Re: Guli and African Girl on Oprah and hi to Guli,
ITA, could not have said it better.
Re #48 African Girl
“I truly believe that Education is the first step. We’ve these uneducated men ruling……doing things they know nothing about. There is nothing as dangerous as an illiterate with power and to see just how dangerous”
I agree with you on this too, but the militia is a powerful entity in most African, southeast Asian and some near eastern countries and that is how Idi Amin got into power. With a rudimentary education, he was clearly a thug. The people of Uganda never had a chance. I have lived in Kampala for a short time and had the opportunity to talk to the everyday person. Kampala, the Capital of Uganda, has nine Univerisities and Uganda as a whole has a 52% literacy rate (stat from 1990). This is very good for a third world country considering there are tribes and villages that are inaccessible by most average means. The problem in Uganda which is all that I can speak about from first hand experience is that no matter how much education a local has, they cannot get a job. Uganda is considered one of the most progressive African countries. The influx of Europeans, especially the British, Pakistanis, Indians and Japanese establishing businesses is quite noticeable but they will not hire the locals. They bring in people to work for their companies from their respective countries. I stayed in a private home where the inhabitants had a full time cook, named Beatrice. Beatrice had a degree in hotel management but told me she no one would hire her because she was a Ugandan. This appeared to be the norm when I started talking to other locals. President Museveni has a bachelor of arts degree in Economics andPolitical Science from the University of Dar es Sadaam, which is quite respectable and he is doing alot to provide education for all children, however when I visited a school, there were 110 children in one regular sized classroom and one teacher, ages ranged from 7 to 15 years. One has to wonder how a student learns under those circumstances…there are no books, the school cannot afford them. Everything is done off the chalkboard and posters. Uganda teaches about AIDS starting at five years old in this particular school and they are actually “tested” on the subject matter.
Something must be working when you note that there nine universities in Kampala alone. The problem is the lack of jobs even for the educated and the lack of support to hire the locals from the big businesses with origins outside Uganda. President Museveni, although educated himself is caught in the middle.

#281 Ben

I went back to p 1 to read all your posts. When Aniston was mentioned by some fellow poster, you said you refused to discuss about her.
Why are you bringing Angie in at the last paragraph of your post?
Is this hypocritical???

Well, I tell you that. Jennifer never gives back to society. She is selfish. She is a fraud. She is the “me me me” person. She does not take responsibility. She blamed her marriage failure on other people.

Who was it who said that everything X does is related to divorce and marriage, etc…ever since the break up movie..it’s true! The people on SNL should do a skit on it along with the boo-hooing on oprah bit too.

Sam :

You cant blame us for suspecting both you and Ben. Was Ben right in bringing out Angie when he (Ben) told us to leave Aniston out?
Is this fair?

301 | Jenni-POOP | Exactly, they pretend like they want to debate, (act all intellectual) but in the end u see thru the hatred

Why do Oprah and Jolie have to be pit against each other? So what, you have to qualify now in order to help others or to be deemed more worthy of helping others? I’m tired of all this. These two women aren’t competing so stop trying to make them.

That said, Ben, I read your response to AG and it was really enlightening. We could be talking about anything else. What a celebrity is wearing, who a celebrity is dating, but we are discussing the past, present and possible future of Africa and what should and shouldn’t be done to help. To me this is the whole point of Jolie/Pitt. Not that they are saving the world, but that there are bigger issues out there that should be talked about. It’s the reason I come to these boards because I am interested in learning more about how I can effectively help in this world. I was done with the Paris Hilton’s of the world and every other self-centered body who I was supposed to worship because they are famous. I don’t feel I have to worship Pitt or Jolie, but I am inspired and what’s wrong with that? So they aren’t perfect, who cares. Now when I read a celebrity blog the conversation gets a bit deeper and I’m glad of it.

Question: To Ben, what should be done to help in your opinion?

I knew Oprah was rich and powerful but I lost respect on her after biasly siding with Maniston. and don’t compare Oprah and Angie. How old is Oprah and how old is Angie.? Oprah was only a few years younger than her mother.

307 | first and last post |
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Thanks for your post. I like to know new things.
OT, your handle is cute. It reminds me of Passing Through. She has been here for more than a year now, and I am glad about that.

Sophia… not to knock your socks-off but they did made those teeth like that so as make the movie more believable. You know Brad got good set of choppers BUT SINCE you are a hater you can fathom yourself appreciating anything about people you despise. A hater is a hater is a hater…That’s about it!

I found it a bit ridiculous , when celebrity try to do some good deed, they were bash and criticized just like the recent adoption of. Madonna. I think most people would prefer celebrities just doing nothing other than sitting in the salon making their hair, tanning, shopping, party, talking about boob, talking about their lovelife. it seem shallow hollywood life was much prefer.

#322 +++

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AGREE 100%…SO TRUE, SO TRUE

Oprah, brings the attention to the problem, but does not point accusatory fingers.

297 | Sam |

IMO her not taking a stand is a negative. If she (a billionaire ) can’t stand up and fight than who can.

scary main pic! Gwyn-shut the **** up

I hate X’s fans, they don’t know ANYthing about the truth, they live with Huvane Goggles on and don’t read any articles that aren’t in the tabloids
They don’t ever cite facts with their rants. I don’t go to X threads even to read them anymore because I have a short temper and feel obliged to post and correct them. But in the past, (like up till Tuesday) I have. They use the word classy and nice person a lot , like they ever met her. they never quote anything from a real publication that says anything about her talent or temprament, that she herself isn’t being interviewed. What do the critics say about her? What do her peers say in respect to her disposition (not her friends) and talent? I would’ve like to see that on her threads but I never did.

There, my daily rant in an old thread. Cathartic.