Wed, 14 March 2007 at 1:17 pm
Angelina Jolie in Vietnam for Adoption
Angelina Jolie leaves from Ho Chi Minh City International Airport and is escorted through Vietnam with 5-year-old son Maddox under the protection of her personal security officer Mickey Brett. Here’s Angelina’s expected agenda during her stay:
- Travel to Tam Binh orphanage outside Ho Chi Minh City to receive 3-year-old child (most likely a boy)
- Participate in an adoption ceremony with officials in Ho Chi Minh City
- Meet with U.S. consular officials to review the adoption and grant the child a passport.
It appears that Brad Pitt is home in L.A. taking care of his two daughters, Zahara, 2, and Shiloh, 10 months.








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#340 dina#1,ITA!I posted somewhat the same thing on the other thread.Remember the People magazine article when Angelina’s pregnancy was announced?When asked if they planned to adopt again and Angie said “of course we are already discussing the next country”and at the time Angelina was still pregnant.Also let’s not forget the Nightline interview when Angelina said she planned to have a few and adopt a bunch.This couple means business!Brad has FINALLY found a woman he is on the same page with!This couple will end up with aleast 6-9 kids.I lean more toward 6 but we will see!:lol:
Tijen— JMHO, they are so close to being over the edge; our cyber belly-dancing might just about kill them. SOOOO, OK we’re on but we want Medi and Curly to join in…..why not the haters drove us nuts for months, more like years . TP can you handle the Ouzos as well as belly-dancing with us for the home-coming party :lol: :lol:
Right now it’s 8:39 a.m. in Ho Chi Minh City.
I am guessing their giving and receiving ceremony is in the morning….ours was. So Ange and Maddox are probably finishing breakfast, unless they were both too excited to eat, and rushing off to greet the new boy (S’ang Shark Boy Jolie, is it, according to Maddox??:)) What present will Maddox have brought him?
Let’s say the G and R is at 10. Can we start the party yet?
After the G and R the child’s officially yours, according to Vietnamese law, and all that’s left is for the U.S. consulate to issue a U.S. visa for him. You can bet they are whisking her in and out of every single appointment; even though the visa office is no one’s favorite posting, now the folks at the American consulate are beating each other up, “Let ME process her!!!!!”
In 2000, our babies got delivered to our hotel in Hanoi (”like pizza,” said my 8-year-old nephew from Minneapolis who was traveling with my sister and her family and me to pick up my new kids), and we kept them there because we had to wait a few days for our G and R. I would guess that Angie’s G and R is either right away, or she spends a day at the orphanage with the boy and Maddox, helping him say goodbye to all his friends and his caregivers, letting him get used to the idea that he’s not being carted off by a monster, even though the new lady speaks funny and can’t understand a word he says. This has got to be terrifying! How does he know he will be fed and cared for, even though the nannas tell him he will be fine? That is a lot to process at 3!!! You can bet this child will be hanging onto Angie for dear life, the first time he sees an escalator in an airport, the first time he steps into the hotel and sees a bathtub.
At the orphanage in Hanoi, in 2000 when I got my two, there were 80 babies and toddlers and only 10 caregivers. They tried so hard, but there were never enough arms, always too many babies. They were three babies in a crib, lying sideways, and both of my kids had microscopic bugs under their skin called scabies. My 4 1/2 month old daughter weighed 7 pounds, less than most newborns in this country, and was constantly coughing and scraping her fingernails over those scabies wounds (it itches like h*ll to have scabies).
Today she is beautiful and petite and 7 years old and ready to conquer the world. She loves school, does dance lessons and karate and piano and violin and is a loving, happy, beautiful child.
Vietnamese is an incredibly difficult language for us westerners to master, I’m told; it’s a tonal language. The tone you “sing” a word in can totally change its meaning. I don’t think the new sibling or the caregivers at the orphanage will know any French, or English, for that matter…that’s an upper-class thing. The orphanage director, yes, the folks who have day to day contact with the orphans, no. I winder if the new boy has ever held a picture book or been read to.
So angie needs to be learning words in Vietnamese like “Do you need to go pee?” and “are you hungry?” and “bathroom is here.” And I bet your bottom dollar she is learning to say “I love you,” and she has taught it to Mad too.
AG, Guli, let me know when the welcom home party is. OTAM (that’s me, older than average mom) will try to come.
Thanks Jared for the new thread and the pictures.
I am so happy for the this family, and for this little boy that is going to have a wonderful life with Brad, Angie, Madd, Zee and Shi; and he is going to have grandparents, uncles, aunt and cousins. He is one lucky little boy. He is going to be love and know that he is wanted. Oh there is Mickey, it is so good to see him, missed ya Mickey, welcome back
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dina#1 Says:
March 14th, 2007 at 8:23 pm - flag comment
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That’s a pretty good theory.
I’m happy for the Jolie-Pitts. While HW, the press, haters, etc. are acting like high schoolers, Brad and Angelina are going about their business. The skeptics and haters can scream favoritism all they want, nevermind the fact that Britney, Lindsey, and numerous other young HW junkies are skating through important matters like work, and rehab, and doing so unapologetically and absent-mindedly, yet haters will gloss over the fact that this adoption was in the offing for nearly a year. We know this because the press are haphazard about reporting the full story where Brad and Angelina are concerned. This will continue, no doubt.
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guli -They have a history of being able to pop up at will. LOL. When the first stories came out that Angelina was in Cambodia in November, they all said Brad was not there, his whereabouts unknown. Then a day later the news said that Brad was there, had been there all the time with Angelina and the kids, and that they had flown to Vietnam from Cambodia. Brad’s whereabouts will be revealed in time. It’s obvious that Angelina’s arrival in Vietnam caught the paps by surprise. These two can fly under the radar when they need to.
Sheri, hi ya lady, so we are having the home-coming part for the new BAMZS son right? Susie and few others agree ,is joliepitt OKwith it , and all the BAMZS+? fans agree? Sheri, I’ll send you an email before I log-off….
Wow. This has been a busy day here at JJ, what with the excitement at the latest addition to the family, the screaming at the ocean, the resulting psychotherapy, the party planning and the welcoming of the ever expanding members of the BAMZS+1 fanbase. Never a dull day at JJ!
I am impatient for this little boy to be united with his whole new family. I am so happy for him and them. Can’t you just see little Zee sizing him up. He’ll be fully immersed in the chaos in no time. Plus as a bonus he gets all these internet aunties rooting for him and his success.
guli - sorry was doing stuff. no need for off line! I was trying to say your very welcoming to new people. You then told me African Girl welcomed you! Sorry if it sounded weird, not meant that way at all. I love her posts and yours. Sorry!
I just have no idea who was the original BAMZS+1 fan here. I really appreciate that person and all who are here now.
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gitane Says:
March 14th, 2007 at 3:56 pm - flag comment
OMG!! mickey’s back!!! oh how i’ve missed him! and angie brought madd with her to meet his new little brother! how sweet! daddy’s with the girls and mommy’s with the boys.
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Hiya G., yes our Mickey is back, I swear I was jumping for joy when I saw him :), it is so good to see him, missed him like crazy. I think it is wonderful that Angie brought Madd with her to meet his new little brother as well, it gives them some bonding time. Madd is going to be a fantastic big brother, and not only to his new little brother but to his little sisters as well; and I can’t wait to see pictures of the new Jolie-Pitt
I am ignoring the haters. I think this is great news. I think they will keep adding until they get their soccer team.
Hey someone from west hollywood- it’s good to hear someone from the industry talking about some of this stuff.
The only reports that I had heard was of Angie going after Brad hard, bringing Madox on the set, waiting for Brad w/ Mad and building a bond between the two.
I like to hear more of the story. But, I must admit, Angie seems like a cult leader. Very memorizing. I’m a women, so, I know how easy it is to reign a “poor guy” in. A lot of guys are easily taken in with a physical women with dreams and passions. Us women need to use our “power” wisely.
#350 leetle UN,I’m glad to here that your daughter is fine,WOW your story had me in tears.I’m not much of a crier but anything concerning a child being sick etc,gets me everytime!I adopted from Guatemala so my daughter was with a foster family before we adopted her.They took really good care of her and loved her very much.We felt guilty about taking her from them(I think if they could have afforded it they would have kept her)I cried so much at the hotel tears of joy and tears of sadness for the foster family.
leetle Un
Thank you for that insight into the process they will be going through. The story of your daughter is heartwarming.
guli I’m off soon also! Sent you and email! All BAMZS fans today was really a great one! Brad and Angie are making the family of their dreams! Let the haters hate, and we can rejoice! Good hearts always win out!
Leetle UN - I would rather take you up for an ambassador for adoptees over Tatiana Beams.
great post and very educational.
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The real lou Says:
March 14th, 2007 at 9:09 pm - flag comment
#350 leetle UN,I’m glad to here that your daughter is fine,WOW your story had me in tears.I’m not much of a crier but anything concerning a child being sick etc,gets me everytime!I adopted from Guatemala so my daughter was with a foster family before we adopted her.They took really good care of her and loved her very much.We felt guilty about taking her from them(I think if they could have afforded it they would have kept her)I cried so much at the hotel tears of joy and tears of sadness for the foster family.
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Yes, my cousins adopted from Guatemala, both kids were with foster families before they came home, and both came out in better shape than my three from Vietnam and Ethiopia. But unfortunately Guatemala may soon be off limits for US adopters because Guatemala signed the Hague treaty but has been unable to implement it. Countries like Ethiopia that didn’t even sign might remain open to Americans. None of this is set in stone yet but it looks likely. Too bad for the kids, I say! I haven’t read but I have heard that The Hague treaty will likely also forbid foster situations, and that is a terrible shame. These kids need to be held, and frequently, from day one of their lives!!
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leetle UN Says:
Your commments are always so uplifting and informative. Your children are so lucky that they have you, and you are so lucky to have them in your life. Adopting a three year old has to have some challenges that one does not encounter when adopting an infant. Their personalities are formed, they are little people, with definite likes and dislikes. Maddox being made a part of the adoption process is invaluable for both children.
Isn’t it interesting that the fact that Angelina and Brad have been planning this adoption for many months, a year, just as they have been saying all along is now being made public? These two are very good at cooperative long term planning. They know what they want, know their goals, and go about doing what needs to be done to achieve those goals. Anyone who thinks that they are not extremely united and aware of what matters most to each other is a total fool.
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gitane Says:
March 14th, 2007 at 4:36 pm - flag comment
208 guli
hello. i tell ya i’m more excited about seeing mickey than i am about eventual pics of the new kid. i haven’t seen or heard from my man in months! you’d think he’d cause a controversy just so i would know he was alright.
okay. i’m very happy for the jolie-pitts and for the little boy they’re bringing into their family today. anybody know their nanny’s name so that i can bribe her for video of zee’s reaction to her new brother? i can just see the little darlin’ clinging to daddy’s leg, with a mouthful of crackers and a WTH look on her face. i hope they’ve been telling her they’re bringing another brother home, but i see her putting on a diva show anyway.
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Gitane, I think you’re absolutely right…Brad has probably been trying to explain it all in 2 year old terms, and Z has most likely just been giving him ‘the look.’ If Sang is as shy as they say, Zee will bulldoze right over him. I see her maybe having a couple of bad moments, it will be interesting to see what AJ says about it all in her next interview - she spilled the beans on Z’s reaction to Shi when she first came home, and we’ve all seen her ‘Baby? What baby?’ look in the newborn Shi edition of People, lmao. I think Zee is closest to Mad of all, since they play together and fight together, lol - this little tot coming in who Mad suddenly wants to do all the things he used to have to do with Zee (play soccer) and romp around…well Zee might not take that too well. Brad better check baby girl. LOLOL
Since Shiloh is coming up though - it won’t be long before they can rip and run together, plus they say the younger sibs of close in age older sibs start walking faster too…so it won’t be long before they are both terrorizing Mad and Sang.
I like Sang…I hope they keep it, if only to drown out the haters who will start screaming, ‘They are so arrogant, how dare they change his given name blah blah,’ or some such thing!
BAMZSS 4 EVER!!
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b Says:
March 14th, 2007 at 7:03 pm - flag comment
Extra” has learned that Brad is traveling alongside Angelina and Maddox to the city of Ho Chi Minh.
http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2007/03/angelina_jolie_involved_in_all.html
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Extra if full of horse manure. Anyone who can quote the OK! mag with a straight face needs to have their head examined.
You peeps gotta stop fighting amongst yourselves. Why does it matter if you don’t like someone? Just move on yeah? There’s too much infighting.
leetle UN
I had also heard that about Guatemala. That’s one of the reasons my friend’s adoption from Guatemala has fallen through. The agency couldn’t afford to comply with the new regulations.
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Samurai Jesus Says:
March 14th, 2007 at 6:59 pm - flag comment
I’m sorry, but this is rather sh|ty. A good friend of mine and his wife have been trying to adopt from Vietnam for over a year and are still on a “wait” list. Go figure…
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I have read that the speed of the adoption process has a little to do with the age of the child! Are your friends trying to adopt a baby? (and I agree that they would not be thinking any child coming home is a sh*t* thing, even if it is happening faster for others then for them! It’s different for everyone!)
There was a statment made that in this case, because the child is older, the process was just a little faster (although not by much!).
It’s the same in the USA. Infants here are in HIGH demand & therefore it usually takes years to be able to bring one home. But older children one can get in four months or less, especially when it’s the second or third time adopting.
I also totally understand why Angie adopts internationaly - Babies & young children here in the USA have a much better chance of adoption then the millions of young orphans in third world countries, and minus the starvation & disease, which we just don’t have here! Plus the wait time is just so much shorter in third world countries then in the US, for an infant anyway.
I’m no expert or anthing, by any means, but wanting to adopt myself, I have read ALOT about the subject.
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leetle UN Says:
March 14th, 2007 at 8:50 pm - flag comment
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TLC (Team Lara Croft) asked me earlier where I would adopt a young boy from, and I had not answered yet. After reading your post, I would answer - from Viet Nam.
I really enjoy how you can give us a first hand experience with adopting from Viet Nam. You are able to shed alot of first hand information that alot of us would not know of, if not for you. For that, I thank you. It seems so right that they would spend the day at the orphanage so that the young child could get familiar with Angelina and Maddox.
B&A are lame Says:
March 14th, 2007 at 2:49 pm - flag comment
Uhuhh any Doctor?? Nurse in the house??? anybody??? please give this person her dosage for the day or else she will not stop ranting .. and also increase the dosage to keep her quite …hehehehehe
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