OlderAlec Baldwin’s Phone Tirade With Daughter
Alec Baldwin left an extremely angry voicemail for his and ex-wife Kim Basinger’s 11-year-old daughter Ireland Baldwin when he couldn’t get in touch with her, as reported by TMZ yesterday. Here’s the transcript:
Hey I want to tell you something, okay, and I want to leave a message for you right now, cos again it’s 10:30 her in New York on a Wednesday and once again, I have made an ass of myself trying to get to a phone to call you at a specific time. When the time comes for me to make the phone call, I stop whatever I’m doing and I go and I make that phone call at 11 o’clock in the morning in New York and if you don’t pick up the phone at 10 o’clock at night and you don’t even have that goddamn phone turned on.
I’m tired of playing this game with you. I’m leaving this message for you to tell you that you have insulted me for the last time. You have insulted me. You don’t have the brains or the decency as a human being… I don’t give a damn that you’re 12 years old or 11 years old, or a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn’t care about what you do as far as I’m concerned.
You have humiliated me for the last time with this phone and when I come out there next week. I’m going to fly out there for the day just to straighten you out on this issue. I’m going to let you know just how disappointed in you that I am and how angry I am with you that you’ve done this to me again.
You made me feel like s*** and you’ve made me feel like a fool over and over and over again. And this crap you pull on me with this goddamn phone situation that you would never dream of doing to your mother and you do it to me constantly and over and over again. I am going to get on a plane and I am going to straighten your ass out when I see you.
Do you understand me? I am going to really make sure you get it. That I’m going to get on a plane and I’m gonna turn around and come home. So you better be ready Friday the 20th to meet with me. So I’m going to let you know how I feel, about what a rude little pig you really are. You are a rude thoughtless little pig. Okay?
Basinger’s publicist Annette Wolfe said, “The voicemail speaks for itself.”
Baldwin’s spokesperson told Extra, “In the best interest of the child, Alec will do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing … keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order. The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order. Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years.”
You can listen to Alec Baldwin’s angry voicemail to Ireland here.
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Sounds like Alec is the pig in this scenario - if I were a judge I’d throw his fat ass in jail!
Oh boo hoo, poor widdle Alec’s feewings are hurt. What an A S S! You never speak to a child like that, no matter how angry or frustrated you may be by your situation or your divorce. He’s just confirmed that he is the controlling, abusive chauvinist that I always thought he probably was behind closed doors.
Do I even need to point out that it sounds like he is having great difficulty figuring out time zones? If his set time for the call is 11, why is he yelling at her in a voicemail about it at 10:30? The man doesn’t even make sense.
And the whole “I’m going to fly out there and straighten you out” rant - sounds menacing. The poor kid is probably terrified of her father, and with good reason. Any wonder that Kim left him? The only pig in that family is Alec Baldwin himself.
He needs anger management & parenting classes. Who the f**k talks like that to a child. So the kid missed a call? she’s child you have no idea if she’s a brat or not.
Alec is a prick in every situation. Remember when Cory Lidle’s plane crash closed the street & Baldwin was screaming and ranting that he had to get through? He’s rude at resturants. If anyone is fat f**king pig it’s him.
he messed up. name a parent who doesn’t? he certainly was out of line a couple of times. but, a lot of it, was what many people get with an angry parent. it’s not to excuse, but hopefully they can all move past it.
Fug - I think Alec is doing a good job of turning her against him all by himself.
PS - your comment has been flagged for the beating comment. Get some psychiatric help.
I really don’t think he has said anything so terrible.
He just sounds as if he has been treated really badly and felt really hurt and betrayed.
I do think the child should have respected her father enough to answer the phone if it was prearranged.
I agree with cheesecake.
I agree with cheesecake, this is usually what a frustrated parent would tell a child who does not do as he/she is told (as it is a prearranged call, she should know, after all, she is 11, not 5). And if Kim leaked this, then you know it is not only Alec who has issues, Kim has too. Actually, I think both Kim and Alec should never have had any children, they both seem to be using Ireland for their not-so-hidden agendas.
It’s reads as thought he really has Kim Basinger in mind not his daughter. You know, people make mistakes. Why is there such an issue regarding custody of their daughter? Could they possibly hate each other more….that’s really healthy for the daughter.
The transcript of the phone conversation can across as abusive and threatening. Some celebrities seem to get a free ride or excuses galore, while others are raked over the coals when their words are taken out of context. Children at that age are often thoughtless, busy doing different activities or forget to charge or turn a phone on. It happens. It is unfortunate that this tape was released because it shows a man that can clearly get out of control. No matter how angry a parent is, no child should be called a pig or other derogatory names. Hopefully, Baldwin will get anger management.
I agree that this no way to speak to a child but what kind of mother uses her child this way to get back at her former husband. Ireland is the victim here: her father when speaking to her forgets she’s a child and her mother is manipulative.
And the father (douche-bag) of the year award goes to…Alec Baldwin. For those of you who are actually trying to rationalize his tirade towards his daughter, remember she’s only 11. You don’t talk this way to a child ever. I don’t give a sh*t how bad a day he might of had, his tone towards his daughter is utterly dispicable.
of course kim leaked this, she HATES alac
What kind of people are you posting on this board? Can you honestly think that this kind of tirade can be justified? The man is an ADULT, he should control his anger better. You can discipline a child and express your displeasure without threatening the kid or calling her names. Anyone who talks to an 11 year old this way shouldn’t have one.
I don’t care how mad he was, it’s not about HIS anger, it’s about teaching her something, and you can do that very effectively without ever raising your voice or calling her names.
The mother is the B#$%& for all I care. She leaked that message on purpose to get back at her ex. He’s still a deranged pig though. Poor kid, she has two delisuional parents who can’t get past their differences and get along for the sake of the child. This type of situation happens all the time with “normal” folks, what’s the big deal, just because they’re famous. When was the last time either one of them did any revelant work in Hollywood. I don’t she’s been in a movie since like the 90’s or early 2000.
If it were not for the calling her a “pig”, and not being real sure how old she is (tweve? eleven?), you might feel some sympathy for Alec if you were only reading these words, not hearing them. However, the amazing power of hearing his tone, the way he surges with furry and hate, the way he repeats and repeats what he is going to do, is straight out of the Abusive Parent/ Spouse Handbook. If this were my daughter this man would not get within five miles of her ever, ever again. I believe this will get him back in court. Think of how many abusive people do this every day to their families but never leave them evidence like this. Repulsive, horrid. I will never see an Alec Baldwin movie again, Oh and Good Luck trying to get a date after this, Alec!
WOW! That poor child is being played in their gross game of who hates who more. Guess they never heard the saying “love your child more then you hate your ex” Both parents are incredible selfish and need serious help.
Don’t just read the words. Listen to them. Makes a BIG difference….
[17] - in actuality alec has been relevant in Hollywood. kim not at all.
How on EARTH can people be defending Alec and saying the child deserved this?! What horrid people you are!!!! Children make mistakes, that’s why they are CHILDREN! They never, ever, ever deserve to be spoken to like this from their own father. Horrifying. I hope that girl never has to seem this douchebag again.
By seem, I of course meant “see”
I have no words.
Pigs like that should be restrained rfom being around children.
He sounds threatening and should not come near that little girl.
I feel so sorry for Ireland. This can’t make her ever feel good.
What a jerk, he is.
This should never have been released. We don’t know the whole story.
This constitutes as VERBAL CHILD ABUSE. If Alec wasn’t a celeb, but just a dad who got a divorce, that mother would call the police so fast it wouldn’t be funny. I’m happy the tape was released, just so that Ireland doesn’t feel like she’s personally being victimized. Now this is a much bigger thing and will have much bigger consequences.
I wish people would stop saying “he just lost his temper” and things like that. Would you tell a child whose parent hits them that daddy just lost his temper? No, you’d tell them to report his ass.
i agree with sparrow. although i think raising your voice (as a parent) to get a point across is normal, the name-calling and threats are definitely not. i think what struck me most was how he kept repeating that he was “INSULTED” by her. a parent can and should feel disappointed when his child lets him down, but insulted? i dunno.. there’s just something weird about that. that’s some very serious pride issues. it’s really putting yourself and your needs above the child’s well-being… people like that aren’t fit to be parents.
He is in an absolute rage over a missed phone call. He scared me and i’m not even at the other end of the phone! Calling her a pig and threatening her with what????He sounds like he wants to beat the crap out of her. If I were his daughter , I wouldn’t call his a s s either!
How did the media (TMZ) get a hold of the recorded message?
Every sicko can have a kid. Sad world.
I think that we don’t really know what is happening there but neither of them sound too healthy. They should go and rent good foster parents for their daughter (with all that money they spend on lawyers…its been 12 years already…let it go).
This is So not our business. Kim’s an ass for releasing it.
Oh f*ck you people.
You have ZERO knowledge of background or context yet you’re so immediately opinionated.
VERBAL CHILD ABUSE? are you kidding me? No wonder kids get away with everything these days. WTF is verbal child abuse? Now you can’t even yell at a kid? You guys are pathetic. Your kids will own you. Manipulate you. And NEVER respect you.
For all you know this kids been caught snorting blow off her thermos. Mommy doesn’t mind though cause she’s a f*cking airhead. Big bad daddy…well he should be banned from seeing her?
Grow up. Seriously grow the f*ck up.
This obviously has to do with much more than the missed phone call. He’s trying to parent remotely while his bimbo ex wife neglects her and when she keeps missing the calls what’s he supposed to do?
You can’t reason with unformed minds. You can’t command respect through logic.
Bah…waste of breathe with your idiots sometimes.
I can’t understand how any of you can justify what this father said to his “child”. He called her a pig and some of you can understand how he would say that? Do you talk to your own children like this? I hope not. A child should never be spoken to like that. I believe he has lost his visitation with the child until a hearing in May. I heard that on the radio and don’t know if it is true or not. I don’t blame Kim Basinger if she did leak this tape to the media. She is protecting her child. Now people will see why she is fighting him so hard for custody.
Kim Basinger labeled her ex as a bully and I believe her. Basinger is a gentle soul who wouldn’t hurt a fly. She adores her kid. She’s southern and loves animals and nature. Abusive men go out of their way to look normal and convince outsiders that they are the good guys. That’s why the police often don’t arrest them until they’ve murdered somebody and that’s why some of you are sticking up for him. Don’t be fooled by Alec’s good looks and charm. He broods and has a fiery Irish temper. I can see the aggression in his eyes and his body language. He keeps getting tough-guy roles in film because he’s perfect for them. Ever since her divorce from Alec, Kim seems like a wounded animal. She has shrunk from the public eye. I think things were so bad and he depressed her so much that now she wants to live alone. She’s seemed depressed ever since and her self esteem is much lower than it used to be. It would have been best if Kim hadn’t had a child with Alec because she could get away from him for good. No ties. She has a lot of anger toward him now that they are apart and the full effects of their relationship have hit her. Alec is just mad that she divorced him. He never wanted to divorce Kim. Everyone can see that if it was possible, he would love to have “crazy Kim” back. He has not progressed at all.
Ha ha! The best part is how he couldn’t even remember her age. What a jack A S S.
I grew up in the same town as this F**ker…he is a Loser…..if you don’t know what abuse is…listen closely…that is ABUSE!!!! Do yourself a favor Alec (used to be alex like his dad) and get some help! Stop blaming EVERYONE else for your pathetic behavior!
“..It’s reads as thought he really has Kim Basinger in mind not his daughter.”
Absolutely and there is no excuse whatsoever for behaving like that to his 11 year old daughter, and imo no excuse for making this message public either!
HE and her mother is supposed to be the adults here! Poor little girl to be used like this in her parent´s everlasting quarrels and battles! One can´t help feeling sorry for a child who has to grow up with, and depend on irresponsible, capricious, and self-centred people as parents!
magnus either you come from an abusive home or you have no idea what you are talking about!!!
The mother did the right thing by publicly releasing that verbal attack on a child before he got the chance to carry out the threat to “straighten her out” in person. What in the hell would that involve? If that’s how he treats his daughter for merely not answering the phone, he must’ve put his wife through hell. He must be one scary S.O.A.B. in private.
lol
abusive home.
Call when after you bail your kids out of jail.
If you actually had even met Alec you’d know he’s awesome and his ex wife is a neo-hippie LA lunatic.
He just doesn’t his kid winding up like every other California spoiled brat.
ikho…you’re a total idiot and a liar.
Alec’s a douche but no one knows the whole situation except for those involved. The name calling’s harsh and people are probably upset because nowadays being tough on your kids is a no no.
He said she would never have done that to her mother? Sounds like she has respect for her mother and I’m sure It’s because her mother would never yell at her and call her a pig.
“She’s southern and loves animals and nature.”
Oh Mindy sweetie please spaaaaare me *dies laughing* Kim isn’t 5 and neither are you.
I agree with Magnus. And with Pipi.
If you don’t know how to parent your child, at least don’t let them totally destroy themselves. If they need a yelling to wake up so be it. I am however against beating/spanking children (but I don’t think he threatend this), and calling them pigs, but you could tell he was reeeeally frustrated, after all he calls her like once a week/month and - it’s arranged for crying out loud?
Alec’s just pissed because he showed his ass and got caught. I don’t care how angry you get as a parent - that guy is sick - talking to a child in such a manner. He is controlling and abusive. This person clearly has control issues -he needs to spend less time trying to control his daughter and his ex and get a grip on his damn self. Poor Ireland. I bet Kim Basinger just cringes at the thought that she chose this guy as her child’s father.
The most pathetic part of this is that instead of owning up and saying, “I couldn’t get a hold of my daughter, I was worried, I was frustrated, and I was wrong” Alec and his people try to throw it back on Kim Basinger. Sush a sad, impotent little man. Boo.
Alec and Kim are still fighting like little kids in a schoolyard.
Alec has no right to flip out on his daughter like that. What did she do to you? If I was a parent, I will respect my kids with “tough love.” Obviously, Alec has “tough” issues to deal with. Once a bully, always a bully.
My advice for Kim and Alec is to move on or get help.
And as for Kim Basinger releasing this tape to the media - KUDOS TO HER!!! It is so hard to get members of law enforcement and the courts to recognize mental abuse because it doesn’t leave bruises / scars like physical abuse. Now she has proof that Anyone reading this who is a parent understands the lengths that a mother will go to protect your child - even if it’s from his/her other parent.
Hey, we always knew that Alec Baldwin was a cockbag, but who’s worse. Baldwin or the person who leaked their dirty laundry?
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I cannot beleive that some of you are JUSTIFYING this! What kind of people are you!
I have a 13 year old daughter who will refuse to take her fathers calls and I have to hound and hound her to call him back, you know why, because in the past many times he has used this same type of verbal abuse on her and she doesn’t like talking to him. I am not at fault becuase of this, i actually try to get her to call him back, to take his calls, but he has scarred her emotionally and she finds it difficult to do this! My ex has said the exact same things about me being the crazy one, which I am not, I encourage their relationship, but no matter what, I am crazy to him. By the way my ex is inflicted with narcissitic personality disorder, and I believe this to be the case with Alec as well.
All of you justifying this cowardly action by Alex need to get a clue!
Any friend I’ve had who was terrorized or verbally abused by their parent recounts stories exactly like this one.
This sort of thing scars children.
It is inappropriate no matter how you look at it. It is damaging. It is abuse. You don’t have to hit a child to damage their sense of self.
Poor Ireland.
Magnus, Can we please drop the disguise and call you by your real name, Alec? You have unveiled your real motivation with the tone of voice you use, the repeated insults to her mother, the references to your wounded pride and your needs. Not sure of her age? Think it is OK to say she “doesn’t have brains”, isn’t a decent human being, is a pig? You don’t really love this child or want to spend time with her. You don’t like her. You just want to win, to dominate, to outdo the mother, whatever it takes.
What you do not realize is there are millions of fathers who love their children dearly yet are separated by divorce, sometimes divorce they don’t want. They may have no choice but to watch their children live with other men, move away, and even deal with brainwashing and manipulation on the part of the mothers. They deal with it with detemination, love, respect and sensitivity to what the CHILD has to deal with. They don’t put themselves first. Those are the men whose children will continue to love and respect them. Yours won’t.
“narcissitic personality disorder”
LOL
what shrink gave you that load????
That’s totally made up!!!
Oh narcissism. When did you become a buzz term for backseat high school drop out psychologist wanna bes?
Right there is the very reason he’s right. Maybe if Kathryn’s dad had been a little more of a parent to her she wouldn’t be such a joke now?
Alec, I mean magnus—-you aren’t fooling anyone. Drop the pretense and seek help immediately. If you finally recognize and get treatment for your terrible narcissistic personality disorder, otherwise known as abusive bully disorder, she may forgive you. Not for a very, very long time, but she may.
Excuse me Magass! My dad is the greatest person that ever lived you imbocile! Who the hell do you think you are! You have some serious issues and are a complete moron.
For your information my father attended every baseball game my daughter was in (6 years), he ump’ed all the games and has been a great father figure to her. Her dad attended ZERO games in 6 years.
I have returned to school after a 10 year haitus and he is paying my tuition, bought me my own condo and pays the mortgage. BOTH my parents are great people and have been married for 40 years.
You think you can analyse my life Einstein, by one post yet?
You are a fool, and anyone reading your dribble can see that…
lol magnus isn’t Alec Baldwin what do you have an eye disorder?
magnus email me at rb27ns@gmail.com (lol we seem to agree)
The truth is lots of kids are manipulative and horrible at age 11.
Children aren’t that great because sometimes they’re just everyone we’ve known and hate, just younger.
I don’t think their kid is, but honestly at age 11 you know how to piss people off on purpose. It doesn’t seem like the first time she’s done this because I think they have prearranged call times in the morning and night. I think Alec has been trying to get at least equal ground but Ireland is throwing cold water on his face and ignoring him.
I just think that Ireland is probably siding with her mother and turning off her phone with her mother’s nod of course. I feel really bad for her because ya, it won’t bode well for her own future relationships learning from these two.
Also, Kim is an ass for revealing her daughter’s home life to everyone.
I don’t think that if Ireland was fully in control of this she would let the world know she gets this kind of treatment at home.
lol there goes the “you choose your husband like your father was” theory
by they way him buying you all that **** doesnt make him a great father, just not a heartless pig. he loves you, but had he been a great father you’d be able to do all that on your own, including finding a better husband in the first place, or a good new stepfather for your child who has the misfortune to be the offspring of a horrible man in the first place. and you hound and HOUND her? poor her. don’t understand why since he isn’t a good dad in the first place and she is 13 not 7.
This is what happens when children are used as pawns in divorce. Kim has issues too. I agree with everyone who says Alec is frustrated. Sadly, it’s both Kim and Alec who are to blame. They are letting their anger at each other taint the relationship they have with their daughter, when it should be separate from their dealings with Ireland. I see this happen everyday. Parents need to learn that a child should not be used to get back at the other spouse or mate–when they do that it is abusive.
Maybe I DONT wnat a husband! Maybe I dont have time for a romantic relationship in my life right now! I work, attend full time school and have a daughter, who I love dearly and spend all my other time and energies on her. In fact, we are looking forward to having a “camp out” in the living room, roasting hot dogs and marshmellows in the fireplace and renting some movies, something we are both looking forward to.
I AM a single mother, with NOT MUCH help from her father, so my dad, the kind and loving man that he is, has stepped up and gave me the opportunity to return to school. Sorry I don’t have 25 thousand dollars to do this, and yes I was going to take a loan (I made 50 thousand a year in my previous job and could have got a loan easily), but my father offered to pay so I wouldnt come out of school in debt!
Not everyone “needs” to have a husband or boyfriened to be “fufilled” in life for your information.
My father and mother raised a strong, independent woman, sorry yours didn’t!
I saw my parents go through a nasty divorce, and my dad said some pretty bad things to us kids. Hearing this made me almost cry. No child should have to listen to their father say things to them like that. He sounded horrible. The tone in his voice scared me the most. Kim was wrong for leaking this, but I still say Alec is the most in the wrong here. There are no excuses for treating your child that way.
Whoa, Kim IS WRONG, she is displaying by example to her daughter, that it is perfectly ok to DISOBEY A COURT ORDER (second time by the way). So for all you people to justify her actions because of Alec’s rant (and really do we actually know for a fact that the daughter wasn’t ignoring his calls)…not justified in calling the girl a pig. But is justified to state that she is wrong for not taking a call on the appointed day. She’s 11, when is she supposed to learn responsibility? Both KIM AND ALEC deserve to lose custody. Kim a wonderful wouldn’t hurt a fly, by manipulating Ireland that is HURTING her (remember the town she bought — she hurt those people too).
I’m a mom of an 11 year old daughter too…she can be manipulating, experating and stubborn, and thoughtless of anyone else’s feelings. I don’t call her names but I do talk to her about how she treats others (even if that other is an adult). Parents are not to be doormats.
Everyone one of you people that are calling for his head on a platter, better stop and think how YOU would have reacted (how many times had the girl missed the appointed call? Do any of you know that?)
Ireland is the one being hurt by both parents…maybe when she’s a little older…she’ll declare emanicipation from both of her parents.
Pennagirl, sorry your daughter is like that, but you have no idea whether Ireland is like that. Do not make aasumptions that she is. Many children are not decribed as you descibed your own. My daughter has never showed disrepect or manipulation as you decribed. She’s 13 and is kind, and respectful of others. She is a honor roll student and in concert band, baseball and has a lot of friends because of her kind behavior. She helps me around the house and thanks me and others for helping her out when she needs it.
She does however, purposely miss her fathers calls because he has been verbally abusive to her and myself in the past.
Don’t put all kids in the same basket, just because your daughter is thoughtless doesn’t mean all kids her age are!
verbal abuse, verbal battering, verbal violence - the little girl will need her whole life to cope with the horrible things her father said to her she is
kim should try to get him forbidden to come close to the little girl, cause this phone call shows, how this man is violent and agressive
i know what about i am speaking, i and my sister we had similar parents - and you just need to look in your neighbourhood at shy and angstfull girls and women and ask them, how they parents behaved towards them
he is insulting, he is threatening, he is belittling, he is abusing 11 year old little child!!!!!!!
it is HER RIGHT in this world NOT TO WANT TO TALK TO HER ESTRANGED FATHER, as he has a right to try to call her - but it is not childs duty to talk to him, if it does not want - and i am sure, this outburst of VIOLENTCE and AGRESSIVENESS is not the first, this child had to survive!!!!
he should be forbidden to contact the child, till the child is adult and psychically healthy enough to may be forgive him his violence and to search contact herself
forced violent contact just kills the childs sould and lets her grow up in angst and fear and disrespect to herself - as child always believe what parent says to - no matter how horrible things that might be
Okay Kathryn you may not need a man/husband/boyfriend, but every child is better of if they have a good father.
Also Pennagirl “think how YOU would have reacted” is not good enough, because this man can’t even see his child unlike most divorced parents who are still allowed to see their kids. I cmpletely understand how angry he is.
The court and the law often do cause a lot more harm than actually help, yes sometimes they do help (like a restraining order that can save a life), but many more times it just outrages a desprate parent.
My husband’s daughter gave him a hard time especially in her teenage years, children can be selfish yes, but they are children none the less. She would do the same thing, no call or not want to visit because she was hanging with friends that weekend ect…. No matter how many times my husband got his feelings hurt, he NEVER EVER talked to his daughter this way! She’s a grown woman of 22 years now, and i am happy to say that we have a great relationship.Totally unacceptable behavior!
ITS GOOD KIM RELEASED OR LEAKED THIS VERBAL CHILD ABUSE
EVERY ABUSE SHOULD BE PUBLICIZED SO PEOPLE SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND THAT THE VICTIMS CAN GET HELP AND PROTECTION
no matter how celeb alec is, no matter how kim and alec hate each other - such a treatment is highly damaging to every human, especially when the victim is totally helpless and dependant on the abuser (and child will always be psychically and fysically dependant on behavior of its parents)
all of you, who think this is ok can count yourself happy, as it means, that you never met such a situation to be threatened by a batterer and never felt the helplessness and fear, because the person is so much stronger, and can legaly demand to have controll over you
everybody who self was abused knows, that this can kill your soul forever
Your right Sophie, I am very glad that my father has stepped into this role with vigor! He is the best father figure for her, and don’t forget 13 year olds do not accept strange men easily and I would never trapse a bunch of strange men around her just so she can have a father, she has one, not the best one, but she does, and my father sets a good example for her, as well as her other grandfather.
One last thing to add. Children need LOVE, caring and kindness. If they receive all of these they will respond the same.
If children grow up with hostility they will mirror that image.
Ireland needs LOVE from her father and I hope that he will come to his senses and shower her with it, same goes for her mother Kim.
I feel much more fortunate today, Thank you God for such a wonderful family.
And that is all I will say on this issue, I must go prepare for our Friday night campout!
Ciao
“My father and mother raised a strong, independent woman, sorry yours didn’t!”
I am glad your girl turned out to be a good one especially after such a bad father. I hope she goes on to have a good life. However, you, are not independent if your father pays for all that you said. It doesn’t matter if it’s to make your life less hard, you are still not independent. And do you honestly have to resort to insulting other to make yourself appear superior?
You insulted me first Sophie, sorry if I offended you.
Yes, my dad helps me with financials, and I would do the same for my daughter, like I said I would have paid myself, but he offered to keep me out of debt.
Again, I am sorry, I was defensive in response to your prior post. I apologise.
I hope we can put this behind us.
And I am not superior, we are all equal in society, I do not believe that anyone is better than anyone else.
I hope you have a good night!
Hmmm, I think you are the most reasonable post here! That poor child is caught in the middle and will need alot of therapy later. It does not matter if you hate your exspouse you should be adult enough to handle your children without name calling and threats!
Yeah I’m Alec Baldwin…posting on a message board.
Hey Stephen…Billy…yeah Daniel too, come’ere and take a look at this sh*t. That hag wh*re of an ex wife of mine released an audio tape clip from a phone call I made after she had my daughter miss our scheduled phone call for the 999th time. Seriously. And all these spinster cougar hags are barking like the hair lipped dogs they are about how I’m a bad guy. Daniel for f*cks sake can you drop the pipe for 2 seconds? No no one said anything about you or your buddy Jesus Stephen. Where was I? Oh yeah…all these overly opinionated and quite assuredly overweight balls of waste should start trying to fix their own damned lives before taking such an interest in mine. I mean this one chick has an absentee father and she’s spending all day on the computer. Hey r*tard, why not go after the guy for some money or hit a gym and therapist so that maybe your daughter will have a chance at growing up with a positive make influence in her life.
Time to go bang some 18 year old super models in my mansion in where ever I am right now.
SUCK IT
I am indifferent to both of them but I myself have gone off the handle like that too. People get angry and say things they wish they hadn’t. But there are parts there that are little disturbing. The man definetly has a dark side I’m sure wishes had stayed private.
Why would he not have normal visitation rights? I don’t understand , am i missing part of the story or something?
Screw Alec’s apologies. I bet this is not the first time he acted like this and to try and spin it and make it Kim’s fault for leaking the tape just goes to show how Alec cannot take responsiblity for his own actions. He actually says that it’s because he has been through so much fighting for his daughter.UMMMM SORRY, there is never too much fight when it comes to seeing your children.
I SAY GET A ROPE AND STRING HIM UP! :-(
How was he planning on straightening her ass out? Was he gonna scream at her and call her more names ? What a jerk!
I can’t stand that guy now!
HAHAH, you’re funny Magnus, Alex whoever. I love it when people assume girls are fat. I am far from it, oh great superior one lol. I’m 32 and my daughter and I are often mistaken for sisters!
I am just waiting for my daughter, who is great I might add, to return from school. I have completed 6 exams this week and have completed my first year specializing in Audiology.
And my life doesn’t need fixing, you my friend need therapy. I feel sorry for YOUR fat ass.
Have fun ******** your bimbos, it will be short lived, the demise from fame is quite hard on the privileged, I certainly don’t envy you.
And you obviously can’t read either (not to mention your terrible grammar) because my daughter has many positive male influences in her life, to bad yours does not.
I loved the movie the Departed by the way, except for your character of course.
(i know this is most likely not Alec, but it was fun to pretend :) )
Magnus is on ignore now!
Alec maybe a scum for what he said to his daughter, but Kim is a bigger scum for releasing her family personal business to the public like that. I have no more respect for her and her attorney than I do for Alec.
Poor kid.
She has two idiots she calls parents. I hope she has a strong character and lives through all these.
wow
a) this isn’t a forum you obviously substitute regular social interaction with.
b) I hate to break this to you…I’m not AleC Baldwin. The fact that you weren’t sure just illustrates your very slight grip on reality.
I really don’t know how to talk to someone like you. Maybe if I club myself in the head a few times I can converse at your level?
You are extremely stupid and all the whining and crying in the world can’t fix that.
btw: You obviously seriously DO need therapy. Maybe I should have your husband release the transcript of you thinking you were talking to Alec Baldwin on a gossip website? Crazy people are way more dangerous than stern people.
fruitcake.
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magnus Says:
April 20th, 2007 at 2:27 pm - flag comment
lol
abusive home.
Call when after you bail your kids out of jail.
If you actually had even met Alec you’d know he’s awesome and his ex wife is a neo-hippie LA lunatic.
He just doesn’t his kid winding up like every other California spoiled brat.
ikho…you’re a total idiot and a liar.
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Magnus you’re not normal and you know nothing about raising good kids. You think you know Alec Baldwin, huh? A little “Hi, how are ya” at a celebrity charity event does not mean you know the man. Judging from your attitude problem, you’re abusive too. Hothead. Get a life you loser.
wow maybe Ireland leaked the phone message. who knows maybe she and her friends got pissed off at her crazy dad for calling her a pig. payback can be a b****.
If 11 year old children behave extremely bad and violent it´s their caretakers/parents fault!!! If the child doesn´t suffer from some form av personality disorder etc and needs psychiatric or other treatment! I can very well understand how socialization à la mr Baldwin could make a child troublesome and difficult - but that is definitely not the child´s fault!
magnus, if you are not AleC Baldwin, you might as well be, baby. Both jerks. Same perverse, twisted souls. Think you like women, Hon? Think again…no real men talk or think about women the way you and your alter-ego AleC do.
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Sophie Says:
April 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pm - flag comment
lol magnus isn’t Alec Baldwin what do you have an eye disorder?
magnus email me at rb27ns@gmail.com (lol we seem to agree)
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Sophie, I know you have some issues about your looks and weight and want a man really badly, but trying to hook up with magnus? Don’t do it. I beg you woman. He’ll only beat you to a pulp and the nation will hear your story on the news.
Stay safe!
magnus, #69…( really AleC, but trying to hide behind his fake name while he feebly attempts to convince people on a gossip blog he’s/ you’re a rightous dude)…it isn’t your life we are interested in or care about. It is Ireland’s. Just like AleC/ Magnus, you don’t get that.
#53 Sophie, please don’t be serious. Please be an undercover cop hoping to I.D. this guy. Better yet, be Kim’s lawyer, collecting the evidence to prove that Alec is here posing as magnus for future use in court…anything but someone using Just Jared as a singles site, hoping to hook up with this guy…
82- hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahhaahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah!
Busted!
Oh my god, that’s a little much for a eleven year old in my opinion. Obviously they were stupid for releasing it and it is no one’s business. After to listen to his message agh; I would run and hide. That is sick.
Kathryn you didn’t offend me I just thought really low of someone to presume something as mean as that. Low thinking you know, and I hate to see it out of people like you. Email me okay ( rb27ns@gmail.com ) !! Good luck with the “camping” lol !!
Icky I don’t want to hook up(?) with Magnus. I just want to talk to someone with my email. I do have food issues though I hate junk food, and when I was a kid if I overate I’d be really sick and throw up, so I can’t eat big portions, so I can only eat small or normal portions, but I think chewing it well is boring as is pretty much eating as well. At the end I work around the house almost all day, and I enjoy sports, and after all that I can’t seem to put on any weight!!?!!.. I also LOVE to snack on apples. I actually force myself to eat these really caloric meals that you can buy because three times I got to skinny and messed up my period *sigh*. I don’t look like I am underfed now thank God… As far as my looks I am very happy.
magnus email me.
thanks.
Oh and Icky please email me too!
I’m glad it was released. Kim and her lawyers need not explain further. Alec hung himself. This is abuse of parental power. The poor girl must be terrified of him. Imagine having a prearranged visitation with a father like this - she wouldn’t know when he lashes out in anger. How would she ever know if she is safe?!
Now imagine being married to him? “Pig” name calling must have been mild. Hanging out with this guy would destroy anyone’s self esteem.
Wow, he sounds really angry. I get that he is mad that she keeps missing his phone calls but to talk to a kid like that is just awful. She is only 11 or 12 and the way he speaks to her, he acts as if she is manipulative and purposely being hurtful, which i highly doubt. Both parents should be ashamed of themselves. This poor kid is going to be so messed up when she grows up. She should be taken away from both of them.
If Basinger leaked the info, she did it to prove what an insensitive jerk Baldwin really is. It seems not long ago Basinger said some comment to the tune of Baldwin being mean to their daughter, but she had no proof and no one would believe her. Well, this is her proof. Basinger did the right thing.
My fear is that the custody order will be changed. If Baldwin is a mad lunatic now, he’s going to be a real raging bull then! Wild, uncontrollable anger has led many people to murder. Basinger needs to tread… very carefully.
alec rocks!
Really rude…and totally uncalled for…where does he get off speaking to his daughter in such a manner…he needs a bloody good slap if you ask me! Sounds like a nasty piece of work..god knows how he treats her behind closed doors..he ought to be ashamed of himself…that is not an example of good parenting…hope that the **** learns from his behaviour and changes his ways!
Claims that a wife or girlfriend has emotional problems is a common charge of abusive men. It is also a way to destroy a woman’s self-esteem. They’ll tell you to your face that you’re nuts again and again, in hopes that it sinks in and you believe them. Once you start doubting yourself, they have gained control over your life.. A lot of abused women do seem a little abnormal after a while because they sink into a state of sadness and exhaustion. Kim was a beautiful, successful actress, happy and vibrant. The first time someone complained of her on-set behavior was when she did her first movie with guess who? Alec Baldwin.
Now all of Baldwin’s family and friends can rally around him with support, but it still doesn’t change the fact that he called his own flesh and blood a pig. He wasn’t just angry, he was abusive. Those words are used to hurt and to destroy her self esteem. In order to change, he has to acknowledge he has a problem. He hasn’t done that. He can’t abuse his ex-wife, so he passed it on to the daughter. I hope he doesn’t have a dog.
Kim is more of a nutjob then Alec. When your own mother says you are using the child against the father then there is smoke. Neither parent is fit for this child and she should be removed and put in the social services system. Maybe without the luxuries provided by a guilty father and a manipulative mother she might develop some character and stability, as it is now the odds are against her and she may very well be a brat already.
^^LOL!! I only said ****! how is that offensive lol?
Neither parent is fit because they haven’t been able to get over their anger. They both need therapy.
I’d take what Kim’s mother said with a grain of salt. She has always been jealous and envious of her daughter’s beauty and fame. That’s why they are not close today. That woman needs to keep her trap shut.
Alec said, “You don’t have the brains or the decency as a human being…YOU made me feel like s*** and YOU’ve made me feel like a fool over and over and over again. YOU have humiliated me for the last time… how angry I am with you that YOU’ve done this to me again.” These statements are clearly emotionally and verbally abusive. This grown man is responsible for his own feelings and he shouldn’t blame anyone for HIS feelings, especially a child! “You made me feel” is a common claim made by abusers. That and “if you would only do as I say, I wouldn’t have to be this way.” Mr. Baldwin needs some counseling and domestic abuse intervention.
He was spitting nails at his little gir! Someone mentioned that maybe he had in his mind Kim but spewing it to his daughter…If that’s the case he’s really f’ed up. In his tirade he was in such a trance that he got delusional and was thinking Kim. From the sound of his voice, we can gather that this is not the first or last time for a tirade like this. The TONE, not the volume of his voice is what’s scary. What requires him to get on a plane to “straighten her out”? You can’t straighten her out over the phone? What is he gonna do that requires his presence? America, this is the era of no excuses. I’m sorry but there is no excuse for calling your children farm animals. There is no excuse for “losing it”. If you have no no self discipline and self control as an adult then you have serious problems. The adult has to be the adult and not “lose it” at all costs….Stop the excuses. Nobody wants to hear them. Stop trying to be “friends” with your kids. Stop trying to be cool and hip and “with it” with your kids friends. As for Kim leaking them..I kinda thought that it would have been Ireland..If anyone was in the position of losing it, it’s her. She should emancipate herself at 15. Alec will always be an angry abusive man who hits women and children. His problem is DEEP people.
I don’t blame the kid for not answering his call…this probably isn’t the first time he’s talked to his daughter like this, it’s just his sorry a*s got CAUGHT this time!
Magnus I have 3 words for you–Seek Professional Help!
Harvey Levin is an evil pathetic cretin, to have broadcasted this. The broadcasting of this is more damaging to the child, than hat her fatgher did. this should have remained a family matter. Thanks to the evils of Havey Levin and TMZ, now the child is publicly embarrassed. Also I fault Kim Bassinger for releasing this to the public. What mother would embarrass her child that this.
Dang I have to correct my typos:
Harvey Levin is an evil pathetic cretin, to have broadcasted this. The broadcasting of this is more damaging to the child, than what her father did. This should have remained a family matter. Thanks to the evils of Harvey Levin and TMZ, now the child is publicly embarrassed. Also I fault Kim Bassinger for releasing this to the public, what mother would embarrass her child that this.
How the hell can Kim justify releasing this to the public. What Alec did was wrong but Kim did more damage by releasing it to the public.
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Monkey Says:
April 20th, 2007 at 2:55 pm - flag comment
Hey, we always knew that Alec Baldwin was a cockbag, but who’s worse. Baldwin or the person who leaked their dirty laundry?
http://www.Speedmonkey.net
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I Kim is worse. I think Kim did more damage to her child by releasing this to the public, she should have handled it in private.
We wouldn’t have to worry about the debate on whether it should of been released or not… if Alec would of kept his BIG mouth shut and controlled his anger! I’m sure Alec mocking Ireland’s dancing skills on Letterman hours before the call was made was embarassing enough for an 11 year old but to then have her father call her a couple hours laters and ripped her a new a*shole shows just what an a-hole ALEC is!
I think by Kim releasing this, just shows how manipulative and spiteful she is. She probabaly kept the child from calling Alec.
I also think Harvey Levin and the TMZ staff are evil for broadcasting this, to further hurt the child.
I think she did the right thing by releasing it, like I said before this probably isn’t the first time he has talked to his daughter in this degrading and demeening way and maybe this is what it will take to put an END to it!
I can’t believe some of you are blaming this child for this, as if she deserved it, as if she asked for it… no child deserves to be talked to in this manner whatsoever! She’s a human not a frickin’ animal! I feel bad for her, her father is a timebomb waiting to go off!
#99 you are completely right!!!!! Typical abusive behavior.
I honestly pity the guy. I know he’s famous for his short temper and all, but he just seems to be hurt and frustrated that he keeps being trated badly by Kim and/or her daughter. And for her to release it? Dude, that’s not playing fair at all.
wow. when i read that i thought it wasnt so harsh compared to the things that my dad has said to me in the past. and then i read everyone elses comments and a majority of you guys say “you shouldnt speak to a child like that”…….i swear hitler came back as my dad…..
Next week, Britney will do something stupid and we’ll forgot this whole thing ever happened.
I’m TEAM BALDWIN on this one. This tape should never have been released. Just because she’s 12 doesn’t mean she’s an angel. Kids are intelligent and do a lot of passive aggressive, pre-meditated things to their parents, for one reason or another.
I’ve heard a lot worse than this directed at a child. I’ve had a lot worse directed at me, when I was young. My parents got divorced when I was younger and I can completely understand the anger that Alec must feel when he cannot get in touch with his own kid, who lives with a woman he has no respect for. I don’t think Kim is a horrible person but she should NOT have released this. Alec has a right to be pissed off.
Hooray for alec he cares bout his child about how she will turn out as an adult more parents should excersise more control H O O R A Y you go mr. baldwin
Alec Baldwin shouldn’t be raising a daughter. He stated long ago that he’s not pro women very much. He doesn’t like us that well. He likes the company of men much more. A man’s man.
Alec isn’t trying to raise his daughter, he is trying to control her and calling his daughter and her mother names on voicemail is only going to push her further away!
Maybe Ireland is sick of his controlling ways and thinks he is a “thoughtless pig” & “thoughtless pain in the ass”, I know I think he is!
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brenda Says:
April 21st, 2007 at 11:06 am - flag comment
he cares bout his child about how she will turn out as an adult
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…calling his daughter names and disrespecting her very own mother is a surefire way to make her turn out a GREAT adult…NOT! Seriously, talking smack about Kim to Ireland was heartless on his part! I hope this child doesn’t have issues with men as she grows up cause their not all as*es like Alec is!
I feel sorry for people how think this is parent advisory!!!You poor,poor souls,i cant imagine how your fathers treated you and how you treat your children.I am shocked that anyone would think this is acceptable parent beahviour.
And how do you people know Kim released this?Please all you can do is speculate to blame her,while there is no proof backing your hate.What we have is an idiot verbally abusing his 12 yeard old daughter,caught on tape,listen to his voice.No wonder Kim divorced the psycho.Good for her.
OH come on now people, HeLLOOOOOO!!!! We know damned well this call was intended for Her Royal Highness Kim!! The call was set for 11 and he called at 10:30 knowing full well Kim would listen in on the voicemail… Let’s not always put the blame on the guy…Women are not always little Saints if you know what I mean. They can be very manipulative at times!!! Knowing full well that people will automatically side with their little drama queen shinanigans!! Hence the releasing of the voice mail by Kim… I rest my case!!!
You, Kathryn, do not presume because my daughter is SOMETIMES disrespectful, doesn’t mean she a “bad” daughter. Honor roll too, reads at 11th grade level, plays bass clarinet, clarinet in band and is in select band (honor band). Particularly a sweet girl who wears her heart on her sleeve and gets hurt by others (she react particularly odd when that happens).
Now you people really ought to look at what he called her it was the word “PIG”, if he truly is a *astard, wouldn’t he have used a much stronger word? If his anger was so out of control; pig is the strongest word that he used against her…again he’s wrong to be angry like that and I would not have reacted that way.
BOTH of these parents are FAILING to take the best interests of the child into consideration. BOTH should IMMEDIATELY LEARN to GET along for IRELAND”S BENEFIT. This back biting cr*p has been going on for far too long, especially in the public media.
Of course he should never have called her names. I think that’s a given. He knows that and I believe he has apologized to her. Otherwise, I don’t have a problem with him being hard on her if she is dong this deliberately. But that’s not my call to make. Eleven or 12 is not a baby. I knew exactly what I was doing at that age. She needs to be told how her behavioraffects or hurts others, even if it’s just adolescent carelessness. Baldwin certainly could have handled his lecture better.
People who have Bassinger’s specific mental health issues can be very manipulative and are experts at playing the victim. My guess is that she has played this hand with her daughter as well. I have a friend with the same disorder who has done this with her child over the years and it has driven the father almost crazy and he felt helpless in the face of losing his relationship with his child.
Until you have gone through or been witness to couples who go through these custody battles you cannot judge who caused what. Or you should at least know better than to judge. I have seen otherwise decent and thoughtful mothers and fathers driven to behavior they would never have believed possible of them. Often the more guilty parent comes out smelling clean when they deliberately set the other parent up and know just what buttons to push. You do not use a parent’s love for their child and desperation to maintain a relationship with that child as a weapon against them.
I don’t think anyone is trying to hold Baldwin blameless. Names can wound a child for a long time. But so can the mother’s behavior. Bassinger is going to have to answer to the judge if she is in any way responsible for releasing this tape. Or even if she encouraged her daughter to miss court ordered contact with her dad. Violation of a court order subjects her to contempt of court which is punishable by fines or jail or other punishment or remedies. At the very least a change in the custody terms. Releasing that tape was just as bad as the name calling. Just as abusive. There is no way that Ireland doesn’t already have issues because of this war.
Lara,
So what are we to do about this now that the tape has been released? Burn an efigy of Alec Baldwin in anger?
Please, I don’t know what goes on in the Baldwin family and I’m not going to suspend my intelligence for a minute and disbelieve this wasn’t done by someone in Kim Basinger’s camp. I work in media, I know how all this goes.
Releasing this tape doesn’t prove that Basinger is the better parent, in many ways this proves that she’s not so great herself.
No one is excusing Alec Baldwin, I’m just not being self-righteous. It’s easy to sit on the internet and pretend like you’ve never said anything crazy to your child, especially because we don’t have taped evidence. At the end of the day the matter is between Baldwin and his daughter and they have to work that relationship out. This tape should not have been made for public consumption.
And Kim Basinger is not a battered woman so stop with the psychoanalysis. She’s getting a divorce and prolonging the custody battle to spite her ex. Neither deserve sole custody and they both need to need to start think in the best interest of her child.
JJ that was brutal. thanks for linking the whole audio.
wow. that’s so teerrible. i can already tell you that girl is going to have some major time in counseling if she is not already in it. coming from a father of a similar temper i know it takes a long time to heal from such hateful words. poor child.
Oh please Franny. If he was so “in love” with Ireland, he would never speak to her that way. End of story. Has Ms. Basinger been diagnosed with an illness or are you just another Alec Baldwin fan who believes in your man? You’re already taking Alec’s word for it that Basinger is nuts. Why assume Kim is dragging the custody battle on and on? What if Alec is responsible. I’m sick of him referring to Basinger’s instability. What an imbecile. I sure wish Kim would write a “tell-all” book and blow his booty out of the water.
Yea Alec used to be cute and sexy, but that’s how naive women get fooled. Women are always sticking up for attractive men. I don’t know why that happens, but it does.
Is it because we came from Adam’s rib?
Why are so many people making excuses for abusive behavior? There are no excuses! I would think this type of behavior of Mr. Baldwin’s is exactly what has alienated his daughter from him. What child would want to hear this from a parent? If someone spoke to me in this manner, I would avoid them too.
I thought Alec Baldwin was a total douche before this, and my opinion of him hasn’t gotten any worse. We all have moments when we lose our tempers with our loved ones, especially husbands, wives and kids. People are quick to judge but don’t know the entire context of the situation. If Kim did leak this tape, then no one can be quite sure what lead to the contents of that tape and she could easily be manipulating the situation to screw Alec, who she hates. I’m not on Baldwin’s side, I’m just saying, no one knows exactly what happened, and many parents say worse to their kids and they are just fine.
He comes off like a self-centered jerk… the whole voicemail was I, I, I. Me, Me, Me.
This type of behavior toward a child is not OK. For everyone who finds NOTHING wrong with this voicemail, how would you feel if it was your daughter listening to this message on her voicemail???? her father calling her names and calling you names on top of that??? her father threatening “I am going to get on a plane and I am going to straighten your ass out when I see and make sure you get it when I get there” that sounds like a threat to me! He must feel like a big man threatening a 11 yr old! JERK!
And yes this is abuse, it’s a thing called verbal abuse!
Thank god, this was made public, maybe this will put an end to Kim & Ireland’s torment due to him!
Lenny,
Making this public will do nothing more than embarass Ireland from now into the future. We can’t decide the custody battle.
It was heartless to air this business so people like you and me could play judge when we don’t have the power to do anything but talk about it.
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lula29 Says:
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:39 am - flag comment
Making this public will do nothing more than embarass Ireland
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Maybe Alec should of thought of that before leaving his voice on tape!
For all we know maybe Ireland wants this tape out there to STOP this sort of harassment from him!
For all we know she may have had to endure this for years.. if so he needs to be stop and if she is indeed embarrassed by this for awhile, its for her own good! Its better to be embarrassed for awhile than it is to be belittle and degraded by an self centered maniac forever!
Ireland will get over this phone message. Airing dirty laundry can be helpful. It’s started this whole conversation about what is anger and what is verbal abuse. Now the kids at schools everywhere will start looking at their own parents and realizing that their parents are verbally abusing them when they call them names. This is good. Ireland will soon see that she is not alone. Many times when kids endure abuse, they become ashamed because they think they are the only ones. Well, judging from the posters on this board, many of you were verbally abused also. Now you are callous because nobody protected you, so you expect Ireland to just shrug everything off, or you are making her out to be the bad guy by calling her a brat and blaming her for not wanting to talk to that maniac. You make it seem like all mothers and fathers are good and should be obeyed no matter what. Wrong!!!! Just because you provided the DNA does not mean everything goes your way. When you abuse your children, you should lose your rights. That’s what I say.
Those of you who think Alec is normal, think again. I’ll never forget the photo of him berating Kim Basinger outside a restaurant. Kim looked like all she could do was hold on for dear life. She was embarrassed. He was almost standing over her, yelling at her and probably calling her nasty names just like he did to his daughter. He was so angry, he either did not see the photographers or he didn’t care. His mouth was open and his eyes were wild. He was in a complete rage like a fiery Devil! Kim looked like she was taking it. She wasn’t arguing back at him. It wasn’t an argument. It was a one-person rage. He was bullying her with his words. Shortly after that, they split and he was trying to get her back the whole time before they divorced. Isn’t that just like a wife beater? They tortue you and then cry when you leave. He’s so common it’s almost funny. He’s never gotten over Kim divorcing him. That’s why he’s fighting so hard to get things HIS WAY with the little girl.
By now, Alec should have married again and maybe had more kids. What has stopped him? He’s still completely obssessed with Kim Basinger. Alec is an unhappy man. He blames everything on everybody else, but the problem lies within. He will never be happy as long as he continues on this path. He needs to talk to his brother. Maybe Jesus can help him.
everyone needs to shut up. this is why i need to leave this country ASAP. she’s 12yo, and if she is being a rude little pig, then he did well by straightening her out. WTF?? now parents have to be apologetic and limitlessly forgiving with their children??? that’s why we have a generation of little sh*ts happens. cause kids don’t get straightened out when they’re being little a**holes. my mother has said worse things to me when i was young and I deserved it all. she put me in my place, and i have a better relationship with my parents today than most of my friends. parents must love their children yes, but must DISCIPLINE them too, so they can grow up and be worthy, contributing members of society. I don’t see ANYTHING wrong with the message, and it’s too bad it got leaked cause now he has to “apologize” to his kid, instead of giving her the lecture/lesson he was going to.
Juls, I feel sorry for you. You are a bitter person but you don’t know it.
All children need discipline, but they don’t need to be called bad names. That’s just stupid and a parent who doesn’t know how to be in charge of the situation.
My dad raised 7 and he barely had to do anything because he’s aggressive and we knew better. My mother was easier but she would not tolerate bad behavior. I am always getting compiments about my family. People say we are nice and we are all close. It’s a great feat, but my parents accomplished it without calling us pigs.
He left a message that was sealed by the courts! SEALED!
So now every message that you leave on what should be a personal voicemail should be aired to the public. Okay, if that’s the kind of free country you want to live in, so be it. I don’t.
This is far from a little embarrasment, and I doubt this girl wants her parents to continue to fight over her and involve the whole public in their family mess.
One of the best things you can do is “expose” an abuser to the public. Let the whole wide world know. Their greatest trick is deception because they are masters of disguise. This may be the very first step toward real healing for this family, so in the end, it’s worth the embarrassment. I hope Alec gets a good whiff of the comments on these boards and sees how the majority of us are disappointed in Mr. Movie Star.
Lula, I’m not going to get into a debate on the issue how this tape was made public.. there’s something much more IMPORTANT than that and that would be the verbal abuse Ireland has been put through, most likely on a continuous basis. First and foremost that needs to be dealt with and stopped! Like Ina said “the best thing you can do is “expose” an abuser to the public”, now everyone knows and maybe Alec will take a deep breath and think twice the next time he decides to pull something like this! Eventually Ireland will get over this tape being made public, but she never get over what her father said to her, she’ll remember the verbal abuse forever! No wonder the kid doesn’t want to talk to him, I don’t blame her!
There are several points that I would like to make:
1. This is not the first time that he has talked to his daughter this way.
2. He most certainly talked to his wife this way.
3. This behavior is a major factor in the divorce.
4. This is why the child does not want to talk to her father.
5. People who defend or excuse his rant, are used to doing it too.
6. He gave this ammunition to his ex-wife on a silver platter.
This is why I hate parents involved in custody battles – they BOTH use the children as weapons against each other. Neither of them give a damn about the child. Nobody ever wins, and the child always suffers the greatest loss.
Sheral
What he said wasn’t right, but from the sounds of it, this little girl may have pulled this before. I think more parents need to stand up to their kids. Shame on Kim Basinger for releasing that message.
I was reading through many posts and read one that struck me about Alec Baldwin’s presence. Looks a little diabolical, don’t you think? He played a real sicko on a nighttime TV drama. I remember how believable and scary he was. It’s in his eyes. When he was young he was very handsome, but now he looks like a member of The Godfather. He seems to be serious, bossy, moody. I don’t know if he ever physically smacked Kim Basinger, but I wouldn’t doubt it. Looked him up on another site and he got his BA degree in drama, so he can put on a good act on the screen, as well as in real life.
Alec B is a fat a$# PIG!!! He has always had anger mgmt problems.He needs to keep good on his promise and move to another country.Preferably Iran or Afganistan!!!!!!!
Dr.Phil is required here for the sake of the child.Yes Ireland is only eleven but children in a divorce situation learn very early how to manipulate the situation .The best Alec&Kim can do for their child is to agree about the child as parents or they will have a “BRAT” on their hands and it won’t be the child’s fault. Harvey Levin was so wrong to air this…I heard him say “Ireland obviously wanted this realeased” See ! an 11yr old has manipulated him.. got her moment of fame and got her Father in trouble.
Lets wait for somebody other than Irelands father to call her a wayward child. Grandparents? Aunts? Uncles? Teachers? Neighbors? Someone else knows the truth.
Lenny,
I think it’s surprising that you don’t find it abusive to leak personal family mess to the public. Wow.
This doesn’t bother me that much. I’m kinda thinking Ireland wanted people to know.
What about Paris Hilton’s sex tape running amok and ruining the Hilton name? That is much worse than this fracas.
There is never any excuse to speak to anyone in that form, no matter what age. However we should not be passing judgement on a 20 second phone call we do not know the whole story. Just because they are infamous it doesn’t mean they are not human. Their divorce is a nasty one. Alec should have had better anger control and Kim should have never sacrificed her daughter and Alecs reputation for the sake of publicity. Her part in all of this is just as damaging as Alec’s. Alec you need to get help for your anger managment and Kim you need to get mental help because no sane mother would ever put their child in the middle of a custardy battle to prove a point.
I’m not going to defend Alec Baldwin for speaking to his kid this way. There are always better way to settle a dispute than to resort to threats and name calling, especially when one of the parties concerned happens to be a child. But what kind of mother would then release the offending tape to the media. And before any of you try to claim that she did, how else could a message on a private
phone fall into the hands of TMZ? Neither Alec Baldwin or Kim Basinger are healthy people. Many marriages fail and when they do ex partners usually try their hardest to be sensible and civil if only for the sake of the children. Here you have two self-centred egotistical people who for years have used their daughter in order to wage war against each other. How many times have they taken each other to court in order to sling mud at each other, or to have the other cut out of their child’s life? I’ll bet that child now thinks such behaviour is normal. It’s about time the courts took action by declaring both these people to be unfit parents and permanently removing that child from their care and influence.
Sad to think that the kid takes the brunt of her parents anger, I think she should be removed to permanent foster care away from both of them. I can understand his rage (saw a brother-in-law go thru the same, the ex played the courts and everybody for clowns). However his anger was mis-directed and he needs to get control of it. Bassinger however seems to know just what buttons to push in him to make him go off that way and then come off like miss innocence, who else could have leaked the message…. it’s all in the game, my parents played the same one. If the child doesn’t want to respect her father enough to be there for the pre-arranged call then maybe the father needs to show her the same respect and not be there for her, before you jump on me, is it not by example kids learn, and are there not consequences for our actions, maybe the child needs to not be able to reach her father to know what he feels like when she does the same to him, after all I am assuming she is a bright average 11 year old. In the meantime I think a loving foster home should be in the childs future until the adults here “grow up” and act like they are really concered and care for their child rather than their hate for each other.
shut up
Oh yeah….. shut up
Big deal.
He was pissed off with his ex and his child–same as peopl get pissed off with bf’s/gf’s and mother in laws……….ok, so he used tones n words that he shouldnt have, Honestly. No one here has ever said anything they’ve regretted? He didn’t sya he hated her, he didn’t say he was gonna “hurt” her…..he told her off Good. Maybe the brat will learn how to respect her dad, and really…if kim leaked this? Then she obviously has issues too…the whole family does. But again….don’t we all?
Give em a break–imagine all the convos across the country that you DONT get to hear? You think Britney Spears Father never flipped on her for being spoiled? Please.
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