Beyonce Performing “Listen” on ‘Oprah’

Jennifer Hudson is great….beyonce is good…..it’s sad….lol

If you americans hadn’t treated black people like **** they wouldn’t have felt the need to “coagulate” and to structure a separate community identity. If ya’ll had treated them like humans they would have been more readily assimilated into the american mass consciousness and you wouldn’t feel compelled to whine about **** like this on celebrity gossip blogs.

And no I’m not black, before you startup with that racial bias bullshit again. Why do you have to belong to a certain group before you’re allowed to feel empathy for them or to have insight into their processes? That’s ‘tarded!

Identity is what differentiates us from each other. I’m sure you’ve all heard the tired slogan about how our differences make us unique, well it’s true. If you take away a community’s sense of self you reduce them to nothing more than ‘units’. If you force people to wear the same uniform and to sport the same unsightly beard you force them to become mindless drones and that, I’d assume, is no fun.

Oprah unwittingly tends to be a bit separatist but I suppose she feels a sense of responsibility towards the black community and feels that she is the only voice they have since she is the only prominent black face on American TV who can affect cultural perception.

Oprah better watch out or you right wing nutjobs might just accuse her of having a ‘black agenda’ to go along with her ‘gay agenda’ and her ‘feminist agenda’.

I´m only going to watch LOST from now on…

That´s because most of them can´t act- or if they do, they only act the clishé parts.(Gangster, drug addicts, crazy fellas or the typical black; meaning lots of waving with hands and pseudo cool talk)

The only black actors who can really act are Wesley Snipes, Danzel , Lisa Bonet and all black people in LOST.(I reall ylove LOST)

I am saddened that the thread for Dream Girls became a place for people to argue and bad mouth Beyonce. Why can’t we enjoy both of the young ladies voices? They both sing beautifully. Why does one have to be considered better than the other? They have different styles. So what? I can enjoy and listen to both. Beyonce did not seem upset when Jennifer was being praise from Oprah. Jennifer stated that Beyonce was wonderful to her on the set. When you have success and are comfortable with yourself, you don’t become jealous of others. As for Beyonces speech, she as southern drawl but she doesn’t sound stupid. Give the girl a break.

what does race matter? this concerns some of the comments made above..the show was to promote DREAMGiRLS and apparently it is mostly an all black cast but this has to do with the script and the storyline not racial diversity. The point of the show was to promote the movie and ya’ll are taking it to another level by of course always trying to play the RACE.CARD. Let it go and enjoy what is suppose to be at the table, Oprah helping to promote a new movie. FYi Oprah does have a very diverse guest list, if we all recall correctly and watched her, she iS NOT closed minded when it comes to the RACE of her guests because who was the crazy person jumping on her couch? umm YEAH a WHiTE MAN named Tom Cruise. As we say where I live and regardless of what ya’ll think of it: GET OFF THA GAS.

So no argument against it then?

Thank again guys. Oprah is as racist and backwater as any redneck and no one can say otherwise.

No harm in it though. Except it causes people to hate black people or to justify their hatred.

Isn’t that right Kramer?

So let’s see, from the days my ancestors were forced over here and denied religion, freedom, and basic rights we all enjoy, Why do peope have a problem with the fact that we are proud of who we are, what we have accomplishes, etc. I implore to on any given day look at the majority of Oprah’s audience and the people on her show are not black. Majority of all media outlets, shows, movies, magaazines,etc feature whites with the occassional black, asian, or spanish person. Whether you like it or not, people look at race, they look at skin color, physical attributes, etc. I love it when people can’t figure out what I am because why does it matter. I”m proud to be both black and spanish and if you have a problem, well that”s your own insecurities. To the idiiot who stated that black people need to get along with everyone else, who the **** is everyone else suppossed to be?
You are not in the days of segrefation honey. Sorry for the the ass who stated that the only black people that can act are Denzel,etcn ***** get your mind right. Stop worrying about race and go see the movie.

Everyone else would be human beings ’sowhat’ you braindead r e t a r d. We’re not in the days of segregation, so why are you condoning segregation? Moron. You are a total failure.

Why don’t you address the point? There are very few black people in America. Separating yourselves as some sort of unified vindication is counter productive. Whether you do it yourselves or white people do it, it’s still wrong you fantastically stupid, stupid little girl.

I’ll never see this movie. I have no interest. Eddie Murphy is a joke and hasn’t made a decent movie in 15 years.

First of all there needs to be a “segregation” of the people with viable and meaningful statements to be made and those who are just angry at themselves for who they ARE and who they will never BE. Don’t lump EVERYONE into ANYTHING by generalizing statements based on race, gender, heritage or location because there is an exception to every rule. “Black” people don’t DEFINE themselves as “black” anymore than “white” people DEFINE themselves as “white”. If you have to “define” yourself by your race you are a shallow and lost individual as are those who “defines” anyone else the same way. Also, if you do not belong to the “black” race, you cannot sit on the outside looking in and think that you will accurately analyze what you don’t know about. If you look back in history, it was Europeans who defined “blacks” so, is it that when black people take ownership of something negative and neutralizes it that you get pissed off Stanley? If someone wants to separate themselves, as you put it, from anything it’s their choice and they are free to make it. Just as you are free to make the disagreeable remarks you’re making here. And if a person does so refer to themselves by their race it does not mean “look at me, I’m ready to be mistreated”. It means that they know WHO they are and it’s much more than WHAT YOU see. When the media begins to give more merit to the actions of PEOPLE and not what the BLACK man did then the undeserved stigma of ‘black is bad’ will be lifted

May I ask a question to Renee? What does where YOU reside have to do with YOUR racial views? I don’t like it when it rains but I still live in an area with precipitation. Just because you have a black adopted son doesn’t mean that you aren’t racist and just because you’re not black doesn’t mean that you hate black people. To see that a movie has an all black cast and feel that it’s racial shows that you have some hidden anger towards the black community unless you show the same resentment for an all white cast, which there is a great deal more of. Remind yourself that it’s just a movie that represents a small moment in movie history and is depicting but a portion of America and all will be right in your little world again. And if Oprah is racist, she’s not for or against black or white, she’s FOR green because she is a business woman. She has people on her show based on who will bring her the most GREEN (and the last I checked we didn’t have a racial group made up of green people).

And by the way… a person’s true ignorance is shown when they resort to name calling and using curse words in relaying your thoughts in place of unanimous vocabulary (Stanley).

Why decide that because black accept the term “black” to refer to a race of people that they belong to it opens them up for attack? Why attack them because they are “black” people? Isn’t that showing racism? No negativity is deserved when it’s based on your race. No one is born choosing to be the race that they are just as no one is born choosing to be short, tall, rich, poor, etc. Why should we decide to attack a “group” of INDIVIDUALS simply because it’s easy to? ‘Oh, there’s a group of blacks… let’s talk bad about them cause we can.’ Knowing who you are does not insinuate pride. If I asked you to described yourself and you said, ‘Six feet tall, white male with blue eyes and brown hair, weighing 180 lbs with an enjoyment for peanuts’, have you then segregated yourself to the “Six foot tall” group or the “people who enjoy peanuts” group of which you’re proud of? I can understand how people who make their existence whether good or bad revolve around their race but do you only dislike black people who “identify” themselves as black or do you dislike all black people because they are black? If someone is ugly and they own up to it does that make them proud? Maybe. Do you feel that their being ugly and proud make them superior to you? Only if you want to be proud and ugly too or if you are ashamed of how you look. Are you ashamed of your race? Does being ok with the race you were born into make you proud? And who was it that started dividing and defining people by their racial heritage in the first place? If you were raised around Asians only you’d probably relate more to Asians and feel more comfortable around Asians and if you didn’t have to interact with people you didn’t feel comfortable with you probably wouldn’t but does it make you a bad person to retreat to the familiar?

Look at something you have a problem with when it comes to people and apply it to yourself to see if it has merit before going on a tirade and insulting people you don’t even know especially when it’s generalized.

Can’t wait to see Dreamgirls!

Wow, you just proved how ignorant you truly are. If the points that I made WERE your points then YOU would have made THEM and not the little minded, dogmatic issues you have with the world. Everyone can do whatever they want which is why we live in a free society, including allow ill-bred individuals such as yourself who should probably seek professional psychological help (which by the way I can offer you).

“it’s okay to have an all black show. There have been all white shows and are still. So that’s acceptable racism?” Pick a stance and stick with it, or this John Kerry I’m speaking with? No racism is acceptable racism but then neither is sheer ignorance. Yet you prove that it’s alive and well.

“White people aren’t allowed to be proud to be white. They get called Nazi’s before they can finish the sentence. So there goes that point.” Wasn’t a point that I made but I’m guessing that it’s one that you did want to make. You have superiority issues because you don’t like who you are. It has nothing to do with black, white, green, blue or purple people it has to do with you.

“A persons true ignorance is shown by how ignorant they are.” Enough said.

“The “media” can give whatever merit it wants to black people. It should give it to people who do good things that happen to be black. Wrap your head around being something more than your skin” Ok, first off the “media” CAN’T give whatever merit it wants to black people without consequences. Most of the consequences rest on the shoulders of black people. And speaking of someone wrapping their heads around being more than their skin, you really ought to take your own advice. Don’t assume MY race because when you assume…

“How comfortable you are with people of your same race is irrelevant. Pre-existing racial bias is still racism.” First, the “pre-existing racial bias” term sounds like you. You have problems with black people and you need to figure out why. How comfortable you are with people of your same race IS relevant because just because you’re black OR white doesn’t mean you identify with that race of people which would cause a person put in that situation to be uncomfortable. Just because someone is white doesn’t mean that they identify with you (I should know) and a preference for the familiar does not suggest racism unless you intentionally exclude the unfamiliar (races). Now try not to waste anyone’s time or this blog’s space by posting inanity.