Introducing… Pax Thien Jolie-Pitt
New reports from Vietnam are coming in that Angelina Jolie has renamed her 3-year-old adopted son from Pham Quang Sang to PAX THIEN JOLIE (soon to be PAX THIEN JOLIE-PITT).
In Latin, “PAX” means “peace.” In Vietnamese, “THIEN” means “sky.” The coolness factor pretty much matches up with the rest of the pack: Maddox, Zahara and Shiloh. PAX. THIEN. JOLIE. PITT.
But it has been confirmed that Angelina has completed procedures with Vietnamese authorities to adopt. Just one more hoop to jump through: U.S. consular and embassy officials must give approval.
In short… Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie will soon have four children: 5-year-old son Maddox adopted from Cambodia, 3-year-old son Pax adopted from Vietnam, 2-year-old daughter Zahara adopted from Ethiopia and 10-month old daughter Shiloh, who was born to the couple in May 2006.
First picture: Pax Jolie & Tam Binh Orphanage’s director Nguyen Van Trung
Second picture: Angelina Jolie and Maddox inside the orphanage
Third picture: Angelina leaving the Tam Binh orphanage
Fourth picture: Pax Jolie stands with other children from the orphanage
Fifth picture: Pax Jolie … bound for L.A.








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I like the name
GOD bless the Jolie-Pitts.
Another child comes home.
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Well congrats to her family.
Beautiful! Best wishes to the family and I wish Pax Thien a wonderful and happy life!
Congratulations Pax. God bless the Jolie-Pitts.
Pax, Pax, Pax hmmm catchy LOL hes so lucky!!
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Congratulations to Pax, Angie, Mad, Zee, Brad and Shi. Pax is a cutie.
Thanks Jared and Audrey.
PAX is Latin which means “Peace’
The kid is a qt! Congratulations to the JPs (including Pax). Pax will surely get a lot of love from this amazin fam.
Surprisingly a beautiful child. Perfect for their People’s Magazine “Most Beautiful Family” lame.
PAX looks like BRAD!
I just posted this on the other thread.
Pax= peace
Shiloh= peaceful one
Beautiful name for a beautiful child.
WOW! This is so awesome! I can’t stop looking at this little face, a beautiful little soul, who by some incredible karma, is now a member of the Jolie Pitt clan. I am so happy for all of them, and I hope that all the administrative aspects will be ironed out soon so that all the JoliePitts can be together again.
THANKS Jared!
Congrats and best wishes to Pax and the whole family!!! :)
A 4-year-old has already formed personal attachments to his foster caregivers, so it would be challenge for Angelina and Brad to make him feel comfortable and at ease. I hope he adapts to his new family soon though, and I’m pretty sure Maddox will help him come out of his shell. He must be stoked to have a brother who is around the same age as him to play football/soccer with.
It’s good to know that the older kids are also being noticed, we almost always see people adopting only the babies.
Welcome to your new life Pax Thien Jolie-Pitt.
On a sidenote: Its gonna be really funny if his name turns out to be Joe. :lol:
Thanks JJ for the update.
Wonderful news!
So now is it BAMZSP? or chronological by ages BAMPZS?
The second one is easier to say BAMPZS…
Which one will it be?
to much info so little time congrats to Pax and BAMZS!!GOOD NIGHT!!
This is wonderful. Congratulations, Jolie-Pitts!
So what is it now, BAMZSP???? :) Angie and Brad we need more vowels LOL!!!
#22 THE SECOND ONE IS EASIER!!!BAMPZS
So, she’s just going to change his name at 3 years old. Won’t he have enough changes already? If you were born John and at 3 someone started calling you Brad, it would be confusing!
I am diggin the name pax now.
info from souliejolie-
He’s 3 years and 4 months old (November or December birthday?) He likes eating spaghetti and yogurt. He has learned some English (counting from 1-10 and greeting).
He is just about 1 year older than Zee. My god, 4 children five and younger- 5, 3, 2, and 10 months. WOW!! And Angelina has said just this week that she wants even more children.
Hey peeps. I guess the next issue now for the haters will be why change the boy’s name. I love the name unique & easy.
I’m surprised it’s Pax really. I figured it would be 5 letters like the other kids. So Pax’s name would be Jolie-Pitt or Jolie to start with? Seems kind of strange to adopt him and then change his last name twice. I don’t exactly know about the name change and how it works. Anyway, congrats to them. I do kind of wish Brad was more of a part of it though. Before anyone complains, I know he’s a big part of it and will be the kids father, but I wish he could be there from the start and at the ceremony and singing of the adoption. Any word if he actually in the country or not? Some people are saying no, some are saying yes. I know some reports say just Maddox and some are saying all the kids.
Mad
Pax
Zee
Shi
……the Jolie Pitt Kids have very unique names. Best of luck to this beautiful family.
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stranger Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:24 am - flag comment
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I think the second one works best….. BAMPZS!
^6 letters like the rest of the kids, excuse my mistake. :D
her new kid is an alien or whatever kevin spacy was in that movie K-PAX lol
In an event wish them the best but it could have been a better name.
I thought changing the child’s name is common. At least Angelina gave him a name that could be from Vietnam normally parents will name the child a regular english name like jack or robert.
LOL everytime Angelina names her kids there is a reaction to the name. Some people did not like Zahara. Then did not like Shiloh. Now Pax. (Was not around when she named Maddox so don’t know how people reacted.)
Good luck to the family
A lot of thinking and caring seem to go into naming Jolie-Pitt children. I just love to be the fly on the wall of Jolie-Pitt household choosing these names LOL!!
I love all of their names!
Maddox named him Pax!! Hehehe
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Hey thank you for asking. Not yet. I tried last night, but my brain was scrambled. Today I was really busy. Guli, you must understand I just learned how to copy the name of the person from a previous post to my comment post. Challenge does not do justice to my lack of computer skills.
Are you leaving again? If so where to, and for how long. Where is, I think this how she spells her name, Mailabaumm, and OJP, Sweetpea? There are a couple of others who use to post often, but stopped when we became over run with haters. I will try tomorrow to see if You tube can help me.
Thanks for asking. Peace.
I wonder if they would consider getting married…It is kind of sad that because they are not married, Brad had to miss out on these moments, when reporters, officials get to witness such a special moment. he did not. I wonder who is the one who does not want to marry Brad or Angie. It almost like Brad is an afterthought, when you google it says “jolies adopted son” or “Angelina adopts”. I also notice recently that certain media outlets instead of saying Brad and Angelina…..they say Angelina and Brad Pitt…I know some peeps might laugh,,,but I think the media seems to see Brad almost as an afterthought. I also noticed with e tv coverage they also seem to list her name first now…If you notice they never say keith and nicole…it is always nicole and keith…tom and katie…I need to get some rest but you can see the beginings of what is happening…I have been a fan of Brad, and I hope jolie has his best interests at heart. I hope she doesn’t break his heart.
Go & sleep needsomesleep…you bore me to death.
He’s a cute little boy.To me, he looks like Maddox.They will have a great time together. God bless this family!
What a sweetheart! I can say for sure that he’s a very lucky boy =)
As for the name, I am sure that he’ll love his new name Pax, it’s not like she changes the whole origin of the name (like Madonna did - ‘David’, I mean what is that ?!!) Angie ALWAYS gives her children names that mean something!! God bless her and Brad and the kids.
wow! She sure decided to have a lot of kids, after snagging Brad! Hopefully she will still be able to look after them if anything bad happens with Brad. As he doesn’t adopted this particular kid, he’s not responsible for him i take it?
He’s cute. Now he just needs a faux mohawk and a soccer ball and he’s set.
Congrats to the Jolie-Pitts. Every child deserves to be loved.
The name change makes sense. If you are in an orphanage somebody picks a name just to call you that. There’s no background story no reason based in love. Angie has given him a name and when he’s older he’ll ask her about the name and she’ll explain to him what it means.
BAMPZS!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
Cute boy :)
But why did she change his name? I know that’s quite normal when adopting a child, but this boy is already 3,5 years old. He’s used to his name. So now not only he has to become familiar with another country and family, but also with another name. I wouldn’t have done that, I think.
But he’s a lucky boy to be adopted by Angie and Brad!
Wonder how the other kids are going to react on him, especially Maddox, ’cause he now has a younger brother!
I do think the new name is cool…and I am not trying to be a “hater” but I agree with those about changing the name of a 3 year old….at 3 years old….you KNOW your name. And while I agree that she puts a lot of thought into the names of the kids and the names are certainly interesting and meaningful and she tries to keep it within the heritage of the child…so? Should her desire to name them something “meaningful” and interesting make more sense or be more important than the kid keeping his name at 3 years old? Maddox and Zahara were too young to really have that concept ingrained…so it wasn’t a big deal. Should she have changed Brad’s name when they got together? His name is pretty dull and it doesn’t really mean much of anything…And… her name is sort of uncommon and it’s pretty….but does it “mean” anything?
I have to say that I think it’s a little rough on the child to change his name. My son is three, and if you were to change his name, it would rock his world. On top of everything else he’s adjusting to, why add that to the mix?
Still, congrats to the family. He is darling.
wonderfut news,nice name.may God continue to bless this family
wha is going on,someone used my name,the first post was not mine.i hope jj can stop people from using other peoples name that is very rude
Uh, “Thien” only means “good and kind” but not “heaven” nor “quieting” nor “bright”. All these words have the same letters but different accents.
whoever has being using my name to typeviews that are not mine better stop.this is like identity theft,jj pleaDE DO SOMETHING
awww soo cute!
Happy Birthday Cliniqua!
49. christy=> Angelina means “little angel” and “Jolie” is french for nice or pretty. I think her name does mean something as everybody else’s. Pax sounds ok for me, it seems like Angie loves boys names with X endings, but it is for the more meaningful combined with “good or kind”. Quite creative this hot mamma!
she didn’t change his name idiots.
Love the name-cute kid-I came up with ZB-MAPS
Cliniqua It’s your Bday-Well happy Birthday!!! Take the day off and have a wonderful day!
Wow! I go to bed, get up this morning, and there are three new threads introducing the cutest little boy Pax. He is beautiful. I like his name and the meaning of his name. I am very happy for the Jolie-Pitts family.
Mad & Pax! They will be brothers and friends for life.
Congratulations to Brad, Angie, Mad, Pax, Zee, and Shi. Now what do we call the family for short? BAMZSP? or BAMPZS?
Happy Birthday to Cliniqua!
j@red, I’m confused…so which [main] thread is it? gosh! lol
bbl
This is from her Elle interview:
“Madd and I talk about him being adopted, and he’s got some opinions about his brothers and sisters to come.” Maddox has already named the next addition to the family. ‘Last night I said to Brad, “If this becomes a reality, are we really thinking of that name?” He said, “Yes I think we have to!”
Cute child, lovely family and I wish them well…. BUT… why change the name of a 3 year old child? Poor thing will be confused!
OK, maybe in Vietnamese the names Phang and Pax sound alike….any thoughts on that? experts out there speaking Vietnamese?
might make the transition to a new name easier for the 3 year old.
whats his first language?
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Keeping it real Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 9:56 am - flag comment
I am a fan, what can you do. On the other hand you are a hater, a CLOSET fan. That’s pathetic posting and hating away LOL!!
sorry, I of course meant Pham and Pax
I hope he will feel at home very soon. How big must Angies Love for Mad be, that she adopts a boy in this age. What a loving Mother.
People protest too much. There are so many things to be thankful for in the boy’s life.
From only one picture that I’m able to see, looks like the boy is going to up to be a handsome Asian-looking man. He seems to be a contrast to Mad. Mad is cute, but this one, BASED ON THE ONE PICTURE I CAN SEE, seems to be pretty mature. I hope they keep his hair style, thought. :) Or I hope Mad will come to like his brother’s haircut. :)
THE FREAK SHOW STARTED
The topic of changing your adopted child’s name is a much talked about and at times heated discussion on adoption forums and groups. It’s an issue that will always be a hot topic and cause adoptive parents to second guess their instincts and question whether or not they are doing the best thing for their child.
I feel that it is a personal decision that certainly deserves a good amount of thought and consideration. In an older child adoption, the child may feel strongly attached to his name, or he may want a fresh start with a new name. I believe that the majority of adoptive parents do choose to change their child’s name, but we need to bear in mind that the majority of adoptions are of infants. Many feel that it is their right as parents to pass on a family name or choose their own name for their new child.
When I was pregnant with Cole, my husband and I had a list of girl names because we didn’t know the sex of the baby. When we started the adoption process and had requested a girl, none of those names worked anymore. We eventually came up with a very short list (and Ella wasn’t on it!)
We felt torn about the decision of whether or not to change our baby’s name when we got her. So we decided to hold off on any decision making until after we received her referral.
I can’t tell you exactly why we decided to name her our own name, but it just came down to feeling right. Her Vietnamese name (Cuc) is beautiful-it means chrysanthemum, and that is her first middle name. Her second middle name; Ruth, was my sweet Grammy’s middle name. Ella just came to me one day and I said “that’s it!” I shared with my husband and he whole heartedly agreed.
We kept her name a secret from all but my best friend, and it wasn’t revealed until after we had boarded the plane for Bangkok. Later that day that we left, my mom came to our house to take care of the cats and I had hung up the canvases I had painted that spelled out her name in her room. It was a wonderful surprise! We all thought we’d never be able to stop calling her Cuc, since that’s how we knew her for so long, but it hasn’t been an issue :) Even when someone does call her Cuc, we smile, because that’s her name too.
http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/changing-your-child-s-name
Adoptive Parents talking about changing their children’s names
http://forums.adoption.com/international-adoption-support/130783-toddler-adoption-name-change.html
Why would she change the name of a three year old? Isn’t he old enough to know his name? I think thats pretty stupid.
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someone Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 10:36 am - flag comment
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As is your comment.
It must be heartbreaking having to turn your back on all these kids in all these places, some more desparate than others. I guess that’s been part of her learning experience; something like, ‘you can’t save the whole world, but you can save a little bit of it’. No wonder she cried alot during the first couple years.
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What’s in a Name:
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Thanks for you post!!!!!!!
Maybe by changing his name she wants to signify that his life from here on will be a new, better life. I see nothing wrong with it. I like the new name now that I know what Pax means. Thien is a good name. A peaceful sky is bright and essentially that’s what his Vietnamese name ‘Quang Sa’ng’ alludes to. After the rain, the dark clouds are gone and the sun is out, the Vietnameses say ‘tro+`i quang’ (the sky is clear / bright). And when darkness is gone we say ’sa’ng ro^`i’ (there’s light). All in all, there is nothing to make of the changing of the name. His was not truly his any way since he was abandoned. A child can adapt quickly, especially when there are kids his age, even more so when there is one his gender. By next month I’m sure he’ll know enough English to let his new family know he’s hungry, thirsty, needs to go pee, and so on. A child born into a harsh world isn’t like one born into a country with massive welfare and social programs such as America. He or she will be just fine in the new environment.
Angie did make an effort to learn some Vietnamese phrases so she can comfort the boy. That is commendable.
I am just happy that she decided to adopt a Vietnamese boy. He is now saved from a life without education, on the hard streets of Saigon where he could be tricked into prostituting himself to survive. He will have education, dreams and very possibly have at least one of his dream fulfilled.
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Regina Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 10:53 am - flag comment
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Take your biggoted ass somewhere else. Doofus.
Break News
At this moment Jennifer is crying she’s been devastated by the new adoption. She can’t eat and sleep well I know she has many fans I provide the news for you in case you didn’t hear that. BAD NEWS FOR IDOL
Womp Womp Womp^
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just a thought Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 11:03 am - flag comment
Beautiful post. I wish everyone who is so critical of AJ will take the time to read it. Thanks again.
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Regina Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 10:53 am - flag comment
Mia Farrow was not as popular as Angie and Brad. and did you she the photo of Shi and Angie in Namibia, in Cambodia, it was Angie cuddling baby Shi. enough of this BS post. you’re just another sour looser like your idol Maniston.
She was not a good daughter to her Dad ? Was her dad a responsible dad? I know Angie was a good daughter to her mother, she start working at 14 to support her mom and brother. unlike Maniston , won’t even bother to share a helping hand while her mom was sick.
Stop your fantasy that Brad gonna take shiloh and go back to Maniston . Please, at 38 pushin 40, Maniston never experience motherhood, she don’t even like kid, how can you prove she ‘ll be a good mother, she even said her own mother was disease in her life ? How can this woman be a good mom, baby are not dog which Maniston are more adept to.
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Regina Says
Then why are you here? just trying to stir some trouble ? go back to ff cave.
Wait a minute. I’m confused. These threads are starting to say the same thing LOL
As I said on another Pax thread, congrats to the Jolie -Pitt family on their new new addition to the family.
I guess Angelina is gonna have to roll up her sleeves and add this:
16 00 N, 106 00 E
Vietman’s coordinates on the map.
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madd picked the name Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 10:02 am - flag comment
This is from her Elle interview:
“Madd and I talk about him being adopted, and he’s got some opinions about his brothers and sisters to come.” Maddox has already named the next addition to the family. ‘Last night I said to Brad, “If this becomes a reality, are we really thinking of that name?” He said, “Yes I think we have to!”
I love this Brad is so accomodating to his children. “I think we have to”, that is so cute.
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b Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 11:05 am - flag comment
Break News
At this moment Jennifer is crying she’s been devastated by the new adoption. She can’t eat and sleep well I know she has many fans I provide the news for you in case you didn’t hear that. BAD NEWS FOR IDOL
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YOU ARE AN IDIOT. LET IT GO. CONCENTRATE ON THE FAMILY.
I think if Angie….who knows way more than most of us about the ins and outs of adoption…..decided to give this boy a different name then she probably knew what she was doing. Pax seems to resemble Maddox more compared to all the other boys in the picture JJ provided, in my opinion. He also seems more solemn compared to the others but then again this is just one picture we have seen of him. Soon he will be smiling at his parents and frowning at the paps,lol. Congrats to the Jolie-Pitts on the new addition to their family.
……..A child born into a harsh world isn’t like one born into a country with massive welfare and social programs such as America. He or she will be just fine in the new environment.
Angie did make an effort to learn some Vietnamese phrases so she can comfort the boy. That is commendable.
I am just happy that she decided to adopt a Vietnamese boy. He is now saved from a life without education, on the hard streets of Saigon where he could be tricked into prostituting himself to survive. He will have education, dreams and very possibly have at least one of his dream fulfilled.
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When that boy grow-up, just like Mad, Zee, He ‘ll know how lucky he is and will always respect, love and grateful to both his parents -Brad and Angie.
Congratulations to the Jolie-Pitts for their new son. It’s great that Mad was there to ease the transition for him.
Angelina Jolie is a proud new mom once again, now that her adoption of a 3-year-old Vietnamese boy is official, Jolie’s rep tells PEOPLE exclusively.
The boy’s name is Pax Thien Jolie, born in November 2003, according to the orphanage where he has lived. His name means Peaceful Sky – Pax is peace in Latin and Thien is sky in Vietnamese.
Jolie’s rep says she took custody of the child on Thursday in Vietnam. They will remain in the country for about a week while the child’s American passport is processed, the rep says.
The boy had been living at the Tam Binh orphanage outside Ho Chi Minh City ever since he was abandoned at a hospital as a baby, according to adoption officials. Shortly after he arrived at the facility, staff attempted to locate his birth parents, but to no avail.
Jolie went to the orphanage Thursday morning with her 5-year-old son Maddox, whom she adopted in Cambodia in 2002. Jolie’s companion Brad Pitt did not accompany them to Vietnam.
“Brad very much wanted to be there but is under contract working on a film in Los Angeles and as a result couldn’t go,” Trevor Neilson, Jolie’s adviser on international affairs, tells PEOPLE.
About two dozen children in traditional ao dai formal garb greeted them and offered flowers at the orphanage. Jolie left carrying the boy to a waiting van.
“He is in good health,” orphanage director Nguyen Van Trung told the Associated Press, adding that the boy gets along with the other children and likes playing soccer. “He is a little bit shy.”
Trung also said Jolie’s adoption was swiftly processed because the boy is older and his files were already nearly complete.
Angelina Jolie with her son Maddox in Vietnam
Photo by: AP
Because Vietnamese law makes it difficult for unmarried couples to adopt, Jolie applied solo – but she and Pitt together will welcome their new Vietnamese child to their family, which along with Maddox includes Zahara, 2, and 10-month-old Shiloh. The adoption was a “process that began shortly after Shiloh was born [in May],” a source told PEOPLE in a recent cover story.
As for why Vietnam was selected in the first place, Jolie has traveled extensively in Southeast Asia and has visited the country at least twice – including, with Pitt, last Thanksgiving.
After adopting Maddox from Cambodia and Zahara from Ethiopia, she mused to Good Morning America in December that it might be a good idea to “balance the races so there’s another African person in the house for Z [and] another Asian person in the house for Mad.”
Thank You JJ for the wonderful thread. All of the children are so cute and beautiful. Congratulation to Ms. Jolie and family on her new son. Welcome to American little Jolie Pitt, may your life be full of adventures, loves and happiness
(well you don’t need to worry about the love and happiness part, it’s a given).
Happy Birthday to Cliniqua.
It’s nothing wrong with changing to a new name, parents are doing that to their own children all the time, especially parents that are from foreign country.
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What’s In a Name? Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 10:30 am - flag comment
The topic of changing your adopted child’s name is a much talked about and at times heated discussion on adoption forums and groups. It’s an issue that will always be a hot topic and cause adoptive parents to second guess their instincts and question whether or not they are doing the best thing for their child……………………
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. That was very sweet and so true. People should stop nit picking and look at the larger scale of things. As long the child is safe and happy I don;t think he will mind his name change. Sure there is going to be a time of adjusting for everyone involve but that’s life and kids should learn that no matter the age. He is still too young to really be attached to a name. I still call me kids by their nick names and they are well adjusted kids. Maybe Angie will call him LOVE or HONEY for a while, while they are all adjusting. Who cares what she names him as long as he is loved.
I have to say CONGRATULATIONS to the Jolie-Pitt family.
It’s really sweet to adopt children so they can have a better life.
Brad Pitt will soon have his soccer team.
Oh ya. I forgot to say thank you to JAred and his hard working team :)
Happy Birthday Cliniqua! You was birfed today :)
I can’t get over how cute they are and 3 is a fun age . I guess for peeps who love kids 4 would be fun … I can’t even imagine having 1. So, Angie took all her kids to meet their new bro?
BAMZSP - sound BAMZSPeee
BAMPZS - sound better
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Regina Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 10:53 am - flag comment
What a show-off. Poor kid, now he has to learn his new name, new language, new life all at once. Of course the kid is cute. She will never pick up an ugly kid, because won’t look good at the cover of Vanity Fair. Do you guys wonder why she never kisses or hug Shiloh ? it always Mad and Z, I think she is not over the fact that the beautiful child is a lot more than she deserve. She was not a good daughter to her daddy how suddenly she can be a role model for this rainbow kids. Just sucks. I hope that one day Brad takes off with Shiloh and leave the United Nationbs behind. She only does this for the publicity. Mia Farrow adopted challenged kids and nobody take one photo of her or her kids. Enough of Jolie.
You aren’t aware that the child was unseen by his new parents prior his him being chosen? The orphanage did the choosing, and it was based on the requested and quite limited criteria Angelina put forward “just like with Zahara.”
As for Brad packing up Shiloh and hightailing it away from her mom and sib’s, just what would be the reason Brad would do that and leave the rest behind? Brad Pitt said in the Esquire magazine interview that there was no difference between the adopted or the bio kids, and that blood was blood. He states that he couldn’t live without them and recommends adoption to anyone. He said on camera when he was at a Babel premiere and Ang & kids were at a nearby hotel that he believes in keeping the brood together. He said before that when he left them in India while coming to Cali for a premiere that he couldn’t wait to get back to his peeps, and quote “I miss my family!”.
attn Regina…….
You are entitled to your opinions on any subject, but it really only can help an argument when even a little research is done before sharing what you think on a subject, and research really helps when like you did, said stuff as if it were grounded in some truth when in TRUTH, there is no merit to anything you have said.
Why would you change a 3 years olds name? Its probably scary enough to start living with strangers you don’t know but than to have them call you a different name.
You know, nobody ever seems to remember that these munchkins grow up. She’s gonna have four (or more) rich, beautiful teenagers of assorted gender in her house at one time. Let us pray for their family.
good looking boy
Changing a 3 1/2 year old’s name is not a good idea and is strongly discouraged by adoption agencies and child psychologists. Why does Angelina Jolie say how important it is for her adopted children to know about their homeland and where they came from, and then go ahead and take their names away?
I guess this comment makes me a “hater” and a “faniston”, huh? I guess all those child experts must be fanistons too.
just make sure shi still gets her share of cookies and she will be fine. She is still the baby in the house…for now. I have a feeling Angie is pregnant or will be preggers soon enough. I don’t think she will adopt anymore .
i think its great that they have adopted but i dont get the name change?
Regina #79
Only reason you are yapping about Shiloh “being ignored” is because she is WHITE. You are a racist, KKK redneck. Thanks for taking off your mask showing your ugly self.
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Truc Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 11:38 am - flag comment
291/sophie: No Pham & Pax do not sound alike… Pham is one of the Vietnamese surname… In Viet Nam, his full name is Pham Quang Sang which has lovely meaning… It’s understandable that Angelina gave him new names… Pax Thien sounds nice & has lovely meaning… Vietnamese names & meaning can be tricky to translate depending on the placement of accents. Ex: Thiện, Thiên, Thiền, Thiền, Thiễn, Thiêۥn
Those names all have different meaning… Vietnamese has 6 different tones… and they change the meaning of words… The subtle differences in tones often pose a problem for a foreign learner of Vietnamese…
I wish all parties the very best… I feel sad knowing he cried, confused, was/is frightened by what has transpired in recent days… I have a beautiful niece his age… She is sharp, has a sense of self, identity, understands her surroundings, knows the concepts of attachement, love, dislike, etc… She loves her grandma but she would always say “no” when asked to stay overnight with grandma… she can’t fathom the thought of not being with her parents… This boy is lucky to be adopted by a very good mom & loving family but it is a trying time for him… being uprooted, removed from other kids, his caretakers, his familiarity, his comfort zone at a tender age of 3… my heart aches a bit… i hope he’s coping well and won’t be pereceived as a problem-child… Have compassion & patience for this child…
Some of you act as if they aren’t aware that the child has been accustomed to the name he’s been referred to for the time he’s been in the orphanage. The new name I’m sure isn’t at this time is being used for more than when it’s required on legal documentation. Stop being so unintelligent about this, or choosing to believe Brad & Angelina are being so. Yes, the boys name has been changed, and no, he is not expected to come running at the sound of it anytime soon I’m sure.
THANK YOU!!!!!!
That’s a beautiful name and he is a gorgeous child. I vote for BAMPSZ too! Maddox will love having a younger brother. This is one lucky child.
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Acutally most specialists say it is up to the situation and the family. There is no agreement as to what is best. As is most things when it comes to raising a child. If there was an clear understanding that changing the name would harm the child then it would most likely be part of the adoption policy that a child’s name after a certain age can’t be changed.
In Viet Nam, his full name is Pham Quang Sang which has lovely meaning… It’s understandable that Angelina gave him new names… Pax Thien sounds nice & has lovely meaning… Vietnamese names & meaning can be tricky to translate depending on the placement of accents. Ex: Thiện, Thiên, Thiền, Thiền, Thiễn, Thiêۥn
Surely that doesn’t matter to woman-of-the-world, lover-of-all-cultures Angelina Jolie? The woman must have to do mental gymnastics to accommodate all of her conflicting belefs/lies.
Hey all. I just watched “The Most” w/ Alison Stewart on MSNBC and she briefly talked about the adoption saying the pic of Angie and Maddox in the car is the most e-mailed pic of the day on yahoo. She called Mad a “cute little guy” :) But damn it, she left out Zahara when she named Brad and Angie’s other kids! Come on, Alison!
This child’s name was PHAM, it still should be! What a selfish bit*h giving him a designer name because it sounds cool. Whatever. She just totally took his identity from him, now he’s someone else. grrrrrrrrrrrr. i don’t like her or her motives
I meant BAMPZS–Shiloh last. It makes sense with the ages of the kids as well, oldest to youngest. Very cute.
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Give the Jolie-Pitts some credit ok? Says:
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jiminy c
Your hater side is showing. LOL Didn’t like the answer from someone who is from Vietnam because of course you know more.
Beatiful name. I guess they did not listen to me about Orleans huh Izzie! Hey Izzie!
Oh, well, it’s fine. I love this name. Given our history with Vietnam, this is a great and symbolic name and wonderful. He looks a lot like Mad. Just like David Banda looks a lot like Rocco Ritchie - this often happens in adoptions.
Wonderful. Angie: you are an inspiration.
Welcome Pax!
BAMPZS!!!!!!!!!!
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Lady G Says:
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I think the second one works best….. BAMPZS!
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For all the detractors= Please visit the UNHCR site and educate yourselves about what Ange does and why she believes in her humanitarian work so much- read her journals and then ask yourselves= Could I or Would I want to do that- to at least try to make a difference in this world of ours… Also- from reports I have heard (not sure if they are true, maybe some could guide me on this) AJ did not “PICK” Pax- Vietnamese officials/orphanage workers matched her with this particular child… as I said= not sure if true or not- but that’s one of the reports floating around…
Welcome Pax!
Angelina has a political advisor, so I would think that she would also have a pro helping her through this adoption as well. Don’ you think she has people around her like maybe a psychiatrist or some kind of doc that can help her and her family as they make this transition? She has said that it is not has hard as it would be for your average american mom because she is rich and can afford help when it is needed. my guess he will get used to BOTH names… He will respond to pax and sang.
TOMANYKIDS: You sure are spending lots of time jumping threads and commenting about someone you don’t like. Can you imagine how productive you could be if you actually put this same amount of time into a project that you did like? Are you the victim of a lobotomy as well? Go grab a life, sweetie. Yours seems to suck.
#113 When women marry they change their last names to their husband’s names. Feel any better?????
kip, of course I must be a “hater”. Whenever somebody questions the actions of another person, it’s because they hate them. Right?
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Give the Jolie-Pitts some credit ok? Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:00 pm - flag comment
Well haters have to harp on something. They wouldn’t be haters afterall. They can’t harp on the adoption itself, they can’t harp on AJ’s weight, they can’t harp on Pax. So why not the name. They are becomming amusing to me. Harp on people, When it is so easy to read all the lovely posts that give such eloquent thoughts and explanations about the adoption.
JIMINYC:
Surely that doesn’t matter to woman-of-the-world, lover-of-all-cultures Angelina Jolie? The woman must have to do mental gymnastics to accommodate all of her conflicting belefs/lies.
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That is why you are being called a hater.
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Uh, but not their given names. I doubt anyone would be fussing if they’d had him adopt their surname, but allowed him to retain his given name.
what is the problem of changing the name of the boy? he’s only 4 yrs old, he’ll get used 2 his new name in no time, duh? n also, am sure he don’t speak english again he’s 4 yrs old he can speak/learn 2 speak english in no time after that he’ll probably 4get the language that he used 2 speak wanna bet?
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tomanykids Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:04 pm - flag comment
This child’s name was PHAM, it still should be! What a selfish bit*h giving him a designer name because it sounds cool. Whatever. She just totally took his identity from him, now he’s someone else. grrrrrrrrrrrr. i don’t like her or her motives
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And “tomanykids” that last line of your post says it all. It makes your opinion not even one worthy of discussion on any level because you have it written on your heart in what appears to be indelible ink the fact that it wouldn’t matter what she did or didnt do because like you wrote and I quote “i don’t like her or her motives.”
Again, changing a name beats the hell out of life on the street as a homeless child.
So sweet for all the haters to be so concerned about Pax’s life. Don’t worry about him or his new name. The first 5 minutes of his new life will no doubt be happier than all of your miserable existences. Movin on……….
I will go with ~~ BAMZSP~~
please Bit*h, when a woman takes on a spouses name they are GROWN!
I can’t stand this self-centered cun*!Bdj your comment amuses me when i’ve seen you on other threads hating on the ex. STFU
I like the name Pax.. I love the meaning as well. It is a vietnamese name and not a “designer name”. Most likely for now he will be called the vietnamese version of sweetie or honey or some kind of endearment. Three is still young and he will adapt very well since he has such loving and thoughtful parents. I know two adoptive families who changed their kid’s names to american names so the children would fit in. One child was almost 5 years old. Also, I would think it could be very hard on the child if he was still called Sang in this country. He might be made fun of and teased. Angie and Brad are doing what is best for their son. I am very happy for them all.
Why is everyone so pissed off that she changed his name? This is common in adoptions, and I didn’t think it was a big deal. No one makes a big deal when someone else adopts a child and gives them a new name. In most adoptions there is a name change, even with older children they have to get a new last name. What’s the big deal. I think some people just want to have a reason to complain about something when it comes to Angelina Jolie. First it was why does she want so many kids? it’s too soon to adopt again, blah, blah, blah. People are just jealous. Every family does what’s best for them. Brad couldn’t make it to the adoption, and some people want to see this as something ominous. But in most cases when there is an adoption, particularly if the couple have other children, only one parent travels to the country to pick up the child. I watch Adoption Story on the Discovery Channel and usually this is what happens. No one says their marriages/relationships are in trouble.
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Pham is not a practical name coming to America. Some kids might tease him as a girl (Pam). Pham to Pax, I am sure Angie and Brad thought about the name diligently and Pax suits him best.
Why can’t you just be happy for them. Picky, picky!
I was thinking Brad must be excited and anxious right now stuck in L.a. Lmao! poor guy! He is going to have two sons. awww
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March 15th, 2007 at 12:22 pm - flag comment
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ROTLMAO! Someone has some serious anger issues.
tomanykids Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:22 pm - flag comment
Now you are really amusing. Your motives are too clear. Don’t need to hate on anyone, particulary a world famous X. Now a couple of jokes, I’m up for that. peace.
Like I said they will most likely still call him pham or sang (what was his name) as well as pax through out the years. I don’t see a big deal … he was just blessed with many names. that’s all.
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tomanykids Says:
why are you here?
TOMANYKIDS: Nice sewer of a mouth. Go drink some bleach and clean that thing out, will ya? Again, why not go do something you like? You are a freak of nature for spending all your time here. If it is just to stir the pot, I imagine Pax is more mature than you.
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Team Lara Croft Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:06 pm - flag comment
Beatiful name. I guess they did not listen to me about Orleans huh Izzie! Hey Izzie!
Oh, well, it’s fine. I love this name. Given our history with Vietnam, this is a great and symbolic name and wonderful. He looks a lot like Mad. Just like David Banda looks a lot like Rocco Ritchie - this often happens in adoptions.
Wonderful. Angie: you are an inspiration.
Welcome Pax!
BAMPZS!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey TLC - nice post. Pax is such a sweet looking young boy. I am very happy that the Jolie-Pitts are growing! I think that Angelina used great judement to take Mad along with her to help bring his brother home. Once those two little guys put their heads together, I bet they will become fast “best brothers” dealing with Cheerio stealing little sisters.
You are right, Angie is an inspiration.
Happy Day ! !
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ohwell Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 9:21 am - flag comment
OK. I knew it. They are coming out of the woodwork, screaming that Angelina and Brad are over, that Angelina was selfish in this adoption, Brad does not want this child, Angelina has left Brad with the children, Brad has bailed because four children are just too much, etc.
Brad has a $150 million film riding on his back. The Vietnam officials sped up this adoption, the child was not to be available until April. Neither Brad nor Angelina were making a film when Zee was adopted. They had all their time free to do as they wished. The circumstances were different. Now Angelina has no work obligations at this time, her schedule is free. So she could go and get Pax at anytime, whenever the Vietnam officials notified them that Pax was available. Brad has to be very disappointed that he was not able to accompany Angelina to Vietnam at this time. He has been nothing but a loving father and partner to Angelina. What I just cannot understand is that some express giddy happiness that Brad is not in Vietnam, that this means that Angelina and Brad are through. Now how can one make an accurate interpretation of the status of a relationship based on one event, rather than on a patttern of events? There are now FOUR small children involved, how can some be so heartless, so callous, as to wish for the breakup of this family? Well, no surprise, that these foul individuals are spewing hate filled diatribes. Why would their behavior approach any rationality at this time? It hasn’t at any other time, and sadly, it appears that it never will. Irrational people stay irrational people.
Let’s see JGarner is filming in Canada. She has been there for a month. BenA is in LA, went up to visit last weekend, is back in LA. Are they breaking up because he is in LA and she is under contract filming in Canada?
Here’s wishing the best for all in this family. Pax has become a member of a loving family. Love his name.
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Such a great post!!
As I have said I don’t give a flying **** of what haters say. They have been spewing the same amount of pure hate for tow years and nothing has changed. And they obviously have their own agenda hating on the Jolie-Pitts on everything they do so I’m not expecting any improvement from them.
What baffles me though judging for what “sad” posted on the other thread is that some “fans” have a completely unrealistic image of this family and they have putted Brad and Angie to live up to some specific standards and when they don’t follow their “laws” then something is wrong. Or they are just letting the haters to get under their skin.
We are talking about real grown people here with many experiences on their backs with real lives to live that may not always seem idealistic to some. They are not tow characters of a fairytale that you are reading to entertain your self. They know how their life is and how they can handle every situation they are going through and how they will operate in every case way much better than us here or anyone else out there.
Just because some of us here may had done something different in the same situation doesn’t mean that we are right and they are wrong. Maybe it’s exactly the opposite. So if you don’t agree with something fine. They are not obligated to follow anyone’s path but theirs. And if you indeed admire them about what they represent just stop projecting and accept them as they are.
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ohwell Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 9:21 am - flag comment
OK. I knew it. They are coming out of the woodwork, screaming that Angelina and Brad are over, that Angelina was selfish in this adoption, Brad does not want this child, Angelina has left Brad with the children, Brad has bailed because four children are just too much, etc.
Brad has a $150 million film riding on his back. The Vietnam officials sped up this adoption, the child was not to be available until April. Neither Brad nor Angelina were making a film when Zee was adopted. They had all their time free to do as they wished. The circumstances were different. Now Angelina has no work obligations at this time, her schedule is free. So she could go and get Pax at anytime, whenever the Vietnam officials notified them that Pax was available. Brad has to be very disappointed that he was not able to accompany Angelina to Vietnam at this time. He has been nothing but a loving father and partner to Angelina. What I just cannot understand is that some express giddy happiness that Brad is not in Vietnam, that this means that Angelina and Brad are through. Now how can one make an accurate interpretation of the status of a relationship based on one event, rather than on a patttern of events? There are now FOUR small children involved, how can some be so heartless, so callous, as to wish for the breakup of this family? Well, no surprise, that these foul individuals are spewing hate filled diatribes. Why would their behavior approach any rationality at this time? It hasn’t at any other time, and sadly, it appears that it never will. Irrational people stay irrational people.
Let’s see JGarner is filming in Canada. She has been there for a month. BenA is in LA, went up to visit last weekend, is back in LA. Are they breaking up because he is in LA and she is under contract filming in Canada?
Here’s wishing the best for all in this family. Pax has become a member of a loving family. Love his name.
Such a great post!!
As I have said I don’t give a flying **** of what haters say. They have been spewing the same amount of pure hate for tow years and nothing has changed. And they obviously have their own agenda hating on the Jolie-Pitts on everything they do so I’m not expecting any improvement from them.
What baffles me though judging for what “sad” posted on the other thread is that some “fans” have a completely unrealistic image of this family and they have putted Brad and Angie to live up to some specific standards and when they don’t follow their “laws” then something is wrong. Or they are just letting the haters to get under their skin.
We are talking about real grown people here with many experiences on their backs with real lives to live that may not always seem idealistic to some. They are not tow characters of a fairytale that you are reading to entertain your self. They know how their life is and how they can handle every situation they are going through and how they will operate in every case way much better than us here or anyone else out there.
Just because some of us here may had done something different in the same situation doesn’t mean that we are right and they are wrong. Maybe it’s exactly the opposite. So if you don’t agree with something fine. They are not obligated to follow anyone’s path but theirs. And if you indeed admire them about what they represent just stop projecting and accept them as they are.
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KrUnG kRuNg Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:18 pm - flag comment
what is the problem of changing the name of the boy? he’s only 4 yrs old, he’ll get used 2 his new name in no time, duh? n also, am sure he don’t speak english again he’s 4 yrs old he can speak/learn 2 speak english in no time after that he’ll probably 4get the language that he used 2 speak wanna bet?
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There is no problem with it. Its the normal and very much expected response by those who look to find negativity in every move Angelina Jolie makes. If it werent the name, it would be something else, and rest assure that there WILL be something else. I try not to give them anymore power than they like to imagine they have, but sometimes I do need to point out their clear as cellophane obsession with picking her apart over things that if it were someone else doing it, not one of them would have much to say good or bad.
All these talk about changing the name is silly. Orientals oftentimes don’t even use their formal names that much. They always get nicknames and petnames when they’re young. It’s only when they grow a little older that they may think that’s become childish so they go with a name that they think sounds more like them. It’s like little Bobby (or Booboo) could ask to be called Bob or Robert just because they want to be taken as more mature.
It is a common practice too for Asians to change their names to a more western one when they come here to the US. Mostly because they want to blend or because they think their names will be hard for the westerners to pronounce. When you become a citizen here, they ask you if you’d like to keep your name or change it. I know a lot of people who did go for that deal.
People from the entertainment industry do it all the time. They change their names to suit their personality or to be more memorable. What’s the big deal???
Most of the posters claiming concern for the child having his name changed! are just using this as an excuse to rag on Angie and Brad. This is a very common thing for adoptees from foreign countries where their name might be a source of ridicule or teasing. If his name was Hung would people not thing it would be merciful for him to change it? Children can be cruel. Mia Farrow’s son is named Moses… Im sure that is not a Vietnamese name.
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can any1 answer me please? was the show “Survivor” on yesterday? it usually starts at 7pm, i looked 4 it at CBS but i sure don’t c it, did i missed it, ne1, please answer me pronto, thanx
Sorry for the douple post guys!!
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Peaches Says:
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madd picked the name Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 10:02 am - flag comment
This is from her Elle interview:
“Madd and I talk about him being adopted, and he’s got some opinions about his brothers and sisters to come.” Maddox has already named the next addition to the family. ‘Last night I said to Brad, “If this becomes a reality, are we really thinking of that name?” He said, “Yes I think we have to!”
I love this Brad is so accomodating to his children. “I think we have to”, that is so cute.
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Hee. Brad is so cute. I can almost hear him saying that, in his very ‘Brad-like’ way. lol :-)
Awww - thanks for all the b-day wishes again guys! :-) You rock!
Amaya, I can’t wait to hear what Jon and Stephen will have to say about dude that’s confessing to everything under the sun terrorism related and otherwise — this guy will be confessing to the Kennedy Assassination next…!! It seems like such a crock to me - a way for Bush to say, see who we nabbed so long ago, and he’s responsible for everything under the sun too, including Global Warming (take THAT Al Gore!) - bwaha!! I think it’s all manufactured B.S. - but I can’t wait to hear the Daily Show take. :-)
I so love the name that they chose for him.. can’t wait to see pics of all their children! God Bless them!
I guess Ray Ray and Shaquan have to wait a little longer as wealthy Americans run out of the country once again to adopt Xiang Lee or Carlita when there are thousands of children mostly children of color (who obviously no one wants) right here who need to be adopted.
e are talking about real grown people here with many experiences on their backs with real lives to live that may not always seem idealistic to some. They are not tow characters of a fairytale that you are reading to entertain your self. They know how their life is and how they can handle every situation they are going through and how they will operate in every case way much better than us here or anyone else out there.
Just because some of us here may had done something different in the same situation doesn’t mean that we are right and they are wrong. Maybe it’s exactly the opposite. So if you don’t agree with something fine. They are not obligated to follow anyone’s path but theirs. And if you indeed admire them about what they represent just stop projecting and accept them as they are.
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hallefrickinlujah!!!! amen to that!!!!
to jiminy c & tomanykids Says:
Angelina is the mother of her new baby she can change her new son’s name whether you like it or not ….YOU TWO lunatic STFU .
and i like his name PAX Thien Jolie-Pitt Welcome to your new home.
Oh please. All this phony concern.
My husband’s parents died when he was 8 and he and his brother went into an orphanage (this was the 60’s). Never adopted because they were too “old”. He stayed there until he was 18 and went off to college. Believe me, if someone had adopted him, they could have called him Popeye and he wouldn’t have cared because he would have had a better life.
STFU.
you two can divert the attention to my sewer mouth Whateva! I am totally blown away by the fact that she would actually change his name because it’s cool. Don’t push aside my comment. What justifacation could she possibly have to change his given name?UNREAL!
tomanykids:
don’t like her or her motives
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We know, we know you hate her. So?
Comments and questions coming from you are foul, malicious and has no value, so it won’t make any difference to anybody.
152, take your racist a.s.s on Queen Bee-ITCH.
Cliniqua, I can’t wait either :lol: And you just know they’re going to have his picture plastered right next to them. But I’m also interested in seeing if either of them will comment on Pax ..Will Stephen be upset and bring up how he’s offered to make babies with Angie the “old fashioned” way again? I posted that video on my blog and others where Angie was mentioned by Stephen and Jon.
http://amayasoky.blogspot.com/
I know what you mean…. My parents named me Robert.. called me Robert….Then, I went to school. all those mean kids called me Robby or Bobby. I was sooo confused.. Somehow though, I managed to survive that awful trauma. today I am proud to say I am a Name Changed Surviver! And one who proudly answers to Bob. :lol:
I’ll have to spend my day here at JJ’s just to keep up with all these threads..I WISH!!
Thanks Jared.
Pax is a total cutie. Actually, all the children there are adorable, I’d want to take them all home if I could. As for the name change, puhleeze, can we all say ‘grasping at straws.’ Pax Thien has a wonderful ring to it, as well as having a very profound meaning. Being that he is only 3 years, he is way too young to be traumatized by this name change. And who knows, perhaps Angie might still be calling him by his other name until he is more settled in with his new family. Can’t wait for the whole BAMPZS clan to be together again.
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tomanykids Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:42 pm - flag comment
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She did it just to piss you off. It was a job well done. Mission accomplished.
Have we agreed to calling them the BAMPZS or what?
zen..if it makes no difference to anyone then why all the feedback ,just ignore my comments. Thankyou
BTW, Happy Birthday CLINIQUA!
tomanykids
OMG she’s SHOCK JUST SHOCKED by the decision. LOL. So pathetic just like….never mind.
Congratulations to the Jolie Pitt family.
This family will always be in my prayers !!!
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redding Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:33 pm - flag comment
Most of the posters claiming concern for the child having his name changed! are just using this as an excuse to rag on Angie and Brad. This is a very common thing for adoptees from foreign countries where their name might be a source of ridicule or teasing. If his name was Hung would people not thing it would be merciful for him to change it? Children can be cruel. Mia Farrow’s son is named Moses… Im sure that is not a Vietnamese name.
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ICAM!!!
And yes, children can be really cruel to others be in about their name, looks, or whatever.
Of course it was okay for Mia to name her child(ren) anything she wanted. Afterall she isn’t Angie and no double standard applies.
I just roll my eyes at all this fake concern about a name change. When none of the loser even gave a darn that about the child and his life before Angie can on the scene.
92shut-up Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 11:36 am
People should stop nit picking and look at the larger scale of things. As long the child is safe and happy I don;t think he will mind his name change.
Sure there is going to be a time of adjusting for everyone involve but that’s life and kids should learn that no matter the age. He is still too young to really be attached to a name. I still call me kids by their nick names and they are well adjusted kids.
Maybe Angie will call him LOVE or HONEY for a while, while they are all adjusting. Who cares what she names him as long as he is loved.
Heehee - I wanna see that again….I saw that other clip of yours that you posted too Amaya — thanks!! Loved it…Stephen is so into some Angie…that b* Monica Crowley thought she was getting a dig in with her comment about ‘Angelina Jolie as Supreme Court nominee,’ — the great and cool part was, NO ONE in the audience laughed…it was like they actually DID take it seriously — hahaha…I think her joke would have worked better if she had substituted Lindsey Lohan or something. LOL …and the ‘loveless relationship’ crack from Stephen about Brad & maniston? well I’ll just love him forever for that ALONE. I think he was actually telling the truth when he said he’s got friends ‘in the know.’ Muahahaha!
UGLY ANISTON LMAO ..With a nic like that how can anyone take anything you say seriously? Who’s the lunatic?
i am on the other thread,i guess it is the same
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tomanykids
clearly you are the lunatic to stay on a thread FOR HOURS of someone you don’t like.
Get a life.
Welcome little Pax.I know that you are leaving your country,the people who took care of you the three years of your life and some good friends,but from now on you will enjoy the love and affection of two caring parents,the company of three adorable kids and the safety of a warm home.And you will always have the best wishes from thousands of people that love your family,the BAMPZS if you have heard of them.You’ll never be alone again!
Pax Thien Jolie/Pitt, loves it, aycaramba…
Lets ignore the haters or at least make fun of them. But don’t have a conversation with them. Some are just to dumb to understand no matter how hard you try.
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Tijen Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:45 pm - flag comment
Have we agreed to calling them the BAMPZS or what?
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I’m in that group.Who else?
TOMANYKIDS: Still here loser?
Maddox comforts his brother
According to the Daily Mail, this is Pax. Cute little guy, non? The orphanage director said he’s quite shy, cried naturally when he met half of his new family, and was held and kissed by Angie and then comforted by Maddox.
Angelina and her two sons are expected to remain in Vietnam until at least after the weekend for paperwork etc and then head back to LA to rejoin Brad and the girls.
Brad was apparently contractually obligated to stay on set but sources say the adoption is very much what they both want and as I wrote yesterday, both parents were present and assessed during home visits as part of the adoption procedure.
Word from Vietnam is that Angelina has been on the phone steadily, that she checks in often back home, and that she often passes the phone to Maddox who has been overhead mumbling to his “Dad”. I’m told the “mumbling” is quite endearing.
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Tijen Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:45 pm - flag comment
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I am all for BAMPZS. Due to the age factor.
But what do I know……..just love this family and hope they continue to be blessed, loved by each other, and as happy as possible.
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tomanykids Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:46 pm - flag comment
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Just want to let you know your comments are not serving you right and you come out like a pathetic loser, but you’re correct you should be ignored. IT’S DONE!
tomanykids, you have the liberty of adding B.I.T.C.H to people’s names and you are complaining that Angie changed her child’s name, at least she called him PEACE not the vile name you call people. HYPOCRITE!!!!!
TOMANYKIDS: Why do you keep pushing aside the question of why you spend so much time here? You are the poster child for forced sterilization.
Cliniqua, the clip of Stephen offering his babymaking services to Angie is on my blog :) Along with a few others. Since the office is in reruns…you have to check this cartoon spoofing the show using a group of familiar faces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxaiw03YIg
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tomanykids Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:49 pm - flag comment
UGLY ANISTON LMAO ..With a nic like that how can anyone take anything you say seriously? Who’s the lunatic?
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Er…her screenname is 100% accurate and totally based in fact, what are YOU talking about?
tomanykids says you are a loser and a lunatic,you come here because you want the attension.go get your facts right before you open your ******* big mouth
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KrUnG kRuNg Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:34 pm - flag comment
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can any1 answer me please? was the show “Survivor” on yesterday? it usually starts at 7pm, i looked 4 it at CBS but i sure don’t c it, did i missed it, ne1, please answer me pronto, thanx
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No, it wasn’t on. In past years, it has been on the Wednesday prior to the NCAA tournament, but not this year.
Do you like the new format of having one tribe living w/nothing and the other living with all of the luxurious items?
izzie says suvivor is on thursdays at 8
are Z n baby Shi w/Angie n Maddox in Vietnam 2? am confused hehe
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KrUnG kRuNg Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:05 pm - flag comment
are Z n baby Shi w/Angie n Maddox in Vietnam 2? am confused hehe
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I don’t think so. If that was the case People magazine would have report it. People said only Angie and Maddox are there.
changing the boys name is a wrong move and all of you know it. the only valid explantion i can think of is she’s making sure all of her accessories match!
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tomanykids Says:
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It’s a shame that your parents don’t love you.
oh please says that was good,this loser needs some loving he he he he
who are you to say they have too many kids? unless you are paying their bills don’t worry about it. don’t worry be happy.
Izzie- I thought they said survivor was changed to weds. this week but it wasn’t on. I hate how they have the tribes divided this round.
changing his name is not wrong. now what?
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Amaya Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:57 pm - flag comment
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Could please share your blog info with me. I love that clip of Stephen offering his service.
Viacom should be ashamed of themseleves for making YouTube remove it and others.
Thanks
Lady G
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Izzie Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:01 pm - flag comment
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KrUnG kRuNg Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:34 pm - flag comment
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can any1 answer me please? was the show “Survivor” on yesterday? it usually starts at 7pm, i looked 4 it at CBS but i sure don’t c it, did i missed it, ne1, please answer me pronto, thanx
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No, it wasn’t on. In past years, it has been on the Wednesday prior to the NCAA tournament, but not this year.
Do you like the new format of having one tribe living w/nothing and the other living with all of the luxurious items?
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yes, i liked it. i know survivor comes on thursdays now at 7pm CT, but i think if i remember it ryt, lastweek it said that they will air survivor this week only on wednesday 4 some reason i dunno mayb the basketball n i looked last night n it wasn’t on? oh heck, whatevah, moving on now 2 Pax Thien Jolie/Pitt, he’s a cutie patootie isn’t he n he looks like Maddox 2, aycaramba…
If they are so damn happy together why don’t they get married and show a child what a real close family union is about?
Some of the people that are writing the negative comments are recognizable ___’s fans. They are around to stir up the negatives, they are not interested in the welfare of the JPs
Re the name change –
For all we know, Pax’s name change might be official but not used for every day right now. Or maybe they’ll ease him into it, and start by using Pax and Sang interchangeably. He’s got a new family now, which he will forever be a part of. With that, does come a new identity.
However, for all we know, the JPs might still refer to him as Sang. ‘Sang’ might just become his nickname, or his ‘unofficial’ first name - one that he uses most often - while on his passport and official docs he will be Pax Thien Jolie Pitt. Just like Brad’s birth certificate reads ‘William Bradley Pitt’ - but he doesn’t go by William. Pax Thien Jolie Pitt might not go by Pax, either. It’s a wait and see kind of deal.
I just realized something….Angie has had two significant others named William. LOL
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Jules Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:17 pm - flag comment
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So they should get married for idiots like you…..right.
Please you and losers like you will still whine about something. I am glad they live their lives on their own term and not by what bigots and such decree!
Lady G, Viacom sucks! Damn Redstone.
Here’s my blog
http://amayasoky.blogspot.com
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Jules Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:17 pm - flag comment
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None of your business.
Izzie says: was the show “Survivor” on yesterday?
Izzie, I belive after last weeks show they said the next NEW episode of Survivor will be on Wednesday, March 21st. So you’re good, and even if you watch American Idol it doesn’t come on until 9PM so you can still catch both.
It’s going to be a crazy week next week in our house because we are totally hooked on American Idol and Survivor and also Dancing with the Stars which starts next week too. Luckily Rob & Amber got voted off Amazing Race last week so we have our Sunday nights free again.
JULES: What will you ***** about next?
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Amaya Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 12:42 pm - flag comment
http://amayasoky.blogspot.com/
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Amaya,
Love your blog so far. I’ll have to finish watching these videos after work, but you might have found a new blog visitor in me!
What the haters are probably grousing about is the fact that this child and all the Jolie-Pitt children are all going to be millionaires when the time comes. It’s like hitting the lottery when you become adapted not only by the J-P’s but by every rich celeb or non-celeb there is.
These kids will get all the perks and privileges that come with the territory while their kids will be moaning about the unfairness of it all. They will be asking how come they were born with parents who do nothing but moan and b..tch about their lot in life instead of going out there and trying to make something out of themselves.
Too many kids, yes…for you haters who can’t afford it. For the J-P’s it’s fine…there’s still plenty to go around! And that’s what’s got your spleens exploding with hate and envy!!
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Amaya Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:22 pm - flag comment
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Thank you, thank your for the link to your blog.
I don’t understand why people are so critical of AJ? The name thing is a personal choice and I’m sure they’ve thought it out thoroughly.
My sister (and the rest of us kids) thought her name was Sandy until they started calling her by real name in Kindergarten. I know of other kids where this happens as well where a child uses a nickname for the first few years then gets a ‘new’ name when they start school. Unless the child has been horribly traumatized in the past, he’ll do fine. Kids are very adaptable. A lot more than adults and lot more than we give them credit for.
And what’s up with the concern over Shiloh and her being surrounded by the United Nations? You HATERS can’t understand why a couple capbable of making blond haired, blue-eyed children would want to parent children of color. That just shows you how much the Jolie-Pitts (and a lot of other families) are above YOU. All of the Jolie kids are beautiful and well loved. A white child with blonde hair and blue eyes isn’t any more valuable and lovable than Asian, African, and Indian children. If you think so keep your Aryan, Nazi superiority complex to yourselves.
I hope they adopt a lot more children of color.
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susie Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:14 pm - flag comment
Izzie- I thought they said survivor was changed to weds. this week but it wasn’t on. I hate how they have the tribes divided this round.
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Hi there! I’ve been coming in and out while at the office. My hubby was looking for Survivor too last night. The division of the tribes seems so unfair to me. How can that losing team ever compete on equal footing? They are just getting picked off s l o w l y.
What a great day for BAMPZS fans…. That young boy looks like such a sweetheart.
toomany kids if u think its wrong, call angie don’t rant here on the blog site , she’s not reading it………even though u are a tool…but plss… go call her about ur foolish accusation, ur opinion won’t matter here.
jules, are u a priest , judge or minister? or devil’s advocate? , why u are telling it here,call brad and angie, its ur opinion but these people in the blog are angie or brad’s relative? they only way they, u might hv to call them, since those people hv a busy life than reading or knowing theres a blog for them.
When we immigrated to this country, my parents gave me an English name on paperwork. Thank goodness! No one in my school at the time would have been able to pronounce my real name. Having the easier English name made me blend in more. I was not confused. I did not think my parents did it because they liked the “designer” name. I knew of other immigrant kids who kept their native names and I remembered feeling bad for them when people struggled with the pronounciation. My parents continue to call me by my real name, but pretty much everyone else calls me by my English name. I know who I am. Now having grown up, I am grateful for being able to have the life I have in this country. And if my new name signaled that in, I am happy to answer to it.
Undoubtedly the first few months will be a bit tough for Pax. But he is not yet 4 and children adapt quickly and happily as long as they are safe from harm, loved and cared for. He’s far luckier than all the other orphans who are not adopted in the same orphan - who also don’t have new names BTW.
Best wishes always to BAMPZS.
Lalo, thanks for your contribution. Most immigrants have to undergo name change to fit into the new countries. Not a big deal! Angelina has travelled vastly and people with open minds can learn a lot from her experience.
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creativegirl Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:26 pm - flag comment
Izzie says: was the show “Survivor” on yesterday?
Izzie, I belive after last weeks show they said the next NEW episode of Survivor will be on Wednesday, March 21st. So you’re good, and even if you watch American Idol it doesn’t come on until 9PM so you can still catch both.
It’s going to be a crazy week next week in our house because we are totally hooked on American Idol and Survivor and also Dancing with the Stars which starts next week too. Luckily Rob & Amber got voted off Amazing Race last week so we have our Sunday nights free again.
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Hey Creativegirl - Thanks for the information. I haven’t been watching Dancing with Stars but one of my coworkers does. So she gives me recaps of that show. I get AI recaps from a radio station that I listen to on my way to work. (My hubby is a remote control hog). This is my second season of Amazing Race, and I love it. Oddly enough, I am actually rooting for the Beauty Queens. I was dancing with joy when Rob-n-Amber got eliminated last week. I thought Amber was really a royal B when she lied to The Cousins about the clue. Then, to watch them get eliminated was sweet.
Speaking of dancing, where is Guli?
are Z n baby Shi w/Angie n Maddox in Vietnam 2? am confused hehe
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According to AP, yes the girls are with her.
Nice. The leave the girls in the hotel room by themselves. Someone needs to give those kids to Jen quickly.
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bluemoon Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:55 pm - flag comment
are Z n baby Shi w/Angie n Maddox in Vietnam 2? am confused hehe
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Yes but according to People and Times mag they are not. Some reports also said that Brad is with her but he is not. So nobody really knows.
I really think that only Maddox and Angie are there.
i have a friend, she’s in her early 30’s n recently she changed her name from Byant 2 Michelle n Bryant is now her middle name, the reason y she changed her name 2 Michelle bcuz her husband’s 1st name starts w/a letter M n so is her twin girls, so, she felt like she’s the only 1 in the family who’s name don’t start w/a letter M so all of them now have M’s on their 1st names hehe…
Wow Angelina is soooo selfish? She actually changed her shoes this morning and low and behold, she had the nerve to change her clothes! From the look on the kids face you can tell he is soo upset because his name has been changed. In fact Shiloh and Z are upset too because Angelina let Mad choose the name. Shiloh was going for Little Bunny FooFoo and Z wanted to call him triple X. They are at home now crying their eyes out while they shop on Ebay for designer diapers and bracelets! And you know what else, the little boy will be devastated because he will have to learn English! Why won’t Angie learn Vietnamese and then they can understand each other?
It would have been better if Brad and Angie let _ and CCX pick the name because after all he owes them something- Especially Jen because he should have stayed with her until he was put in a straight jacket and padded room-You haters are beyond mentally ill-you are plain pathetic
From the Hollywood Reporter (AP).
HO CHI MINH CITY - Angelina Jolie adopted her fourth child Thursday, a Vietnamese boy from a Ho Chi Minh City orphanage.
Government officials said the boy was renamed Pax Thien Jolie and is almost three-and-a-half years old.
“Thank you for taking such wonderful care of my son,” the Oscar-winning actress wrote in the visitors’ book of the Tam Binh orphanage. “I am sure he will miss your beautiful, caring staff as much as you will miss him,” she added.
The adoption will be final once U.S. embassy officials in Hanoi approve the paperwork for the child to travel to the United States. Jolie and Vietnamese officials have already signed adoption documents in Ho Chi Minh City.
Senior officials said Jolie’s adoption had been speeded up, partly due to her celebrity status. She filed papers in early March, although she visited last November. The length of time it takes to adopt in Vietnam varies, with an average of about six months.
Orphanage director Nguyen Van Trung said the boy had been abandoned at birth at a local hospital and has been at the orphanage since 2003.
He cried when Jolie came to the orphanage.
Bui Thi Bich Tuyen, the woman who took care of the boy there said, “he’s just like the other children but maybe a bit more dynamic. He is shy with new people, he always cries.”
Jolie took the boy with her to the Justice Department building in the city center to sign the adoption documents. Her car left half an hour later.
A witness said she wore a black T-shirt and black pants.
“She was very beautiful. She signed and had her photo taken,” department official Dao Van Tran said outside the building.
Jolie has two adopted children and a biological daughter with partner Hollywood star Brad Pitt.
She flew into the southern Vietnamese city formerly called Saigon on Wednesday night from Japan on a chartered plane. Her son Maddox and daughters Zahara and Shiloh Nouvel accompanied her.
Jolie, 31, filed adoption papers in early March through an unidentified American agency without Pitt because under the law in Vietnam an unmarried couple cannot adopt a child, while a single person can.
Jolie and Pitt visited Ho Chi Minh City last November and met children at the orphanage.
The couple say they have no plans to marry but are committed to raising their children together. Their biological daughter, Shiloh Nouvel, was born last year. Jolie adopted Maddox from Cambodia and Zahara from Ethiopia before her relationship with Pitt, who has now become their adoptive father.
The couple starred in the 2005 movie “Mr. & Mrs. Smith”.
They are also working together on the film “A Mighty Heart” about the killing of a U.S. journalist by Pakistani militants.
Jolie won an Oscar in 1999 for best supporting actress in “Girl, Interrupted”. She starred in the 2001 movie “Lara Croft: Tomb Raider” which was filmed in Cambodia, neighboring Vietnam.
Angelina Jolie brought home her fourth child on Thursday from the Vietnam orphanage where he has lived since 2003.
According to Reuters, Jolie arrived at the Tam Bihn orphanage outside Ho Chi Minh City with her 5-year-old son Maddox and the pair were greeted by roughly 20 children dressed in traditional Vietnamese tunics, and offering flowers.
Before leaving with her new son, Pax Thien Jolie, the actress left a message in the orphanage visitor’s book.
“Thank you for taking such wonderful care of my son,” she wrote. “He has been with you for years. I’m sure he will miss your beautiful caring staff as much as you will miss him.”
The three-and-a-half-year-old boy was known at the orphanage as Pham Quang Sang before Jolie renamed him.
According to the orphanage’s director, Nguyen Van Trung, “He’s the smartest and cleverest among the kids.”
“I was a bit worried in the morning,” Trung admitted to Us. “When Sang saw Jolie and two of her big bodyguards, he moved back and cried. Jolie kneeled down and gradually went closer to him. It took about 20 minutes for her to reach him.”
He added that “after Jolie made acquaintance with him, he cheered up and trusted her right away.”
Maddox also attempted to soothe the child by holding his hand. Trung says that while Sang was crying as he was carried into the car, having Maddox on hand was a relief.
“It’s lucky to have the presence of her other son [Maddox] who was very friendly to Sang,” Trung tells Us
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tomanykids Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:59 pm - flag comment
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You’re one of those. The egg has hatched it’s time for him to come home, people.
I take that back, you don’t need your parents love. They need to btichslap you upside the head and downside the other.
Angelina left the boy’s fraternal twin brother at the orphanage. He is standing Next to PAX dressed in a blue matching outfit. Sources say the workers att he Orphanage dressed them alike with hopes that she would changed her mind and take both of them. The looks on their faces tell the complete story.
Can’t you just see this in L&S next week
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Queen Bee Says:
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Why don’t you adopt from the USA and let Angie and others adopt from wherever they see fit! If you are so concerned about it, you should do something instead of criticizing what others do.
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tomanykids Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:59 pm - flag comment
Nice. The leave the girls in the hotel room by themselves. Someone needs to give those kids to Jen quickly.
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LMAO!
Jen would roll those kids up like a joint and smoke ‘em!
Yes but according to People and Times mag they are not. Some reports also said that Brad is with her but he is not. So nobody really knows.
I really think that only Maddox and Angie are there.
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I know, I’m just saying what AP print, because well AP is more accurate than some tabloids, but who knows. The only sure thing is that Brad is not there.
I just saw the video from the dailymail and the razzis are totally crazy, I hope the hotel security can do the best job they can to keep them under control.
queen bee you are a racist ignorant fool. a child in need from anywhere on earth should be helped not just from here. your fake concern for children here fools no one, it was just your way to show your racist ass attitude.
Congratulations to Angie and Brad on their newest addition. I think soon they’ll be adopting another African child to make everything even. May God Bless them and their family.
The reason so many are picking on the name change issue of this adoption is because they can’t find anything else in this glorious news. Now they “too many children”? LOL!!!! That person is so out of the loop in regards to Brad & Angelina’s wishes for a large family. I can easily see three more children in that family. I must agree with something mentioned on other Brad & Angelina forums; I agree that Brad will be a better father to his children than Jon Voight was to his.
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tomanykids Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:09 pm - flag comment
changing the boys name is a wrong move and all of you know it. the only valid explantion i can think of is she’s making sure all of her accessories match!
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the only thing I know right now is that “you are a waste of time.” although I’m certain some will continue giving you attention, i’m really hoping that most wont. let the stragglers get it off their chest if they must, but trust that you WILL soon be ignored by most if not all. you’ve been on stage for the better part of the day, and I know I’m tired of your act and I think it’s time for your show to close.
here’s hoping that others follow my lead and bypass for the rest of this thread the insignifigant babbeling coming from tomanykids.
Pax Thien. I love the name though. and i love the fact it has beautiful meaning. Angie n Brad never failed in giving beautiful name to their children. btw, I vote for BAMPZS for no reason :)
Who would have ever thought just under two years ago when Brad and angie picked up Z that Angie would ever be off by herself picking up their newest member of the family. I tseemedn then like they would always do everything together. So sad that Brad had to work. Obviously shows how important the family is. Hope that when Angie has her next natural baby in Africa that Brad won’t be to busy to show!
Looks like they are going to live their life as Brad and Jennifer did. Each doing their own thing. Jen was quoted by the tabloids a few months back as saying that Brad would be sorry when he was stuck at home and she was off adopting some child. Guess she was right. Man she must be feeling so good right now. Laughing her head off.
Wouldn’t it be much easier for her just to give the orphanages millions and promote adoptions through all her wealthy friends by having Hollywood donation parties and stuff like that?
SAM: Getting really desperate for attention, aren’t you SYBIL?
Looks cute. I just hope Jolie does it with good and pure intentions. May seem as a toy collection for rich and famous
I suggest we all bask in the happiness that we deserve today!
Ignore the HHH = HIRED HANDS OF HUVANE.
Peace -
#220 Rockin Pax
Well said Rockin. Too funny.
MARITZA: How exactly would that work?
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sam Says:
oh you wish ….Sam.
gotta love the haters!
when grasping for straws, attack the great act of adopting orphans!
idiots!
welcome pax - love your name. peace!
regina what are you like a 5th grader? i hope that an adult wouldn’t hope that a man would take on of his children and leave the others behind. get a hobby and try to be productive.
max=sam
At least, don’t follow your other personality with a like name.
I know, you don’t have two active brain cells to rub together, so that’s a real hard thing to grasp.
OH PLEASE: I guess this is when it starts getting entertaining. When she starts a dialogue with herself. How pathetic and needy.
sam when you have more than one kid sometimes parents time will be divided, so maybe brad stayed home with the girls rather than put them through long flights and maybe he figured he had the rest of his life with his son. and if jennifer said Brad would be sorry stuck at home while angelina is off adopting, then she is a ***** and should get a life and move on b/c brad and angelina have moved on. and if you think she is happy today while they add on to their family i would bet you are very, very wrong. her ass got dumped.
WHY DO ORPHANGE OFFICALS HAVE TO GIVE OUT SO MUCH DETAILS before the child is safely away from the orphanage? This orphanage director is speaking all the way from Aouth Africa (that’s how much he likes to run his mouth) giving details about breakfast to which hotel in the city Angie and the kids will be spending the weekend?
She probably has a Vietamese person there translating and helping them all to adjust. this is bonding time. Not to be able to take a walk in the grounds with the kids for fear of the paps is realy a shame.
Angie travelled from Japan to Vietnam in a private jet. Before she arrived, he announced that she was coming. That gave all the papps time to converge. Noone would probably have know they were in Vietnam, had it not been for this man seeking to advertise his orphanage. I know he needs to get funding and more adoptions, but he is helping to jeopardizie their safety, with people throwing things under the vehicle to stall it and prevent it from moving.
I could have waited for the news and the pix until after the child arrived in the States and met his new family.
http://www.news4jax.com/entertainment/11260195/detail.html
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2007-03-15-jolie-kids-names_N.htm
(read it and weep haters - oh my bad - mentally challenged posters, especially the part about BP’s adopting the kids)
Jolie at peace with kids’ names
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Pitt and Jolie took Maddox, 5, left, and Zahara, 2, sightseeing in India in November.
By Karen Thomas, USA TODAY
Maddox is growing to be among the most popular baby names for boys.
Is Pax next?
Angelina Jolie’s adoption of a Vietnamese boy she named Pax Thien Jolie was finalized Thursday, and the actress is due to bring him to the USA next week. Jolie is in the country with her Cambodian-born son Maddox, 5, while the multicultural family patriarch, Brad Pitt, stays in the USA with daughters Zahara, 2, and Shiloh, 10 months.
Pitt is under contract to be filming in Los Angeles, and he is expected to formally adopt Pax.
Nguyen Van Trung, director of the orphanage, told the Associated Press about the boy’s day: “This morning, he woke up at 6, just like all the children. He put on new clothes, and he was very excited.”
But the trip wasn’t free of turmoil. Trevor Neilson, Jolie’s international affairs adviser, said Jolie complained of paparazzi swarming their van. Pax has been described by Vietnamese adoption officials as a little bit shy.
Jolie’s new addition opens up another option for expecting parents looking for a name. Today’s young parents are “much more likely to name their children after a celebrity’s child, and not after a celebrity,” says Linda Rosenkrantz, co-author of The Baby Name Bible. “Just a couple of generations ago, there was no interest in knowing the names of stars’ children or following celebrity pregnancies.”
Rosenkrantz says it looks as if Jolie and Pitt have some clear patterns forming in the names they choose for their children.
Jolie has said that the couple would like to balance the races their family with two Asian children and two African children. “They seem to be going in an all-embracing way in terms of gender, meaning and balance,” she says. The couple have chosen several unisex names for their children, and they have also moved toward recognizing their children’s heritage or heroes with middle names.
A look at the meanings behind the names in the Jolie-Pitt clan:
•Pax Thien, 3: The Vietnamese boy’s name was changed Thursday from Pham Quang Sang, and his new name means “peaceful sky” in two languages. Pax means “peace” in Latin; Thien is Vietnamese for “sky.” Rosenkrantz says Pax is a rarely used moniker, though its Spanish version (Paz) is much more common. The boy was born in November 2003 and was abandoned as an infant.
•Maddox Chivan, 5: Jolie was married to Billy Bob Thornton in 2002 when she adopted her first child, a Cambodian-born son named Rath Vibol. Maddox is a Celtic or Welsh name meaning “beneficent,” but Chivan has no origin, says Rosenkrantz. “It’s a name that certainly has not been used in the last century.” Pitt formally adopted Mad (that’s what they call him) in 2006.
•Zahara Marley, 2: Born Tena Adam, Zahara means “flower” in Swahili and “to shine” in Hebrew. Marley comes from reggae singer Bob Marley, a name Rosenkrantz says is popular for both boys and girls. Zahara was adopted in Ethiopia in 2005 after she was orphaned by AIDS, and the couple refer to her as “Z.” Pitt was with Jolie when she signed the adoption papers, and he formally adopted Zahara last year.
•Shiloh Nouvel, 10 months: Jolie gave birth to the couple’s youngest daughter in the African country of Namibia. Of Hebrew origin, Shiloh means “peaceful one,” and Rosenkrantz says it is a name that’s catching on for both sexes. The middle name is a homage to Jean Nouvel, a famous French architect who is among Pitt’s favorites.
I am finding it REALLY hard to believe Zahara was born Tena Adam.
Such an English/American name for a girl born in an Ethiopian orphanage.
I would think something more Amharik (sp) - the Ethiopian language.
Anyone know her true birth name?
PS: Like Marcheline Betrand did for her kids, the Jolie-Pitts are giving their kids middle names that can be used as last names in the future in case they don’t want the so public and visible last names of Jolie-Pitt in the future - makes sense.
Although Marley will be as equally well recognized……
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ghgh Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 2:50 pm - flag comment
he looks like the same kid. what the ***** up with that?
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What exactly does this mean, Sherlock?
Lol, I feel like I’m the one that just adopted!! Very exciting. Congrats to BAMPZS (love it!)!!!!! Pax is a cutie, and a very lucky little boy. Hope he adjusts quickly, though I’m sure Mad will make him feel at home in no time :)
bdj- thanks for the post. I have always wanted to know their birth names. I love all of Band A’s kids names. They are really beautiful.
whateva- RRFYL!!!just ignore them, they like the rise. :)
On the question of language I have noticed 2 things: Immigrants living in a new country keep their accents regardless of how long after they live in their adopted country if they arrive sometime in their 20’s, and, as long as you are no older than a teenager you WILL learn the language of your adopted country no worse than someone being born there. I met a Danish guy in Europe who once lived a year in Michigan when he was 17 and he spoke exactly as if he had allways lived there. I wonder if the media will follow these kids’ lives into their teen and adult years. I am curious how they turn out. I wish only the best for their family but while they have a lot going for them they also have some things going agaisnt them. When I see someone like Barrack Obama as the new face of our society I feel high hopes for this family.
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sam Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 2:21 pm - flag comment
Who would have ever thought just under two years ago when Brad and angie picked up Z that Angie would ever be off by herself picking up their newest member of the family. I tseemedn then like they would always do everything together. So sad that Brad had to work. Obviously shows how important the family is. Hope that when Angie has her next natural baby in Africa that Brad won’t be to busy to show!
Looks like they are going to live their life as Brad and Jennifer did. Each doing their own thing. Jen was quoted by the tabloids a few months back as saying that Brad would be sorry when he was stuck at home and she was off adopting some child. Guess she was right. Man she must be feeling so good right now. Laughing her head off.
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What it looks like, and what it is comes down to two distinctly different things. You want to see a life lived where Brad’s not envolved. Where Angelina is running the show and Pitt is unhappy and pining for the past, and his reason for not being with Angelina in Viet Nam is a deliberate move on his part. That would be the delousional view.
Now if you want to see things as they are, such as Brad’s explained absence due to contract requirements predating an adoption thought to take longer, and his contractial obligations that require Brad Pitt’s onset presence for what is a $150million dollar project. OR the that Angelina is the adopter until further notice, and until further notice, Brad Pitt is emotionally, but not yet legally bound to this child.
If you choose to see things as they are, you will see the whole picture; the entire history of the couple and their devotion to one another as well as their children into the true view of the situation instead of taken this isolated moment in time to judge the whole by.
This is the real picture, “Brad & Angelina are together and committed to each other and their children, and they are to the point of rarely being apart accept for rare exceptions.” What you paint is not the one you paint. Their reality can be backed up, and your take on things can’t, and especially when you are sadly relying on words your admittedly read in a tabloid.
Honey, Jennifer can’t think of anything worse than 4 kids under 5 from different countries. I am sure that she thinks that Brad is crazy now and so happy that he didn’t force her into this kind of life. All these kids and then moving from home to home following him around on movie sets. No place to call home, Jennifer would hate that. That is why she filled for divorce. I am so thankful as a fan that she didn’t get caught in this trap. She understands that work is more important to Brad than family I am sure that is why she never had children with him. And he is showing that so obviously now with Angie having to go by herself to their child. He fooled angie for a little while. But I am sure that she understands how important work is right now as things are going quite badly in the moive business for him.
Brad’s career is slipping. angie’s last film did not do well. In fact terrible. I am sure he is worried about AMH. His Jesse James is not getting released. It was filmed at the same time as TGS and no date yet. God grew tired of us did very badly, making next to nothing, even though they both attended the lauch of the film. Of course Oceans will do well becuase of George and Matt. Babel only had 33 million in the US very poor for an Oscar film. Even with Brad and nominated for an Oscar really poor money. I realize that he is concerned, but don’t you think that he could at least go to pick up and welcome this new member. Obviously business is more important to him. But that’s OK he makes sure that he is always with the most important member of his family. His real child. Won’t see him leaving her much. He always seems to be where she is.
jennifer is living a good life with friends and business. Staying out the limelight. And believe me she is laughing at this circus along with all her friends. They will all be making fun of Brad and what a mess he is in. the tabloids might play this up but inside hollywood they will be making fun of this couple you can bet.
should we start guessing where the next child will come from. I say Africa so Z has someone to look at! Now think that Brad might make it to pick this one up or is Angie going it all alone again? Only time will tell. I think that you guys should start guessing now though don’t you!
Zee and Shiloh are not in Vietnam, they are in LA. AP depends on local stringers. Vietnam is not used to nutty paps and international media. Remember all the confusion out of India when all kinds of stories were printed and reported, many that directly contradicted each other.
ROTFLMAO! Sam, now watch, max will follow with I totally agree with you. Just make sure to watch that you change your name before you agree with yourself.
Oh, sam does it hurt when you fall on your lofty sword so many times. Does it? Nothing you have hoped for has come to pass. Nothing. And yet, here you are with the same drivel. Does it hurt to be so stupid? Does it?
Aniston is a speck now and you know it. I smell the whiff of desperation.
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sam Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
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I agree, the next adoption will be in Africa. I hope Chad.
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Adopt me Brad!!!! Oh, that would be all kinds of wrong.
Nevermind.
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bdj Says:
Thanks. Great accurate article in USA Today because they do their homework. Zee and Shiloh in LA with Brad.
Inside Edition had video of Angelina and Mad, Pax pix, said Pax joins an A-list Hollywood family.
Here is my guess, given my observation of kids, Pax maybe play more with Z than Mad.
I find older kids get easily bored with younger siblings so Mad may find himself advanced and quite the schoolboy and thus Pax may bond more quickly with Zee.
Anyway, my cousins kids created that dynamic - the 6 year old thinks he is too sophisticated to play with the Pre-K kids!
Either way, can’t wait for the first pixx of all of them together.
Hope Ange and Brad give us an official pic a la pics of Shiloh for People. That would be awesome!
SAM: How big is that scar from your lobotomy?
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sam Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 3:01 pm - flag comment
Honey, Jennifer can’t think of anything worse than 4 kids under 5 from different countries. I am sure that she thinks that Brad is crazy now and so happy that he didn’t force her into this kind of life. All these kids and then moving from home to home following him around on movie sets.
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I agree, what with follow up nose job visits. Kids get in the way. You don’t want one of those baby formula hands hitting your botched up honker by accident.
She’s smart for choosing otherwise.
Sam: I would response to that craziness you just posted but I have to go to the gym but while I’m out, I’ll pick up a donut seat for you b/c you are about to get your **** chewed out by the great posters here at JJ…who know the facts of the matter unlike you. Guys but gentle on the nut job!
How many times has Brad said he wanted a huge family? How many times has Angelina said she wanted a huge family?
Has anyone seen Guli? I would love to hear what the mayor thinks about the new acronym. So far BAMPZS seems to be the favorite.
A friend of mine adopted a three-year-old boy in Latin America, the boy’s name was Jesus. That name is very common in Latin America, but since the child was going to live in Germany and the States, they decided to change his name. They didn’t want the boy getting teased at school. Can you imagine? “Here comes the Messiah, the savior!”. The boy is now a teenager and doing great, he no longer speaks Spanish but is fluent in German and English.
The first couple of months were hard, especially because of the language and how different the food was. But little kids at that age can adapt quickly and be very happy in their new homes with their new families.
You really are out there if you think their careers are in trouble. He produced Departed, and won the Oscar. Jen is doing guest spots on Dirt. I love how now the haters have changed their position to “she divorced him cuz of his career.” Before it was, Angie stole him. Or Brad dumped her for Angie. Which one is it? The only has been is Maniston. Me thinks you are reading way to much into Brad not being there to get Pax. You are really reaching, aren’t you? Out of curiousity, why are you still hanging out here on this thread? Wouldn’t you be more comfortable spending hours and hours with people who share the same views as you? Why don’t you go drink some maragaritas and scream at the ocean over the injustice of it all.
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ITAWY. The head of the orphanage is still talking. I know he enjoys the attention and it is probably good publicity for the orphanage and Vietnam, but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
It is the best thing possible that the adoption was sped up because the massive amount of info being given out is somewhat frightening. All the paps have been alerted, and droves of them are now in Vietnam, hunting for that elusive million dollar pix of Angelina, Mad, and little Pax. I am so happy Mickey is on duty, he will protect them.
What is so sad is that when they picked up Zee they were not even recognized in Ethopia. They were able to visit twice in two weeks and nothing leaked. Contrast that peaceful situation in 2005 with the situation in Vietnam in 2007 where bodyguards are a necessity.
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bdj Says:
love that usatoday article… thanks for posting it….
cheers.
Hey just realized his middle name (birth middle name ) was Quang and I voted for Quang as a middle name. i was right! Yeah. Telepathic!
Cool.
all you haters can piss off love you angelina.
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1234 Says
you have a little pent up anger there… Jennifer??
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1234 Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 3:32 pm - flag comment
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Go back to bed and wake up on the right side of it.
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1234 Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 3:32 pm - flag comment
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Why are you adopting a latin baby?
Who are you tell anyone who and where they should adopt.
As for talking about God, you should know that he loves all children and only cares that they are being loved and cared for.
So before trying to use him to bash Angie, you need to check yourself and come at it correctly!
1234: Don’t worry. They still have plenty of room for a Latin baby. I am sure they will appreciate your eloquent suggestion.
Oh just wait until Brad files the papers in LA to adopt Paz.I shudder to think of how these haters will be flipping out!I wonder do they realize how much time and energy the waste hating on this couple?
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Lady G Says:
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1234 Says:
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Why are you adopting a latin baby?
typo it should read…..
Why aren’t you adopting a latin baby?
I meant I wonder how much time and energy THEY waste hating on this couple.
My goodness Angelina fans, stop all this bickering back n forth. I am no moderator, but the topic is about Pax and how he now has a family. Do not let these baiters steer you from what should be a happy discussion about Angelina and her new son. It just boils my skin that you guys would rather scoop to the same low level as the people who bait you instead of talking about this joyous time.
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Keeping it real Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 3:43 pm - flag comment
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So, what part of they never dated don’t you understand? Both she and CF have said it. Oh, wait. That’s not in your game plan, so therefore they did.
Is it hard to have that much air up there?
it just means they lok the same geez. Croft, you over analyzed my words. I meant thats what they want right? so he doesnt feel alone. They just look hella lot a like.
#284 keeping it real,Thank you for confirming the fact you are obsessed with Angelina.You need help!Yesterday you spent over 7 hours hating on this woman and yet you call us crazy?I think not!Everyday you come here with quotes and interviews that you must spend ALOT of time finding.WHY?Is it to feed your obsession?
Geez, they really are foaming at the mouth, I guess the final nail in the coffin did the trick…. I’ll ignoe :-)
My bubbly is chilling in the frig and the idiots won’t deter me from enjoying this wonderful occasion… :lol:
Tijen, so what’s for dinner any Turkish food?
#285 Jessica,So true!Everyone ignore keeping it real.
Maddox n Pax r look alike no? mayb their twins, aycaramba
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Debbie Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 3:52 pm - flag comment
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Hate the game, not the players.
Hey ‘tomanykids’ why don’t you grab a dictionary and realize that ‘to’ is actually spelled ‘too’, when implying that she has more than enough kids. Sheesh, and you wonder why Angelina AND Brad changed their new son’s name to Pax. It’s because they realize that their children will be surrounded by illiterate idiots like you most of their lives and they were trying to make things easier for THEIR CHILDREN. You probably think Pham is pronounced ‘pam’, and not ‘fam’ TOO!
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The real lou Says:
Didnt I tell ya??
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Debbie Says: Your ‘friends’ (you have friends?!) are probably trying to adopt a baby, whereas if they were openminded enough to adopt a 3 year old they would probably have a child by now.
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Keeping it real Says:
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The real lou Says:
Didnt I tell ya??
you don’t have to tell us we know, you are obsessed with Angelina.
Hope the US part of the adoption is as smooth a process as the Vietnam part was for Angelina. Pax will need a medical exam as part of the US process, and Angelina may need to go to Hanoi to the US Consulate there to complete the adoption and get Pax’s passport/visa so he can leave Vietnam. So glad Mad is there with his lil Bro.
can’t wait 4 the entertainment shows 2night, awww, this is so xciting…..
dewfall
I believe I have an opinion just as everyone else whether you agree with it or not. I don’t agree with some of these blogs but I don’t send hate mail back. You need a Prozac or some serious anger management. It’s just an OPINION. Jeezzz….
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sam Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 3:01 pm - flag comment
Honey, Jennifer can’t think of anything worse than 4 kids under 5 from different countries.
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EUREKA!!!! Finally you get it! This is why Brad had to move on. This Citizen of the World as he calls himself now because he gets to be one finally did good if he got Jen travel to Santa B. instead of only going between 90210 and whatevah Malibu’s zip is. He stayed put? his ONLY kids would be named Norman and Dolly and its doubtful we’d ever get any cool pap pic’s of Jane Pitt walking THOSE kids.
Yep, Jen made the right choice alright. Tan tan tan, dinner every other night at Cort -n- Dave’s, Goddess Circle day bash’s at NoBu boo hoo. Yeah, her life is really on the upswing and a blast and all because SHE decided? Do ya need a bridge?
I like BAMZSP. But either way it works for me.
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tomanykids needs a dictionary Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 4:00 pm - flag comment
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Debbie Says: Your ‘friends’ (you have friends?!) are probably trying to adopt a baby, whereas if they were openminded enough to adopt a 3 year old they would probably have a child by now.
WORD! and if they were openminded and chose a kid that didn’t look like them they probably could get an infant let alone an older one.
“Hey peeps. I guess the next issue now for the haters will be why change the boy’s name. I love the name unique & easy.”
Easy for who? Easy for the child who’s lived with the name every day of his three short years? Or easier for his new American parents because they’re obviously too lazy to learn how to spell it and pronounce it correctly?
Of course, adoption is a wonderful and should be encouraged. But changing that child’s name because they wanted one that sounded “cuter” is ridiculous!
Odd how these haters always seem to have so many friends trying to adopt! Are they aware of your crappy attitudes?
I’M SO EXCITED. NOTHING ANY HATER SAYS TODAY CAN TAKE THAT AWAY. WELCOME TO THE JOLIE-PITT HOUSEHOLD PAX THIEN JOLIE, SOON TO BE PAX THIEN JOLIE-PITT. MAY YOU HAVE A LONG AND WONDERFUL LIFE WITH THEM AND MAY YOUR DAYS BE FULL OF LAUGHTER AND JOY.
she looks like she’s about to keel over.
Angel H.Nobody here cares what you think. Why don’t you go on a Britney Spears thread, there is Mother you should concern yourself with.
next kid-another new letter, acronym-change again ’screwed with’ 2-sound-cool.
Brad & Angie, please adopt me. You can change my name everyday, I don’t care. I know I will be loved and cared for, and that’s the essential.
Angel, you are a load your momma should have swallowed.
Welcome pax in your new family.I wish you all the best in your new life. congratulations brad and angie with this new addition in your family.
viva la bampzs.
I hope this adoption will open up a discussion on families who have adopted internationally. This would be a perfect opportunity to interview other regular people all over the country who have done the same as Angelina. I just heard on a local news station one snarky reporter who questions the motives on the adoption. She feels thatn Angelina is trying to vill a void in her life. Then she processed to ask people to call in with “their thoughts” on the happy news. Many people called in and applauded Angelina and proceeded to let the reporter know of their international adoptions. It was great. Some were adopting their 3rd & fourth child from China. Girls were especially in need of being adopted because in China, boys are preferred so girls are put up for adoption. Also there is still a one child rule in China. It was so informative. This is the kind of discussion we need to have. The reporter’s sidekick, an NY journalist said his nephew is adopted and there is no difference in how he see’s him. But the b*tch female reporter found a comrade in snark after about 6 calls. Some woman said that, yeah maybe Angelina was trying to fill a void. The reporter practically yelled in agreement. This, after all the previous heartwarming calls and wonderful stories from listeners sharing their happiness. She practically insulted them and delared them null, void & personas non grata with that response. the adoption stories were fantastic , though and wonder why the media doesn’t jump on this, international adoptions, as a viable story. Maybe Dateline, Nightline on CNN special report or something. It might inform many who are interested and may also warn of the pitfalls that are out there.
Guli-
It is tavuk, pilav, zeytinyagli pirasa, salata ve iyi bir pastahaneden alinmis cilekli kek ile cay.
Paula the Crotch: You’re a real ******, y’know that? But I guess it comes with the territory.
By the way, there are these lovely things called “punctuation marks”. Most of us learned about them in elementary school, but I guess you missed that lesson while out swallowing loads of your own. Shall I teach them to you?
CLINIQUA,
Happy Birthday.
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Of course it’s a great thing to adopt. I suppose the point is that you have the contrast of people who *live* a life of “gluttony” and then attempt to *preach* about living a life of giving to others. The “gluttony” is the several houses (how many now? 6? there’s 3 in LA, 1 in NO, 1 in Berlin, only 5?) (including the extreme costs etc, heat, water, lights…groundskeeping..on and on…) the gas guzzling SUV’s (yet Pitt is doing a “green” project) the nannies the rest of the paid entourage of security, assistants etc…
Do you people not find that wasteful?
Travelling to different countries for a photo-op then going back to your 5 star hotel does not a humanitarian make. Of course, there’s some attention brought to the issues - hopefully it will bring change. That’s not the point, the point is the hypocrisy.
The point is the hypocrisy.
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My post from the other thread - don’t get too riled up.
Didn’t you claim that your kids went to school with Maddox and that you also are a long time fan? Hmmmm, don’t know what Maddox looks like? Something smells here.
Yes, Angel! Please give me a lesson so I can be just like you. I figure all I need to be just like you is an additional 75 pounds, a moustache, and a flannel shirt! Am I right?
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sam Says:
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I love it when the hater fanistons show themselves for the racists they are. His “real child” — that’s what this jealous cretin calls Shiloh, while the other kids are reduced to disposables. That says it all. But it’s indicative of anyone who would be pals or fans of the middle aged tv sit-com hack. ;-)
I just HAD to cut and paste this part (below) though - it’s hilarious:
jennifer is living a good life with friends and business. Staying out the limelight. And believe me she is laughing at this circus along with all her friends. They will all be making fun of Brad and what a mess he is in. the tabloids might play this up but inside hollywood they will be making fun of this couple you can bet.
Er, why and how would they be ‘making fun,’ of something that they have always planned to do at the outset? You make no sense at all ya racist hater. Believe me, the Oscar winner and the Oscar winning producer who are the biggest hottest movie stars EVER are not being laughed at. I guarantee you the ONLY thing being laughed at is the no talent TV sit-com hack Maniston, who’s been pimping a guest starring role on a sh*tty about to be cancelled syndicated cable tv show, in between getting botoxed, rhinoplastied and restalyned into frozen suspended tranny-looking animation. She’s good for a sad chuckle onquite the regular basis…you can go from busting a gut over her fake relationship that got called out when her fat so-called boyfriend was caught diddling a co-ed named ‘Amber,’ to watching the sit-com hack self destruct from talking about the tabloid stories she herself is leaking to the press.
Now THAT, in short, is called A JOKE. Look it up in the dictionary and you’ll find Maniston’s face.
Wow @ Jennifer
Pax looks like his big brother maddox. God bless this Jolie-Pitt family. This blessed child is so lucky to be joining this home that is filled with so much love. The topping on the cake is to have parents who are DEEPLY IN LOVE and , they both love children. A child brings more love and happiness into this happy home.
God is good. Brad and Angie are rich, and are loving and caring people with a heart of gold. They should adopt as many kids as they want.
people that come here and say such terrible things about the Jolie-Pitts just want attention. Everyone knows that JJ has a huge community of Brad and Angelina fans . They can spout their BS on any other site without anyone challenging them. They come here because they know want attention and they t to fight.
BURLYGURL: Do you have a problem with all wealthy land owners, or just Brangelina?
PAULA THE CROTCH #321- LMAO!!!
Happy birthday Cliniqua. Thanks for the informative post, Frenchy.
Angel H.
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In case you’re really concerned and not just hating on this family for the sake of it: In my opinion, I think they’ll probably call him by his old name as well as his new name combined so that he gets used to hearing it. And then slowly they’ll either drop the old name or use it as a nickname… of course, this is just my opinion. Whatever they do, they know what they are doing and should be commended for opening their hearts to another little boy.
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poorpham Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 4:42 pm - flag comment
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Oh, another armchair psychologist. You need to up your dose.
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Debbie Says: Your ‘friends’ (you have friends?!) are probably trying to adopt a baby, whereas if they were openminded enough to adopt a 3 year old they would probably have a child by now.
Well thats where your assumptions make you an a** because that is not the case. Yeah your momma is a friend if you have one.
Oh please - as for your comment all I can say if they were respectible people they would get on a list like everyone else.
Thanks so much Premalee!! :-)
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burlygurl Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 4:37 pm - flag comment
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Brad & Angie are giving a better life to at least 3 kids that we know of (Mad, Z, and now Pax). I can’t say the same of me, you, or of most of the bloggers here. Sad soul, go find something more rewarding to do.
Ayyy chingow. I guess my speech didn’t work about ignoring the haters. Carry on!
P.S. Pax is such an adorable boy and I am glad he now has people who will love him unconditionaly.
Tijen, I haven’t had prasa this whole year, can I come, darn it you had to throw in zeytinyagli dolma…. :lol: :lol: Have a wonderful evening, great dinner with your friends. Hey whats the time diff 2 or 3 re EST?
ITA with #331 on poorpham. Sounds like this person is the one taking Paxil.
#319 burlygurl,You really need to quit.So Angelina and Brad are supposes to live in a hut just because they do charity work?Look at Bono’s,Oparah’s Bill Gates,Richard Bransens Many ,Many homes.You are on a witch hunt plain and simple.You don’t like Angelina so you will find fault with ANYTHING so does.BTW they didn’t buy a apartment in Berlin,that was a tabloid story.So they have 4 homes since you seem to keep track of people you claim not to like,lol.
Just because she changed his name on paper that does not mean they’re just going to forget the 3 years he was known as Pham quang or whatever. Of course they will call him by the name he knows at first, and then they will have to figure how to tell him he has a new cooler name. PAX Thien.
POORPHAM: So the people that take in 20 kids with disabilities, are they trying to cover up vulnerability? Angie doesn’t give one rat’s behind what people think. For that, I applaud her.
BURLYGURL - MY RESPONSE BACK TO YOU FROM THE OTHER THREAD - don’t you get too riled up now honey. ;-)
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burlygurl Says:
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Angelina and Brad don’t preach to anyone - their good acts speak volumes. If your work took you all over the world you would have more than one house too if you could afford it. And because of their security requirements they can’t just stay ‘anywhere’ like the rest of us. I didn’t realize that you were sitting in their living room counting up their entourage. Best as I can tell, they have one nanny, usually one bodyguard, and maybe an assistant. Angelina doesn’t even employ a publicist, though she does have a political advisor (which speaks volumes about what’s important to her). When they go out for coffee it’s usually just them and the kids. You’re hallucinating.
PS - my significant other is one of the ‘unsung heroes’ that you are preaching about, and yet I am able to still appreciate the efforts that Angelina and Brad are making as well. These causes need all the publicity they can get, and the fact remains that the spotlight would be on them no matter what they did. At least they are utilizing it for good. Too bad you can’t make that distinction.
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Debbie Says:
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tomanykids needs a dictionary Says:
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Oh please - as for your comment all I can say if they were respectible people they would get on a list like everyone else.
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They did. Maybe, something is wrong with your friends. Maybe, they’re the freaks.
And why don’t you get on the shortbus and don’t forget the helmut.
Happy birthday Cliniqua.
they aren’t chinese dumba–
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Whateva Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 4:42 pm - flag comment
BURLYGURL: Do you have a problem with all wealthy land owners, or just Brangelina?
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Only when wealthy land owners preach to the pubic (preach for whatever reason, you know, attention seeking, always having to *appear* as do-gooders and “look good”) and then turn around live a very different life behind the scenes.
What part about my point don’t you understand? It’s the hypocrisy, no matter who you are.
•Pax Thien, 3
•Maddox Chivan, 5
•Zahara Marley, 2
•Shiloh Nouvel, 10 months
All cool names.
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Jennifer Says:
You racist piece of ****! What does a chinese food have to do with a boy born in Cambodia and the other in Vietnam?
poorpham: Please correct the statement that she feels more love for the adopted kids, she never said that. Geez, get the quote right before spreading rumors.
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5678 Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 4:50 pm - flag comment
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FF getting boring?
Brad never went back to Aniston and he’s still with Angelina and their growing family.
Must suck trying to get over Brad Pitt. Unless, you’re Angelina, who’s over him, under him, etc.
Guli-
Come on over. We are three hours behind you guys. So it is just 3pm.
Jeez , don’t have an anxiety attack , this is an opinion, nothing more!
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burlygurl Says:
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You need to sit on your point and sit and spin.
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Debbie Says:
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Well I am quite sure there is some LOGICAL explanation as to why your friends don’t have a child yet and Angelina does (I didn’t realize you were privy to her adoption file honey). Perhaps your friends have something questionable in their past or where they are adopting from has a longer waiting list.
And it’s “respectable” sweetie - if you can’t spell it, how do you expect to live it sweetie?
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Lexi Says:
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If it looks like we don’t care about your opinion. It’s because we don’t.
Now, go stomp your foot elsewhere.
someone needs to step away from their computer!
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Lexi Says:
What the **** do you want us to do about it? Your bitchin is helping how?
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tomanykids needs a dictionary Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 4:48 pm - flag comment
BURLYGURL - MY RESPONSE BACK TO YOU FROM THE OTHER THREAD - don’t you get too riled up now honey.
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I have to say I appreciate your response - of course, I completely disagree, but at least it’s not name calling.
Paula the Crotch: Don’t forget the love of family, friends, and admirers; a job that involve flipping burgers and french fry oil; and a personal life that doesn’t revolve around celebrities. Add all of these and you’d be on your way. I wouldn’t hold my breath, though.
T&L: If you notice in my original post, I said that adoption is a wonderful thing. My only concern was confusing the child with his new name. Also, I do think that you’re probably right about them eventually crossing over to his new name. I hadn’t though of it that way.
But that whole “hating on this family for the sake of it” is just plain stupid. Lord forbid that I have a dissenting opinion from a Hollywood celebrity! [/sarcasm]
All Jen’s fan talking about names, is Aniston Jen’s real last name? Yes or no? If no, do you know her real last name?
Happy Birthday Cliniqua!!!!
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I guess the good news about the new adoption are sooo good that the haters just had to come out from under their rocks.
Welcome haters, whenever there’s a lot of you here that is only a sign that we had good news!!! The loudest you spew hate, the merrier the situation at the JP household. :)
BURLYGURL: Do you want them to live in a hut?
POORPHAM: You got that right. YOU need to step away from the computer. You are sounding more and more like an ass every time you post your comment.
PAULA THE CROTCH: You also will need a 4th grade education and a rap sheet to be like ANGELH (WHO BY THE WAY IS SYBIL AKA POORPHAM, DEBBIE, BURLYGURL, ET AL). Still LMAO.
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Well your comments are incredibly ignorant - delivering Chinese food on their tricycles??!! WTF?! They’re Cambodian and Vietnamese (with their own national dishes for that matter!) not Chinese. Good grief - how do people get this stupid?
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sam Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 3:01 pm - flag comment
Honey, Jennifer can’t think of anything worse than 4 kids under 5 from different countries.
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Yes I agree with you. Because Jennifer is such a selfish B*itch she would think the Worst the in the world would be having those beautiful kids.
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tomanykids Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 1:59 pm - flag comment
Nice. The leave the girls in the hotel room by themselves. Someone needs to give those kids to Jen quickly.
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These people really have been brainwashed by all Jennifer lies. Jennifer does not even want to babysit her god child. The only reason Jennifer will have a child is if she marries an old man and he had kids that live with their mother in the Soviet Union. Anywhere far enough they don’t visit.
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please Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 5:00 pm - flag comment
Great point. I think their idol name was changed from its Greek origins. However, don’t tell them. Let them think they are on a roll with all this ranting and raving about a name. AJ is a smart woman. While bitter woman debate a name, she is showering the new little one with love and care.
LOL
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stranger Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 5:01 pm - flag comment
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Hey there stranger, isn’t is just fantastic how this news just makes people crazy? I love love love it. Brad and Angie just keep doing their thing, irregardless of other people’s opinions. To the person saying Brad and Angie are laughed at in Hollywood. I guess being in negotiations to star in a movie with a big-time Oscar winning director, Clint Eastwood and owning an up and coming production company with a schedule full of movies is what people call ‘being laughed at’. I would love to be laughed at like that, wouldn’t you? :-)
Whateva: There seems to be a little mistaken identity. I have no idea who those people are, but I’ll take it as a compliment. I’m sure they’ll do the same.
And now, Crotch and Whateva: I’m afraid I’ll have to leave you for a while. I know, I know. You’ll be sad and miss me terribly. Don’t cry too much - you’ll short out the keyboards on those old Commodores 64s.
Dream of me. Love me. Just don’t try stalking me; it’s in such bad taste.
XOXO
~ Angel H.
Happy Birthday Cliniqua!
Oh yeah, happy birthday Cliniqua.
Just be prepared to hear the same exact arguments when Brad files to adopt their son in the next few weeks.
People should just save them and tell them not to bother until the bring something new to the table.
Ya know, like Brad and Angelina do and not their idol Aniston. Which is same siht, different day.
to 73 WHAT’S IN A NAME,
Thank you very much, it was great to hear the people’s own experiences.
to TEAM LARA CROFT,
I have never realised until I read your comment which is so true. The Jolie-Pitts have chosen the second names of their kids and these names can be used as a surnames.
It seems like it’s Angie’s idea, because she has already it.
Well I am quite sure there is some LOGICAL explanation as to why your friends don’t have a child yet and Angelina does (I didn’t realize you were privy to her adoption file honey). Perhaps your friends have something questionable in their past or where they are adopting from has a longer waiting list.
And it’s “respectable” sweetie - if you can’t spell it, how do you expect to live it sweetie?
Oh sweetie, honey, sugar lumps.. too bad you dont have a clue sugar pie as to what you are talking about. My friends are just fine. They certainly dont f**k in back seats and have viles of blood around their neck or french kiss their siblings. Your mama thinks I’m respectible sugar lumps.
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burlygurl Says:
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Many of the fans here are well-educated professionals and are very capable of disagreeing without name calling. We’ve also researched most of the topics here to the nth degree because we know better than to get behind something or someone without having all the facts. I believe that for the position that Brad and Angelina are in they are pretty reasonable in their choices - they have a big family and are continually chased by the paps - I would choose a SUV too if I were them. They stay in accommodations where their children will be safest - their first concern is always the children. It’s easy to cast stones when you aren’t in their shoes but I have very little doubt that most of us would make similar choices given their circumstances. They aren’t collecting ridiculous amounts of houses, vehicles, etc. like many of their counterparts. Their choices always have a reason behind them that is related to the work and travel that they do, what is best for their family, and their safety. Like anyone who works hard, they enjoy a splurge item from time to time.
DEBBIE: To bad they have never done it in a back seat. My husband and I had some fun.
If I could only be a fly on the wall when Angelina brings Pax home!Goodnight BAMPZSers.
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Debbie Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 5:14 pm - flag comment
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That’s probably part of your friend’s problem. They need to get their freak on. If they’re a mirror of you, they definitely need to get it on.
You’re a bit uptight. Pull your hair down or pull the stick out.
As much as you would love this to be true ,I really don’t care what J A does. Just because I have issues with AJ does not mean one HAS to be a JA fan. What an old and tired comment.
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Actually my mother thinks you’re living in the past sweetie pie and that there is definitely a good reason as to why your friends don’t have their child yet (if your ‘friends’ even exist). You don’t have all the facts and don’t have the first clue of what you are talking about, so move along honey.
PS - it’s ‘vials’, not viles and respectable, not ‘respectible’. If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, at least try to come across as intelligent and use spellcheck plump sugar lumps. Maybe your ‘friends’ just aren’t bright enough to be considered for adoption - birds of a feather usually flock together.
whateva …did you announce it to your neighbors too. LOL
Thanx Jared!
Liked the name!
How did Maddow come up with a name like Pax? It’s beautiful and meaningful.
He is a real thinker as his mother says.
This to will pass and the Jolie Pitt family will still be happily together.
Wishing the best to the whole family and that everything goes smoothly as they bring their new addition home.
Bless BAMPZS
I don’t know much about other country orphanage, but in VN, education is very important.. be it be in the orphange, or in regular school.
Most of the employees in the Orphange are teacher certify. Most of the orphan are potty train at 1 year old, by 2 they know how to use the bathroom on their own. By 3 they already learn how to read and write. So I’m not suprise if Pax already know how to read and write…
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ITA - most people in Hollywood are clamoring to work with them, not laughing at them. They are well respected everywhere they go.
I’m off to buy maps and dictionaries for the load of kids getting off the short bus and coming here - we’re going to need A LOT in the next while.
happy birthday “CLINIQUA” make me drunk please!
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burlygurl Says:
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Only when wealthy land owners preach to the pubic (preach for whatever reason, you know, attention seeking, always having to *appear* as do-gooders and “look good”) and then turn around live a very different life behind the scenes.
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Please clarify your claim of hypocrisy: Wealthy people should not do humanitarian work because 1. Only people with less resources should do humanitarian work 2. For any wealthy person’s humanitarian work to be credible, all wealth, or at least a significant amount of it, should be donated. Also clarify “the public” being preached: which one? The poor? The wealthy? The educated? The functionally illiterate? The racist? The indifferent? The ones who can not differentiate Vietnam from Cambodia and consider all are Chinese?
I have a suggestion for you, since you claim your argument, “It’s the hypocrisy, no matter who you are”, applies to all: Check out the Forbes list of the world’s most rich 849 person, add their wealth together, and match the amount to the resources necessary to eliminate basic survival problems: the right to have food, the right to survive, the right to be secure. Assume that all names on that list donate 1/3 of only their “yearly income”. Also check the nationalities of these people and inequality and poverty inherent in their own countries. You will see according to that list, JPs are not “rich” or even “wealthy”. If my calculations are correct, with their current wealth level, JPs need to work 30 more years without spending a nickel to be placed in that list, assuming all else equal. Here is another question on amassing real estate wealth: Do you know the number of North Americans buying homes in Central Europe and Latin America as summer vacation homes for investment purposes?
Your problem should not be JPs efforts, whatever they do, still their effort is not more than a drop. Your problem should be the redistributive justice in the world, and it starts from the Forbes list asking what these names give back to the deprived in the societies they live in. And for this reason, your outrage is misplaced and backfiring.
~c.
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Angel H. Says:
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perhaps I misread your comment. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I respect that as long as there is no name calling. I admire the JPs and I’m happy for them.
Welcome to newest member of JP family, Pax. May your life be long and healthy, filled with love and laughter.
Happy birthday to CLINIQUA and CMAR?
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Hi Medi-
How are you? Isn’t it late night in France?
Isn’t Pax adorable? I have fallen in love with his picture in that orphanage!
Lalo:
You are so so funny: crazy but funny..(crack pipe? it is hanging on your nose)
You have to calm down, you don’t know shi* about how Pax feels, so don’t give me this high and mighty attitude and your false concern. There are thousands of adopted children from different parts of the world, most of them had their names changed, learned English in no time and adapted to our culture with ease. Pax will be fine especially with Maddox to play with him. You are such kind of person that would give a hard time to Angie, Brad and their children (selectedly). Why aren’t you mentioning Meg Ryan who changed her adopted daughter’s name twice, Charlotte then to Daisy. You can’t take it anymore, can you? Brad left Aniston more than two years ago and he is not going back to her. And please don’t tell me you are not an Aniston fan. It must be very slow at FF. So you all come here to bother us.
Why can’t you just leave them alone? I know you hate us BAMPZS fans right now, at this moment because we are in 7th heaven.
Congatulations to the Jolie-Pitts….another beautiful baby who will be loved.
Hi curly-
How are you today?
This is a great day for the fans!
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The more I see it the more I like the name “Pax”.
Medi- hi there. I wonder if Ang and Brad were talking about names one day and Mad liked it. I’ve made suggestions to my kids when we name something(toy,whatever) and they always wait while I throw some out there, since they do know that many names. Just a thought.
medi- meant, since they don’t know that many names.
Tijen,
so far surviving. I just finished a project on sustainable democracy in a post-conflict society. I had to read a lot on war time atrocities, I did not want to post, too much acidic reading. Tonight I have a night off, and cooked guess what? barbunyali pirasa.
Have to take what I cooked to another Turkish friend, she is entertaining her guests with Turkish cuisine. Meet you here tomorrow.
Say hi to Guli and Medi.
~c.
Bye curly!
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curly Says:
Hi there, as I love cooking just looked up your barbunyali pirasa! Yummy! Oh by the way my French husband has a Turkish friend who gave us a delicious (!!!!!) desert called Gulluoglu (Pistache). We tried to be good and eat slowly but alas.. :)