Brad Pitt And The Skipper Too

Premiere? LOL

Thanks, Jared. Going back to my lurking mode ——————–>

Lovely pics Jared especially of Zahara. Yup I do miss Angie, Maddox & Shiloh. Thanks again Jared

Thanks for the new pics. Brad looks great & Zahara looks like she’s having fun.

Why are we still on the Elle Interview??????? This is a new thread…….

The new thread talks about the Elle interview.

“Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born, I have less inclination to feel for her.”

oh man, is that ever gonna get picked up and twisted all out of meaning.

Doesn’t look like Mickey to me. A newbie, perhaps?

I think that someone should ask brad’s rep Cindy for a comment on this statement and see if she said it and if this interview is for real.

Is that Holly laying down in the 3rd pic of Zahara on the beach?

whose that six pack there!in short!

Why are we still on the Elle Interview??????? This is a new thread…….
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Because Jared put the quotes up there.

From the old thread:
Why was Brad not given the producer credit for The Departed ? His name and 3 others were written as the producers in the movie. and Plan B produced this film, isn’t it?
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When the Producers Guild Awards announced their nominations, they only put Graham King as a producer, after that the L.A Times had an article explaining why Brad Grey wasn’t in included and because of this his chances of winning a Oscar (if the Departed wins for best pic) is none, Martin Scorsese and King wrote a joint letter to the guild, asking it to reconsider, but looks like it won’t happen. The article didn’t even mention Brad’s role as a producer, so he won’t get the credit, only Graham King.

anon Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 11:17 am
“Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born, I have less inclination to feel for her.”

oh man, is that ever gonna get picked up and twisted all out of meaning.

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Exactly ! just like how the tab. twisted and spin her Vogue interview.

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Missouri Fan Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 11:24 am
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Thanks, almost forgot! Stayed up way to late trying to read the other thread. Too long!!! VOTE FOR BRAD! He’s not that far ahead!!!!!!!!

Yes it will be twisted, and to be honest , I don’t like the comment, and I am a fan. She should choose her words more carefully. She should feel for all 3 kids in the same way .. It is not Shiloh fault she was born into privilege, she feel for Shiloh, because the media is going to make shiloh life hell. That comment rubbed me the wrong way, and not only will tabloids run with it, the legit media is going to pick up on it. She should explain what she means.

AWWWW….Little Z is such a cutie pie!!!I love her!I love the pic where she smiles!! Thank you JJ for the pics!!

Btw it’s a new thread so maybe some of you should get over the “Elle” interview. Just my opinion.

i dont want the x to win this poll……b/coz i dont want her face hanging around my house!i have to keep voting!huhuhu i hope my price for this would be brads voto…ing hehe

Good morning BAMZERS!! new thread, thanks jj.
Bradley, don’t MAKE come up there and smack that butt out your mouth!

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jenny Says:
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Jenny as I said ealier and not long after this post, it’s empathy! Please re read what I wrote and maybe you’ll get it, also please read my comment #34. Do you understand now?

Thanks Jared and Audrey for the New Thread, we definitely needed it. Love the pictures of Brad so damn hot and Z she is so adorable, so precious and I love the look on her beautiful little face

Philippine Inquirer

My son is very close to me. I don’t know if that’s because we were alone for a long time. I can see a little bit of a difference between a mother and son and between a daddy and his girls. It’s quite interesting. On giving birth to a child or adopting a child, I honestly did expect that there would be a different feeling. I was very concerned that there would be and I prepared for that. There was absolutely none. Other than sometimes I look at Shiloh and I see Brad—that’s sweet—I don’t feel any differently. That was a wonderful surprise. I was so happy to have Shiloh in Africa, that we could do that and for her to have a Namibian passport. She has that connection to another country and to her sister’s part of the world. I think that ties them together a little.

Elle

“I think I feel so much more for Mad and Z because they’re survivors. Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born, I have less inclination to feel for her.”

Here you go MF—I’m still voting :lol: BAMZSers I just posted this at the last thread, MF wanted me to re-post it here … Here it is:

Hello BAMZSers I don’t know if this has been posted yet. From Simply Brad site

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BAFTA: The first selection round results have been published and Brad is nominated for Best Supporting Actor so far. Rinko Kikuchi and Cate Blanchett for Best Supporting Actress, Babel for Best Film, Best Director. Altogether Babel gets 13 nods thus far. The official nominees will be announced January 12th.

Angie to all the mofo’s

“People can think anything they want about me if it makes their time at the checkout counter go a little quicker. I’m all for killing time in the super market.”

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Philippine Inquirer vs Elle Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 11:42 am
Philippine Inquirer

My son is very close to me. I don’t know if that’s because we were alone for a long time. I can see a little bit of a difference between a mother and son and between a daddy and his girls. It’s quite interesting. On giving birth to a child or adopting a child, I honestly did expect that there would be a different feeling. I was very concerned that there would be and I prepared for that. There was absolutely none. Other than sometimes I look at Shiloh and I see Brad—that’s sweet—I don’t feel any differently. That was a wonderful surprise. I was so happy to have Shiloh in Africa, that we could do that and for her to have a Namibian passport. She has that connection to another country and to her sister’s part of the world. I think that ties them together a little.

Elle

“I think I feel so much more for Mad and Z because they’re survivors. Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born, I have less inclination to feel for her.”
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wow that is the complete opposite answer isn’t it? Interesting, hmmmm.

On a happier note, God Brad looks hot, and Z is such a cutie. Thanks Jared.

The bottom line is we all (including the ‘critics’) know she loves them to death, more than anybody on this earth. And that’s all that matters. End of discussion.

Pls vote Jennifer Morrison #4, she is only 200= votes behind ____.

i can see how people could misinterpret that statement but it blatantly obvious that she didnt mean anything negative by it.i reckon she meant that given maddox and zahara’s circumstances she feelf for them more as in empathises for them more cos let’s face it had angie not adopted them god knows what would have become of them whereas shiloh won’t have to endure what her brother and sister have had to so naturally you will empathise less.she did’nt say she loves her less.and i think this would be the same with everybody.for example,i have a few friends but one friend has had a pretty traumatic life compared to the others.and i empathise with this friend more than the others because of that.it’s the same thing as what angie was talking about.and the sad thing about this is the haters and possibly the tabloids are probably going to pick up on this and run with it.

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TAFTOUFA! Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 11:34 am

What? you’re here at the same time as me? WOW!!
I replied to your message on youtube. How are you? Up here ni the North East USA it will be nearly 70 F today, that’s 21 C. Ah? Ah? bet you didn’t know I knew how to do the conversion huh? It’s a record high from 1913.

Wait a minute…VOTE FOR BRAD! he was up by 200 votes now i’t 100 votes!

http://www.hellomagazine.com/vote/mostattractiveman/index.html?presentar=ver&reciente=false

guys, notice. when you vote for aj, jennifer a. number will change aiso. i have paid attention to that for a while.

Seriously, ENOUGH with this fr*gging poll…..

I aslo don’t like that comment either! I agree with Lucy and Sad, what kind of comment is that for a mother to make. Shouldn’t she have said I love all three children equally. Make what excuses you want for her, but this comment has so turned me off of her! I know Brad would never say anything like that.

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Mary Says: January 6th, 2007 at 11:54 am - and she is sooooo sad that u feel this way…. she’s crying right now… please!!!

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sad Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 11:48 am
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sad, hopefully during Shiloh’s life she will instill that empathy for those born into different circumstances in her, but I understand what your saying. In alot of ways I smile at the growing process Angie has gone through. She used to blurt out what was on her mind, to hell with the fallout. It’s amazing the woman she has become and is becoming, so sorry I get a bit defensive when her every word is, well you know. She should at this time be a bit more selective shall we say with her words, there are too many out there waiting for something like this to pounce on. I know your not one, just letting you know you’ve made understand the importance of watching her words at this time!!!

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Philippine Inquirer vs Elle Says:

The Philippine Inquirer article is the lastest interview Aneglina gave on this subject so by not believe that. If you were to read all Angelina’s interview, she has been consistent in what she says about the kids until this ELLE UK article. But yet some just can’t wait to jump on Angelina and call her names. How sad.

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Sheri Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 11:29 am

Hi Sheri !! Thank you! Take care of our Brad & Angie!!

Rowena- I’m counting on you!!
Ate Char getting nervous with Brad >> I would like to stay him as # 1 so as Angie!

See you all late evening!!

OY VEY! Poor Angie! This is going to hurt her so much. OF COURSE she means “feel” as in feel for their circumstance in life….Look at how horrid some of the haterz have been in the past. And, let’s face it, without Angie or someone like her, Mad and Zee would have been doomed. Shiloh in some ways IS “the chosen one” especially as long as she is the only bio child - when they have another bio and more adopted, things will be different. Shiloh won’t be the focus of so many razzi, and hopefully, people will become more accepting of a multiracial family. My friend at work just found out she will FINALLY get her little boy from Ethiopia next month….there are a LOT more people adopting from Africa, as for years they adopted from Asia. We’d BEST get used to it.

Thank you JJ for the pictures — especially of Zhaara I just adore that little girl.

Oh man, are we gonna have the back and forth that went on all last night because of that statement by Angie? We do not even know if this Elle Interview is real or just cobbled together from her past interviews — there are no new pictures in Elle (even the cover is an old one, they only changed the color of her gown) so maybe the interview is not directly from her? Because as far as I could tell, her Vogue interview contradicts what she said in Elle.

Man oh man, as I keep reiterating, I am just so glad that Angie is a strong woman and pays no mind to comments about her. And that Brad is a Zen master. All this negative vibes and negative comments would have demolished a lesser person by now — and for those who keep saying that Angie is not mentally stable because of her earlier cutting and suicidal thoughts, I wish you could trade places with her now and see how mentally stable you would be if you have to endure what she has to endure from the media, bloggers and so-called fans. I have never ever in my life witnessed so much name-calling of a woman who just happened to fall in love with Prince Charming!

the thing is people keep saying that her words are going to be twisted. But you don’t even have to twist this statement to get a bad feeling from it. What she said was not right and it reads not right.

Angelina gave a sanctioned interview with Vogue in which her comments were the opposite of what’s in the Elle UK version. The Phillipine interview is from her Photocall press for TGS. All reporters heard the same thing. I also find it very odd that the writer said she interviewed Angelina alone. Holly ALWAYS goes to Angelina’s interviews whether it’s Diane Sawyer or Ann Curry. Holly is there as her assistant. All of a sudden in the chaos that was India no one was there? She put that in there so it would be one person’s word against the other.

yes, Did you ever get ANy of mine? see my email adress ^^^^^ #72? I just got soo frustrated!!

BYE BYE Missouri Fan, nice lady!

DON’T BUY ELLE!!! The interview is a FAKE, the cover is a FAKE!!!

Good afternoon - I suppose there will many ideas about the comment that Angie made about Shiloh. She was just being honest with her feelings and that sometimes get people all riled up. Quite obviously she has different “feelings” for each one of her children, as they are all unique little individuals with different backgrounds, even at their young age.

For the love of G.O.D. She loves her kids beyond life itself, as does their Daddy, so do we have to debate every word that she utters, and dissect her feelings?

Look at the time and energy that her and Brad have put into making their family be a family. They are both there for the kids and each other.

Being a fan of Brad’s first, I always wanted him to have the children that he desperately wanted. When I look at that man when he is around his family, he looks so loving and almost vulnerable in such a handsome way. Angie has made this possible for him to be able to raise children and have his own family.

It’s a great debate, no doubt, and will probably go on for a couple of days, but for the intelligent fans, we all know what she meant….

Peace.

Alex: Loved the quote provided about the supermarket. I am going later today and will hold up the line gawking at the tabs.

MISSOURI FAN!
ok i’ll vote for angelina too :)!!
ISABELLE II!
THE LAST ONE I RECEIVED IS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE WEATHER LOL!no more!i gave u the wy to send!
and why are u frustrated??

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January 6th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
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Thank you very much for posting the entire paragraphs. I am so surprised that even fans are so willing to just read the quote taken out of context and judge Angelina — even saying that they no longer admire her or like her. WTF? If a simple quote that might not even be true can so easily turn you against her, then maybe you are not a fan after all. I have not been a long-time Angelina fan (I was more of a Brad fanatic) but even I read and re-read her interviews and make sure that I don’t just jump to conclusions. And I don’t bemoan the fact that she’s so honest and thus can often be misunderstood. I don’t want to muzzle her and tell her to shut up, because then she would no longer be Angelina Jolie. Even Brad told her to be as honest as she had always been (per Vogue interview).

I am inclined to believe that there was a part missing from the interview. For instance,
the theme for that paragraph is “her relationship with her children” and yet the answer does not really speak to the theme. Do you understand what I am saying? Its like she gave an answer to a follow up question the interviewer asked, but the interviewer neglected to put that question in the interview.

If the question was ” Is there a difference in the way see/love your children?
Then that answer would be no.
But
If the question was ” How do feel about the circumstances they were born in?
Then that answer would be like the Elle interview.

I will put this Elle interview in context……it was done in India….around October/November timeframe. Same with the Vogue interview done in September 2006. Since then, Angelina has been on the Larry King show where she stated in her own words…..there is no difference between her adopted children & her biological child…..on the same day that she and Brad walked the red carpet for the Good Shepherd premiere. That was on 11 December 2006.

Folks will ALWAYS be up in arms and find ANYTHING & EVERYTHING negative to say about Angelina in respect to her adopted children vs her biological child. GET REAL NOW…..do you actually think the tabs and some portions of the general public want her to ADOPT her next child???? Heck NO!! They want another “I see a baby bump”…. biological child….a boy perhaps so they can “effectively” push Maddox & Zahara right into the background…..and the proof we have is right here in these blogs! We are here discussing how Angelina doesn’t feel for Shiloh, and so many folks have their panties in a bunch because of it!!! Brad & Angelina knew from the moment they annonced they were pregnant that they had to control the images of their family and how they presented themselves in print & TV interviews.

Sure we got the People Mag cover of Brad & Angie w/ Shiloh and pics of each parent alone with her, but we also got the family picture of Brad holding Zahara & Angie holding Shiloh. Mommy & Daddy and their girls……think of what this picture will mean to both girls in the future…..they both are important to both parents. Take the recent family picture taken in Cambodia……I love the way it was posed as NEITHER parent was pictured ALONE, or TOGETHER with Shiloh (whoever was holding Shiloh in the picture was wisely cropped out), and IMHO, you will NEVER see Brad or Angelina pose for a picture like that because it will reinforce what the tabs want and they are smart enough to know this…..I’m glad Shiloh was in the middle of the picture, because if it was taken any other way, Zahara & Maddox would have been photoshopped right out of it!

Each interview that Angelina does will be picked apart. The lady is honest and has a lot to say….some folks just don’t want to hear it for their own reasons or agendas.

Bcuz that youtube stuff was not workin right, it’s just easier to write email.

HEY FOLKS watch this video,TAFTOUFA! has got mad skills and yet we can’t communicate on youtube go figure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8MX92q8A4w

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?????? Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Thanks for the full quote. People are going to mis-interpret AJ words to fit their opinion about her and nothing people can say will change their minds. All this false concern for Shiloh would be funny if it was not so pathetic. Anyone with two eyes can see that they love all their children. However, some people want to separate the adopted children from Shiloh when they are all one big family. It is so sad in this PR, public image world where people only want you to come across as the “girl next door”; the celebrity who could be your friend; or the star who is just like you; that people would hate on a woman who just trying live her life and do some good in the world.

Thank you Jared & Audrey!

I can’t help it, and don’t want to help it, I LOVE ZAHARA! She is such a testament to what a little love and care can do. The child would probably be long dead to be blunt about without what I believe was truly divine intervention/providence.

Her smile has me grinning ear to ear. I can just see her screaming at her daddy doing his dance, and I can see her now as Angelina describes her, “running the show.”

Love it.

jpf

hahaha my video!lol!by the way i cnt send u e-mail cuz i have got hotmail msn not yahoo ,god ,no comment :(((

Brad should give up smoking.

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Missouri Fan Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 11:59
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Hi! And happy belated new year! It’s only the 6th and people are already going off on something! I’m a BAMZS for life! I decided the word haters is no longer relevant. I like the twisters myself. Tried to catch up on the last thread, TOO LONG! So went to FF, i got on 3 posts and by the time I was done, without name calling just cold hard fact they stopped! So I’m tired today, if I get a little testy people please give me some slack!

Izzie…regarding the voting at Hello Magazine.. the Most Beautiful Women 2006 will be a month long deal so expect end of January & The Weekly Most Beautiful Man is ending Monday night January 9th or Tuesday morning January 10th EST

Jared maybe you should put the whole article up as opposed to select quotes.
It changes the context of the article whenanswers are singled out like this.

Sandy Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
ITA. I would be more concern as a fan of BP smoking those cigs than any mis-quote of AJ. Maybe we can all send him some good vibes and collective thoughts to give up the cigs. He has a lot to look forward to in life. Brad Pitt make this your New Year resolution to stop smoking. I know it is hard but you can do it Man. (smile).

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abc Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
Angie does not have blue eyes… they are green. is the guy blind?
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maybe her beauty made him very blind?

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orphan Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Great post

Please let us collectively appeal to JJ to put the right quote, if any of this is true indeed.

100 Original Curious Says: January 6th, 2007 at 12:19 pm

I DO wonder if this is a real interview. All the photos are clearly old, but, Elle isn’t a tabloid, so I’m somewhat confused.

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From what I understand it isn’t out of the norm for UK ELLE to utilize “stock” photo’s for it’s covers. I believe it to be a real interview.

jpf

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hello Says:
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Thats not what she said, so goodbye!

the theme for that paragraph is “her relationship with her children” and yet the answer does not really speak to the theme. Do you understand what I am saying?
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I know exactly what you’re saying.

Angelina gives an interview to Vogue which was an approved interview with new pics, etc and yet about three weeks later she mysteriously gives an interview to Elle UK that was never publicised? No new pictures and no pictures from the set or even with the writer? While in India they made a point of not speaking to any media until the end of the shoot. Angelina gave an interview to The New York Times and a press conference. Brad had to do his interview.

Some of the quotes are mysteriously similar to the things she said in Vogue, on CNN, and during her photocall except for the strange one’s like saying “I got knocked up” and people don’t think something is odd?

I this writer wrote this article and changed Angelina’s words around to fit a UK audience and at the same time took quotes from other interviews and put them out of context.

Here’s the thing…people have a desperate need to believe that Angelina feels differently about Shiloh. Good and Bad. They want to say see she protects her to much to see she never wanted her. The problem is Angelina has been consistant in her story and words until this alleged interview. Elle UK claims exclusive but they have nothing exclusive in it.

From what I understand it isn’t out of the norm for UK ELLE to utilize “stock” photo’s for it’s covers. I believe it to be a real interview.
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Yes, I agree, it’s the same people at JJB and Bradforums saying that the interview is fake, I really don’t get how Elle would make up a whole interview.

I really like Angelina too, but she is going out of her way to prove to people that she doesn’t love Shiloh more than Maddox or Zahara and, this statement just takes the cake. First of all, I don’t know why interviewers feel that they need to ask her how or if she felt different about her 3 children. Who else would they ask that question to? Secondly, why does Angelina feel she has to explain the difference between adopting or having a biological child? I am sorry, but that is how I perceive her many answers on this subject. Why can’t she just admit that her biological child was born from a loving relationship that she has with a wonderful man? Shiloh might not ever know what life could have been like for Zahara or Maddox, but neither will they. That is what is good about how she and Brad have built their family. Please Angie - stop with these answers. You are a loving person who has adopted 2 beautiful children and were able to have a beautiful biological child with a wonderful man. This makes you a lucky, lucky human being.

Why would Elle use photoshop to change the original color of Angie’s dress on the cover? Isn’t that cheating?

I lost all my respect for Elle.

As a mother of three children, none adopted, there is a tendency to feel a little more empathy for that child that might be more needy in some way. You love them all the same, but sometimes you give a little more to the needier child. But while doing that you have to remind yourself that the other children need also. You can’t assume that because their needs aren’t as visible that they don’t need. So it becomes more of a concious effort not to forget or to assume they are stronger, therefore less in need. I understood it the first time I read it. I think Angie is trying so hard to be honest, and yet not misspeak because of Brad and the family that, remember she said she worried because now she is not alone and only speaking for herself. It isn’t difficult. She got pregnant because she met a man she wanted to have a child with. My youngest daughter is the same as Angie, and for years she has said she would never get married or pregnant. She has met a wonderful man, now she is learning to cook, talking about marriage, and getting pregnant. She models and never wanted to gain weight, etc. I told her when you find the right person all of that will fly out of the window. Same with Angie. Don’t analyze too closely. Some things are lost in translation, or at least from the mouth to the printed page. She loves all of children.

On giving birth to a child or adopting a child, I honestly did expect that there would be a different feeling. I was very concerned that there would be and I prepared for that. There was absolutely none. Other than sometimes I look at Shiloh and I see Brad—that’s sweet—I don’t feel any differently. That was a wonderful surprise. I was so happy to have Shiloh in Africa, that we could do that and for her to have a Namibian passport. She has that connection to another country and to her sister’s part of the world. I think that ties them together a little.

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You see. she obviously wasn’t talking about LOVE when she said she feels more for her adopted kids.

We will have to agree to disagree when it comes to Brad.

Why does Angelina use the word knock up … isn’t this vulgar?

I’m not dealing with all this superior judgement of Angelina Jolie’s words anymore. It’s anyones right to take it how they feel, but personally I find that if anyone is viewing this as some concrete evidence that she’s deficient as a mother to her biological child, then you are someone who hasn’t a clue ever of who Angelina is, and you really need to cease referring to yourself as a fan of hers. I hope no one ever decides to pull a Salem Witch hunt on you because you spoke honestly and others tried to turn that candor into something sorrid and ugly. Go and praise Britney Spears parenting skills, or how about checking out all those celeb’s that are so practiced in what they plan to say that they got the world believing their kids walk on water, and as parents so do they when if we had a chance to catch them off guard, we’d all be dialing 241-kids as fast as our fingers could push the numers down.

jpf

Can someone tell me the question that she was asked, because it will really explain the answer? In the Phillipine Inquirer they gave questions and answers so nothing was hidden. When they give answers without questions it can be very misleading.

139 just asking Says: January 6th, 2007 at 12:54 pm

Why does Angelina use the word knock up … isn’t this vulgar?

^^^^

It’s only vulgar if you choose it to be so. It’s slang, and nothing I haven’t used before “in perfectly polite company.”

jpf

Please God help these IGNORANT HATERS.

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just asking Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Why does Angelina use the word knock up … isn’t this vulgar?

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No, it is not, why should it be ??? What’s your problem ?

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:) Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 12:55 pm
Funny all the doubters are NEW POSTERS. Kinda weird seeing the subtle haters suddenly are posting here. These are Anustons fans love to do, when posting change your names & post as much as possible to prove a loud majority is against them when in fact it is the silent minority are doing it. Lastly, males names, influx of male names to prove males hate Angelina & loves Aniston. Yeah right! Whatever!

^^^^

Please lets not turn everyone who has issues with Angelina into a Jennifer Aniston fan. It just keeps the triangle up an running, and it’s simply not true. It;s like saying that I my dislike for JA must be based around AJ/BP, when the fact is I have never liked her.

jpf

Hmm..yeah I love this family and I am also disturbed by her comment about Shiloh. I thought it was just me who got the wrong idea. I also agree with whoever said she will be a daddy’s girl, but is this verified authentic? She seems to be trying tooo hard to make her family”blend” know what I mean?

aww…I fall in love with this video…Just to remember us how much they’re in love and what a beautiful family they make, and the kids are so cute…For those who didn’t see it yet : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mT3yHKj_-4&mode=related&search=
I hope you’ll enjoy :D

Thank you to whoever posted the whole article. I agree that we should all not jump to conclusions, but I also wish that Angie would tell any interviewer that they are stupid for asking her about the differences between Maddox, Zahara and Shiloh. That is about as stupid as Larry King asking her the difference between kissing Matt Damon and Brad Pitt.

Angelina has said in interviews that she loves all three of her kids. The world “Feel” (if indeed it was used and not just this tabloid’s interpretation) may be used in such a way that she means feels for their circumstances. She is right, Shiloh is a child of privilege. She most likely will never know what it is like to be starving, unloved and in a hopeless situation. Does this mean Angie doesn’t love her, value her and want her? Of course not. She probably looks at Mad and Z’s whole picture–they are from poor countries, they were not loved, hungry and lacked everything but the basics.
If she indeed made the comment, it is probably an unfortunate choice of words on her part or maybe the interviewer twisted the comments out of context.
You have only to look at her and Brad too to see the love in their eyes for all of their kids.

Long time lurker here…This time I felt I had to post. I can’t stop laughing at some of the people on here who can’t see out of the ordinary language being quoted by Angelina Jolie. Since when did Angie start speaking ghetto slang with “My baby’s daddy” ROTFL and “knocked up” Just because people who are fans and have followed them for years question the article doesn’t mean anything.

Angelina does not sound like Angelina in a lot of this interview specifically when speaking of the kids, her feelings for them and looking for a father for Maddox. All those things fly in the face of what she’s been saying for awhile now.

Elle UK is fashion magazine. It’s not Time or Newsweek, hell it ins’t even VF, Esquire or GQ. It’s on par with Glamour Magazine. Not the bastion of journalism. They could of easily just cut and pasted some of her recent quotes. Doesn’t mean the author wasn’t at her press conf in India. It’s just very, very odd

A UK publication printed a whole interview by Nicole Kidman which had alleged quotes about Angelina. Everyone said it had to be true and it was proven to be false. It happens

She’s talking about balancing the emotions of all her three kids and their needs which is fair. I disapprove of the interviewer asking her that question to put her in a spot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKMoSH5KEM0
Awww…

I’m not gonna get on a Kennedy train today, but Brad reminds me SO much of Robert and John in this pic it’s not funny.

http://www.justjared.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2007&mon=01&evt=brad_pitt_boat&pic=brad-pitt-boat-11.jpg

Also, Brad is his dad. Looking at his father “hair/body” I think it’s the side that Brad inherited most of his attributes from. His dad has a full head of thick hair and he’s in his late 60’s I think. Brad’s the tallest, but his dad is next followed by the brother (or at least from the photos I’ve seen). I’m so curious to see what he’s going to look like in 10yrs. I bet he won’t look that different. George Clooney on the otherhand lol.

jpf

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QQQQ Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 11:31 am
15
Just Jared Says: January 6th, 2007 at 11:20 am - He’s Brad old bodyguard, remember the balcony pics from Italy, he was there with Brad and also in 2005 when Angie was doing TGS he was in most of the pic

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Hmmm…wonder if Mickey got the old heave-ho after the 2 incidents in India? Or maybe Mickey only works in certain parts of the world? He DOES live in the UK, so maybe this side of the Atlantic ain’t his thing.

I think Brad is the one who might feel differently. You know. . . since Maddox was already older. probably why Angelina pays more attention to him.

Since a few of you like to talk about what that bozo Joe Scarborough has to say i thought i’d show you his ratings, or lack there of…

CABLE NEWS RACE
THURS, JAN 4, 2007

Channel - SHOW - # of VIEWERS

FOXNEWS - BillO’REILLY - 2,505,000
FNC - HANNITY/COLMES - 1,802,000
FNC - Shepard SMITH - 1,374,000
FNC - Brit HUME - 1,258,000
FNC - GRETA - 1,194,000
CNN - Larry KING - 1,014,000
CNN - Anderson COOPER - 835,000
CNN - Lou DOBBS - 814,000
CNNHN - Nancy GRACE - 676,000
MSNBC - Kieth OLBERMANN - 665,000
*MSNBC - Joe SCARBOROUGH - 648,000
CNN - Paula ZAHN - 643,000
MSNBC - Chris MATTHEWS - 424,000

Oh PLEASE. Of course you initIally feel more bonded with older kids, because you’ve had more time with them–they talk and interact and react. Babies are adorable but basically just mute little ciphers initially. Anyone who tries to make a big deal out of Angie’s comments knows nothing. There are more important things to worry about than the emotional well-being of the Jolie-Pitt kids–they are well-loved by both their parents and will turn out just fine.

lalaallalalalaalalalallllllalallalalalalallalalalalalaalallalalalallalalalalalalallalalalalalallala!

didn’t Angie say that everytime she see Shiloh, she sees Brad in her??? did’t Angie say that she loves Brad??? so i don’t understand why some people keep saying the same nonesense that she loves Mad and Zee more than Shiloh PLEASEEEE!!!!

There are lots of discussions going on in this family and they are trying to do what works best for their family. We should wish them the best.

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QQQQ Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 11:46 am
Angie to all the mofo’s

“People can think anything they want about me if it makes their time at the checkout counter go a little quicker. I’m all for killing time in the super market.”

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ROTFL. Amen, 4Q. For the record. I’m sick of all you lackwitted drones out there who think there’s only one meaning for the word “feel”. For your edification, courtesy of the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, here are the MANY, MANY, MANY meanings of the word “feel”. I’m even going to help you out and bold 2 meanings that have apparently never occured to you. And do please let someone intelligent here know if you don’t know what a VERB is and we’ll be happy to explain it to you.-

Main Entry: 1feel

Pronunciation: ‘fEl

Function: verb

Inflected Form(s): felt /’felt/; feel·ing

Etymology: Middle English felen, from Old English fElan; akin to Old High German fuolen to feel, Latin palpare to caress

transitive verb
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1 a : to handle or touch in order to examine, test, or explore some quality b : to perceive by a physical sensation coming from discrete end organs (as of the skin or muscles)

2 a : to undergo passive experience of b : to have one’s sensibilities markedly affected by

3 : to ascertain by cautious trial — usually used with out

4 a : to be aware of by instinct or inference b : BELIEVE, THINK

intransitive verb
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1 a : to receive or be able to receive a tactile sensation b : to search for something by using the sense of touch

2 a : to be conscious of an inward impression, state of mind, or physical condition b : to have a marked sentiment or opinion

3 : SEEM

4 : to have sympathy or pity

- feel like : to have an inclination for

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tabloids Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
There are lots of discussions going on in this family and they are trying to do what works best for their family. We should wish them the best.
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ITA. I loved it when Oprah said: “whenever a kid’s life is saved, the angels are singing”. Why find fault with what AJ said in a quoted interview, when we all know she is trying her best to give a good family to all her kids. I wish I could be half as good.
Talking about doing good, coalharbourqt, if you are lurking, talk to us a little bit about your friend volunteering for Doctors Without Borders, please.

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TAFTOUFA! Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
thats so boring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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you can add another subject if you wish, maybe people will answer it, pick out something someone is talking about that you like and reply to them. Me? I have tried to send you a message AGAIN on youtube see if you got it.

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sad Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 11:48 am
Sheri , I understand what you are saying, and perhaps she chose the wrong words, but I hope she keeps comments like that to herself, because she seems conflicted, I remember when I watch the cnn interview and she said there is no difference, and she was worried about how she would feel, and was prepared to defend mad and zee, and I could already forsee problems, I think Angie is an honest women, but i think she got pregnant not because she was desperate to have a biological baby, i think she did it because that is what Brad wanted, she did it for him, I remember reading in the past, that she didn’t want to have bio kids ,because she felt guilt because all the children that need a home(something like that) I think while Angie is honest, she needs to be more careful, and she did say in that interview that she sure aware that of shiloh needs, but I don’t know , God forbid Shiloh grows up and reads that, what will she think. As I said before, as much as I love angie , that comment should have been kept to herself, She look at and feel for all kids the same, Mad and Zee are also children of privlidge not just shiloh.

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What you wish Angie would do and what Angie herself wants to do are obviously two different things. As Angie said in the interview about not having a PR person:

“I don’t want to live in that world. I’ve seen too many people talk about themselves in the third person because they’ve formed an idea about their PUBLIC PERSONA, and don’t know who they are any more. And they’re careful about what they say. If I can’t be honest, then why are we talking here? Besides, I really don’t have anything to hide. I AM WHO I AM.”

Clearly she doesn’t give a rat’s ass if people misinterpret what she means or else she’s spend more time parsing out her answers instead of speaking from her heart. Personally I’m sick of celebs who don’t say what they mean and aren’t really the person they’re presenting to the public. People like Tom Cruise and his Bot Bot, Nicole Kidman and her faux-hubby, Wentworth Miller, Britney Spears, etc. They do one thing, say another and act like the public shouldn’t notice. At least Angie says what she means and lets the public think what they like. And THAT is refreshing.

You don’t have to like what she says or how she says, but I do think people should respect her candor and not nitpick everything she says looking for hidden meanings. We’ve all been guilty of it in the past, but when something is as obvious as the fact that the word “feel” has multiple meanings, you can use a little common sense to deduce WHICH is the correct meaning based on the context it’s used in, then it becomes painfully obvious that people want to believe the worst of her, whether they like her or not.

What a lot of fuss about nothing. Mothers, and I am one, do feel differently for each child. They love each of them, but it’s different for each also. Not MORE….just different.

I don’t believe this interview is exactly on the up and up because I have never heard Angie use slang in an interview such as “knocked up”. Being pregnant was such a meaningful time to her that she would never say she got knocked up.

I also believe they left out a word or two in the sentence about how she “feels” about her children. I do believe they left out “sympathy” or “empathy” for Mad and Zee.

She even clarifies it when she said Mad and Zee were STRANGERS to her because they were six months old when she adopted them. Shiloh was hers from conception. There were no feelings of being a stranger.

I do agree with the person who stated that they placed Shiloh in the middle of the cover shoot for that other magazine because I do believe editors would erase Mad and Zee from the family picture if they could. Too many people feel uncomfortable that their family consists of different races. It makes other’s racism against anyone of color seem even worse when you see these rich and powerful white people with children of color.

Racism must stop!

As a BAMZS fan, I see so many new people running Angie down for this statement that is not correct.

A real fan would understand what she meant.

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Isabelle II Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
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TAFTOUFA! Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
thats so boring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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you can add another subject if you wish, maybe people will answer it, pick out something someone is talking about that you like and reply to them. Me? I have tried to send you a message AGAIN on youtube see if you got it.
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cuz i dont want the fans to answer haters while they know what are their intentions and goals see what i mean :(!
by the way i dindnt get the youtube msg!dam*

If you really want to stop something evil, assign yourself to Perez Hilton’s site and stop the racism on Zahara!!!!!!!

Well just as I suspected the ignorance continues.This crap has been going on for 2 years now with no end in sight.Jan 7th will be 2 years since X and Brad split.BAMZS fan we just really need to ignore the haters.These people live to hate this couple and it’s sad!What I find even more sad is they have wasted 2 years of their life hating they will NEVER get back.So let’s ignore and forge ahead we have alot of things to look forward to, let the trolls marinate in their hate.

that’s no reason not to talk to someone, are you afraid they will misunderstand you? or you will misunderstand them? either way, it doesn’t matter becuz you are a true Angie fan and somehow that will shine through. This is a good place to try to get your point across, say how you first came to know of Angie, what qualities you admired about her that make you a fan. you have to try to learn communication in English, this place is good. No one knows who you are, no reason to be embarassed. Remember you have to practice for your trip to California! :P

You know, everytime Angie say something it time for class. And now that some of you have given them their homework, maybe they’ll go and study.

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Scorp Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Whether this interview and some of the comments in it are authentic we will never really know
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Sure, we’ll find out if it’s fake because if it causes enough problems for Angie, then she’s going to sue the pants off of Elle. Surely the reporter tape-recorded the interview? Isn’t that SOP when you’re dealing with exact quotes from famous people? Esepcially someone as outspoken and controversial as Angie? If her quotes are used out of context there’s nothing she can do about that. BUT…whether or not she actually said something? Yes, that she can do something about. If someone as inconsequential as Vince Vaughn can scare newspapers into issuing a retraction over a PHOTO…then someone with Angie’s clout can make Elle spin in circles to correct a false story. If a magazine made it seem like I didn’t love my 7 month old baby the same as my other children…you can bet your ass I’d sue them in a heartbeat and I’m sure Angie would, too.

oh man i knew this would happen as soon as she opened her mouth look at the pictures they say alot when shiloh was a new born you could see angelina felt alot for her in another picture in india she is holding shiloh protectivly somebody made a remark of why a bodyguard was holding Z in the last pictures the close up of shiloh thats angelina holding her, she always gets in trouble for talking i may not agree with her talking too much because i am naturaly shy and quiet and some times i dont andurstand what she means she has always been this way people who have followed her career know this, others will be looking to attack her saying she favors shiloh that has not happen so now they are attacking her saying she favors the other 2, i like all the children but i do have to admit shiloh would get the attention most people when the last pictures came out were not interested in mad and z they wanted to see shiloh most of the time is all about her and will ignore the other 2 people want angelina to favor or to admit she favors shiloh because she is bio and they can say she doesnt love the other 2, this did not happen so now they will say she loves madd and z more or doesnt love shiloh becuse she doesnt admit to playing favoritesif thsi were true she wouldnt iven hold her in pictures.

Do we celebrate tomorrow Jan 7, or do we wait to celebrate Z’s bday on Jan 8? Was it Jan 10 last year when AJ announced to the world her pregnancy?

Is it bad that I am not annoyed at all by the haters anymore or what they choose to misinterpret purposely? Let them say what they want.

The haters made erroneous remarks when they adopted Z, when they had Shiloh in Namibia, when Brad said they weren’t getting married anytime soon, when they were in India….and so on.

They just move on from one thing to another ….they don’t want to undestand what the fans have to say. They have made up their minds. Let them think what they want to. The hate only eats them up inside. They are hurting themselves the most by spending so much time accusing others and hating on people they don’t know and will never know.

Brad and Angelina are obviously happy with their kids so they are rubber and the haters are glue.

Also I almost forgot my husband reminded me of something magazine articles are sometimes tweaked(one of his friends used to be a editor)they are not above switching a word here or there.So I for one will not be taking the article as the gospel.

I have a question, do you think Brad’s people since angie does not have a publicist scan boards such as JJ and read what people are writing and thinking about? And if they do if they would tell Brad and or Angie some of the stuff?

I know, I know enough with the poll already but I just want to say…………

http://www.hellomagazine.com/vote/mostattractiveman/index.html

VOTE FOR BRAD!!! Ladies, thank you.

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bdj Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Sandy Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
ITA. I would be more concern as a fan of BP smoking those cigs than any mis-quote of AJ. Maybe we can all send him some good vibes and collective thoughts to give up the cigs. He has a lot to look forward to in life. Brad Pitt make this your New Year resolution to stop smoking. I know it is hard but you can do it Man. (smile).

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I think I’m one of the few fans who doesn’t really have a problem with Brad smoking. Yeah, it’d be nice if he quit, but it’s no big deal if he doesn’t. He doesn’t smoke as much as he used to and that’s obvious because most of the time these days you don’t see him with a ciggie in his hand. At one time Brad described himself as “a professional smoker” and probably smoked 2 packs a day. BUT…being in a bad marriage with a chain smoker will do that to a person. He needs to quit for his health and his kids, but I’ve been around smokers my whole life…and there are some people, who’ve tried just about everything, and just can’t completely kick the habit. There’s no shame in that.

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Passing Through Says: January 6th, 2007 at 2:27 pm - it was the guy who did Brad’s ESQ “interview”, he had interviewed Angie before and he said her eyes were blue…..

“Since hooking up with Angie—whose eyes, by the way, are also blue, though perhaps a deeper and more mysterious shade, his being more earnest, a lazulite or sky blue—he has taken up flying.”

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TAFTOUFA! Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 2:29 pm

At first, maybe. but you will probably move to an area where you already have friends or family and they make you feel a connection for being there. Then you go to school, make new friends and that will be it! Remember you said you don’t have a boyfriend right now? well that will make it very much easier if you don’t have to leave your love behind. I hope you like the cold bcuz there’s a LOT of it in Canada. and remember, where ever you go, there you are :lol:

Re: 4Q, Sheri and Tabloid:
totally agree but also felt compelled to add that the major difference between Shiloh and Zee and Mad is that factually they are adopted and as much as a parent loves equally their adopted child as much as their biologically born child…adopted children always wonder why their biological parents abandoned them…it is an enormous emotional turmoil
for them as they become older even when they know their adopted parents love them. Adoptive parents also go through this process with their adoptive child. Shiloh will not be in the same position.
I agree with Sheri Re: the empathy. An adoptive parent will always wonder what would have happened to this child if I hadn’t adopted them…and what AJ was probably referring to was that Shiloh will never have those same thoughts in her mind. #163 Tabloid hit it on the nose as well, AJ is referring to their current and future needs which is based on their history prior to being adopted.

Many of you who criticize AJ for those remarks are confusing what she said with anything to do with “love”…her comments are specific to a particular history of her adopted children versus her biological child eg. comments “Madd and Zee because they’re survivors, they came through so much. In some way they’re strangers because they had this life before me. Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born, I have less inclination to feel for her.” Her reference for the words “less
inclination to feel for her” is
beause Shiloh is not a “survivor” and she is not a “stranger and her reference
“because they had this life before me” does not have
any bearing on the status of
“her love” for her children. “Feel” is an empathic
response, not a “love” response.
The critics of her comment are not reading her words carefully or don’t understand the intent.
…don’t interpret with your
personal emotions because they will get you confused
but understand how her words were used from her point of view which is the only view that counts. From an objective viewpoint, her comments make good sense and are very sophisticated.

ohhhh Zees soo cute on the beach! Did angie really say that??

Oprah Loves Rich White People

It seems Oprah still has a soft spot for white kids. While her new South African school for girls grabbed headlines, Oprah has also been lending a helping hand to some ultra-white establishments. According to FOX News, Winfrey gave $1 million to Miss Porter’s, an exclusive finishing school in Connecticut, where she sent her nieces. Annual tuition is $38,000, and graduates include Jackie Kennedy, the Vanderbilts and the Rockefellers. The talk show queen has also contributed to Chicago’s Lake Shore Academy, whose student body is pretty much entirely white.

http://www.tmz.com/

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Passing Through Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
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Isabelle II Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 1:03 pm
the other thread went on so nicely untill this topic came up, now people are climbing up from under a rock to criticize and disect every word.

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They’re acting like this is CSI or something.

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Now THAT is funny!!!

jared, will you please post the statement in the correct context and not out of context because the whole interview doesn’t do it justice. thanxs!

Oprah Loves Rich White People
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Why did they feel the need to go there?

And please people stop being so judgemental on that Elle Interview. You guys are not perfect yourselves. You should not twist someone’s words and judge them so harshly. Fan or not fan you have no right and are behaving like children. Get a life.

Great job Jared & Audrey. Thanks! I would not even discuss about their parenting skills & loving their children. I see Angelina Jolie & Brad Pitt with their beloved children is good indication already of how loving parents these two are. No question about it. Darn, they’re even much better than most parents out there. So why nag about it. I think the haters are doing the questioning & making it a bigger deal out of this.

I wonder how Brad stays so fit. He looks like a kid. Tom Cruise has the forty year old paunch, Brad does not.

I meant many fresh interviews.

bye isabelle!

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First and Last Post Says:
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BRAVO! If they don’t get it after what you said, they never will. I had to go away for awhile today, some of these people gave me a headache! Now I’m going to do what I hadn’t had the chance to do with out explaining a comment taken the wrong way. Enjoy the pictures!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope she was misquoted.. doesn”t quite sound right to me..

Oh oh — after all the discussions and explanations, here comes marla z with her typical hate comment. Why oh why do these fanistons come here and always try to ruin the thread. Marla, run along to dlisted and pHilton, or better yet, FF. WE DON’T WANT YOU HERE!!!

As a mother, I think she is discovering motherhood, a very special motherhood of having tow adopted children from different culture AND a biological new born. That’s more than I could imagine I can do myself with two kids. She is as usual, blatantly honest to herself and not afraid to express herself at the moment she is feeling something, which is disarming and frightening to more hypocritical and dishonest people. Anyway, Jolie is as polar opposite to the constantly lying MISS Aniston in every way. A breath of very, very fresh air for Brad. Miss Aniston can’t be honest to anybody, not even to herself, perhaps to her own TRUE sexuality.

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The real lou Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Well just as I suspected the ignorance continues.This **** has been going on for 2 years now with no end in sight.Jan 7th will be 2 years since X and Brad split.

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Hey Lou - something just occured to me as I read your post…is it fate or what that ZEE WAS BORN THE DAY AFTER BRAD AND X SPLIT UP?

As a fan of AJ I am saddened by her comments. Not because I think she loves Shiloh less (although I did have some thought on that while she was pregnant) but because she is looking at Zee and Mad in what COULD HAVE happened to them. The fact is, is that it did not happen therefore there should be no difference in how she feels or making herself feel one way or the other.
This is no fault of hers of course, she is young and new to this. So I can rationalize her thought processes. I think her and Brad make a wonderful couple and I hope with his relaxed ways he can teach her how to relax as well, including not thinking of the woulda coulda shoulda stuff and just think of the here and now.
On a side note, those pics of Zee are awesome. They capture her at ease and smiling, something that one does not always get to see with Zee.

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Clau Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
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Thanks, Read #223 from first and last post, summed it up wonderfully! FF “people” go back to your caves please, your negativity is not need or appreciated!

I want to hear more from Brad. When is he going to do an interview or am I missing something? Love this FAMILY!

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QQQQ Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
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Passing Through Says: January 6th, 2007 at 2:27 pm - it was the guy who did Brad’s ESQ “interview”, he had interviewed Angie before and he said her eyes were blue…..

“Since hooking up with Angie—whose eyes, by the way, are also blue, though perhaps a deeper and more mysterious shade, his being more earnest, a lazulite or sky blue—he has taken up flying.”

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Thanks 4Q! I was thinking it was during the TGS stuff, but…as long as I’m not completely losing my mind…it’s all good..

Missouri Fan=Cliniqua

Rose: Angelina’s conclusion is that there’s no difference. She said I don’t ignore Shiloh’s needs because, I think the other two are more vulnerable. If you published that conclusion alone, people will say she said she favoured Shi more than the other two. If they published the first part alone people will say she favored her older two more than Shi. Her conclusion is that she draws a line in treating all of them very well and equally.

Everyone have a great day! Have to run a few errands, I have a feeling it’s going to take quite a bit of time to catch up when I get back! lol BAMZS folks, try and find sometime to enjoy the wonderful pics, I haven’t been able to yet due to the influx of negative peeps, sorry can’t just let them spew their hatred. I love this glorious family!

Every time Angelina opens her mouth, she reveals more of who she truly is. We already know she interfered in someone’s marriage, now we see her truly sick views on parenting. She is a racist for sure. It is more obvious to the world now, more than ever, that Shiloh’s entire purpose was simply to “close the deal” with her adulterous lover.

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Zoe Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 3:31 pm

Missouri Fan=Cliniqua

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Zoe = Wrong

A true dichotomy here at JJ. First you have an eloquent, thoughtful and educated response from F and L Post:

>

And then you have this comment from an obvious half-wit:

(MARLA Z Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pm

as a mother I fel embarresd for her,, she sounds like a complete idiot..)

Just too funny. Such an intellectual difference in the fan base….Poor X.

MARLA Z Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 3:10 pm

as a mother I fel embarresd for her,, she sounds like a complete idiot..
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Um, I sure hope you’re not the one teaching your children how to spell.

Westwood, venture West, would ya.

I don’t think pics of Zahara should be posted. She’s not with either of her parents. My opinion is that kids should be all sorts of off limits when they’re not with their parents. The parents that are famous.

It is January 7th right?? And this is a new thread no?? Well I suppose it is…
Phewww!! For a moment I though I never went to bed last night and a new day has come. :lol:

I’m not even touching the discussion about the interv…. Anyway I just hate to repeat my self. Some people are inclined to think the worst about a person and always look at the negative sight of the coin. Nothing will change that. I’m just glad that I’m able to read all this great posts here. Thank you all for making this site so remarkable.

BRB

Passing Thorough,Yes Zahara’s B-day is the day after X and Brad split up.Well Actually Jan 7th was the day it was announced ,they were split-up before that.Ignore Marla Z.I still remember her vile post from the past,remember the ST John pictures the one with the black hat?Marla Z wrote some of the most vile comments about Angelina and her childern.What I find funny Marla Z is a middle age woman with a grown son,scary!You would expect more maturity from her, but this is what hate does clouds peoples judgement.

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Zoe Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 3:31 pm

Missouri Fan=Cliniqua
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What?? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!! :lol:

thank you passing through. I did not see that.

Passing Through you are on fire. I love your responses to critics. So concise, but deadly. I am glad that BP has cut back on smoking.
I would rather hear from someone like AJ who is honest to a fault then the PR drivel; going on talk shows to refute rumors; and going to tabs to refute tab stories that a lot of celebrities do. BP and AJ kept their heads up high even when tabs, people, blogs and mainstream media were circulating the same old nasty lies/rumors. Their charitable contributions, their relationship, and their dedication to their art have been extensively examined. It is amazing how people are fascinated with one family. Thanks for the full scans of the Article Just Jared.

Off-topic

Stardust, I don’t know if you’re here but I was lurking around on a KO board where most of the members, much like us, aren’t too fond of Scarborough but they did commend him last Thursday night. Now I only watch when Arianna Huffington or Bill Maher are on, after they’re done I usually turn the channel. So, I went to MSNBC’s site to find out if they were right to commend him on laying into…O’Reilly! I had to see it for myself and sure enough..he did! He even challenged him to a debate! Not only that he yelled at one of his guests that d*ck Bob Kohn who loves accusing every news organization of being liberal yet he puts on his kitten gloves when it comes Fox News. Also, he writes for a conservative online publication too!

Anyway, the other day I said for every 5 idiotic comments that Tweety says there’s 1 that’s a keeper. Well in the case of Scarborough it’s 1 for every fifteen because of his BAMZS bashing and his willingness to have that hypocritical, homophobic, and overall bigot b*tch Dr. Laura on his show. After seeing him just rip O’Reilly I was reminded why I’d prefer him over Tucker :lol:

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Westwood Says

please do tell us why you are here ? If You don’t like Brad or Angelina, why are you here? Why do you care?

That was suppose to be ” also” not “always”…

279 Westwood Says: January 6th, 2007 at 3:52 pm

No, I’m not ” Vag”, and for the record, I couldn’t care less about Brad. I didn’t like him before and I don’t like him now. Angelina is the one who just astounds me with her ignorance and racism. You can disagree with me, and I can disagree with you. Doesn’t really matter, that’s just my opinion, and the opinion of an awful lot of sane people. This is a woman who has told the world she chooses kids based on “race” and feels more for the adopted kids than her own? I really think she is seriously mentallly screwed up. She keeps talking, and every time she opens her mouth it gets worse.

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“This is a woman who has told the world she chooses kids based on “race” and feels more for the adopted kids than her own?”

People who come to the conclusions you’ve come to are basically people who went in looking for something to bend and twist to your purposes. You offer nothing to the debate because you know you have no argument, and you have no argument because you’d rather walk your ass around with the above opinion then investigate further. You don’t like her in general and so why not just say that instead of trying to bullshit it away with some excuse that ’s built on sand?

jpf

Yes, I already thanked the person for providing the link. I know that adoption papers are private, but I had not heard anything either.
Of course, I don’t read everything on them so I was just curious if anyone had heard. And what better place to ask then on here, lol.

Remember someone made a reference on a different thread about X having the worst fan’s and that K-fed even had better fan’s.I’m begining to agree with that statement.How can people not be able to comprehend what they read?I guess that’s why they like tabloids,they may be lies but aleast the tabs “break it down” to them like a six year old so the knuckleheads can understand.

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Original jpf Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pm
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Westwood aka “Vag” isn’t going to listen, she spews hatred. The things she has said about the children on FF are awful. I really need to do errands but this is the one hater that makes my blood boil, she believes in voodoo and well you don’t want to know.

I have maintained ever since Jolie got with Brad that she was indeed looking for a man. She should stop denying it and be truthful with herself. When she made public quoted comments that if she found a man who would be a good father, she would have to marry him (not exact, but you get the point), Jolie was dropping hints people. I said to myself then that if Brad got a whiff of that, he would know that that is what he would have to be for Jolie to find him acceptable. It was like getting the green light. So, he naturally started getting closer to Maddox and spending time with him so that the boy would begin calling him daddy. Come on you fans. It is so obvious that Jolie did not want to raise Maddox alone. Maddox was her first priority and she wanted the best for him. Throwing “marriage” in there was a way to get Brad’s hopes up. Now that she has him, she doesn’t want to do it. She’s not a bad person, but from this situation, I think she also goes after what she wants. This whole relationship did not just pop up one day. I don’t believe her when she says she didn’t know much about Brad’s situation, etc. I think she knew, but we’ll never hear that from her.

294
I love Jolie as an actress, but this is too good Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
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Thats your opinion, so?

294
I love Jolie as an actress, but this is too good Says:
Whatever!!!! Conspiracies theories are a dime a dozen in the land of Blogs. Whatever gets you through the day, Peace.

Rose says:
Adoption proceedings are sealed/closed/confidential, that means there is no public record. Brad said in an interview in Newsweek in June 2006 that the adoption was finalized and he is Mad and Z’s legal father. Angelina has also said that “she and Brad are legally bound to the children”. Adoption can take 3-6 months to a year depending on the circumstances and the individual state in the US. The date of the original filing of the adoption petition is not known, all that was made public was the name change petition which was made as part of the overall adoption proceedings, and public notice of a name change must be made.

Westwood says:
Every word you wrote shows how stupid you are. Shiloh is a product of the love between Angelina and Brad. Angelina has now said that they plan to have other biological children as well as adopt. No one with their means need have a child if they do not want to. If you bothered to read all the article, Angelina said “she is conscious that she does not ignore Shiloh’s needs, just because she feels the other two are more vulnerable”. WHERE DOES THIS SAY SHE DOES NOT LOVE SHILOH? DOES SHE NOT SAY THAT SHE HAS AN AWARENESS THAT SHE MUST ENSURE THAT SHILOH’S NEEDS ARE MET AS WELL AS MAD’S AND Z’S? WHERE DOES SHE SAY THAT SHE DOES NOT LOVE SHILOH AS MUCH AS SHE LOVES MAD AND Z? She is pointing out the truth that Mad and Z, no matter the best efforts made by Angelina and Brad, will face difficulties in their lives that Shiloh will not. Brad has said that he cannot live without Mad and Z, that they are his blood as much as Shiloh. THEY BOTH LOVE ALL THREE CHILDREN, BUT THEY CANNOT IGNORE THE REALITY THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU EXIST IN THIS WORLD.

HOW COULD YOU EVEN INTERPRET HER WORDS AS NOT LOVING SHILOH? ONLY BECAUSE YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE JUDGEMENTAL FOLKS WHO BELEVES THAT YOU KNOW ALL, WHEN IN REALITY YOU KNOW NOTHING. YOU APPEAR DESPERATE TO FIND FAULT WITH ANGELINA, YOUR DISLIKE OF HER IS SO CLEAR,SO YOU TWIST HER WORDS TO FIND SOMETHING, ANYTHING TO SUPPORT YOUR BELIEFS. YOU WOULD MAKE A GOOD RECRUIT FOR A CULT WITH YOUR MINDLESSNESS ACCEPTANCE OF LIES.

The FF’rs are here in full force or Vag is doing her multi name posts. They call her on it at FF also, everything they are saying is quoted from Vag.

294
I love Jolie as an actress, but this is too good Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 4:10 pm

What can I say, you have hit the nail on the head. You are a very realistic person and i admire that.

Home> Mumbai> Bombay Yatra Sunday , January 07, 2007

Page One | News | Talk | All Headlines

BOMBAY YATRA

Meeting Brad and Angelina

Paroma Mukherjee

It’s not easy to keep up with a job that most people think is exciting and good-looking. So getting chosen for a photography workshop in Cambodia two months ago put me under more pressure to be a cool photojournalist. My work had to be more exciting than trying to manage an exclusive of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie at the Gateway of India back home. At that point of time, my only Cambodian connection was knowledge of Brangelina’s adopted child Maddox.

After spending two days guarding the Gateway and hoping that the star couple would grace the media outside with their presence, I made a rather meek exit without any photographs.

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Siem Reap airport was like a little resort, with scores of people lined up for visas on arrival to the Kingdom of Cambodia. My workshop demanded that I explore the city on my own; finally doing justice to my profession and the image that went with it. So I rented a bicycle for a dollar a day (everything in Siem Reap can be managed for a dollar) and set out to look for a story that I could tell through my photographs.

Then in a quaint little lane parallel to where our edit sessions and daily discussions were held, I quietly cycled into a house with an odd signboard. Blind people administering a Japanese Shiatsu massage caught my attention immediately. I had found my story for the workshop and I was glad that it was not a sob story about the survivors of the war or the struggling economy of the country.

As I entered their home armed with a language that Cambodia was still only learning, Chea Leap (later my main protagonist) grabbed my arm mistaking me to be a tired, foreign tourist looking for a massage. It scared the daylights out of me since I am rather allergic to unknown human touch. Suddenly, I was in the middle of seven blind people who gave massages for a living, knew very broken English and were amused at my proposition of photographing them for two days at a stretch.

The only person with vision in the house was Chea Leap’s little daughter with her tiny dog on a leash. I photographed the family, initially from a distance and then from close quarters after they had finally understood that I didn’t want a massage even on the third day.

At the posh Carnets D’Asie gallery, after a photo edit session on the last day, I bumped into this good- looking guy with a white shirt, blue jeans, scarf around his head and unassuming, cool demeanor. He could pass off as a version of Brad Pitt, I thought, perhaps my desperation taking a toll on me from my misadventures at the Gateway. And then I looked again at the stunning woman behind him handling a tiny kid on her shoulders. My jaws, along with fifteen others’, dropped to the ground. It was Pitt and Jolie exploring the place. One of my tutors, Roland Neveu presented them with a book of his photographs of Cambodia through its war-ridden years. They spoke casually and hardly drew any attention, like any other couple on a holiday. I managed to stare at them for a ridiculous 20 minutes, something my Gateway colleagues would have killed for, and still did not manage to photograph them as there were strict instructions from the gallery to respect their privacy.

I couldn’t believe that I had them so easy in a country that I least expected this from. From the beautiful ruins of the Angkor temples to an interesting photo study of the independent blind and finally Hollywood’s most celebrated couple, Cambodia had won over me completely. But I still left the Killing Fields without a massage and with a shaken frame of Brangelina taken on the sly that is the exclusive that never was.

http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=216442

If I was Jen A and read the crap my so-called fan’s wrote,I would be depressed.Not a intelligent statement from ANY OF THEM.All they know how to do is insult and name call.What kind of adult insults small childern?Y’all need to let it go already and move on,Brad ain’t going back to Jen.Do ypu people really think Brad and Jen just woke up in Jan of 2005 and said let’s split up,please this marriage was over in late 2003.Instead of obsessing over the Elle interview go and read Jen and Brad’s interviews from 2003-2005 the writing was on the wall!

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BRAD Pitt and Angelina Jolie have cast aside their Third World lifestyle for some pricey vacation digs in the Virgin Islands. Spies at the Caneel Bay resort tell The Post’s Braden Keil that Brangelina have been living the high life with their kids and nannies in a five-bedroom, $8,000-a-night beachfront villa, formerly the private “cottage” of Laurance Rockefeller, who developed the 170-acre Caribbean playground in the 1950s. “They showed up with 97 pieces of luggage and a whole entourage,” gushed an incredulous witness. Pitt and Jolie have been spotted having candlelit dinners nightly on their veranda.

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/pagesix_u.htm

294
I love Jolie as an actress, but this is too good Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 4:10 pm

295
So she has issues……. Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pm
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At least you could have posted under the same moniker.. :lol:

292 Sheri Says: January 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pm

re: 286 Original jpf Says: January 6th, 2007 at 4:00 pm

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Westwood aka “Vag” isn’t going to listen, she spews hatred. The things she has said about the children on FF are awful. I really need to do errands but this is the one hater that makes my blood boil, she believes in voodoo and well you don’t want to know.

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Please understand that I’m not attempting to sound snippy with you here, but I don’t know who it is and to be honest, I really don’t care. Yeah I remember a windbag from ages ago with some silly sense of importance and a even sillier long dumb name, and if it’s her/him here, whatever, my post was for anyone with the same mindset as the person whose idiocy and ignorance I was addressing.

jpf

310 Anna Says: January 6th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
PAGE SIX:

“Pitt and Jolie have been spotted having candlelit dinners nightly on their veranda.”

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/pagesix_u.htm

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That’s the only part I give a darn about lol. If true, that’s wonderful!

jpf

Original jpf
Hold your roll already! Damn, you’re taking her way to literally. If you’re familiar with Angelina Jolie at all, you know part of her being so honest and speaking frank, is that she sometimes has to be deciphered. She’s not deliberately speaking in some code language, but she is winging it; off the cuff and it’s wonderful. She’s saying simply that Shiloh came to this world without the issues that may face Madd/Zahara. It doesn’t matter that they’re the children of Jolie-Pitt, they are still of color, they are still adopted, and they are still part of a world that if you haven’t noticed was willing to pay millions of dollars to see photographs of their blond, blue eyed sister. Angelina is saying she’s aware of the overcompensation of her other children she and Brad probably do, and how it may affect Shiloh, and to make sure that never assume that because Shiloh by virtue of birth won’t be faced with her own set of problems. You can’t possibly believe she isn’t as loved are adored by her parents, unless of course that’s what you want to believe.
jpf

bdj
I think you read what you wanted to in the interview, mainly negativity. AJ feels for children born in these 3rd world horrors. Maddox and Zahara came from such places. Shiloh is a beloved child but she is a child born of two wealthy parents and will be a child of privilege. If BP and AJ had not adopted Mad and Zahara then more than likely they would have died (particularly Zahara) or born a life of servitude or abuse. Therefore she feels compassion for them and a sense of “if not for the grace of God” these children will not have survived. There are many people in Hollywood that want the perfect blue-eyed blonde children. It takes a special couple of BP and AJ compassion and magnitude to look beyond the WASP superficial and adopt children of color. I admire them for doing so. Maddox, Zahara and Shiloh are greatly loved. Maddox and Zahara are truly blessed to have been adopted by BP and AJ.

ntt Says:
January 5th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Feeling compassionate=Feeling sorry for. Why would she feel sorry for Shiloh? As any mom, looking at her newborn baby, she probably was filled with love, joy and pride, not compassion. Remember the People article on the birth of S? I have the issue on my lap right now, I will copy some of the things James Haven said. “There’s a genuine love I was overwhelmed with”. “I walked in the room and it was so overwhelming I had to walk out”, Haven tells People of seeing his sister, proud dad BP and brand new-niece together post delivery. “To see the father, mother, daughter–it was such a beautiful image that it overtook me.”
OK, have to go now.

Montserrat Says:
January 5th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
What she is saying is that she feels for their situation more. Not that she loved Shiloh less than Madd and Zee but that she is concerned for them in the larger scheme of things, their position in the family etc. Shiloh, by blood has two sets of grand-parents, aunt and uncles that will feel a natural pull for her. Shiloh, (which is why she qualifies her statement) will never lack an identity. The other children will. Angie recognizes that Shiloh occupies a very special status based on the biological bond she shares with her mother and father. The media and everyone else has already started to place her above the other children. It would be negligent of Angie not to be conscious of their special situation. That’s what she means.
Angie’s situation reminds me of Crown Princess Mette-Marit of Norway - who has a son who is not the biological son of her husband, The Crown Prince ,and two royal children. Her first son is not royal born and at times he cannot be included in some royal events, in much the same way as her other two children. The media and people in general often draw a distinction between the children and seem more accepting of the royal children than her non royal child. For their part, The Crown Prince and Princess seemed to be mindful of the situation (like Angie) and seem to have a special understanding of Marius’s (that’s the child’s name) situation. It does not mean they do not love the other children, it means they know that people will not always accept Marius so they try to give him special understandi

lylian Says:.
First: Angelina used the word “feel” for her biological child, not necessarily love her biological child. “Feel” is a very general word. FITR, I don’t know whether you have children but many parents do acknowledge that they feel differently for their children. Feel could mean, feeling more guilty, more anxious, more resentful, what ever. It is a very general and neutral word. Therefore, it is advisable not to read that word as meaning, feel love. And feeling more guilty, feeling more anxious what ever, is going to affect how you treat each child. Best to acknowledge it and deal with it.
Second: I strongly believe almost all parents feel differently for each of your own biological children, depending on the circumstances each was born. I strongly believe to feel differently about each child is absolutely natural and nothing to be ashamed about.
For example, many parents FEEL more anxious with their first child then they are with the second or third child. If one of their children was seriously ill when that child was an infant and more delicate healthwise, then they had different anxiety levels for that child.
Other parents feel more guilt with one child then another. For example, a very dear friend told me that she hadn’t planned on having a 3rd child and he was an accident. She had initially resented having him, was angry with her husband, cried when she discovered she was pregnant. This then affected her feelings about her 3rd child, she felt guilty, felt a conscious desire to over compensate with her 3rd child because she hadn’t initially wanted him. Fortunately, as a conscious parent, she worked through her feelings of guilt, anger and love for her 3rd child and they have a wonderful relationship. Was my friend f*ed up?? Absolutely not. She’s one of the most sane and well balanced human beings I know. That’s why she was (a) conscious of how she felt, (b) conscious of how she should act and (c) took conscious steps to process her feelings so that she did not over compensate with the youngest one, or swing the other way and under compensate. Was her child F*ed up? Well, from what I see, he is a happy and secure child and he is now 10. Did she need a couple of years to work through all the guilt etc.? Yes. But no one was f*cked up.
Another mother I know had a first child who was unplanned when she was still in full swing in her career. She quit work to raise the child, experienced some resentment, worked through those. Then subsequently, tried for a second child, suffered a couple of miscarriages before carrying the second child to full term. Did she have different feelings about the second baby to the first. YES. With the second child, she understood much more fully the miracle of having a baby, perfectly formed and healthy. She was much more joyful about having the second child then the first. Does she love one more then the other?? NO. Did she feel differently initially about each child. YES. Is she f*cked up bad mother. NO. She is a wonderful mother, dealing with her feelings consciously and honestly. And her relationship with her elder daughter is certainly a happy one.
Third: I believe it is not f*cked up to have to consciously remind yourself to feel and treat your children equally. It isn’t f*cked up to feel differently for your children. What is F* up is that you dishonest and don’t acknowledge that you have different feelings for each child. What is F*cked up is when you don’t consciously and honestly deal with your different feelings and act them out, all the while saying you feel exactly the same. Having grown up in a family where my father did feel differently for each of his children, my siblings and I can tell you it wasn’t that he felt differently but that he insisted that he felt exactly the same, even though his actions spoke differently that was F* up. It was the dishonesty. Because that’s when you feel, as a child, that its your fault. Luckily, as adults, my siblings and I were able to heal each other, confront my father and even more healingly, hear him apologise to each of us. Don’t get me wrong, my siblings and I never ever felt unloved by my father, never felt for a moment that he would not have given his life for anyone of us. But I might add, I never felt more loved by him and never loved him more then when he acknowledged to me, his mistakes.
So, I think Angelina is as sane and as conscious and as UNF*cked up a mother as they come. She has different feelings, but she wants to love them the same. And she is consciously and honestly acknowledging and dealing with those feelings. From what I’ve seen of real life examples, I’m pretty sure Angelina and her children will be have healthy loving relationships with each other.

gitane Says:
January 5th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
why is this a big deal? for months people have been implying that angie and brad treat shiloh differently as if she were more precious than their other children. when that didn’t work, they decided that angie and brad didn’t love shiloh as much as zee and madd because they didn’t take her out. now, here you go, angie basically says she’s not inclined to coddle or prefer shiloh over her other children because that degree of worry she has for them is different. zee and madd are more fragile and precious to angie because of the circumstances under which she found them–circumstances which she could not control and which she took great effort and love to reverse. shiloh was born with a diamond binkie waiting for her, privileged from the moment of conception. zee and madd were not. that doesn’t mean that shiloh is unloved or unwanted or that angie tosses her aside if zee starts pouting. or that madd will get a second helping while shiloh starves. it’s a simple feeling/perception that shiloh is stronger because she never experienced the sickness and suffering that madd & zee did as infants. she’s never been abandoned/orphaned, so that measure of compassion that angie feels in addition to parental love is less defined where shiloh is concerned.

Montserrat Says:
January 5th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
What she is saying is that she feels for their situation more. Not that she loved Shiloh less than Madd and Zee but that she is concerned for them in the larger scheme of things, their position in the family etc. Shiloh, by blood has two sets of grand-parents, aunt and uncles that will feel a natural pull for her. Shiloh, (which is why she qualifies her statement) will never lack an identity. The other children will. Angie recognizes that Shiloh occupies a very special status based on the biological bond she shares with her mother and father. The media and everyone else has already started to place her above the other children. It would be negligent of Angie not to be conscious of their special situation. That’s what she means.

Sweetpea Says:
January 5th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
I had to come out of lurking mode for this…
Boy it’s really disgusting to read these f***** up comments about Angelina loving Mad and Z more than Shiloh! Where the h*** did those interpretations come from? It is obvious from everything that Angelina has said that she loves all her children equally. Even if she hadn’t said a word, it’s OBVIOUS that she loves Mad and Z by the pictures that we’ve seen of them together. It’s OBVIOUS that she loves Shiloh because she’s HERE. Before Brad, Angelina said she was not going to have biological children. She starts a relationship with Brad and BAM she’s having his baby. Let’s face it, these days no woman has to carry and give birth to a child she doesn’t want. She WANTED to have Brad’s child. Shiloh is an expression of THEIR LOVE and I’m sure she holds a special place in Angelina’s heart just like her other children.
Mad and Z came from extremely adverse situations and she knows how lucky she is to have them. Is it a surprise that she ‘feels’ more for Mad and Z? Based on how those 2 children, especially Z, are attacked on some of these blogs, she does have to make sure they get extra attention. Hell, I can’t wait until the magazines and tabloids stop pointing out that they’re adopted. Mad and Z are Brad’s and Angelina’s children PERIOD. I know there are BA fans that adore Mad and Z, but there are also a lot of people out there that don’t. They only want to see and acknowledge Shiloh as a Jolie-Pitt. Of course it’s those people that get pissed off when it doesn’t seem like the BA hold Shiloh above Mad and Z like they do.
I wonder if the comments that Angelina made would be interpretted so f* up had she adopted 2 other who looked like her? How dare this famous, beautiful, rich White couple love those brown children as much as their own blonde haired, blue eyed daughter…

kk1 Says:
January 5th, 2007 at 11:51 pm
Sweetpea Says:
January 5th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
THANK YOU. ITA. Angelina and Brad are aware of the difference in perception held by many people that Mad and Z are not their real children, that both children are “persons of color”, and that many see Shiloh as their only “real” child. This is why the emphasis on using the term “adopted” when referring to Mad and Z is done so often, rather than just saying that they have THREE children, period. They recognize that dispite their best efforts Mad and Z will encounter some negative people and situations in their lives that Shiloh will not experience. Some of the angriest and vile people at FF and PH regularly refer to Mad and Z using racial slurs. Some delusional Brad/____ golden couple fans regularly describe the imaginary beautiful blond/blue eyed offspring that Brad and ___ would have produced in comparison to how Mad and Z look. They are all racists pure and simple. They lack the big hearts that Angelina and Brad clearly have, to love without seeing differences in skin color and cultures. I am not much of a TCruise fan, but he also has such a big heart.
Angelina has said how she worried that she would feel different about Shiloh, as compared to her feelings for Mad and Z because she gave birth to Shiloh. I interpreted that to mean that she was worrried that she might love Shiloh maybe a bit more because Shiloh is her biological child with the man she loves. She went on to say that this did not happen, she loves them all the same. She was honest and said the main difference is that sometimes she looks at Shiloh and sees Brad, which she said was “sweet”. HOW IN THE HELL CAN ANYONE DOUBT THAT SHE LOVES ALL THREE OF THESE CHILDREN? SHE IS A FIERCE MOTHER. She is just too honest in expressing that she worries as to how Mad and Z will be and have been treated no matter that they are Jolie-Pitts, but at the same time recognizes that Shiloh has certain needs, and that she and Brad must make sure that all three children’s differing needs are met. She is totally devoted to being a mother, and what good loving mother doesn’t worry in this crazy world we all live in.
I have a good friend who has two children, and one child has severe health issues requiring many hospitalizations. She and her husband make a special effort to make sure that their healthy child does not feel neglected, is not neglected. They love their children the same, but the needs of the children differ.
Lastly, I am also part Native American and I was pleased to see that Angelina acknowledged that she and Brad were also. Maybe they will adopt a native american child.

piper, with a low Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 1:38 am
This is my last post of the night.
Ever since the Anderson Cooper interview when she said that she was surprised that her feelings for Shiloh wasn’t any different than Maddox and Zahara, people have been in a snit about it. Yes, she admitted that she was scared when she didn’t hear her cry immediately. You can bet that if she dwelled on that moment and retold that story time and time again, people would’ve accused her of milking it and being insensitive for talking about an experience that ___ didn’t get to experience. Hell, these people even tried to link Shiloh’s birth as a final fu to ___ just before her movie premiere.
When a child enters one’s life, should the mode in which he or she arrives be the sole attribute of the child? It shouldn’t be, but people have made it an issue from jump.
One last thing… whenever Angelina discussed her initial contact with her children, fear was always involved. When she held Maddox, before she even considered adoption, she was scared that he would react badly toward her–not much, but for someone who didn’t contemplate the option of being a mom, it could be frightening– and the fear that she didn’t know enough about taking care of a baby/child; with Zahara, it was the fear that Zahara may die; and with Shiloh, it was the fear that she wasn’t doing enough to secure Shiloh’s health- after all, she was the one carrying her 24/7. Whether it was the press criticizing her thin physique, her activities, and her choice to give birth in Africa, I’m sure that there were constant swirls of fear, the common fear that all mothers have. But most mothers have the luxury of anonymity, even a collective of women sharing their war scars to assuage guilt and anxiety.
But not Angelina. What she is getting is a bunch of priggish harpies who continue to live under the delusion that their $h*t smells like potpourri. People who continue to believe that a photograph, an interview or brief interaction, or recordings of mere moments out of billions define a person.

CLINIQUA Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 3:57 am
I’m not even addressing what peeps have been discussing…aj has very clearly communicated that she loves her children equally…so the game of ‘GOTCHA’ that haters play and even try to entice us into is ridiculous…if you don’t get that aj was talking ‘compassion and cognizance over mad & z’s special circumstances being adopted, being non-white, and coming into the world in poverty and tragedy, then you need to examine why you are a fan to begin with.
uh-oh…looks like I addressed it anyway.
‘feel more’ isn’t ‘love more’…she’s talking compassion for them (HELLO?!?!) and the awareness that her older two kids are more ‘vulnerable’ in this society than shi.
that’s not to say shiloh can’t be vulnerable and that she shouldn’t worry about her in this way as well…but i’m sure aj feels THAT is something that SHE & BRAD CAN CONTROL…how Shi sees herself…her self-esteem…while with mad and z, like the wonderful intuitive smart woman she is…she knows she has to prepare them for how they may be treated in the world due to several factors…including them being adopted…and not being the same race as mom and dad….i’ll never forget aj talking about how a friend of hers once said asian men were not her type…and aj immediately felt a pain in her heart as she thought of someone thinking that way about mad.
I admire the way in which aj is so real and righteous…the only thing that frustrates me is the realization that much of the press and some members of the public, if they are not haters outright, may just not be worthy, compassionate, or smart enough to deal with and understand her brand of refreshing honesty.
I got what she meant straight off…and am po’d it’s even being discussed this vociferously…to the exclusion of everything else she says in the article of interest! wtf! like for instance…does she really say brad is part native american too? how cool! I always suspected he might be…something about the eyes.
i’m going to check it out now…i still haven’t seen aj’s pic in the carrib

People

We all know Angie loves her children to death!! there is no need to dissect her statements and discuss about it. Period.

One small question:

Since “A Mighty Heart” is being produced by Brad’s Plan B, with Angie starring in it. Does it mean that Brad will pay Angie her fee, I mean the fee she usually gets for her movies(i.e. $10-15 million)!! its kind of funny, hahaha. Good for them. Way to go Brad.

Artist depicts Angelina Jolie as Virgin Mary
The Associated PressPublished:

RALEIGH, North Carolina: A painting of actress Angelina Jolie as the Virgin Mary hovering over a Wal-Mart check-out line is on sale for $50,000 (€38,200) and has created a buzz on the Internet.

Kate Kretz has painted for 20 years but none of her previous works has garnered the attention given “Blessed Art Thou,” which was to show at Art Miami 2007 beginning Friday. One reason for the attention was a posting of the painting on the popular gossip site, http://www.perezhilton.com.

The painting — acrylic and oil on linen — depicts an angelic Jolie in the clouds, holding her newborn daughter Shiloh with children Maddox and Zahara at her legs. Below them is a checkout line at Wal-Mart, where women wait in line. The painting is for sale through Chelsea Galleria in Miami, which represents Kretz.

On her blog, Kretz said the painting addresses “the celebrity worship cycle.” She said she chose Jolie for the subject “because of her unavoidable presence in the media, the worldwide anticipation of her child, her ‘unattainable’ beauty and the good that she is doing in the world through her example, which adds another layer to the already complicated questions surrounding her status.”

“My intention was to ask a question and get people to think,” Kretz said in a telephone interview Friday from Miami. “I had no idea so many people would be asking a question and thinking.”

The attention is startling for Kretz, who does not watch much television and never read tabloids until she began doing research for this painting. “I’m looking at it from the point of view from somebody from another planet — what is this about, this is so strange.”

Kretz, 43, was an associate professor at Florida International University for 10 years before moving to Burlington, North Carolina, about 50 miles (80 kilometers) west of Raleigh.

With the popularity of “Blessed Art Thou,” her blog, which used to average 30 unique viewers daily, is getting more attention from strangers these days with 15,000 unique views Wednesday.

Washington Post art critic Blake Gopnik, asked to comment about “Blessed Art Thou” on a Post blog, said the painting’s message is too obvious.

“It’s more like a puzzle-picture than a probing work of art: Once you’ve deciphered it, there’s not much chance of giving it a second look,” Gopnik wrote. “Its van-art technique, especially, is so generic that it hardly has a thing to say that hasn’t been said a thousand times before — often, much better.”

But Kretz’s experience so far is that the painting is not so easily decipherable — opinions posted on her blog range from people who think she’s deifying celebrities to those who believe she is making fun of the culture that deifies them.

“Kate, I love the painting and I love even more what it says to me,” one blogger wrote. “This is very inspiring. The weird world of the celebrity cult fascinates me and repulses me at the same time. There is nothing stranger than the spaces, premises and concepts of the world we live in.”

But another said “I’m feeling a bit of resentment towards the artist for being yet one more media person to shove Jolie’s useless visage in my face.”

Kretz, who was raised Catholic and often uses church imagery in her work, said the painting has become a lightning rod on the subject of celebrity culture.

“Whatever people want to foist on the painting, they are foisting on to the painting,” she said.

Just found that! I want to share it!! http://www.planetangelinajolie.com/wp-content/bradgelina-1.jpg Look how they are happy!! Just wonderful!

i love anjies honesty,she’ll never trade her children with anything in this world……

I have to disagree with those that think her alleged comments in Elle about Brad don’t jive with Vogue.

I think from the time Maddox came into her live and up until she met and started falling in love with Brad her comments about what it would take for to have a permanent man in her life were abstract thoughts. She was telling the requirements it would take for her to let a man come into her and Maddox life. She knew that the man would have to a father to Maddox in the complete context of being a Dad. While I don’t think she had totally given up on finding a great man who would not only lover but love Maddox, it was not high on her list of expectations. So when Angelina first started filming Mr and Mrs smith , I certainly don’t think her comments that she was not looking for something. She wasn’t. I think as the weeks and months past and she developed a friendship and then started falling in love with Brad things changed. I think she starteed sensing more. I think after Brad/Jen seperated things intensified and these feelings were no longer abstract thoughts but reality. I also believe that not only did Brad meet her abstract expectations but exeeded them. So, when I read all her comments post adopting Maddox up through today, I think they all are consistent with each other .

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green lettuce Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 4:50 pm
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LOL!! Yes it is wonderful indeed but I’m sure you wouldn’t want to be here when Jared had put this specific pic as a thread about several month ago… :lol:

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Lurker Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 4:49 pm
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Am I missing something?? Isn’t that a common knowledge already??

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think positive! Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 4:57 pm

Is it? I am not sure it is for some people here.

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think positive! Says:
LOL!! Yes it is wonderful indeed but I’m sure you wouldn’t want to be here when Jared had put this specific pic as a thread about several month ago…
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Sorry I’m a newcomer here!So I didn’t know… :(

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question? Says:

January 6th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
I have a question, do you think Brad’s people since angie does not have a publicist scan boards such as JJ and read what people are writing and thinking about? And if they do if they would tell Brad and or Angie some of the stuff?

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My gut instinct is no…but then again I take Prilosec religiously…

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If I were Brad’s publicist, I’d scan through blogs like JJ or any other celebrity blogs, to have a feel of public opinion, so that I can plan my next move for my client (like Pitt)

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Anna Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 4:58 pm

“Pitt and Jolie have been spotted having candlelit dinners nightly on their veranda.”

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/pagesix_u.htm

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That’s the only part I give a darn about lol. If true, that’s wonderful!

jpf

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JPF, here’s why I do think it’s true: Thinking of what we know of Brad and Angie, we see them as knowing and wanting to extract the best from what they do, and where they are.

They don’t let life happen to them and then flop on the sofa and watch TV for hours every day-no, they seem to grab every opportunity that’s presented to them for seeing more, learning more, feeling more, giving more, appreciating more.

So I can totally see them conciously creating a beautiful time for the two of them with candlelit dinners on a veranda, rather than just letting nights unfold on their own, with the kids and the rest.

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That’s a lovely thought.. yes I can see that too. :)

In her own words excerpts from 2002 Vogue

Expressing herself

Many of the things Jolie has said over the last several years—as she went from playing tragic supermodel Gia to earnest superhero Lara Croft—have been misconstrued. She’s often half-kidding—being arch or perverse—and that aspect of her personality seems to get lost in translation. One has to see the raised eyebrow that accompanies some of her more eccentric utterances to fully appreciate them.
Because she is a first-class talker, Jolie often launches into long jazzy riffs—virtual thickets of verbiage. She’ll start to talk … then stop. Start again … and stop. Sometimes she will abandon the beginning of her riff several times until, at last, she hits the sweet spot. At one point, I ask what she’s sick of talking about, and a great big smile spreads across her face: “Probably what you’re sick of hearing about.”

The biggest misperception about me is that I’m not a conscious person or a smart person. I’ve been reckless, certainly, but I’m not a rebel without a cause. I’m not out to piss people off or irritate people or shock people. I was actually always coming from a place of trying to express something I’ve learned. Like when I was trying to explain that I fell in love with a woman, and that I understood something about life, or what that might feel like, or how interesting or beautiful that was. I thought I had expressed that; instead it just became some shocking tabloid thing, which was upsetting.

“I think I’m exactly the opposite of unpredictable. I’m extremely focused. When I have a feeling to do something, I just do it. So it seems like it’s come out of nowhere. My mom used to say that about me: that some things seem like they happened overnight. But she knows I’ve been in the process of figuring it out and talking about it for years.”

Within her nuclear family, Jolie seems to be closest to her brother, James. When I bring up the flap over their demonstrative affection for each other on her big night at the Oscars in 2000, she starts to laugh. “To me, it was just amazing that people didn’t understand,” she says, still incredulous. “Saying I’m ‘in love’ with him is just an expression. It’s just the way I was talking. What I meant was, in this moment, with all this **** going on, all that matters to me is that guy sitting right there who has stood by me and is so ******* happy for me.”

On being a Mother
Clearly, Jolie has thought hard about becoming a mother. “I think it’s a big thing to admit that you’re good enough to be a parent. It’s the most important thing you could be.” But despite the fact that Jolie knows that she is “a pretty decent, pretty centered” person, she can’t quite shake the feeling that she might be mocked for her decision. “If you have tattoos and opinions about things and you act in very free ways, then you aren’t considered a person who would be a wife and a mother,” she says. “They write about me as if I’m unattached to anything. Why is it so funny to everybody that I could be a mother? But it’s the same with our marriage. Why is it nobody wants to hear about the fact that we have a strong marriage? Why is it everybody would rather talk about how ******* kooky we are? It’s the same as the way people can’t imagine that gay people could possibly be traditionally in love. Why can’t they be? And why can’t we be?”

Translation

“Especially do not repeat to him but… yes, I love him… I really love him very much. As far as I know, my life seems to me harmonious.”

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Carole Says:
January 6th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
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