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Angelina’s Brother: “Brad Changed My Sister A Lot”

Angelina’s Brother: “Brad Changed My Sister A Lot”

Angelina Jolie’s brother James Haven gave an interview to British weekly Grazia
, reports Us Weekly. He speaks out on her relationship with Brad Pitt and why they work so well.
On the rumors that Angelina is controlling: “I have never seen any sign of tension between them. They make all their decisions together. It’s rubbish that she tries to control him. They have a balanced relationship; they each do their stuff. I’ve never seen moments where one is nagging or controlling the other.”

On how Brad changed Angelina: “Brad has changed my sister a lot. They have an extraordinary bond, but not on the usual level. Brad is so strong for her; when she feels vulnerable, he has the most incredible strength. She says she couldn’t have adopted more children after Maddox without him.”

On why they work: “The great thing about Brad and Angelina is that they really get each other’s sense of humor, and make each other laugh a lot. They talk about politics a great deal and are very creative together with the projects they are working on. If it keeps going the way it’s going, they’ll be together for life.”

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even through is not true. is nice to hear positive things about angie and brad. I am tire of US Weekly always writing negative things about them.

Hey Tabitha and Sophie—- I was just getting ready to respond and I saw your response Sophie to Tabitha, I was so proud of both of you as a fellow BAMPZS fan I wanted give you both credit. This is how we should (fans) resolve our different opinions, by agreeing to disagree or saying sorry or OK we won’t discuss it here…

Just wondering @ 04/03/2007 at 8:47 pm

Aww that was like right before the pregnancy announcement. wasn’t it?

If this interview is true james haven must be hard up for some cash. i wonder if Angelina supports him? Maybe she decided to cut the purse strings.

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Shiloh would be a six-footer? Says:
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Shiloh will probably be a tall woman.

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tabitha

It is not a political statement, it is fact. He was advised not to go into Iraq, and he went. Now we are there and the war has no ending. He is in denial even after his advisors advised him. I said it is like the haters who are into denial about the divorce of Brad and the x. That is a statement of fact no matter what your potical beliefs are. No offense were intended. It is a straightforward statement that was not meant to offend anyone. Anyone who was offended truly sorry. Let’s not look for something when it is not there, especially from me. Peace.

Thank you JJ. Whatever the source (tabloid or not) true or fake it is a very positive interview. I think the fans (including myself) are getting antsy that we haven’t seen any recent pitures of the whole family since Angie came back from Vietnam. Are they in L.A. or in NOLA?
As for the fact that Brad and JA/Arquettes were photographed in Anguilla (and Brad was even kissing JA) then the news came out that they are calling it quits. That final honeymoon, Brad was saying goodbye. Even JA said in an interview in Vanity Fair, that we entered and exit our relationship with love and respect for each other. I think Jessica and Nick did the same thing when they went to Italy before their announcement of separation.
It was even a “rumor” (just a rumor) that Brad was calling Angie on his cell phone whenever he can break away from the Arquettes and JA while in Anguilla. Sounds like a tabloid scoop though.

Well sweet heart keep on Just Wondering. Angie and James will always be very close and they lost their ONLY parent recently so keep your ugly imagination wondering in a different direction. BTW—don’t you have better things to do, like Just Wondering about how your idol is doing :-)

Guli- looks like you spoke too soon. :(

Let’s not turn the thread into a political discussion please. We are here for bampzs, let’s try our best to keep that in mind. :)

Shaking My head @ 04/03/2007 at 9:04 pm

Dina #1
Enough already, this is not the place. Go to CNN.com

Shiloh looks so much like her Mom in that photo just posted. I am beginning to think that Shiloh is going to wind up looking more like her Mom than Dad. Though she is going to be beautiful no matter what mix of her parents genes wind up being dominant.

To DINA #1 @ 04/03/2007 at 9:05 pm

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dina#1 Says:

April 3rd, 2007 at 8:51 pm - flag comment
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tabitha

It is not a political statement, it is fact. He was advised not to go into Iraq, and he went. Now we are there and the war has no ending. He is in denial even after his advisors advised him. I said it is like the haters who are into denial about the divorce of Brad and the x. That is a statement of fact no matter what your potical beliefs are. No offense were intended. It is a straightforward statement that was not meant to offend anyone. Anyone who was offended truly sorry. Let’s not look for something when it is not there, especially from me. Peace.
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Glad you said that because I, for one, don’t like to have my opinion made for me. Not everyone, NOT ME, believes Bush is or was wrong. And while YOU may think the war will have no end, you speak for YOURSELF. You offend ME because I am where YOU will never be. There are many ways to help people, DINA #1, and many ways something comes about in order for those people to get help and if America starting a war was the way for these people to get help then so be it. You may not like that we came here but because we are here many, many people have gotten the kind of help that people like you ignore. All you see is politics and not the daily lives of these people and unless you come here YOU will never see the improvement we’ve made. Out of your 3300 dead that YOU think should not have come here you can discount at least two that gave their lives and whose families are proud of the help they gave while alive. Sorry fellow BAMPZS fans but I had to respond and that’s all I will say on that subject.

coalharbourqt @ 04/03/2007 at 9:06 pm

Hi BAMPZS fans - just popping my head in to say a quick hello - no new pics and that’s alright. Not sure what to make of this interview re: veracity but to Frenchy (#53) I gotta say I agree - way to break it down!

Was trying to catch up on the last thread and just really enjoyed the article posted by leetle UN about the truth regarding the adoption of Pax. THANK YOU!

Hope you all are well! Pax & Hugs :-)

Mondo Bongo! @ 04/03/2007 at 9:09 pm

Hmmmmm.. yeah…. well!!!!

Wish i could do a jig..it sounds gooood,but all i can do is ~ sigh!!!!

Hiya Susie, just here long enough to say a quick hello to you. Haven’t talked to you since Saturday. How’s Sheri?

Hey Susie— I think they’ll be OK.

But I am cracking up about this so called concerned hater who thinks Angie is about to die :lol: :lol: Sweetheart, in your dreams and what a sick person you are to even type that c*ap, I swear you haters are really mental….

Hiya Sheri, I know you have work to do, just wanted to say hey :-) Susie and Sheri I am down loading the SC pics now, I’ll share it soon…

Please go to an older thread to talk politics. We had this before and it only starts trouble.

coalharbourqt @ 04/03/2007 at 9:11 pm

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Just wondering Says:
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What an odd comment to make - do you know James well enough to know how he pays his bills and what his financial situation is? Where in the interview did it say he was paid for his comments?

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tabitha

None of us know where anyone comes from. But if this upset you please accept my apology for that was my intent. Bad attempt at being funny. So if you will accept my apology, shake hands and let it go. I for one don’t want to argue, or cause anyone to feel badly. That is not my mission in life. If I can’t make you laugh, I surely don’t want to make you feel badly. Peace.

leetle UN @ 04/03/2007 at 9:15 pm

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Montserrat Says:
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Leetle UN:
Thank you for that article. I have to say that this past year was an eye opener for me with regards to the press and Angie. I wish we could post it on every blog site.

Also, I wrote a note to you on another thread about what to do with your son’s curly hair. I have a boy also who, as a classmate called him, is a “curly Shirley.” To comb his hair daily, I use a heavy conditioner which I do not wash out and the comb with a wide tooth comb. Hope this helps.

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To Montserrat and all others who wrote to thank me for posting that article about Angie’s adoption…..thank you!!! I am just returned from hauling all three of my kids (all adopted, all under eight) and their young friend from school and my brother and his wife who are visiting from the Midwest to Mount Vernon, south of Washington, and I am BEAT!!! It must have been 80 degrees today. Never go to Mount Vernon during Easter week. The line to get into George Washington’s mansion was two hours long. We gave up after not moving in that line for 20 minutes in the heat and did the fantastic new interactive museum there instead.

Montserrat I will try hair solution this on my boy’s hair; thanks so much! A wide-tooth comb is counter-intuitive for me.. I was trying to use a soft bristle brush on him. Also, I used to use high-end leave-in conditioner on my own hair. I know where to get it….at the hairdresser’s. I will try this for my four-year-old from Ethiopia.

Anyway, for those who missed the great article I posted on that last thread, here it is. I love it because all adoptive moms know that CHASING ADOPTION PAPERWORK IS HARD HARD WORK and no one is above it. No matter how rich you are you can’t hire someone to do most of it for you. Angie is not above the law and she went through so much to get all three of her aoptive kids, PAx included. I can only imagine how hard the family is working now to adjust…Pax to his new family and they to him. But they have him now, and that is the most important thing.

Angelina Jolie’s Adoption
The Media’s Obsession and the Truth
April 01,2007 / Martha Osborne

Everyone, including my own mother, knows by now that Angelina Jolie traveled to Vietnam in March and adopted a 3-year-old little boy from the Tam Binh orphanage in Vietnam . The world seems glued to the drama of this mega-star and her adoption of her son,. Pax Thien Jolie.

There’s been quite an uproar in the adoption community. Email lists, bulletin boards and phones are alight with questions and speculation. And yet the general press appears frequently to get the story half-right, or never to address the questions closest to our hearts. We adoptive families are both part of the general populace, and also a world unto ourselves. The masses may wonder about this movie-star-mom growing her family in ‘alternate’ ways, while the adoptive community hosts quite a different range of inquiries. Questions such as:

* Did Angelina choose her child? (the answer is no )
* Why did Angelina only spend a week in Vietnam while other adoptive families spend 2-3 weeks processing their paperwork?
* How did Angelina adopt a child as a single parent when she was living with Brad Pitt?
* Did Angelina pay to expedite her adoption?
* Are Brad and Angelina adopting to expand their fame?

In the big picture, there is one side of this story; the story the entire world will hear and unfortunately, believe. In our world, there is the following story. One which involves most of those involved in this adoption and which I know to be the truth after talking to many of the parties involved. But first, let us be fair and address the history of this situation. In the end, all of the questions will be answered.

The unfortunate tabloid-fueled presentation to the world is this: Angelina Jolie: Movie Star and Collector of Children , went to Vietnam on a whim, ended up arbitrarily visiting an orphanage in November of 2006, picked out a child to add to her string of multicultural kids, and paid bribes to the Vietnamese government and to an US adoption agency to make it happen fast.

This is clichéd fiction that people accumulatively pay millions in magazine prices to read.

The truth is, Angelina Jolie is the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) Goodwill Ambassador and mother of 4, three through adoption. As a UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador, Angelina uses her status as a superstar to generate media coverage about the plight of refugees and the conditions under which they live. She has traveled widely to remote refugee camps and receiving centers in countries including Tanzania, Namibia, Cambodia, Pakistan, Thailand, and Ecuador.

She has met thousands of men, women, and children forced to flee from their homes and struggle to survive as refugees. “You go to these places and you realize what life’s really about and what people are really going through,” says Angelina. “These people are my heroes.”

As adoptive parents, knowing this about Ms. Jolie, why wouldn’t we understand her desire, on a much more private level, to make a difference in the lives of the children that she so often witnessed suffering?

When adopting Maddox, Ms. Jolie had been filming in Cambodia for nearly a year; Living and working day-by-day with the people of that country. Nothing actually divides Ms. Jolie from any of us, except that generally Americans have grown used to our movie stars being dysfunctional, political, self-aggrandizing personalities. So how do we handle a mega-star adopting? A truly crazy-famous, strong, intelligent activist woman who chooses to build her life and family in her own style?

I believe the answer is: we follow her example. We embrace that which does no harm, but only seeks to promote the welfare of children. Many will argue that adopting as an unmarried couple negates the good of giving a child a family. Though on one side this may appear to be a moral issue, the question also must be asked, Who will parent all the children in orphanages?

Surely, loving this or any child cannot be wrong. And legally, since Ms. Jolie is not married she had to adopt as a single parent. Vietnamese law states that you have to be single or a married couple (man/woman) - since she isn’t married she had to adopt single. The requirements of Vietnam do not state that you can’t live with anyone. Each agency must make their own choice of whom they will accept as applicants. And each family must also choose: how will they grow?

For Ms. Jolie and Mr. Brad Pitt, the answer has been more complicated than what the world may view as ‘normal’. But as adoptive parents, how can we not embrace their choices? After visiting numerous orphanages and privately saying to myself, “If only I had the finances,” and finding myself wanting to do so much more, I know I am not alone in understanding how someone could choose this eclectic but fulfilling way to build a family. How much more so it must be for someone who regularly travels to refugee homes and orphanages to do humanitarian work?

However, the world press, those who crushed her windshield while in Vietnam, attacked her car, released private information to the world including her new son’s passport and her adoption papers, they aren’t interested in you hearing about her good works. The supported schools, AIDS programs, new water wells or medical programs for orphans. You’ve heard their version of this story already.

Now I’m going to tell you the real story.

In the early summer of 2006, Ms. Angelina Jolie: Mother, Partner and parent with Brad Pitt, movie star and humanitarian worker was visiting with her daughter Zahara’s pediatrician, Dr. Jane Aronson.

Ms. Jolie had already gone through the homestudy process, approving her to adopt internationally. Dr. Jane is the founder of Worldwide Orphans Foundation (did you really think I could resist a plug for a wonderful charity?) which has done amazing work with orphans in Ethiopia . Dr. Jane has also adopted from Vietnam and Ethiopia . However the conversation may have gone, a call was soon made to the Pennsylvania adoption agency, Adoptions from the Heart .

“It was truly fate,” Vietnam adoption coordinator for AFTH Heidi Gonzalez reports. “This 3-year-old boy from Vietnam had been living in his orphanage since shortly after his birth. Our agency had (just prior to Ms. Jolie’s inquiry) recently received his referral and the report of what a wonderful little boy he is. His file was on my desk at the moment I received the call. Despite what others may believe, this was the first and only child presented to Ms. Jolie. It was meant to be.”

Adoptions from the Heart accepted the challenging opportunity to assist this young boy in finding his family. “We have been working with Vietnam since 1995. There were years when we supported the children and orphanages when adoption was closed to the US . Every child is precious to us, and we work for the best interest of each child, regardless of whether or not adoption is in his or her future,” Ms. Gonzalez stated.

In November of 2006, Ms. Jolie visited her son’s orphanage, though she knew her adoption was months away from being complete. “She chose to visit the toddler room in general, not to single him out,” shared Ms. Gonzalez, “in January she knew it was getting close, and she visited individually with Pax to begin the bonding process.” By this time, the Vietnam government had Ms. Jolie’s CIS approval and the first leak of the adoption had reached the world-wide press.

“Before that time, there were only two people in our office who knew of the adoption. Her file was kept under lock and key in my office,” said Ms. Gonzalez. Security, lawyers, hand-carrying documents and working with personal assistants were the norm. So, was this adoption that much different from others?

“Looking back, I guess you might see it that way. But on a day-to-day basis, not really. We had a single mom who was focused on her child. She wanted to make sure he was cared for and safe and the side-bar was keeping the news of the adoption from the media. She was doing a movie in India for part of the process and on a few hours notice she would fly in, exhausted, to re-do fingerprints or do one last homestudy update,” said Ms. Gonzalez, “The biggest difference was when it was time to travel for the actual adoption. We had to work with her security team and Vietnam, run through the process with them for when she would arrive, look at the security risks in each location and figure out how to minimize any problems. That was definitely different.”

The hardest part for everyone involved materialized in Ho Chi Minh City . The reports of the ridiculous actions of the press were understated. They attacked her car, breaking the windshield, attempting to puncture the tires in order to take more photos, relentlessly invading the cherished time that most adoptive parents, and presumably Ms. Jolie as well, see as priceless: That in-country bonding week or two. It was not possible to be just another adoptive parent. She had to be Angelina Jolie The Movie Star . Her adoption signing was accompanied by the Vietnamese press, she was requested to submit to being interviewed by a Vietnamese government newspaper just hours after receiving her son, and gracefully accepted being photographed for hours with government officials. She was there to adopt a childa private personal experience that was very special to her and to all adoptive parents.

And she missed it. She didn’t get that precious, private experience.

“She really had no problem doing interviews or sharing her photos. She had her own photographer with her, and simply asked that the privacy of all her children be respected. She wanted to have the process be special and private for her family. Unfortunately she didn’t have that opportunity,” said Ms. Gonzalez.

Imagine if you were in a taxi with your newest child on your lap, your cherished toddler to whom you had longed to show your love and bring into your family. Strangers were attacking the car, their mouths screaming, faces contorted, and cameras flashing into the cab of the vehicle. The world appears to desire to blame the Star. The person who wishes to build her family in a similar way that we adoptive-families build our own.

Are we part of that world? As individuals in the adoption community, we should band together and support all people who build their families through adoption.

Although accused of requesting and receiving preferential treatment due to only spending one week in Vietnam after the adoption of Pax (the normal time is 2 1/2 weeks), the truth is that the Vietnamese passport office processed Pax’s passport in one day due to the media’s outrageous and destructive behavior. Ms. Jolie and her family left only after it was apparent that there would be no ability to explore Vietnam as a family, and airline ticket dates were changed for everyone.

The final question, the one many silently contemplate is this:

“What sort of Normal life will Pax Thien Jolie, or any of the children of Mega Movie Stars, live?”

I imagine that it will not be ‘normal’, as I or many others may see it. Or maybe it will. It all depends on how you look at the situation. But is that so terrible? Millions of people live normal lives. They’re not UN representatives. They don’t raise funds for AIDS orphans in Ethiopia, or drill wells for clean drinking water. I know of lots of normal and not-so-normal people who are to be admired. But the ones I respect most, all seem to have the same name and title:

Mom.

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not here Says:

Read apology #95.

Apology accepted. I bought The Good Sheperd today. There does not seem to be much extra features other than some deleted scenes. The HDDVD version supposedly has the table reading between Angie,Matt, and Robert De Niro. I really liked this movie.

Okay, I got my Sanjaya fix. Desperate people on here tonight. People should get past tab rumors about AJ health and weight. I suspect that AJ is a lot healthier than the haters that sit on a blog waiting for bad things to happen. AJ sure looks healthy carrying all those babies and tots not to mentioned all that marathon sex with BP (Okay I am fantasizing) but what the hey.

Hiya back Ameena, how are you? I haven’t been on much cuz it’s slow but I did have fun this afternoon with Guli posting ugly pictures. :lol:

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