Introducing… Pax Thien Jolie-Pitt

New reports from Vietnam are coming in that Angelina Jolie has renamed her 3-year-old adopted son from Pham Quang Sang to PAX THIEN JOLIE (soon to be PAX THIEN JOLIE-PITT).

In Latin, “PAX” means “peace.” In Vietnamese, “THIEN” means “sky.” The coolness factor pretty much matches up with the rest of the pack: Maddox, Zahara and Shiloh. PAX. THIEN. JOLIE. PITT.

But it has been confirmed that Angelina has completed procedures with Vietnamese authorities to adopt. Just one more hoop to jump through: U.S. consular and embassy officials must give approval.

In short… Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie will soon have four children: 5-year-old son Maddox adopted from Cambodia, 3-year-old son Pax adopted from Vietnam, 2-year-old daughter Zahara adopted from Ethiopia and 10-month old daughter Shiloh, who was born to the couple in May 2006.

First picture: Pax Jolie & Tam Binh Orphanage’s director Nguyen Van Trung

Second picture: Angelina Jolie and Maddox inside the orphanage

Third picture: Angelina leaving the Tam Binh orphanage

Fourth picture: Pax Jolie stands with other children from the orphanage

Fifth picture: Pax Jolie … bound for L.A.

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GOD BLESS THE JOLIE-PITTS @ 03/15/2007 at 12:02 am

GOD bless the Jolie-Pitts.

Another child comes home.

# 4

Well congrats to her family.

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Beautiful! Best wishes to the family and I wish Pax Thien a wonderful and happy life!

# 6

Congratulations Pax. God bless the Jolie-Pitts.

# 7

Pax, Pax, Pax hmmm catchy LOL hes so lucky!!

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Congratulations to Pax, Angie, Mad, Zee, Brad and Shi. Pax is a cutie.

Thanks Jared and Audrey.

GOD BLESS THE JOLIE-PITTS @ 03/15/2007 at 12:11 am

PAX is Latin which means “Peace’

The kid is a qt! Congratulations to the JPs (including Pax). Pax will surely get a lot of love from this amazin fam.

Surprisingly a beautiful child. Perfect for their People’s Magazine “Most Beautiful Family” lame.

PAX looks like BRAD!

tootootrue @ 03/15/2007 at 12:14 am

I just posted this on the other thread.
Pax= peace
Shiloh= peaceful one

Beautiful name for a beautiful child.

Mrs. Smith @ 03/15/2007 at 12:15 am

WOW! This is so awesome! I can’t stop looking at this little face, a beautiful little soul, who by some incredible karma, is now a member of the Jolie Pitt clan. I am so happy for all of them, and I hope that all the administrative aspects will be ironed out soon so that all the JoliePitts can be together again.

THANKS Jared!

Congrats and best wishes to Pax and the whole family!!! :)

A 4-year-old has already formed personal attachments to his foster caregivers, so it would be challenge for Angelina and Brad to make him feel comfortable and at ease. I hope he adapts to his new family soon though, and I’m pretty sure Maddox will help him come out of his shell. He must be stoked to have a brother who is around the same age as him to play football/soccer with.
It’s good to know that the older kids are also being noticed, we almost always see people adopting only the babies.

Welcome to your new life Pax Thien Jolie-Pitt.

On a sidenote: Its gonna be really funny if his name turns out to be Joe. :lol:

Thanks JJ for the update.

Wonderful news!
So now is it BAMZSP? or chronological by ages BAMPZS?
The second one is easier to say BAMPZS…

Which one will it be?

to much info so little time congrats to Pax and BAMZS!!GOOD NIGHT!!

This is wonderful. Congratulations, Jolie-Pitts!

So what is it now, BAMZSP???? :) Angie and Brad we need more vowels LOL!!!

#22 THE SECOND ONE IS EASIER!!!BAMPZS

So, she’s just going to change his name at 3 years old. Won’t he have enough changes already? If you were born John and at 3 someone started calling you Brad, it would be confusing!

I am diggin the name pax now.

info from souliejolie-

He’s 3 years and 4 months old (November or December birthday?) He likes eating spaghetti and yogurt. He has learned some English (counting from 1-10 and greeting).

He is just about 1 year older than Zee. My god, 4 children five and younger- 5, 3, 2, and 10 months. WOW!! And Angelina has said just this week that she wants even more children.

Hey peeps. I guess the next issue now for the haters will be why change the boy’s name. I love the name unique & easy.

I’m surprised it’s Pax really. I figured it would be 5 letters like the other kids. So Pax’s name would be Jolie-Pitt or Jolie to start with? Seems kind of strange to adopt him and then change his last name twice. I don’t exactly know about the name change and how it works. Anyway, congrats to them. I do kind of wish Brad was more of a part of it though. Before anyone complains, I know he’s a big part of it and will be the kids father, but I wish he could be there from the start and at the ceremony and singing of the adoption. Any word if he actually in the country or not? Some people are saying no, some are saying yes. I know some reports say just Maddox and some are saying all the kids.

Bampzs Fan @ 03/15/2007 at 12:37 am

Mad
Pax
Zee
Shi
……the Jolie Pitt Kids have very unique names. Best of luck to this beautiful family.

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stranger Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 12:24 am - flag comment
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I think the second one works best….. BAMPZS!

^6 letters like the rest of the kids, excuse my mistake. :D

her new kid is an alien or whatever kevin spacy was in that movie K-PAX lol
In an event wish them the best but it could have been a better name.

lurker opinion @ 03/15/2007 at 12:44 am

I thought changing the child’s name is common. At least Angelina gave him a name that could be from Vietnam normally parents will name the child a regular english name like jack or robert.

LOL everytime Angelina names her kids there is a reaction to the name. Some people did not like Zahara. Then did not like Shiloh. Now Pax. (Was not around when she named Maddox so don’t know how people reacted.)

Good luck to the family

A lot of thinking and caring seem to go into naming Jolie-Pitt children. I just love to be the fly on the wall of Jolie-Pitt household choosing these names LOL!!

bunch of loonies @ 03/15/2007 at 12:53 am

I love all of their names!

bunch of loonies @ 03/15/2007 at 12:54 am

Maddox named him Pax!! Hehehe

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guli

Hey thank you for asking. Not yet. I tried last night, but my brain was scrambled. Today I was really busy. Guli, you must understand I just learned how to copy the name of the person from a previous post to my comment post. Challenge does not do justice to my lack of computer skills.

Are you leaving again? If so where to, and for how long. Where is, I think this how she spells her name, Mailabaumm, and OJP, Sweetpea? There are a couple of others who use to post often, but stopped when we became over run with haters. I will try tomorrow to see if You tube can help me.

Thanks for asking. Peace.

needsomesleep @ 03/15/2007 at 1:13 am

I wonder if they would consider getting married…It is kind of sad that because they are not married, Brad had to miss out on these moments, when reporters, officials get to witness such a special moment. he did not. I wonder who is the one who does not want to marry Brad or Angie. It almost like Brad is an afterthought, when you google it says “jolies adopted son” or “Angelina adopts”. I also notice recently that certain media outlets instead of saying Brad and Angelina…..they say Angelina and Brad Pitt…I know some peeps might laugh,,,but I think the media seems to see Brad almost as an afterthought. I also noticed with e tv coverage they also seem to list her name first now…If you notice they never say keith and nicole…it is always nicole and keith…tom and katie…I need to get some rest but you can see the beginings of what is happening…I have been a fan of Brad, and I hope jolie has his best interests at heart. I hope she doesn’t break his heart.

Go & sleep needsomesleep…you bore me to death.

He’s a cute little boy.To me, he looks like Maddox.They will have a great time together. God bless this family!

What a sweetheart! I can say for sure that he’s a very lucky boy =)
As for the name, I am sure that he’ll love his new name Pax, it’s not like she changes the whole origin of the name (like Madonna did - ‘David’, I mean what is that ?!!) Angie ALWAYS gives her children names that mean something!! God bless her and Brad and the kids.

wow! She sure decided to have a lot of kids, after snagging Brad! Hopefully she will still be able to look after them if anything bad happens with Brad. As he doesn’t adopted this particular kid, he’s not responsible for him i take it?

He’s cute. Now he just needs a faux mohawk and a soccer ball and he’s set.

Congrats to the Jolie-Pitts. Every child deserves to be loved.

The name change makes sense. If you are in an orphanage somebody picks a name just to call you that. There’s no background story no reason based in love. Angie has given him a name and when he’s older he’ll ask her about the name and she’ll explain to him what it means.

BAMPZS!!! I LOVE IT!!!!

Cute boy :)
But why did she change his name? I know that’s quite normal when adopting a child, but this boy is already 3,5 years old. He’s used to his name. So now not only he has to become familiar with another country and family, but also with another name. I wouldn’t have done that, I think.
But he’s a lucky boy to be adopted by Angie and Brad!
Wonder how the other kids are going to react on him, especially Maddox, ’cause he now has a younger brother!

I do think the new name is cool…and I am not trying to be a “hater” but I agree with those about changing the name of a 3 year old….at 3 years old….you KNOW your name. And while I agree that she puts a lot of thought into the names of the kids and the names are certainly interesting and meaningful and she tries to keep it within the heritage of the child…so? Should her desire to name them something “meaningful” and interesting make more sense or be more important than the kid keeping his name at 3 years old? Maddox and Zahara were too young to really have that concept ingrained…so it wasn’t a big deal. Should she have changed Brad’s name when they got together? His name is pretty dull and it doesn’t really mean much of anything…And… her name is sort of uncommon and it’s pretty….but does it “mean” anything?

I have to say that I think it’s a little rough on the child to change his name. My son is three, and if you were to change his name, it would rock his world. On top of everything else he’s adjusting to, why add that to the mix?

Still, congrats to the family. He is darling.

wonderfut news,nice name.may God continue to bless this family

wha is going on,someone used my name,the first post was not mine.i hope jj can stop people from using other peoples name that is very rude

Vietnamese Guy @ 03/15/2007 at 8:37 am

Uh, “Thien” only means “good and kind” but not “heaven” nor “quieting” nor “bright”. All these words have the same letters but different accents.

whoever has being using my name to typeviews that are not mine better stop.this is like identity theft,jj pleaDE DO SOMETHING

awww soo cute!

Me Again! @ 03/15/2007 at 9:04 am

Happy Birthday Cliniqua!

49. christy=> Angelina means “little angel” and “Jolie” is french for nice or pretty. I think her name does mean something as everybody else’s. Pax sounds ok for me, it seems like Angie loves boys names with X endings, but it is for the more meaningful combined with “good or kind”. Quite creative this hot mamma!

she didn’t change his name idiots.

malibumom @ 03/15/2007 at 9:46 am

Love the name-cute kid-I came up with ZB-MAPS

malibumom @ 03/15/2007 at 9:48 am

Cliniqua It’s your Bday-Well happy Birthday!!! Take the day off and have a wonderful day!

Wow! I go to bed, get up this morning, and there are three new threads introducing the cutest little boy Pax. He is beautiful. I like his name and the meaning of his name. I am very happy for the Jolie-Pitts family.
Mad & Pax! They will be brothers and friends for life.
Congratulations to Brad, Angie, Mad, Pax, Zee, and Shi. Now what do we call the family for short? BAMZSP? or BAMPZS?

Happy Birthday to Cliniqua!

j@red, I’m confused…so which [main] thread is it? gosh! lol
bbl

madd picked the name @ 03/15/2007 at 10:02 am

This is from her Elle interview:

“Madd and I talk about him being adopted, and he’s got some opinions about his brothers and sisters to come.” Maddox has already named the next addition to the family. ‘Last night I said to Brad, “If this becomes a reality, are we really thinking of that name?” He said, “Yes I think we have to!”

Cute child, lovely family and I wish them well…. BUT… why change the name of a 3 year old child? Poor thing will be confused!

OK, maybe in Vietnamese the names Phang and Pax sound alike….any thoughts on that? experts out there speaking Vietnamese?

might make the transition to a new name easier for the 3 year old.

whats his first language?

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Keeping it real Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 9:56 am - flag comment

I am a fan, what can you do. On the other hand you are a hater, a CLOSET fan. That’s pathetic posting and hating away LOL!!

sorry, I of course meant Pham and Pax

I hope he will feel at home very soon. How big must Angies Love for Mad be, that she adopts a boy in this age. What a loving Mother.

People protest too much. There are so many things to be thankful for in the boy’s life.

From only one picture that I’m able to see, looks like the boy is going to up to be a handsome Asian-looking man. He seems to be a contrast to Mad. Mad is cute, but this one, BASED ON THE ONE PICTURE I CAN SEE, seems to be pretty mature. I hope they keep his hair style, thought. :) Or I hope Mad will come to like his brother’s haircut. :)

THE FREAK SHOW STARTED

What's In a Name? @ 03/15/2007 at 10:30 am

The topic of changing your adopted child’s name is a much talked about and at times heated discussion on adoption forums and groups. It’s an issue that will always be a hot topic and cause adoptive parents to second guess their instincts and question whether or not they are doing the best thing for their child.

I feel that it is a personal decision that certainly deserves a good amount of thought and consideration. In an older child adoption, the child may feel strongly attached to his name, or he may want a fresh start with a new name. I believe that the majority of adoptive parents do choose to change their child’s name, but we need to bear in mind that the majority of adoptions are of infants. Many feel that it is their right as parents to pass on a family name or choose their own name for their new child.

When I was pregnant with Cole, my husband and I had a list of girl names because we didn’t know the sex of the baby. When we started the adoption process and had requested a girl, none of those names worked anymore. We eventually came up with a very short list (and Ella wasn’t on it!)

We felt torn about the decision of whether or not to change our baby’s name when we got her. So we decided to hold off on any decision making until after we received her referral.

I can’t tell you exactly why we decided to name her our own name, but it just came down to feeling right. Her Vietnamese name (Cuc) is beautiful-it means chrysanthemum, and that is her first middle name. Her second middle name; Ruth, was my sweet Grammy’s middle name. Ella just came to me one day and I said “that’s it!” I shared with my husband and he whole heartedly agreed.

We kept her name a secret from all but my best friend, and it wasn’t revealed until after we had boarded the plane for Bangkok. Later that day that we left, my mom came to our house to take care of the cats and I had hung up the canvases I had painted that spelled out her name in her room. It was a wonderful surprise! We all thought we’d never be able to stop calling her Cuc, since that’s how we knew her for so long, but it hasn’t been an issue :) Even when someone does call her Cuc, we smile, because that’s her name too.

http://vietnam.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/changing-your-child-s-name

Why would she change the name of a three year old? Isn’t he old enough to know his name? I think thats pretty stupid.

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someone Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 10:36 am - flag comment

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As is your comment.

It must be heartbreaking having to turn your back on all these kids in all these places, some more desparate than others. I guess that’s been part of her learning experience; something like, ‘you can’t save the whole world, but you can save a little bit of it’. No wonder she cried alot during the first couple years.

Mondo Bongo! @ 03/15/2007 at 11:00 am

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What’s in a Name:
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Thanks for you post!!!!!!!

just a thought @ 03/15/2007 at 11:03 am

Maybe by changing his name she wants to signify that his life from here on will be a new, better life. I see nothing wrong with it. I like the new name now that I know what Pax means. Thien is a good name. A peaceful sky is bright and essentially that’s what his Vietnamese name ‘Quang Sa’ng’ alludes to. After the rain, the dark clouds are gone and the sun is out, the Vietnameses say ‘tro+`i quang’ (the sky is clear / bright). And when darkness is gone we say ’sa’ng ro^`i’ (there’s light). All in all, there is nothing to make of the changing of the name. His was not truly his any way since he was abandoned. A child can adapt quickly, especially when there are kids his age, even more so when there is one his gender. By next month I’m sure he’ll know enough English to let his new family know he’s hungry, thirsty, needs to go pee, and so on. A child born into a harsh world isn’t like one born into a country with massive welfare and social programs such as America. He or she will be just fine in the new environment.

Angie did make an effort to learn some Vietnamese phrases so she can comfort the boy. That is commendable.

I am just happy that she decided to adopt a Vietnamese boy. He is now saved from a life without education, on the hard streets of Saigon where he could be tricked into prostituting himself to survive. He will have education, dreams and very possibly have at least one of his dream fulfilled.

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Regina Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 10:53 am - flag comment
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Take your biggoted ass somewhere else. Doofus.

Break News

At this moment Jennifer is crying she’s been devastated by the new adoption. She can’t eat and sleep well I know she has many fans I provide the news for you in case you didn’t hear that. BAD NEWS FOR IDOL

[Fug Face Maniston] @ 03/15/2007 at 11:11 am

Womp Womp Womp^

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just a thought Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 11:03 am - flag comment
Beautiful post. I wish everyone who is so critical of AJ will take the time to read it. Thanks again.

sourgrapes @ 03/15/2007 at 11:14 am

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Regina Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 10:53 am - flag comment

Mia Farrow was not as popular as Angie and Brad. and did you she the photo of Shi and Angie in Namibia, in Cambodia, it was Angie cuddling baby Shi. enough of this BS post. you’re just another sour looser like your idol Maniston.
She was not a good daughter to her Dad ? Was her dad a responsible dad? I know Angie was a good daughter to her mother, she start working at 14 to support her mom and brother. unlike Maniston , won’t even bother to share a helping hand while her mom was sick.
Stop your fantasy that Brad gonna take shiloh and go back to Maniston . Please, at 38 pushin 40, Maniston never experience motherhood, she don’t even like kid, how can you prove she ‘ll be a good mother, she even said her own mother was disease in her life ? How can this woman be a good mom, baby are not dog which Maniston are more adept to.

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Regina Says

Then why are you here? just trying to stir some trouble ? go back to ff cave.

Wait a minute. I’m confused. These threads are starting to say the same thing LOL

As I said on another Pax thread, congrats to the Jolie -Pitt family on their new new addition to the family.

I guess Angelina is gonna have to roll up her sleeves and add this:

16 00 N, 106 00 E

Vietman’s coordinates on the map.

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madd picked the name Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 10:02 am - flag comment
This is from her Elle interview:

“Madd and I talk about him being adopted, and he’s got some opinions about his brothers and sisters to come.” Maddox has already named the next addition to the family. ‘Last night I said to Brad, “If this becomes a reality, are we really thinking of that name?” He said, “Yes I think we have to!”

I love this Brad is so accomodating to his children. “I think we have to”, that is so cute.

eyes rolling @ 03/15/2007 at 11:21 am

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b Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 11:05 am - flag comment
Break News

At this moment Jennifer is crying she’s been devastated by the new adoption. She can’t eat and sleep well I know she has many fans I provide the news for you in case you didn’t hear that. BAD NEWS FOR IDOL
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YOU ARE AN IDIOT. LET IT GO. CONCENTRATE ON THE FAMILY.

I think if Angie….who knows way more than most of us about the ins and outs of adoption…..decided to give this boy a different name then she probably knew what she was doing. Pax seems to resemble Maddox more compared to all the other boys in the picture JJ provided, in my opinion. He also seems more solemn compared to the others but then again this is just one picture we have seen of him. Soon he will be smiling at his parents and frowning at the paps,lol. Congrats to the Jolie-Pitts on the new addition to their family.

……..A child born into a harsh world isn’t like one born into a country with massive welfare and social programs such as America. He or she will be just fine in the new environment.

Angie did make an effort to learn some Vietnamese phrases so she can comfort the boy. That is commendable.

I am just happy that she decided to adopt a Vietnamese boy. He is now saved from a life without education, on the hard streets of Saigon where he could be tricked into prostituting himself to survive. He will have education, dreams and very possibly have at least one of his dream fulfilled.

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When that boy grow-up, just like Mad, Zee, He ‘ll know how lucky he is and will always respect, love and grateful to both his parents -Brad and Angie.

Congratulations to the Jolie-Pitts for their new son. It’s great that Mad was there to ease the transition for him.

Angelina Jolie is a proud new mom once again, now that her adoption of a 3-year-old Vietnamese boy is official, Jolie’s rep tells PEOPLE exclusively.

The boy’s name is Pax Thien Jolie, born in November 2003, according to the orphanage where he has lived. His name means Peaceful Sky – Pax is peace in Latin and Thien is sky in Vietnamese.

Jolie’s rep says she took custody of the child on Thursday in Vietnam. They will remain in the country for about a week while the child’s American passport is processed, the rep says.

The boy had been living at the Tam Binh orphanage outside Ho Chi Minh City ever since he was abandoned at a hospital as a baby, according to adoption officials. Shortly after he arrived at the facility, staff attempted to locate his birth parents, but to no avail.

Jolie went to the orphanage Thursday morning with her 5-year-old son Maddox, whom she adopted in Cambodia in 2002. Jolie’s companion Brad Pitt did not accompany them to Vietnam.

“Brad very much wanted to be there but is under contract working on a film in Los Angeles and as a result couldn’t go,” Trevor Neilson, Jolie’s adviser on international affairs, tells PEOPLE.

About two dozen children in traditional ao dai formal garb greeted them and offered flowers at the orphanage. Jolie left carrying the boy to a waiting van.

“He is in good health,” orphanage director Nguyen Van Trung told the Associated Press, adding that the boy gets along with the other children and likes playing soccer. “He is a little bit shy.”

Trung also said Jolie’s adoption was swiftly processed because the boy is older and his files were already nearly complete.

Angelina Jolie with her son Maddox in Vietnam

Photo by: AP
Because Vietnamese law makes it difficult for unmarried couples to adopt, Jolie applied solo – but she and Pitt together will welcome their new Vietnamese child to their family, which along with Maddox includes Zahara, 2, and 10-month-old Shiloh. The adoption was a “process that began shortly after Shiloh was born [in May],” a source told PEOPLE in a recent cover story.

As for why Vietnam was selected in the first place, Jolie has traveled extensively in Southeast Asia and has visited the country at least twice – including, with Pitt, last Thanksgiving.

After adopting Maddox from Cambodia and Zahara from Ethiopia, she mused to Good Morning America in December that it might be a good idea to “balance the races so there’s another African person in the house for Z [and] another Asian person in the house for Mad.”

Thank You JJ for the wonderful thread. All of the children are so cute and beautiful. Congratulation to Ms. Jolie and family on her new son. Welcome to American little Jolie Pitt, may your life be full of adventures, loves and happiness
(well you don’t need to worry about the love and happiness part, it’s a given).

Happy Birthday to Cliniqua.

It’s nothing wrong with changing to a new name, parents are doing that to their own children all the time, especially parents that are from foreign country.

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What’s In a Name? Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 10:30 am - flag comment
The topic of changing your adopted child’s name is a much talked about and at times heated discussion on adoption forums and groups. It’s an issue that will always be a hot topic and cause adoptive parents to second guess their instincts and question whether or not they are doing the best thing for their child……………………

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. That was very sweet and so true. People should stop nit picking and look at the larger scale of things. As long the child is safe and happy I don;t think he will mind his name change. Sure there is going to be a time of adjusting for everyone involve but that’s life and kids should learn that no matter the age. He is still too young to really be attached to a name. I still call me kids by their nick names and they are well adjusted kids. Maybe Angie will call him LOVE or HONEY for a while, while they are all adjusting. Who cares what she names him as long as he is loved.

I have to say CONGRATULATIONS to the Jolie-Pitt family.
It’s really sweet to adopt children so they can have a better life.
Brad Pitt will soon have his soccer team.

Oh ya. I forgot to say thank you to JAred and his hard working team :)

Happy Birthday Cliniqua! You was birfed today :)

I can’t get over how cute they are and 3 is a fun age . I guess for peeps who love kids 4 would be fun … I can’t even imagine having 1. So, Angie took all her kids to meet their new bro?

BAMZSP - sound BAMZSPeee

BAMPZS - sound better

attn Regina #79 @ 03/15/2007 at 11:48 am

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Regina Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 10:53 am - flag comment
What a show-off. Poor kid, now he has to learn his new name, new language, new life all at once. Of course the kid is cute. She will never pick up an ugly kid, because won’t look good at the cover of Vanity Fair. Do you guys wonder why she never kisses or hug Shiloh ? it always Mad and Z, I think she is not over the fact that the beautiful child is a lot more than she deserve. She was not a good daughter to her daddy how suddenly she can be a role model for this rainbow kids. Just sucks. I hope that one day Brad takes off with Shiloh and leave the United Nationbs behind. She only does this for the publicity. Mia Farrow adopted challenged kids and nobody take one photo of her or her kids. Enough of Jolie.

You aren’t aware that the child was unseen by his new parents prior his him being chosen? The orphanage did the choosing, and it was based on the requested and quite limited criteria Angelina put forward “just like with Zahara.”

As for Brad packing up Shiloh and hightailing it away from her mom and sib’s, just what would be the reason Brad would do that and leave the rest behind? Brad Pitt said in the Esquire magazine interview that there was no difference between the adopted or the bio kids, and that blood was blood. He states that he couldn’t live without them and recommends adoption to anyone. He said on camera when he was at a Babel premiere and Ang & kids were at a nearby hotel that he believes in keeping the brood together. He said before that when he left them in India while coming to Cali for a premiere that he couldn’t wait to get back to his peeps, and quote “I miss my family!”.

attn Regina…….

You are entitled to your opinions on any subject, but it really only can help an argument when even a little research is done before sharing what you think on a subject, and research really helps when like you did, said stuff as if it were grounded in some truth when in TRUTH, there is no merit to anything you have said.

Why would you change a 3 years olds name? Its probably scary enough to start living with strangers you don’t know but than to have them call you a different name.

that bees chick @ 03/15/2007 at 11:49 am

You know, nobody ever seems to remember that these munchkins grow up. She’s gonna have four (or more) rich, beautiful teenagers of assorted gender in her house at one time. Let us pray for their family.

good looking boy

Changing a 3 1/2 year old’s name is not a good idea and is strongly discouraged by adoption agencies and child psychologists. Why does Angelina Jolie say how important it is for her adopted children to know about their homeland and where they came from, and then go ahead and take their names away?

I guess this comment makes me a “hater” and a “faniston”, huh? I guess all those child experts must be fanistons too.

just make sure shi still gets her share of cookies and she will be fine. She is still the baby in the house…for now. I have a feeling Angie is pregnant or will be preggers soon enough. I don’t think she will adopt anymore .

i think its great that they have adopted but i dont get the name change?

Regina #79

Only reason you are yapping about Shiloh “being ignored” is because she is WHITE. You are a racist, KKK redneck. Thanks for taking off your mask showing your ugly self.

From the other thread @ 03/15/2007 at 11:55 am

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Truc Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 11:38 am - flag comment
291/sophie: No Pham & Pax do not sound alike… Pham is one of the Vietnamese surname… In Viet Nam, his full name is Pham Quang Sang which has lovely meaning… It’s understandable that Angelina gave him new names… Pax Thien sounds nice & has lovely meaning… Vietnamese names & meaning can be tricky to translate depending on the placement of accents. Ex: Thiện, Thiên, Thiền, Thiền, Thiễn, Thiêۥn
Those names all have different meaning… Vietnamese has 6 different tones… and they change the meaning of words… The subtle differences in tones often pose a problem for a foreign learner of Vietnamese…
I wish all parties the very best… I feel sad knowing he cried, confused, was/is frightened by what has transpired in recent days… I have a beautiful niece his age… She is sharp, has a sense of self, identity, understands her surroundings, knows the concepts of attachement, love, dislike, etc… She loves her grandma but she would always say “no” when asked to stay overnight with grandma… she can’t fathom the thought of not being with her parents… This boy is lucky to be adopted by a very good mom & loving family but it is a trying time for him… being uprooted, removed from other kids, his caretakers, his familiarity, his comfort zone at a tender age of 3… my heart aches a bit… i hope he’s coping well and won’t be pereceived as a problem-child… Have compassion & patience for this child…

Give the Jolie-Pitts some cred @ 03/15/2007 at 12:00 pm

Some of you act as if they aren’t aware that the child has been accustomed to the name he’s been referred to for the time he’s been in the orphanage. The new name I’m sure isn’t at this time is being used for more than when it’s required on legal documentation. Stop being so unintelligent about this, or choosing to believe Brad & Angelina are being so. Yes, the boys name has been changed, and no, he is not expected to come running at the sound of it anytime soon I’m sure.

THANK YOU!!!!!!

That’s a beautiful name and he is a gorgeous child. I vote for BAMPSZ too! Maddox will love having a younger brother. This is one lucky child.

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jiminy c

Acutally most specialists say it is up to the situation and the family. There is no agreement as to what is best. As is most things when it comes to raising a child. If there was an clear understanding that changing the name would harm the child then it would most likely be part of the adoption policy that a child’s name after a certain age can’t be changed.

In Viet Nam, his full name is Pham Quang Sang which has lovely meaning… It’s understandable that Angelina gave him new names… Pax Thien sounds nice & has lovely meaning… Vietnamese names & meaning can be tricky to translate depending on the placement of accents. Ex: Thiện, Thiên, Thiền, Thiền, Thiễn, Thiêۥn

Surely that doesn’t matter to woman-of-the-world, lover-of-all-cultures Angelina Jolie? The woman must have to do mental gymnastics to accommodate all of her conflicting belefs/lies.

Hey all. I just watched “The Most” w/ Alison Stewart on MSNBC and she briefly talked about the adoption saying the pic of Angie and Maddox in the car is the most e-mailed pic of the day on yahoo. She called Mad a “cute little guy” :) But damn it, she left out Zahara when she named Brad and Angie’s other kids! Come on, Alison!

tomanykids @ 03/15/2007 at 12:04 pm

This child’s name was PHAM, it still should be! What a selfish bit*h giving him a designer name because it sounds cool. Whatever. She just totally took his identity from him, now he’s someone else. grrrrrrrrrrrr. i don’t like her or her motives

I meant BAMPZS–Shiloh last. It makes sense with the ages of the kids as well, oldest to youngest. Very cute.

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Give the Jolie-Pitts some credit ok? Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 12:00 pm - flag comment

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(((((((((CLAPPING))))))))

Rock On!

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jiminy c

Your hater side is showing. LOL Didn’t like the answer from someone who is from Vietnam because of course you know more.

Beatiful name. I guess they did not listen to me about Orleans huh Izzie! Hey Izzie!

Oh, well, it’s fine. I love this name. Given our history with Vietnam, this is a great and symbolic name and wonderful. He looks a lot like Mad. Just like David Banda looks a lot like Rocco Ritchie - this often happens in adoptions.

Wonderful. Angie: you are an inspiration.

Welcome Pax!

BAMPZS!!!!!!!!!!

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Lady G Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 12:37 am - flag comment
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stranger Says:

March 15th, 2007 at 12:24 am - flag comment
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I think the second one works best….. BAMPZS!
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For all the detractors= Please visit the UNHCR site and educate yourselves about what Ange does and why she believes in her humanitarian work so much- read her journals and then ask yourselves= Could I or Would I want to do that- to at least try to make a difference in this world of ours… Also- from reports I have heard (not sure if they are true, maybe some could guide me on this) AJ did not “PICK” Pax- Vietnamese officials/orphanage workers matched her with this particular child… as I said= not sure if true or not- but that’s one of the reports floating around…

Angelina has a political advisor, so I would think that she would also have a pro helping her through this adoption as well. Don’ you think she has people around her like maybe a psychiatrist or some kind of doc that can help her and her family as they make this transition? She has said that it is not has hard as it would be for your average american mom because she is rich and can afford help when it is needed. my guess he will get used to BOTH names… He will respond to pax and sang.

TOMANYKIDS: You sure are spending lots of time jumping threads and commenting about someone you don’t like. Can you imagine how productive you could be if you actually put this same amount of time into a project that you did like? Are you the victim of a lobotomy as well? Go grab a life, sweetie. Yours seems to suck.