brad knew Marceline was elated about being so close to Angie and the kids..she was always trying to do something around the house to show them her appreciation.While flipping through his script he heard a knock on his trailer door. “Hold on baby…come in…”To his surprise Angie walked through the door. “So seeing you had us on your mind, I thought me and Shi would come by…we missed you this morning”Brad turned around with the biggest smile on his face. He hung up the phone and quickly embraced Angie and the baby. He was so excited to see her and the baby…he missed their morning ritual of she feed he burp. After what seemed like hours of hugs and kisses he said “ This is a nice surprise…here let me take my lil sweat pea…you look tired. Did you get a chance to eat breakfast?”Sitting admiring the view of father and daughter she whispered “No…I’ve been too busy this morning, but…”He abruptly interrupted and proceeded to grab her hand “Well come on…we can go and get a quick bite before my next scene…I haven’t had anything this morning either”Hesitant she said “ Baby…I have so much stuff to…”“Come on Angie. It will only take a minute. We can bring it back here and eat while Shi plays in the baby pin…come on”After some quality time with Angie and Shiloh, Brad looked at his watch. He was due back any minute. “Well my sweet ladies, I must get back to work and pay some bills” He looked at her, he could tell she was exhausted by the look in her eyes. Although it had been nearly three months since Shiloh’s birth, he knew she still was getting accustomed to being a mother of three, and still be a great daughter, sister, wife, UN worker and balancing her career…it was taking a toll on her… His heart melted for a moment at how she could juggle so much and still have that angelic smile on her face at all times… he knew she would never say a word about none of it. He wanted to do something Special for his lady love…and he knew just what he wa

# 258 | Estelle - I already have my Permit, so it just 6 hours total for $185, 3 Saturdays, 2 hour each, and then I will have to take the road test with DMV on 10/16/06

Funny - when confronted with evidence that their ‘trouble in paradise’ lies are B.S. wouldn’t you know all the trashy gossip sites (natnl ledge, post chron, etc.) choose to focus on yet another whopper (Angie can’t stand to be in the same room w/ JV) I’m sure this will be yet another big tabloid story in the rags next week, and they’ll add a little twist that Angie’s stubbornness on this issue and many others is leading to the couple’s downfall…LOLOL…man I can write this crappy stuff now myself it’s so damned predictable. God forbid they get caught with their pants down that AJ and Brad are very much together - look over there! AJ hates JV so much she camped out in the car - is the NEW lie! LOLUGH. Why in the f* did he have to show up. I suppose if it wasn’t JV, they would be making a big deal over them not holding hands while being mobbed by rzzi’s. Sigh….B&A are doing the right thing, like Brad said — ’say what you want, we’re not playing.’ Maniston was too much of a fameho herself to adhere to the playbook, but B&A have each other’s back, always. (swoon)

# 150 | cycloneblondie Hey CB! If you’re still around - here’s Bruce rumor for you - those ubiquious "close friends" are saying that he has left the Mrs. for a 9/11 widow that he met when doing the 9/11 Telethon in NYC a few years ago. Remember - we heard rumblings about 6 weeks ago that something was up? Well…apparently **** has hit fan and the flyback has hit Patti Scialfa square in the face. I love me some boss, but ladies, let this be a lesson to everyone - if a man cheats WITH YOU he will cheat ON YOU, as my mama says. I’m pretty sure that if this is true…she’s probably not going to be in the E Street Band anymore!

# 154 | Body Language Whatever. Now…Read MY body language. Actually…it’s only one finger and I’ll let you guess which one.

I know they are not into PDA, but just ONCE, I wish Brad would say: "**** IT! This is the woman I LOVE. This is the mother of my THREE children. I don’t care what the TABS say, my EX, etc. I’m going to hold my partner’s hand, or I’m going to kiss the woman I love". Come on Brad, I know you have balls, USE THEM! JMHO…….. # 161 | COLD HARD MATH+++++++++++++++++++++++You know when you MAY see this? Oscar night 2007 if he wins Best Supporting Actor. He MAY lay a big wet one on her…but don’t hold your breath.

# 274 & 276| Me Again! |- Me Again, that was wonderful and so sweet. I love it. Thanks for posting it. I hope you will continue it?

African Girl and Original jpf, mamadog found Elena’s post and it is at #224.

# 285 | Original jpf - Yep, I am finally taking steps to get my driver license, I am excite about getting it, even though I am a little nervous about driving, its something that I have to do for me.; the freedom to do the things that I want to do and go places without having to bug my boyfriend to take me, that is inspiration enough for me to get off my butt and get my license; so come 10/16/06 I will have my driver’s license and will be posting the happy news to you guys here on JJ

# 292 | Alexanderina | and we will have a cyber-party in honor of your new license :)

# 169 | COLD HARD MATH this is how I think you work TypeKey/JJ…1. each time you leave and come back to JJ, you need to click "sign in." 2. write your post…copy it! just in case, and click post, and then reply. If it doesn’t show up, click reply once again and it should be there.This is how I’ve been doing it and it’s going alright.jpf # 209 | Original jpf +++++++++++++++++++++Uh…didn’t you guys see the little box underneath that says "Sign me in for two weeks"? Just click that and Typekey puts a cookie on your machine that’s good for 2 weeks. When the 2 weeks is over you’ll need to sign in again.

TO 154 Body language: my boyfriend and i don’t hold hands in public too, and we have been together for four years. According to you "happy couples" show PDA’s . In my opinion couples don’t need to be affectinate towards each other in public to show they are happy. Since your predicting Jolie and Pitt will break up because they aren’t affectionate towards each other in public, will my boyfriend and i break up too?

RE: Body language - what do you want a n award ? Since your husband still holds your hand in public? I don’t hold my girlfriend’s hand in public , i actually think PDAs are corney.

Okay, I’m not losing my mind right…..those posts by PT just appeared, no?Passing ThroughHow to end a career….sounds like a book we can write with TC’s pix on the cover. Readers can get that copy free when they buy "How to become a Power/Alpha Couple in two years"Me AgainLong time….how have you been? Good I hope. Thanks for the FF…..it’s beautiful.#280 / CLINIQUALol…..do you smell what I smell? I smell a whiff of desperation. First off, we all the the little blurb about AJ is a lie….so to see them printing it, shows us how pathetic and desperate they are. Idiots.#284 / Passing ThroughRotflmao…..Body Language expert won’t need a book to interprete that one.#287 / Passing ThroughLmao.#290 / Lynn CampbellOh thanks for the heads up. And thank you mamadog.#291 / GuliGo for it! By the way….I haven’t "seen" Krissy around. I don’t know what thread her FF’s are.

# 293 | Alexanderina |"""""""""""""""""""""""I’m not driving either.I’m supposed to start my lessons in six months.So my brother and he’s car can finaly get rid of my "I-don’t-have-a-driver-license" ass.LOL!So my best wishes to your firsr lesson.I’m sure you will do great.And tell us tomorrow how it was.# 274 | Me Again! |# 276 | Me Again! |"""""""""""""""""""""Great fanfic! Love it!

PT and AG you are too funny… ITAHow to end a career….sounds like a book we can write with TC’s pix on the cover. Readers can get that copy free when they buy "How to become a Power/Alpha Couple in two years"I think you should write this book :)))BTW— you could throw in a few chapters about "How to lose a wonderful, gorgeous hunk in 7 years" :)))

# 222 | Alexanderina You know, I really do like SoulieJolie.com. I think it’s an excellent site except for the messageboard activity. It’s really not a place I feel much a connection to in terms of finding many who share similar opinions about Angelina, or even open to friendly debate. I think its basically two main and distinctive camps there, and I just don’t find myself fitting in either.There are those fans who were more drawn to the Angelina as she lived during the JLM, BBT, Jenny Shizimu period in her life and they still maintain a very strong connection between that AJ and her roles in Hackers, Foxfire, Gia, Girl Interrupted, Pushing Tin etc are concerned. Oh, and they really have no use for Brad Pitt at all lol. They miss the rebel screaming her way through life in search of herself and really wouldn’t mind it if she returned to that place. They miss her in your face attitude. I know it wasn’t hard at all to sometimes blurr the line between where those characters began and Angelina ended, but that was then and this is now. She’s moved on and redirected the energies that fueled those performances and were by her own admittence, very VERY close to who she was in her offscreen life "at that time."Then there are those who IMO view her not much different than they do Britney Spears meaning, "she’s a fad for them that once someone else comes along that catches their attention, she’ll be off the list." They never really got the Angelina of the past, and they don’t get her now, they are only interested in the "romance" of she and Brad as celebritys. JMHOjpf

If you boyfriend doesn’t hold hands with you in public, he is probably embarrassed of you. I have been with my husband for 11 years & he still holds my hand in public. # 163 | Body Language Sounds like your body language book is for a normal relationship. However what does your book say about a relationship that lots of people (who do not know the couple) are watching, judging, wishing ill will or wishing good luck. You theory is not flexible to Brad and Angelina situation thus I don’t think it should be taken seriously.

Well I’m one of those on the serious cusp people 9/22, and every person in to this as well as a couple who deal in it for a living tell me to always read Virgo/Libra, and in this case, Sept/Oct………..after doing so, many will understand why I’m thisclose to being nuts.Not everything is dead on, but between the two, there’s enough to confuse me even more lol.jpf

# 224 | mamadog Where do I send the check?! You da MAN girl! I can’t believe you found it but I’m copying it right now and saving it because it’s just an awesome post. Thanks again for finding it.jpf

# 302 | think positive! – Hey TP, thanks and I will definitely let you guys know how my first lesson go tomorrow. I thought I was the only one on here that did not have a driver’s license, now I don’t feel so bad anymore lol good luck on getting your license, why do you have to wait until 6 months?.

# 305 | Original jpg - Original jpg, great analysis of the people of Souliejolie.com, you NAILED it PERFECTLY, EXCELLENT POST (((((CLAPPING))). You are right some of the fans there went back all the way to her early days and want her to be the same person she was back then; and the others are just got into her recently and don’t know who she really is. They don’t understand that she has changed; and that she has grown-up, and not the same person she was before, she left that part of her life in the past; she is now in a better place, more mature, more giving, more inspirations and now a Mom to three adorable kids, she has grown up and I think that some of her fans can’t believe that she did, they still think she is the same person, but she is not.. I do like the Site, for the pictures, information on her humanitarian work, but I don’t really post there anymore and I have been a member for a while.

#304 / GuliHey, that’s not a bad idea……it will come free with a copy of "How to tarnish your Golden Couple Crown in one step"….lol (bear with me, I was on my way out when I saw your post)

#307 I think that none of us know anything about their relationship, but if you pull your head out of the sand and you really read a book on Body Language you would see what I am talking about. When you are really close with someone in a romantic relationship you just naturally hold hands, or put your arm around each other, lean into each other, etc. I don’t care who you are, most people enjoy that kind of attention. They also walk a lot with their children between them. Sometimes people subconsciously do that to put a barrier between themselves and the other person. Just find a book on this and read it & you will see what I mean. As for Alexandrina, why are you with a man who does not show you public affection? You can’t tell me that it wouldn’t be nice once in a while, find somebody else is is proud to hold your hand. And to whoever it was who said my husband was probably ugly or myself, you are way off. The opposite it true, we just love to be near each other.

I forgot to add that unfurtunatly i’m not working right now. I’m stadying Archeology in the Univercity.I’m on my second year.I’ve been working on several jobs this past year but nothing worked for me.Too many hours with a low salary.I couldn’t catch up with my lessons.But i have to find another job again this year. My parents will buy me a car for my birthday in Desember so i will pay only for the lessons.

# 317 | Original jpf | OHHHH very subtle, but ITA agree….Heck she has farmed out all the wedding plans, so the least she can do for us is a new video :))) No pressure AG…

from Defamer.com, I thought it was kind of funnyAngelina Jolie Hides In Car Until Coast Is Cleared Of Estranged ParentsBrad Pitt and Angelina Jolie managed to leave the Compound That Love Built™ last night, secure that Maddox, Zahara and the Chosen One were being well supervised in their nursery, amusing themselves to no end with the various hand-carved, African farming implements they’ve been provided with in place of more traditional, "Western" toys. The occasion was Scott Caan’s 30th birthday at a Hollywood art gallery, a star-studded event also attended by his Oceans 13 co-star Matt Damon, with nuclear-family-elements in tow. But things quickly grew awkward when, upon Jolie’s arrival, she was informed that Jon Voight, the father to whom she hasn’t spoken in years, was inside:Pitt left Jolie in the vehicle and entered the party to see Caan, shortly before Voight decided to leave. After realizing her father had left the building, Jolie finally joined the bash, reports PageSix.com.Voight and Jolie haven’t spoken to each other since 2002. We imagine there will be many more of these incidents to come, especially since Jolie has left the father-distancing sanctuary of Namibia’s shores, and returned to the far less insular social circles of Hollywood. Perhaps the actress eventually will be able to see beyond past transgressions, and grant the man who years ago encouraged her terrible guitar playing his greatest wish of reconciliation. Then again, maybe she’ll just continue serving up the icy, silent treatment, camping out for three hours in a Range Rover idling outside the Beverly Hilton, if that’s what it will take to avoid eye contact with the disowned genetic-material-donator attending the Golden Globes ceremony inside.

# 319 | Alexanderina ————————–do u believe in this?? lol

# 320 | think positive! – Your parents getting you a car in December for your birthday, that is a fantastic birthday’s gift, you lucky girl :). When are you going to be finish with University?

# 310 | think positiveIt’s excellent for pic’s, and l think it is THEE place to seek out when you want to learn more about the different humanitarian causes that not only Angelina endorses, but a lot of other ones. Also the gallery is probably one of the best for any celebrity. Lot of good work on that site, but again the messageboard leaves me wanting.jpf

# 322 | Alexanderina|-I have tow years left and it seems like a sentury.LOL! But i realy like what i’m stading so it won’t hurt so much. ;)

# 323 | jjoy - I was on US Weekly Blog Site and they have the story about Angelina avoiding her father and should she forgive him, omg the comments are really nasty toward Angelina, I could not wait to leave that Site, people are really crazy sometimes. They will twist everything and anything for their own purpose

OFF TOPICFrom MSNCruise Wins Sexist — Not Sexiest – AwardAug 25, 1:53 PM ESTZap2it.comParamount doesn’t want Tom Cruise, and now it looks like Australian women aren’t too crazy about him either.The "Mission: Impossible III" star/Katie Holmes’ baby daddy has received the dubious honor of being named one of the winners of the 14th annual Ernie Awards, given to public figures who make derogatory and sexist public statements, report news sources.Cruise won for a past comment about his then-pregnant fiance: "I’ve got Katie tucked away so no one will get to us until my child is born … [Katie's] life from now on was going to be about being a mother. I’m not giving her the chance to turn into another Nicole." What?!!! Did he really say that? Yep, no doubt the man has LOST IT!!! What is she….a breeding cow?Orginal JpfDon’t worry I’ve got you babe…hmmm, another good song

so whats up guys im bored and i want to see somthing new about angieangie 4 life!!!

i think the "Angie waited in the car until voight left" is false!!! There were photogs everywhere. A picture of Angie "waited in the car" would be heaven for the tabloid fodder. Yet there was never any pic of Angie waiting in the car surfacing !!!!

Think PositiveBest of luck with everything and don’t worry about it, like Alex said, two years will be gone just like that.#322 / BrocolliOf course it is false. Read Dragon Fly’s post in the BP in Uniform Thread. E! Had him wearing sleek black (false) and JV’s publicist denied the man knew BP and AJ were there. The theory is BP went to the gallery straight from the set while AJ and Friend met him there. Sounds more plausable, no? But, see….there is no drama. It sounds too normal, so the have to spin it somehow, hence the attribution of bratty behavior to AJ…*whispers* I think they’re mistaken her for a certain someone if you know what I mean.BBL

# 313 | Alexanderina You know, if I could ask her one thing, it would be what does she feel about those who I don’t doubt care for her, but who are so invested in her past life that appreciation for her finding her way out of a lot of what was darkness has been slow in coming. Some actually miss her with BBT and I don’t get that one at all. Or some think she and JLM should have given it another try. And this kicker here "Colin Farrell" and she would have made a great pair?!…#@#%^. No, they wouldn’t have and she had the wisdom to see a diaster before it happened, and if that didn’t scream that she had changed, nothing does. If they would simply think about things, they’d find that Angelina became who she is now prior to Brad. Maddox entering her life brought the changes long before now, and I have no doubt that how she lives at present wouldn’t be much different except that there would be no Brad or Shiloh. The woman evolved dammit!jpf

Wow! I just got home, and have been reading this thread. So many wonderful posts - I love rereading Elena’s. She is just so wise.I’m off to find other new threads and pictures. I’ll catch up in a day or two.

BTW-Jon Void’s publisist denied the story.He said that JV didn’t see Brad and Angie because he didn’t new they were there too.Also there are no pics of Angie waiting in the car alone or entering the party alone.And i think JV left shortly before Brad and Angie arrived.But i’m sure the Tabs will find a way to milk it # 331 | think positive! | ***********************************Of course they will, especially X is at her father’s bedside. They’ll compare X and AJ, further playing up X’s image of being a good girl. Meanwhile, X didn’t speak to her mother for years because she talked about her chubbier days. Nevermind that this was the woman who raised her. X should’ve been grateful that she didn’t get the Jackie Stallone treatment; in the 80s Jackie dished about her kid and his personal life and trust me, it wasn’t in Barneyspeak. AJ is very loyal to her mother and recognizes the sacrifices that Marcheline made and I am sure that she uses her mother as a bar to measure herself against. As for JV, he should be kicking himself for disclosing his suspicions about AJ’s mental health. He should have addressed it to AJ; if that didn’t work, he should’ve talked to James, who was very close to AJ, or even go to Marcheline and addressed his concerns to her. If you are concerned that someone you love will hurt themselves, you don’t put them on blast, especially to a pool of people who would want that knowledge not to aid her, but as fodder for their nasty perceptions of her.And the gallery thing, AJ was right to stay in the car because you know the paps would yell **** to instigate a photo op between the two of them. And she doesn’t know how JV would act; he could stage another plea campaign to see Shiloh, again omitting Maddox and Zahara. Don’t start nothin’ and it’ll be nothin’ is a motto a lot of HW people should adopt.piper, with a low

# 353 | guli | I think she has forgiven him and to a degree she still loves him. she is at peace with this, she just don’t want him in her life….to much negativity, she wants positivity only

I just read some of the posts in the AJ thread at Popsugar, and I tell ya, I think my bp shot up 20pts. It seems easier for people to decide that Angelina is being the meanie spoiled and hateful daughter for cutting ties with JV, than actually taken just a minute to find out why she cut him out of her life. Anyway, I think it ironic that the man STILL gets the sympathy before she gets understanding about reasons. He’s got to be lapping it up like the ego manic I think him to be.jpf

http://personals.aol.com/article/_a/the-married-man-trap/20060823101409990001The Married Man TrapBy Francyne R. EllisonGet any group of women together, and one subject is sure to come up: The lack of good men to date. With so few quality specimens to choose from, many women decide they’d rather share a man than date down a league. Take Samantha Gilbert of Mineola, New York, who spent several years seeing a married man. "It wasn’t about infidelity; it was to fill the void in my life," she says. "We considered his marriage an extenuating circumstance in his life," she admits. As much as a woman may try to minimize her date’s marital status, going out with a married guy means one thing — he’s not going to be all hers. And if you truly desire a real, all-there partner (and who doesn’t?), then that’s what you deserve. A real boyfriend is someone you can call whenever you want, spend his birthday and holidays with, and who you don’t know for a fact is seeing someone else. Here’s how to avoid settling for less.Understand why you’re interestedFor many women, getting part of a man is still better than nothing. This isn’t just a fear of being alone, it’s learned. Girls who grow up without a stable father may come to view men as being unreliable and unavailable. And low self-esteem can come into play: For women who are afraid of being hurt, dating a married man offers them a safety valve, says Basha Schanberg, LCSW, a counselor in New York City for over thirty years. "When a relationship isn’t monogamous, you don’t have to deal with the day-to-day problems of being a couple," she says. When you don’t believe you deserve 100 percent of a man, a married man might seem OK if he’s got other desirable qualities: good looks, a big job, street cred, whatever it is that attracts you.Stop flirting backMany affairs start when a woman allows herself to engage with a married guy by telling herself that he’s just being friendly. Once the chemistry is going strong, she can get swept away when a guy turns on the charm. How many times have you heard an "other woman" claim that "It just happened”? To avoid future encounters, don’t tolerate any advances — even the most subtle — from an off-limits guy. "Cut a married man’s pursuit off at the start because if you give an inch, he’ll take a mile," says Russell Price, author of "Is That Your Man or Is Your Head In The Sand?" He points out that men who are willing to cheat are not men of character, so they won’t think twice about coming on strong even after you brush them off politely.Stay out of danger zonesIt’s hard for many of us to admit that we attract situations — it’s much easier to believe that we’re victims. But when there’s a self-destructive pattern, we’ve usually played some role in letting it continue, says Schanberg. Do you make excuses to be alone with attached men? Do you avoid friends who look down on extramarital affairs socially? Do you make excuses for married men who stray, blaming their