Pax Thien Jolie’s Passport Photo
This is the passport photo of Angelina Jolie’s newly adopted 3-year-old son Pax Thien Jolie (born Truong Quang Sang) that was attached to the passport application filed at the immigration office in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam on Friday. The very first photos of Pax were posted here.
Angelina and Pax (along with Maddox, Zahara, and Shiloh) will fly home to Los Angeles after Pax’s passport and visa have been finalized.
Lao Dong (Labor) newspaper reports that when Angelina and Pax first met, she quickly embraced him and told him in Vietnamese “Khong sao dau, khong sao dau” (No problem, no problem) and immediately started playing with him.
Tuoi Tre (Youth) newspaper reports that Pax can count from 1 to 10 in English and his favorite foods include fried noodles and yogurt.
The adoption agency that Angelina used issued the following response to clear up rumors regarding Pax’s adoption.
“In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received no preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and contrary to earlier reports, her application was not fast tracked.
Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.
In addition, we can confirm the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has neither made, nor promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage. Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wish them much joy.”
– Heidi Gonzalez, Vietnam Adoption Coordinator for Adoptions From The Heart
Posted to: Angelina Jolie, Maddox Jolie Pitt, Pax Thien Jolie Pitt, Vietnam
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I am soooo sorry folks, but like I told Izzie last night OSU was playing the first round, I knew they would beat S. Conn but still wanted to watch it with hubby. Just as I was coming back to join the party, then Gonzaga started playing BYU and the winner would play OSU, then the HUGE upset of Duke :-) So, I hate to say it the March Madness of NCAA basketball tourney sucked me in :-(…. OK, how about a BIG cyber-party when the BAMZS re-unite as a family in the states???
No more–ohh my team creamed them, but that was expected, Duke was not supposed to lose and it was the last second shot, man that was a classic. Sorry, as you can tell I am huge fan of NCAA college football and basketball.
Hiya Bermy, susie, JP, BCBG and everyone else from the BAMPZS fan side…. OK, my prediction, next baby will be bio and the next a girl they will be adopted from somewhere in Africa… Remember the video from WWO, Angie has donated a big chunk for an aids orphanage in Ethiopia… JMHO…btw-if you want the link to that video I’ll re-post it…
To change the kid’s name is allowed until the child is nine in their country. Please let’s not have any more conversation about name change. If you have a problem with it, call Vietnam and tell them to change the law.
Piper, that was a classic smackdown (#156) - thank you for that!
To burlyhurly aka ritzy, trying to ascribe a Maniston like obsession with the rags to Angelina is ridiculous. Angie isn’t paying HuvaneCO 10 million a year to plant, leak and track stories in the media, nor does she have paid for trollers on blogs - no, unh-uh…THAT would be Jennifer Aniston.
Also, PR agents on Angie’s behalf aren’t out setting up smear jobs in papers of note on their ‘Gossip’ pages (PAGE SIX & Tatiana, Caryn James B.S. piece, etc) — because Maniston and Huvane invest more time in their management of rag stories and their smear campaigns against Angelina and Brad — and not ENOUGH time on Maniston’s own no-talent, mediocre burnt toast of a dwindling career.
As a result, we have situations like the Sh*tiana Reams Smear Angelina Jolie Campaign….where her job is to POSE as some high powered adoption advocate (which she is NOT), and allude to representing adoptive parents in a prominent agency type situation (which she does NOT) - and MALIGN Angelina Jolie. Except this time was DIFFERENT, she didn’t just leave her lies and fakery at the NY Post’s PAGE SIX, she took it abroad, to Viet Nam.
That’s right, she actually made herself sound like some officiating agency (which she is NOT, she is a FAKE as we all know) — and made it a point, using these false premises and made-up credentials, to try to intefere with and disrupt an individual family’s adoption.
A family, that Beams did not know, nor did she have any first hand knowledge of the facts surrounding their adoption(s). Facts schmacts! That doesn’t matter when you’re an unscrupulous gossip page hiring a hit-man (woman) like Beams however - what matters is the thousands of hits/results you get when you google Beams, and you can read her inferring that Angelina is cheating the adoption system, and by association that there are agencies and foreign countries helping her do it!
Not only is this legal SLANDER IMO, it endangers adoptions and kids and families. If I were Beams I’d have the NY Post hire a lawyer for me. Seeing as it that Beams, contacted the foreign officials in Viet Nam (Duc Long) and made official sounding complaints and vague threats to them. I would say Gonzalez, and the agencies involved, are most likely eager to clear cr*p up like Beams tried to spread themselves.
Angelina did not necessarily have to have know sh*t about Sh*tiana Reams, or the inferences floating around the media that Beams and Page Six tried to spark, as Beams chose to involve herself in the Jolie adoption with foreign officials - and was speaking with newspapers without contacting Angelina or Brad for info or doing any research herself on Viet Nam’s criteria to adopt.
It was all speculation on Page Six’s and her part - designed to malign Angelina Jolie. They were not interested in facts - or helping children or adoptive families. That’s the ugly crime of it all.
These entities and the adoption agencies involved want to set the record straight, on their own behalf - and to correct the misinformation that can come about when rabidly jealous haters and evil PR monsters going after one beautiful young actress with a big heart, are actively behind these types of smears, and unfortunately also end up smearing not only the process of adoption itself in general, but the wonderful agencies that bring families together. They want to clear things up for themselves - and are eager to do it, in the face of the lies and machinations in the tabloid and gossip press.
Well here we go again - same old tired stuff repeated over and over. Brad is working - period. There could be many, many reasons why they decided he should stay on the home front - one could be work - one could be taking care of younger children anD other could be not to overwhelm Pax with too many new faces at one time - Angelina and Maddox are more than enough. We just don’t know the dynamics. Last night on the old thread a poster was once again reciting a bunch of stuff that was just not true. Even though lots of official statements had gone out about the adoption these people either don’t read or just want to continue controversy. Even some “fans” don’t appear to read enough - they also continue trying to defend stuff that has been shown to be false and does not need defending by them - it just keeps it going. Anyway, below is a post and response from the last thread. Maybe people will read it and move on. Also read what Jared has at the top of this thread.
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Riviera Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 11:16 pm - flag comment
And, yes, she’s gone and done it again! Thinking of herself only! Even if she thought she was doing good for the child, she’s wrong! He is a beautiful child…he looks healthy and happy. Now, she’s going to change his name, change his language, take him to some strange land, have paps follow his every move, and why??? to show the world she adopts?? who cares! And, what exactly is she proving to “normal folks” who would like to adopt? That money can get you a child so much quicker? She’s an A$$!
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just thinking Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 11:57 pm - flag comment
Riviera, regarding your post - has it ever occurred to you that taking these children a way from poverty and giving them a loving home, and education and someday a lot of money can benefit the country of birth. One day they all could be advocates for their own countries in ways that we can’t even imagine. It’s destiny. These children were chosen by the orphanages - the Jolie Pitts did not pick them (talking about Pax and Zahara here) they were sent a file on the child who were chosen to fit the family. J & P could have rejected either child but they didn’t. Also, I read on a Vietnam adoption site ( can’t find it now) that up until the age of 9 it is okay to change childs name - after 9 it is okay only with consent of child. Seems to me that if the Vietnamese authorities deem it okay to change the childs name and they are very child oriented then it is okay to change the child’s name. In addition if you had read some of the official reports coming form the orphanage you would see that this has been in the works for almost 1 year. No corners were cut - not deal with the promise of money were cut. All requirements were met and now we have the wonderful results.
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K Says:
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I disagree with you.. many people who’ve experienced adoption through different ways have come out and said (in this forum to be precise and others) that a name is reallly not a big deal. Yes, the little boy knows it by now but in time, he’ll come to know the new one as well. And, it is my opinion that the JPs will call him by the name he knows mixed with the name he’ll come to know. Don’t worry, really, that little boy just won the lottery and I’m not talking about the money, but about the family he’s now become a part of.
I think the fact that Angelina changes the kids names to Jolie-Pitt instead of Pitt-Jolie shows that she really has faith in Brad. When she adopted Maddox ‘alone while married to Billy Bob’ his name was Thornton-Jolie not Jolie-Thornton. Brad will adopt Pax within months in not weeks.
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K Says:
March 16th, 2007 at 11:15 am - flag comment
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It’s your problem. Key word. Your. Don’t make it ours and it’s certainly not Angelina and Brad’s. Yours. K?
sorry last line suppose to be ‘Brad will adopt Pax within months if not weeks.
BCBG Says:
It’s also possible that the shoot of Benjamin Button is shooting in the evening or night time BECAUSE the movie is a PERIOD PIECE.
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I think they came back to LA to work on the special effects for this movie. IMDB shows that they are working with Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) . From what Fincher said about the new technique being used, Brad face will be used on different bodies. Thus Brad had to do all the scenes even of the childs. Who knows where or if Sara check but I do know that Brad and Angelina aren’t dumb. They know people are always looking into their lives and trying to find a gotcha moment.
I love the name Pax Thien …. which means heavenly peace!
I’m bringing Gussie’s post over here because it was so great .
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Gussie Says:
March 15th, 2007 at 8:31 pm - flag comment
1. Pax was abandoned as a nameless new-born and registered as Pham Quang Sang by the whim of some bureaucrat in the Vietnamese legal system. The name was not the meaningful bequest of loving parents. If the kid was American, an identical bureaucrat would have called him John Smith. Or even John Doe.
2. No American parents would keep this exact original name. In Vietnam family name come first, then a middle name chosen from a very short list of possibilities and at last the given name. So if AJ and BP had decided to keep Pax’s Vietnamese name he would in effect be called Smith Doe John.
3. So I suppose all the onomastics experts (cof) who have been criticising AJ will graciously concede that she would at least have to change the order of the kid’s names – which gives us Sang Quang Pham.
4. And the same onomastics and adoption experts (cof cof) will also kindly concede that she would have to change Pax’s meaningless surnames to those of his parents – which gives us Sang Jolie or, in the near future, Sang Jolie-Pitt (gosh, they will go cuckoo again next week when Brad and Angie petition the American courts to change the surname to Jolie-Pitt due to Brad adopting the kid).
5. Those onomastics, adoption and child psychology experts (cof cof cof) will moreover benevolently concede that a toddler is not particularly attached to a middle name, which is usually more symbolic, frequently used to remember an ancestor, a patron saint, some cultural heritage. Thus accepting that AJ is not endangering Pax’s well-being by choosing a symbolic middle name, such as Thien – which gives us Sang Thien Jolie-Pitt.
6. Now, dear beloved onomastics, adoption, child psychology and pedagogy experts (cof cof cof cof), we may surely agree that little Pax is going to grow in a western society, as a member of a western family, with at least (gosh they will go absolutely bananas when the next pregnancy is announced) three siblings who all have meaningful given names lovingly chosen by their parents?
7. So, darling multi-experts, would you want little Pax to be the only Jolie-Pitt without a western sounding given name? The only Jolie-Pitt without a given name chosen by his loving parents? Tss, tss… and the trauma? The identity crisis? The horror! Therefore… I give you Pax Thien Jolie-Pitt!
8. Finally, you multi-idiots, rest assured that the transition from Sang to Pax is going to be smooth. Little Pax’s mother took the trouble (as the most babbling orphanage director in the world informed us) to learn some Vietnamese, in order to ease communication with her new son. Do you think she is going to start shouting Pax! Pax! Pax! to the toddler until he identifies with the name? To induce recognition and identity in a 3-year-old (in every 3-year-old) is a daily task. And a very basic and straightforward one too. By the time the fifth Jolie-Pitt kid arrives, Pax will be Pax will be Pax – and won’t even remember he was once a Sang Doe in some orphanage.
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BCBG Says:
March 16th, 2007 at 11:01 am - flag comment
hey, JoliePitt……..how’s the weather there? still cold?
today, i may be able to post more since i just finished a big project. and i dont feel like doing anything for friday.
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BCBG, the weather in northern, va was nice all week in the 70’s, until last night. it got cold very quickly and rainy! still raining today. it is suppose to snow tomorrow. man, it worries with all the polution going on and the weather is changing to its weird ways!!!!!!!!
good to know that you will be posting today. i hear ya when it comes to projects. i’ve been so busy, but finally i have a break today!
Get Over It-Great point-never thought of that one!
Susie, I saw that one a few days ago lol Have you checked this one out?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxaiw03YIg
malibumom–it’s greta to hear from you, please post more often. Yep–I miss the good old days as well, but now now we have new fans that joined JJ’s (as well as haters) and I’mm going to enjoy this family and my cyber-friends no matter what the nay-sayers try to do ruin our fun. It ain’t going to happen..
BCBG– I know there are so mmany important dates coming up, we can have many parties. Let’s agree to the next date and I promise I won’t bail out, unless OSU is playing :lol:
Hiya Websurfer, just thinking, please,julia, piper and whom ever I ight have missed. How are you all doing. I can’t wait to see the NEW whole family picture….
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K Says:
March 16th, 2007 at 11:15 am - flag comment
what’s wrong with changing of name? most eastern asian will add another western name or change their name when migrating to any english speaking countries. aside from assimilating to their new homeland, it’s much easier to pronounced and remember. beside Pax original name was given by the orphanage not his bio parents. Brad and Angie will be his parents, they have every right to give him a new name. deal with it !!!!!!
Chris Rock was on The View today and he joked about adopting African babies lol To which Joy asked him if he thought Angleina can handle all her kids and he said, “She’ll be fine. Angelina’s got a little black in her, look at her lips!” :lol: They laughed and Rosie happily said, “She got that and a whole lot more!”
These are the exactly same people who complained that Angie went on a trip to Africa and left Brad with all the kids while he is working, right?
Now, Angie took all their kids with her during her trip while Brad is STILL working. AND THEY ARE STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT IT?
You are kind of dudes will never and ever be satisfied with anything in life, I do feel for you. For you, there must be something wrong and missing which makes you feel just fine. This is sick, very sick.
to GULI and TIJEN,
I am going to Istanbul next Thursday, insallah. My mother is not feeling well, nothing serious but she wants to see us, actually her grand daughter. We shall stay for 10 days. Her pacemaker will be changed. She has got emotional, she will be 76 insallah this year.
Oops, I meant to write “They’ll be fine” (meaning the kids)
Chris Rock was on The View today and he joked about adopting African babies lol To which Joy asked him if he thought Angleina can handle all her kids and he said, “She’ll be fine. Angelina’s got a little black in her, look at her lips!” They laughed and Rosie happily said, “She got that and a whole lot more!”
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I love Chris Rock :D
From Gussie via Susie — I totally agree - with this. Angelina crosses all the “t’s” and dots all the “i’s - she is so on top of things it is amazing/
Rom Gussie’s post
8. Finally, you ——, rest assured that the transition from Sang to Pax is going to be smooth. Little Pax’s mother took the trouble (as the most babbling orphanage director in the world informed us) to learn some Vietnamese, in order to ease communication with her new son. Do you think she is going to start shouting Pax! Pax! Pax! to the toddler until he identifies with the name? To induce recognition and identity in a 3-year-old (in every 3-year-old) is a daily task. And a very basic and straightforward one too. By the time the fifth Jolie-Pitt kid arrives, Pax will be Pax will be Pax – and won’t even remember he was once a Sang Doe in some orphanage.
OFF TOPIC A LITTLE: does anyone here know quite well about a SPINAL CORD EPENDYMOMA? a friend of mine has it and seeking as much advice as he possibly can. i have been doing research, but i still can’t comprehend the whole thing. he has it in the lower spinal cord since he was a child, but didn’t know about it, until he fell so hard from snowboarding and felt the pain in the lower back. got MRI done and showed the tumor is in his lower spinal cord sitting on the top of the left side root nerve! the tumor spreaded to his left side back and causing the weakness and stiffness in his left leg. some days he can feel his left leg and some days he can’t feel it as it is numbed. a major surgery to remove is a must since they can’t stick a needle to get the sample of the tumor for treatment. well, it’s pretty big and surgery is a must to remove as much as possibly can and give chemo and radiation treatment after the surgery. he’s been seeing surgeons, one say the negative outcome that he might become paralyze after the surgery because it involves nerves, but “maybe”. one surgeon said the negative outcome he could lose his bowel movement or could cause bladder, which he doesn’t have any of those now. if anyone here knows anything about it, please let me know what you think and recommendations. thank you!
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ok Says:
March 16th, 2007 at 11:32 am - flag comment
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And then you woke up.
Amaya- that clip was great. It got Bush dead on, I like “strategizing the strategy” and the hand on Condi’s knees. Thanks. How’s jammy this morning, still sick?
Guli- we will have to plan for when they are home.
All the reports about who are in Vietnam made me confused.
Is it really that Brad stayed behind in LA while Angie brought all 3 kids with her to meet their new brother? I though only Angie and Mad are there. Angie brought the girls along, too? Waw, it’s gonna be tough to handle all the young kids, now plus Pax, on their way back home, and the fact of it is a long trip will not help much. Holly must be with her, or at least some other companion. I don’t really think the bodygards would be involed too much with taking care the kids.
I understand that Brad has to commit to his movie. But at least he can keep the girls at home with him, if it’s true. Brad should be able to help take some burden off Angelina’s shoulder. She carries just too much on her. I want to see she can take a bit easy.
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