OlderIsaiah Washington: Patrick Dempsey Made Me Use the F-word
Isaiah Washington is blaming co-star Patrick Dempsey’s lateness to the Grey’s Anatomy set for the “brawl” that riled Washington up enough to use a homophobic slur.
Washington spoke up about his experience on Larry King Live and explains that he “regretted not confronting Dempsey the first time he was late, so he challenged him the second time.”
On Dempsey first erupting: “He became unhinged, sprayed spittle in my face. I’m asking him why is he screaming at me. … He just becomes irate.”
On Knight claiming the slur was directed at him: “It’s a lie. He misrepresented himself.” (He says he used the term “faggot” as a synonym for “wimp”.)
On Knight lying to advance his career and to get more money: “He has been very disappointed in playing the character he has been playing. He told me that.”
On repeating the slur backstage at the Golden Globe Awards: “I wish I could take that back.”
On defending his actions: “I am not homophobic – in no way, shape or form.”
Washington fought back years when King asked if any cast members had written to him. Only Sandra Oh had sent him an email…
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Isaiah needs to MOVE THE HELL ON. Everyone else has.
What he did was wrong. There’s no use making excuses, especially now that he’s already lost his job.
he is taking this a little too far.
Self-destructive much?
So… how long until he’s on the Surreal Life?
That’s awful only Sandra wrote him an email..
i feel bad for isaiah washington, this got way out of hand and was blown up, its sad that you can get fired for what you say! what happened to freedom of speech? he even did everything they told him to do afterwards….sad! but now we can all just move on i guess…
he s still sexy as hell i dont no if ill keep watching now thats hes off i.mean wats going to keep this show hot cause the story lines suck wit out kristin and doctor burke….and no more juciy publicity wit out him
I heard he said it’s because people heard a black man’s loud voice and got scared. It’s beacause people heard a loud voice using the word ****** and got pissed. he wants to make it about race instead of what a jerk he is. The only reason he can play an arrogant a-hole is because he is one, he can’t act. Hope we never have to hear from him again
He did attack Dempsey, and it isn’t his job to confront another actor about being late. That’s the director’s job. It is never any actor’s job to tell another actor what to do. You just up and do your own job.
Isaiah and Sandra were the most interesting couple on tv.
A LOT of people yell on movie/tv sets. It’s very very common. At least he didn’t call Dempsy a white honkey. I am sure that Isaiah is not homophobic.
I believed every word he said. Things were spun in the media. He acknowledged he messed up. Its now time for IW to move to bigger things. He said his peace.
Sorry I don’t think of TR Knight as a leading man, I always thought of him as a supporting cast member.
This whole thing stinks…I feel bad for Isaiah Washington esp. that TR took advantage of the situation. But things that happen in the dark usually come to light.
he needs to stop playing the victim card, the race card, and the misunderstood card…grow up and get over it…I doubt that TR sabotaged him simply because he didn’t like his role. I was surprised he said he was fired because people feared a loud black man on the set especially since the show’s producer and creator is black.
and i’m sorry but angie, people need to start getting fired and facing consequences for what they say, its about time people stop hiding behind their first amendment rights to spread hatred and negative terms towards specific minority groups. and you know if it was TR knight calling him a N***** he would be screaming about it on every news show and calling in the NAACP
This guy has issues with people, period. The more he talks about this, the less people want to work with him. Since he’s going to be unemployable for a while, better go write a book, “Cry Me a River: How I got shafted by a f*****”.
NOW **** YOU,
N STOP BLAMING EVERYONE ELSE
FOR WHAT CAME FROM YOUR MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
I dont understand why he would get fired just because he used the “f-word” I mean, people say things they don’t mean or before they think. If everyone got punished for what they said, than everyone would be fired. Im not saying that its fine he said that, but come one, what are we, 5 years old? What happened to freedom of speech?
I’m torn about the whole media frenzy over this, AND I feel that he was obviously wrong for saying what he said (twice) and it’s unfortunate that he lost his job. BUT, he chose to lose his cool and he simply needs to accept that it hurt SOME people so deeply that they cannot forgive him and that’s just LIFE. Learn from it, move on. And for all the people (including Bruce Willis) who keep mentioning that it’s sad someone can lose their job because of “what they say”…WHAT WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN? The world I live in, YES I WILL LOSE MY JOB IF I WALKED UP TO ANY CO-WORKER AND CALLED THEM A DEROGATORY NAME or physically/verbally assaulted them in ANY way. In a heartbeat, no questions asked, FIRED. I’ve worked in the corporate world for nearly 14 years, and I can confidently say I’d be fired in EACH & EVERY workplace I’ve worked in if I had an outburst like Isaiah’s. What kind of jobs do y’all have that think this is not a fact of life?
I feel sorry for him…Heigle and Knight (ly?) had no right airing out dirty laundry…it’s classless. None of us were there so we have no right judging who’s right or not.
If a person who worked in an office strangled an employee and called that person a ******, whilst a gay person looked on, they would be fired. In the unlikely event that they weren’t fired, if that person later said in a board meeting “I called this gay guy a ******” they would surely be fired. It had nothing to do with race. This guy is an idiot and should stop crying. Suck it up and move on.
How can this idiot blame someone else for his mistake!!! And plus I doubt if that F– incidence is the only reason why he got fired, i honestly think he is very distuptive and has no respect whatsoever to the crew and his castmates! DUDE! Learn from it and move on…stop ranting ’cause it’s only making you look really bad!!!
everyone’s comments are SO interesting.
i have said although am very often corrected for not being PC that saying ****** is wrong so i dont say it anymore. but sheessh i know people who say ****** and they mean that someone is a wimp. is ever person in the world suppose to be PC.
Washington was wrong but its hard to be pc all of the time just try it for a day its really hard. half of the time i dont think people say things to be malice but they just dont think b4 they speak.
I think its awful that he lost his job.
Bush called people un-patriotic if they did not agree with the war isnt that wrong?
Ann coulter called J.Edwards a ****** in a public forum is anyone mad at her has she lost her job? no she has sold more books
That wack job on sinefield mentioned lynching people and said ****** but he did not lose his job as being a comedian and re-runs of that show still come on tv.
Washington is angry hell he lost his employment but its not excuse for him not handling the situation properly. i say he should get his job back, but thats just me.
f*ggot!
im sorry its not my fault i have tourettes
f*dgepacker! c*ckfag! b*tt-pirate!
ever so sorry..it’s uncontrollable
a*se bandit!
larry king, please help!
I think this whole thing was blown out of proportion. He apologized, he went to counselling and this was right up TR’s alley. I’m not saying what he did wasn’t wrong but it’s also true that had TR called Isaiah a ******, they wouldn’t fire him and people would only say that that was inappropriate.
As far as Dempsey and Washington feud, I think there are fights on set all the time and things throw you off if you’re a director or not and people fight with their colleagues, be it they’re famous or not. If you were working in a team with someone and he was constantly late, would you be quiet and wait for your boss to tell him it’s inappropriate? Come on, people, stop being so holier-than-thou.
I agree with funny. Isiah is a very good actor (especially compared to T.R.). He does have a right to be angry because he did everything that was requested of him and he still lost his job. But if I was him I would stop talking about it. You don’t want to be seen as a complainer in Hollywood. He needs to move on and learn how to play the game. Grey’s Anatomy has only a few season left before being canceled.
I think by going on Larry King he certainly didn’t help help himself…stop digging your own career grave! Maybe he thought by going on LK he would be able to explain himself better, but it backfired I think.
I agree that TR really took advantage of the situation. He hid in the closet b/c he was worried it might hurt his career. Then just b/c someone used the F word, he claimed he had no choice but to come out. That’s bullsh*t. I don’t know how one person calling another the F word during a heated argument had anything to do with him. Then, he and Heigl lashed out against Isaiah every chance they got. Personally, I think they are both annoying. I stopped watching Grey’s Anatomy a long time ago. I definitely won’t watch it ever again now that the Christina/Burke relationship is over. TR was a coward. Using someone else to advance your career will come back to bit you in the ass, TR.
Keep talking Isaiah..you’re digging your own (career) grave..
Lol@ 21
I definitely feel sorry for Isaiah, and I cannot BELIEVE that ABC would write off a central character like Dr. Burke (who could act the hell out of a dramatic AND comedic scene) because of some stupid, whiny kid like T.R. Knight.
I think that T.R. is the one who is unhappy in his position on the show and caused all this controversy… it did seem like after Isaiah’s “rehab” America had moved on and everything was going to be okay. Unfortunately, that’s not the way it worked out.
I really hope he gets some good roles coming up here!! He deserves it. I loved watching him on Grey’s.
This whole thing sucks as “Grey’s Anatomy”.
BTW, really don’t like George and Izzie together in the show.
The character “George” … such a wuss!
For Isaiah, be a man, stop whining, people made mistakes all the time, you got to move on. Otherwise, your whole career will be ****** like this.
Dr. Burke is gone—–so am I !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is an incredible actor and the story line with him and Sandra Oh was the best thing about the show. Meredith, T.R. and Katherine Heigle over act and are just annoying. Goodbye Greys! I loved you when you first came on the scene but now ??????? Hope to see Isaiha on bigger and better things soon.
HE WAS THE BEST ACTOR IN THIS SERIE… NOBODY COMPARES TO HIM.
AND ironically T.R. Knight IS THE WORST.
lmao didi.
I feel sorry for isaiah, but media do make it worse than already it is. He made a mistake, or several, he admitted and now its time to move on, let things go. That is, before he loses his acting career or something.
He should not have been fired. He didn’t even use it against TR.
its sad that you can get fired for what you say!
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He didn’t get fired for what he said and he knows it. His contract wasn’t renewed because unfortunetly he was a problem on set and with his fellow actors. Washington has a Looooooooooooooog history of bad behavior, when working. He wanted to be top dog and he wasn’t/isn’t. Patrick Dempsey is and his ego couldn’t stand it. Now. He’s out of a job. Idiot
why was Patrick Dempsey late let us explore that. what a fagget
oops my mistake.
The only thing I got out of the Larry King interview is that Isaiah is insanely jealous of Patrick Dempsey, and he hates TR Knight.
I’m so not watching Grey’s anymore.
1.Burke’s gone
2.George and Izzie are together. eww
3.Burke’s gone
I watched the interview.
I think everything got blown way outta porportion.
He shouldn’t have been fired!!
T.R outed himself.
He brought alot of attention to it…ALOT
It’s stupid
I never watched Grey’s Anatomy, mainly because it centered on whiny Meredith, who reminded me too much of Ally McBeal, but I did watch Isaiah Washington on Larry King. I do buy that he was played by ABC. And it doesn’t help that the National Enquirer were the ones who ‘broke’ the story. IMO, I think that it’s entirely possible that he lost his job because he made the mistake of paying attention to the tabloids and blogs. And I do think that Katherine Heigl’s ‘defense’ and ‘protectiveness’ toward T.R. was motivated by her own ambition.
I really have no opinion on T.R. although from the clips I’ve seen, his character is a total wimp. And there is nothing worse than having some wimp walk all over you, hence the reason why I will never Grey’s Anatomy.
I do agree that Isaiah doesn’t need to say anymore, but the dude has the right to say something. It’s just like when people said that Star Jones should stop talking about her firing; she only talked about it twice. Meanwhile, Matenopoulus will bring up her firing and her feelings of betrayal anytime Star Jones is brought up; it was nearly 10 years ago when she was drummed out of The View. But again, some people have the luxury of ‘venting’ while others are labeled as sore losers or poor team players.
36 kim : 07/03/2007 at 7:41 am
The only thing I got out of the Larry King interview is that Isaiah is insanely jealous of Patrick Dempsey, and he hates TR Knight.
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Exactly! He made a fool out of himself on LKL. Even King kept saying if what you say is true then what is the issue? And why would TR Knight say the things he said?
some people have the luxury of ‘venting’ while others are labeled as sore losers or poor team players.
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You didn’t watch the interview so you have no idea how obvious it was that he was lying. He’s claiming that TR Knight was talking smack about Patrick Dempsey and that Knight felt he wasn’t treated properly by Dempsey to TR Kight misspoke on Ellen. GMAFB. Again, people are missing the point. He wasn’t fired for what he said. He was fired because of his behavior and he knows it.
I think some of you people just needs someone to rag on or you don’t want to change your opinion of someone you previously vilified. He seemed very sincere and no one is perfect. He’s a great actor and I hope he finds continued success and I hope the other cowards on his show get what they deserve.
What Washington didn’t discuss on Larry King Live was the fact that Shonda could only protect him for so long. Washington was a problem on the set and specifically with the women on the set since day one. He was told/warned repeatedly about his inappropriate behavior. This was just the icing on the cake and Shondra could not protect him anymore and ABC/Disney wanted him gone. He said one thing right, you don’t mess with the Mouse. Disney has very strict policies and procedures concerning employees, ALL employee behavior. He couldn’t even put a clear thought together on Larry King last night. Does anyone really believe that meek and mild TR Kight is some devious pr mastermind who took it upon himself to destroy Washington’s career and get him off the show? To what end?
Washington is jealous of Dempsey but he has more respect for him because Dempsey got in his face and challenged him. He has sheer distaste for TR Knight and wants him fired. So, if Patrick was the cause of all this why does he believe Knight should go?
Washington is lying through his ever lovin’ teeth
what a ridiculous heading. no he didn’t say he “Made” him use it. far from it. he took responsibility for all he said.
tr got to tell his “truth” and now he got to tell his. it’s funny people say he keeps talking about it, and he NEVER got into what actually happene because they gagged him.
so, i’m not sure when he keeps talking about what happened. just because TR was able to talk right after the events, doesn’t make IW side any less valid.
First Amendment rights have NOTHING to do with not losing your job. You have the right to say whatever you want, but your employer also has the right to fire you for it. The man got in a physical confrontation, and then shouted so the entire set could hear it, “I’m not your fa**ot, like T.R.” It’s moronic semantics for IW to decide that that’s NOT calling T.R. a f**got. It clearly is. And any of us in the U.S. would’ve been fired for it.
I love the way people comment like they were on the set. If IW was such a problem on the set then ABC would have fired him for cause a long time ago. If he has this long history of being difficult then why even hire him? He came across as totally sincere and apologetic for his part in the drama. He has the right to clear his name and give his side of the story. Anyone who is honest will admit that the context in which he used the word was in no way homophobic, and if TR and KH lied, then they will get theirs.
but it’s also true that had TR called Isaiah a ******, they wouldn’t fire him and people would only say that that was inappropriate.
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Are you serious? T.R. would’ve been fired for that in a heartbeat. Look at what happened to Don Imus and Michael Richards. People would definitely not just brush aside a white man calling a black co-star a n**ger. The fact that so many people think that TR was whiny or manipulative in this situation is just proof of how prevalent homophobia still is today. Somehow IW being a huge ******* is TR’s fault for not just putting up with it.
45 dali : 07/03/2007 at 8:44 am
I love the way people comment like they were on the set. If IW was such a problem on the set then ABC would have fired him for cause a long time ago.
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You obviously aren’t in a supervisory/management position. What you do is warn the employee, address the problem/issue and then give them an action plan so they can modify their behavior. Go read your company handbook.
There wasn’t a sincere bone in his body. He’s p*ssed because TR Knight still has a job and he doesn’t. For him to drag Dempsey into the whole thing making it about Dempsey allegedly being late is absurd.
Washington couldn’t even answer the questions being asked of him. He’s a fool and a tool
bad liar
i think knight should have been fired because between him and washington, washington is the better actor. knight can’t act and he’s not a good looking guy…i honestly don’t believe he could get all the girls he got on the show!
44 Tracy : 07/03/2007 at 8:42 am
First Amendment rights have NOTHING to do with not losing your job.
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Right. Unless you have a contract you are an employee at will. Washington had a contract and they opted not to renew it. They could of gotten rid of him sooner if they wanted to but he gave the appearance of trying to make amends. He couldn’t control himself or his ego and what went down at the GG’s was the nail in his own coffin
Isaiah has been railroaded. Yeah, it may not be politically correct to use the term ******, but I have heard much worse said about gays. Patrick Dempsey could have helped the situation too. Both of them were obviously angry and it probably has something to do with Dempsey’s character being overshawdowed. There are 2 things I blame Isaiah for
1-Being caught up in the moment at the Golden Globes and saying he did not call TR a ******!-He could have left it alone.
2-Not remembering the truth. It is a race thing! It’s not necessarily racial on the part of ABC, but hey it’s racial. Shonda Rhimes knows it too-she didn’t want him to get fired, but she has NO power-she wants her check and her relationship to continue with powerful ABC- Isaiah forgot that he was a N*GG*R-No matter who you are and how much money you have you will still just be a N*GG*R- Let me tell you-if you have a situation where it is between you and a white co-worker-you will always be wrong-I was PUSHED-Literally PUSHED by a white co-worker who let me know without question that Blacks were inferior to whites and he hoped to GOD his precious little girl never got involved with one-well when I brought it to the attention of both our superiors they said-well, he’s very smart and we really need him on board-please try to get along with him!!!-
Another smart co-worker told me the following joke-how do you get black kids to stop jumping on the bed??? Put velcro on the ceiling!-What do you call a black brain surgeon??? A N*GG*R-They laughed and laughed-when I didn’t crack a smile, they were like, “h have a sense of humor you know we’re just kidding-I went to EEOC (WHAT A JOKE) without their knowledge-they told me-it’s heresay-
So I know there are a lot of white people who really really do not hate blacks and who try to be fair-but honestly-this is how it is and Isaiah should have known better-Look at all the comments about how he’s committing career suicide. Why is that? Why is it you can’t speak your mind on Larry King without committing career suicide-other WHITE actors do-And another thing-remember the black guy that won the Apprentice? Randal Pinkett-Of all the winners, why is it when he won Donald gave him the option of letting the girl be the co-winner with him? Bill and Kwame were close competition, but it wasn’t an option-the smartest thing Randal did was start his on business while in school-he didn’t need Trump and he didn’t suck up-Isaiah acts as if Grey’s was the only show around-I will NOT watch it anymore-not because of that, but it was boring
Oh please. Just shut up Washington! I don’t believe a single thing he says. He’s had history of violent and hot temper in work place. His scuffle w/ Dempsey wasn’t the first one he has. I don’t think he was fired because of what he said, though I am sure it contributed to the decision. He was fired because he created an uncomfortalbe working environment (for the love of me, I cannot seem to remember the actual term for it) :) Anyhow, that’s my two cents. And, I would have been OK w/ the whole thing, except he then went on using a race card, which I think is VERY low…..
-Patrick has an attitude and a God Complex-he was out of the loop for a long time because he thought he was the SH**-He certainly didn’t want Isaiah telling him anything- His marriage is in trouble too-That fight was deeper than what they let on-Dr. Burke was too well liked
He was fired because he created an uncomfortalbe working environment (for the love of me, I cannot seem to remember the actual term for it)
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It’s called a Hostile work enviroment
40 Um : 07/03/2007 at 8:27 am
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Hey, dumbass… I did watch the Larry King interview. Just because you refuse to accept my perception of what happened during the interview doesn’t mean that I didn’t watch.
But if you want to create your own reality, fine!
53 Dempsey is arrogant : 07/03/2007 at 9:01 am
-Patrick has an attitude and a God Complex-he was out of the loop for a long time because he thought he was the SH**-He certainly didn’t want Isaiah telling him anything-
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Oh please. Big bad football playing, Air Force 6′1 Isaiah Washington had white Patrick Dempsey in his face handing him a cup of STFU and he couldn’t stand it.
How anyone could of watched that interview last night and not see how much Washington resents Dempsey. He thinks he’s better then Dempsey and resented the attention Dempsey received from the show.
He was fired because he was a disgruntled employee who didn’t follow the rules of the company. Period.
Piper with a low-you are 100% on it-hats off to U! It seems everything blacks do is soooo overblown-KH’s protection of TR made me instantly feel she was trying to boost her career-
he deserved to get fired. if you use a racial slur at work, whether its aimed at someone or not, you will loose your job. the same should apply when you use anti gay slur words. this guy needs to stop trying to do “damage” control because he is just killing his career. just stop talking about it! he just keeps rambling on and on about this. no one in hollywood is going to want to work with him now. and sandra oh was the only one to contact him..that says a lot. if he had truly been liked by the cast and crew, trust me, he would have heard from more of them.
57 The Truth : 07/03/2007 at 9:11 am
Piper with a low-you are 100% on it-hats off to U! It seems everything blacks do is soooo overblown-KH’s protection of TR made me instantly feel she was trying to boost her career-
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Get a grip. Washington ran up against the gay community which was willing to work with him but that’s not what he wanted and he proved that with his comment at the GG’s. Washington F’d up. That’s on him. It has nothing to do with black, white, yellow or green. It has to do with his own behavior.
Why do you think he’s saying TR Knight should be fired?
Big bad football playing, Air Force 6′1 Isaiah Washington had white Patrick Dempsey in his face handing him a cup of STFU and he couldn’t stand it.
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This is an interesting mental picture-because I would have beat the hell out of white patrick dempsey in my face trying to hand me a cup of STFU- and it wouldn’t be about jealousy-it would be about a life full of having white patrick dempsey’s in my face handing me a cup of STFU-If Rhimes had any backbone she would turn in her resignation and go write for NBC-
If I remember correctly Washington auditioned for the role of Derrick and didn’t get it. Then, Shonda wrote the role of Burke specifically for Isaiah. So, I think his resentment of Patrick goes way deeper then Dempsey supposedly being late for a scene.
And 60 The Truth , you have issues. The fact that you see people as colors and not individuals means you’ve doomed yourself to a life of predjudice and hate.
This incident was about three men. Men, not colors. Dempsey took issue with Washington, his behavior and his words aimed at TR Knight. If anything Dempsey should be applauded for not sititng down and shutting up
TR should be fired because his wimpy ugly sad fat little azz cabn’t act-his character is silly and his relationship with Izzy is stoopid! They are all mediocre-none of them can carry the show by themselves-that was the problem with FRIENDS-When they all leave they will just be mediocre C-list actors-TR and Washington both were wrong-Dempsey and Washington both were wrong and Heigel was wrong for commenting too-but FIRED??? He should have quit-There is NO F*&ing way I would do a fake go to rehab stint and some f’ed up commercials-If I say NI**ER or F*g or whatever then dammit I said it deal with it and let’s move on-I don’t have to like you and you certainly don’t have to like me, but don’t try to tie my tongue down-I don’t believe in all thisbeing PC-The Bible teaches homosex is an abomination to God-well I believe that-But I do not have the right to mis-treat anyone who practices that lifestyle-If I see a person who I know is gay stranded by the side of the road, the Bible obligates me to pick them up, and assist them with whatever I am able to assist them with. Does that mean I believe in their lifestyle? NO-but they are human-So in my opinion-a man fighting another man who states that he is all man and not a F*GGOT is not necessarily calling anyone out-he did not call TR’s name. If however, he would have then that would have been an issue and that would have been between TR and Washington-Do you understand what I am trying to say? We cannot all get along-it’s not possible-but let’s be fair when we need to be fair-If TR were a real man he would have stepped to Isaiah and let him and him only know how he felt-we created this BS environment where we can’t be open and honest with ppl because it’s not PC-
62 The Truth : 07/03/2007 at 9:25 am
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I really think you aren’t understanding that he wasn’t fired for what he said even if that’s what the media focused on. Isaiah Washington was let go because of his behavior. He created an enviroment that was uncomfortable. It appears they were all ready to move on and then he slipped up and denied at the Golden Globes saying ******. ABC/Disney couldn’t count on him and he was a liability for the show.
I thought it interesting on LK last night that Washington said he had problems that he needed to look at and King mentioned his need to be “the boss” Washington also said some sketchy things like talking about a councilmen in his district that was ‘very gay’.
He’s just not believable
Peas and Carrots-Sweetie that’s wrong. It certainly is about the color of the skin-those of you who have convinced yourselves that it’s not are the ones with issues-Let me refresh your memory
Rodney King-Beat by 13 white officers who had guns-was said to be on PCP but no drugs were in his system
OJ-Was said to kill 2 people at the same time with 2 different knives while his children slept inside-then dashed home got rid of all the bloody clothes but dropped a glove-went to the airport to a conference
Star Jones-Surprised! Fired but Rosie resigned and cute little perky elizabitch is still there
Kids in Knoxville-Boy and girl white college students-both were raped, his ***** cut off, her breast cut off, both were shot-by 5 black teenagers-
Duke Lacrosse-Shaky evidence-arrogant prosecutor-virtually ruined the lives of 5 white boys-because of a black stripper who lied from day one-
It’s not right and wrong-it’s racial-same reason Israel and Palestine will never get it together-same reason Terrorist hate us-it’s not policies and practices, its racial-colors-whatever way you want to define it
This whole black/white thing is so tired. Guess what? Not everyone is the same color and just because bad things happen between people of different colors, religions, sexes or nationalities doesn’t mean all is motivated by that.
Why isn’t this a heterosexual/homosexual thing? And the question still hasn’t been answered. Why is Washington calling for TR Knight to be fired? No one seems to be able to answer that.
Washington also said he barely had any scenes with Knight. I seem to remember George moving in with Burke and Christina.
OK so Isaiah was fired because he stated at the GGs that He did not call TR a ******? Did you see the look on everyone’s face when he said that? You see I think by this time the cast was sick of him and wanted him to go-my point is that if he never had the fight with dempsey and never said the statement at the GGs he would still be there so it has to be that he was fired for what he said-If he was difficult to work with why not just replace burke’s character? I agree that he probably is arrogant, but I believe dempsey is too-one should not be worse than the other-I just want to make all things equal -for example if they both were wrong-then fire both of them-Dempsey didn’t say anything else, but washington did-so he get’s the boot-also I believe it’s what ppl think not what they say because thoughts lead to actions not words-you know what I mean?
Here it is yall-you do not own yourself-the studio owns you, your agency owns you, the public owns you-it is implied that you behave in such a way as not not deter or hurt the profits of the studio or the agency representing you-you do what you are told and you will continue to work-otherwise you won’t- this is for everyone in hollywood-black yellow purple orange-all of ‘em-Brad and Angie can’t just say what they want to say-look at how guarded they were when they first were together-because they had a MOVIE to promote-Isaiah forgot he was a paid slave-
this pinche loser needs to face the fact that his little carreer is O-V-E-R and stop throwing the ball at others… u said it, shut the f*ck up and let people forget about it… damn fool…
67 nutshell : 07/03/2007 at 9:45 am
Here it is yall-you do not own yourself-the studio owns you, your agency owns you, the public owns you-it is implied that you behave in such a way as not not deter or hurt the profits of the studio or the agency representing you-you do what you are told and you will continue to work-otherwise you won’t- this is for everyone in hollywood-black yellow purple orange-all of ‘em-Brad and Angie can’t just say what they want to say-look at how guarded they were when they first were together-because they had a MOVIE to promote-Isaiah forgot he was a paid slave-
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heh. It’s true. There are MILLIONS of dollars at stake for these tv shows and/or movies.
Isaish couldn’t control himself and he screwed up big time. For someone who claims discipline and honor he acted dishonorably. Just admit you messed up,and move on.
One thing America loaths above all things is a cry baby and right now that’s what Isaiah is.
I don’t feel sorry for him and I’m sick of hearing about this. I don’t think he should necessarily have been fired for what he did, but he needs to move on. BTW, does anyone else have a problem with his justification that he used the word f*ggot as a synonym for wimp?!??!
That being said, Burke was one of the more interesting characters on the show. That’s going to be a tough hole to fill.
70 Amy : 07/03/2007 at 9:52 am
I don’t feel sorry for him and I’m sick of hearing about this. I don’t think he should necessarily have been fired for what he did, but he needs to move on. BTW, does anyone else have a problem with his justification that he used the word f*ggot as a synonym for wimp?!??!
That being said, Burke was one of the more interesting characters on the show. That’s going to be a tough hole to fill.
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It might be a generational thing because I remember growing up and my older sister and her friends used to call each other f*ggots or f*gs all the time and it wasn’t meant as a homosexual term but one like Washington claims he meant.
I for one am sorry to see Washington go because he IS a good actor but he obviously is someone who is difficult to work with.
It’s not his job to police the set and get all up in everyone’s business. He was childish to say that TR Knight was trashing Patrick, what that had to do with the whole thing I’ll never know. He just made himself look really bad on LKL last night saying TR misspoke on Ellen, etc. He really could not and did not answer if this went down exactly like he says then what is the issue.
I think we all know, he did it. If he didn’t he’d have a wrongful dismissal case against Disney and he doesn’t. You’re answer is there
First of all, if America loathes a crybaby, then a certain person wouldn’t be inexplicably linked to the two who allegedly screwed her over two years ago. America loves their crybabies; only they like them in the personage of a woman, not of color.
And as for Isaiah’s career being over… please! Fortunately for him, he wasn’t labeled a ‘Mc’ fill-in-the-blank, therefore there aren’t any limitations on what he can do. Sure, Dempsey has opportunities, but he’s playing the same, nondescript ‘romantic leads’ that Michael Vartan plays, and quite frankly, when was the last time you saw Michael Vartan? Some people place Isaiah there with Michael Richards, but except for use of deplorable language, Richards was already typecasted and not working; Isaiah has talent and can go further, and it won’t be limited to BET productions either.
Isaiah will be fine, and that what galls some people. Too bad; you should’ve put him on a pedestal; then his fall would’ve been more devastating and permanent.
73 piper, with a low : 07/03/2007 at 10:02 am
First of all, if America loathes a crybaby, then a certain person wouldn’t be inexplicably linked to the two who allegedly screwed her over two years ago. America loves their crybabies; only they like them in the personage of a woman, not of color.
And as for Isaiah’s career being over… please! Fortunately for him, he wasn’t labeled a ‘Mc’ fill-in-the-blank, therefore there aren’t any limitations on what he can do. Sure, Dempsey has opportunities, but he’s playing the same, nondescript ‘romantic leads’ that Michael Vartan plays, and quite frankly, when was the last time you saw Michael Vartan? Some people place Isaiah there with Michael Richards, but except for use of deplorable language, Richards was already typecasted and not working; Isaiah has talent and can go further, and it won’t be limited to BET productions either.
Isaiah will be fine, and that what galls some people. Too bad; you should’ve put him on a pedestal; then his fall would’ve been more devastating and permanent.
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I’m going to assume you’re talking about Jennifer Aniston…but as you can see she hasn’t worked in two years. Another one who shot herself in the foot with her mouth
Who was Isaiah Washington before Grey’s? Please. And what exactly was UP with that comment about dressing in drag and men finding him so attractive he was scared? And the “very gay” comment too?
The NE totally has a source on that set because within minutes of the whole thing going down it was reported as had been Washington’s inappropriate behavior towards his female co-stars. Good riddence to bad rubbish
Reading alert-
The Mis-education of the Negro-Carter G. Woodson1
I live in Austria and here the third season is shown (if you receive the Swiss channel at least). I’ve not missed any episode yet. But as Isaiah Washington as Dr. Burke is one of my favorite characters on the show this might change.
I think from the male cast he is the one who can act. Maybe he is difficult as a person in private or to work with, but honestly - I don’t care! I love to see him in this part, it’s fitting him so perfectly. The makers of this show will regret their decision. Firing the one male actor who is best acting is not a very good idea.
Also want to say they concentrate too much on Ellen Pompeo/Meredith, as she (as actress) is really weak and cannot carry her part into some depth. Here they just had the show where she was almost drowned, and personally I would not have miss her. After watching so many episodes already one would think you should be hanging at the edge of your seat, but I was not at all. I was surprised how cold these scenes left me. Maybe - to not let her end so drastically - she could move away into another city together with her McDreamy (so not mine, and if he was the last man on earth LOL) and they could live happy ever after there (and out of my sight please).
Just a hint to the writers: As a huge (ex-?)fan of this show I want to see more of Chandra Wilson, Sandra Oh, Kate Walsh, Katherine Heigl and Sara Ramirez with the girls, and with the guys: Dr. Burke please! And a little Justin Chambers who’s Dr. Alex Karev has developed from an arrogant guy into some likable character, and let Dr. Webber stay in his office.
73 piper, with a low
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I bet you think the Duke Lacrosse players were guilty too? As someone said, if he had ANY case he’d be suing Disney and ABC for wrongful dismissal but he won’t because he cannot afford to have their HR file on him made public
The man is such a great actor. Why didnt’ he just keep his mouth shut and move on! He made a mistake. He said he was sorry, MOVE ON! Blaming people — even if true — is NOT the way to win back your fans. Leave it alone Mr. Washington. Move on with your life and career and you’ll be hired for your acting skills and not your mouth.
77 Um : 07/03/2007 at 10:22 am
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You’re a bit slap-happy with your accusations. What is up with your desperation to have everyone agree with your opinion?
it’s not only sandra oh who sent him an e mail, but kate walsh and shandra wilson too!!!! YOU REMENBER THAT ISAIHA!!!!!!!!!!! DON4T FORGOT THEM!!!!!!!!
What is up with your desperation to have everyone agree with your opinion
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Grow up. Your comparing Jennifer Aniston and Michael Vartan to this situation shows how immature you are. Go back to the Brangelina threads
lol, i think he fought back tears, not years ^^
anyway, he needs to move on… i´m glad they fired him although i´ll miss burke on the show but i´m not sorry for him.. he gets what he deserves
81 Um : 07/03/2007 at 10:31 am
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And you lack comprehension skills, much less insight.
Go back to **** and Jane!
That pedastal comment was funny, coming from a cult memember. He just needs to move on, he is a decent actor and should land on his feet unless he continues to bash this show or ride the crybaby train.
He is an amazing actor - he and Sandra were the best on Grey’s. I actually liked George and Izzy before this happened, but I think the two of the handled it sooooo poorly and now I cannot stand either of them and do not want to watch them anymore. Izzy especailly should have kept her mouth SHUT! I do believe the two of them used this controversy to try to demand more money and better roles.
I think it is sad that Isaiah did all that he was asked to do to “make up for it” and then was fired. If they were going to let him go, they should have done it right after the Golden Globes. He should not have said it, but do we not forgive anymore? Truth is they needed him to finish the season because he is the best actor on the show. Grey’s has gone seriously downhill and the loss of Dr. Burke has made the show even weaker. Sad.
84 Mmmmm : 07/03/2007 at 10:36 am
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Sweetie… you comment on the BAMPZS boards more than I do, so stop frontin’. And unlike you, I don’t roost on a thread for people I don’t like, posting for hours at a time, acting like I’m doing some sort of public service. And I don’t hide behind ‘freedom of speech’, while not recognizing the responsibility involved in doing so; you, on the other hand, do.
So back to Isaiah… he will survive this; he has a right to speak up for himself. And if it turns out to be the wrong move, oh well.
That was Ted C at the GG’s who kept pestering him about the situation. Washington has made it very hard on himself because now this is what he’ll be known for. Expect the tabloids to dissect his appearance on LKL and dig up things and incidents from his past he didn’t want out in the public arena.
HW is run by the gay mafia, yo
Racism has not disappeared. It certainly has not disappeared in America. Whether or not you believe Mr. Washington, racism still exists. The issue of whether it exists in this situation can be debated but Washington was gagged. He now has the right to defend himself. He is a very good actor. He had no choice but to give his side of the story. No matter who is your favorite, you all read these blogs and message boards. How many times have you seen false information? How many times have you known what the tabloids say was a lie or a slanting of the truth?
A lot of actors have attitiudes. If it was about his bahavior then he should have been allowed to resign or made to resign a long time ago. ABC made it about the use of the word. I believe he used it towards himself. I have heard men use it as a synonym for sissy or weakness, particularly black men. This got blown all out of proportion by the tabloids. He denied trying to stangle Mr. Dempsey (who is also known to have a diva attitude, that is why he had a hard time for years before Grey’s)
By the way, he was a contract employee and not an at will employee. Any lawyer would place a for cause clause in an employment contract. That is a main benefit contract employees have over at will employees. The fact that ABC waited till the end of his contract and then decided not to pick up his option tells me that his version may be closer to the truth then all the blogs, message boards and tabloids. For cause means you have to have legally viable reason to break the contract. ABC did not do that but strung him along until the contract ran out. Then they did not need a reason. They could just simply not renew his contract. Which is the course they took.
The man is a very good actor and he definitely had a career prior to Grey’s and I hope he has one after.
Smilehexe why you bashing Ellen here? She’s a great actress.
IW is an unprofessional actor and ABC fired him.
86 piper, with a low
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But piper let me ask you…you seem to think that Washington was/is some big Hollywood actor/star, I don’t get that. He’s been a yeoman at best with supporting characters and bit parts so how do you think he has all this star quality? I’m not attacking, I’m just curious.
he was a contract employee and not an at will employee. Any lawyer would place a for cause clause in an employment contract.
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He was a contract employee but there are also stipulations in contracts. They could of fired him and then paid out his contract but I believe because the season was not over they had to keep him to finish the year out.
For cause means you have to have a legally viable reason. It is not just about paying out the contract. I write contracts for a living. I still say he was strung along and his version (of the disagreement w/ Dempsey and that he was not referring to Knight) is probably closer to the truth than all the other stories floating around.
90 The Awful Truth : 07/03/2007 at 10:56 am
86 piper, with a low
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But piper let me ask you…you seem to think that Washington was/is some big Hollywood actor/star, I don’t get that. He’s been a yeoman at best with supporting characters and bit parts so how do you think he has all this star quality? I’m not attacking, I’m just curious.
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Actually, my point was that he wasn’t a big star, like Michael Richards… that’s why he will be fine. When an actor is a ’star’, it is often seen as a hindrance after their claim to fame is years behind them. Isaiah Washington is a good actor; he had some spotlight from Grey’s; even more glare from the negative publicity from dropping the f-bomb. But he wasn’t the center of the show; ABC never took the opportunity to build any campaigns around him; they may be more advantageous in the long run. If he works hard, he will continue to get work, especially if hard work and excellent execution of it is his signature. But if hair, abs, and public sympathy are your major claim to fame, then there is plenty of reasons to worry.
Should Isaiah Washington put a lid on it eventually? Absolutely. Because if you look at Delta Burke and all of the drama associated with her firing, yes, her departure damaged Designing Women, but it didn’t prove too lucrative to her career in the long run. Hopefully, Isaiah will have more sense and not talk about on an ongoing basis like Delta Burke did. But fortunately for Isaiah, his firing probably won’t yield him cr@ppy projects like Delta or Women of the House.
2 A Certain Smile : 07/03/2007 at 11:07 am
For cause means you have to have a legally viable reason.
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Right. Not adhering to the policies and procedures of the company that employed him and that’s inclusive of behavioral issues and creating a hostile enviroment. ABC could of fired him if they wanted to but they wanted to work with him until it because overwhelming that they couldn’t. Isaiah Washington is not bigger then Disney or Grey’s. He had to go, period. Now, it’s all sour grapes.
Sorry, but his version of events don’t even make sense. He still could not and did not address why TR Knight would make up the whole situation and lie on national televison and be forced to come out because of this. It doesn’t add up. Sometimes it is what it is and nothing more.
Maybe he was trusting the wrong person. I have seen him in many movies, he is very talented. Patrick in his face may have been ok, but could have been fueling and leaking all the info. Seems to be to me Patrick had the superior complex, he is the star and how dare you talk to me like that. I am glad he put them on blast, like Star did on Barbara Walters. People felt Star was this or that, even
larry was being smart to her, but Rosie showed everyone that Star was telling the truth. So I applaud him for still telling the truth.
*shaking my eight ball*
My question: “Will Isaiah ever work in Tinsel Town again?”
Answer: “Outlook is grim.”
He seems like a decent guy. tbh i don’t like the way everything played out from day one. if his story is true then abc shouldn’t have gaged the cast. Dempsey and Isiah should have cleared the air and chalked it out to a misunderstanding. I don’t buy that he called TR a ******. It seems like TR took the opportunity to play the victim in situation. Why did he have to out himself, go on Ellen ect., only to boost his career. His character sucks and I believe that he wasn’t satisfied with his story line until recently. Everyone should have explained the situation and then dropped it, instead it seemed like they let Isiah take the fall and then it spiraled from there. If he did call TR a ******, they should of worked it out between closed doors and supported eachother as an ensemble. Instead TR was unreceptive and Katharine clearly took sides. Any way imo this show is going downhill anyway. Burke was one of my favorite characters and Isiah is a talented actor so it won’t be the same. He has a right to tell his side, now it should rest.
He’s a MORON like KATE WALSH THE HORRID *****!!
Grey’s will be better without these two idiots!
86 piper, with a low
now that is funny, i think you are the team leader. LOL that was good public service, what do you think you are offering to the world and the public with your sad theories and dreams of being part of family that doesnt know who you are? oh gosh, total crack up. Running along hag the B&A thread is screaming for some hits. Careful watch that Pedestal that B&A are on, they might fall off thanks to you. Tick tock tick tock
Btw dont ever call me sweetie you freak.
@Violet
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. Was not intended. Ellen Pompeo is just not my taste of actress, plus she has the biggest part on the show. This is not fair. In the third season I see no development of her character, which maybe is also a problem of the writers, I don’t know. Look at Sarah Michelle Gellar in “Buffy”, she got better with every season, as if the role grew with her age, absolutely great. Great actress, great storylines… and Marti Noxon worked on both shows, probably more people I guess.
At the beginning I thought Meredith was funny… but now, after almost three years, I think she’s clumsy somehow. Then this theater with McDreamy, together, apart, together… not my thing. Cold coffee never tastes. And honestly, who wants a man who cannot decide? What kind of man is that? And, hello, a surgeon who cannot decide? Such people should decide about life or death in a second, hopefully. Why then not in private life? That’s a paradox. So she is not my taste, he even less, this couple just does not interest me at all. No offend to the people who like them.
The person above me seems to dislike Kate Walsh. Well, I think her part is interesting. Don’t know a thing about the actress, neither do I care, but the character is one of my favorites.
Smilehexe: I agree with you I don’t care for Meredith either and I also agree that if Meredith had died I would not have missed her character one bit. She would have probably been better as a full-time narrator, narrating the lives of the friends she left. My favorites on the show are Burke, Addison, Alex, Kristina (even thou she had to grow on me, at first I thought she was just to frigid), McSteamy, Dr. Bailey, and Dr. Torres. The others (Izzy, McDreamy, Meredith, and George) can have a very minimal role and the show would have been better with the others. I woul have also have liked to see them give the Chief more definition in role with his marriage than what they did, that was way more interesting than Izzy & George sleeping together, which basically put me to sleep, those two are two boring and izzy is just crazy in an unattractive way.
I will probably check it out this season coming up, but if it is full of the mess that it had last season I will no longer watch. The only interesting part of the last season was Kristina & Burke.
99 Mmmmm : 07/03/2007 at 12:25 pm
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SWEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,
Given the fact that your @$$ was parked at the BAMPZS thread before I posted there says more about you than me.
BTW… this is an Isaiah Washington thread, SWEETIE!!
Isaiah said in his interview that he received an e-mail from Sandra Oh who was in France. He received a text message from Kate Walsh. He received text messages and phone calls from the Nazi and the Chief.
How said that bloggers are trying to scue the truth.
6. I didn’t pay attention to Washington’s accusations until I read this blind item and the solution from months back on a reputable site that tracks these.
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25. WATCH WITH KRISTIN 01/10
Whiney Will is a pill. He is a lesser-known actor on a better-known show who has done everything he can within his power (and he does have some power) to be seen, treated and promoted as one of the main stars of the show. He won’t do interviews in a group. He won’t share a trailer like the other actors at his level. And thanks to his constant kvetching (and that power!), he’s slowly but surely getting more and more screentime–and this particular fan doesn’t think that’s so much of a good thing. On one recent occasion, Will decided not to show up to work until he got the same name-brand water delivered to his trailer that the main star of the show receives–and it “must be chilled.” Such divadom, no? And trust me, you’d never expect it from this guy either! - T.R. Knight from “Grey’s Anatomy”
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The truth will prevail~!
tr knight cannot act! he is not attractive! i cannot believe that 2 beautiful women are fighting over him. it doesn’t make any sense to me. why don’t they replace him with someone who can act or is at least easy on the eyes.
Jae, i agree with what your saying, but he did apologize and seemed sincre. it seems as though TR was not very forgiving, we all make mistakes, and deserve a second chance….
102 piper, with a low
Psycho, run on home. I am sure they are talking about how Brad and Mad created the air that they are currently breathing. AT your homebase (cult central) you have some credibility to the other freak of nature .. here you are just a lunatic.
@Shoes4life
Finally someone more not falling for McDreamy and his girl. LOL Good to see that! (Big smile)
Your idea with Meredith being just the narrator would be great but they could not do this as it is already used similar in “Desperate Housewives”, that surely would have caused some copyright troubles I guess.
Here the episodes with Izzy and George to become a couple yet have to be shown, but of course I’ve learned about it on the internet and don’t think of it as a good idea. George and Callie fit together, let them stay a couple. She knows how to deal with him and really seems to like him so why change that? And let’s be honest: A guy like George would never get a girl like Izzy, not even on a TV-show this is realistic. He is nice, but not attractive. Callie is sweet, not slim like the rest of girls you see on TV, but hey, that’s why I like her! And her character is interesting, strong-opinioned, a woman who is clever and knows what she’s worth (as she checked that she was just George’s #2 after Meredith), I like that a lot.
But please don’t try to sell us George as the ladies leading man, who goes from Meredith to Callie and then Izzy… as this is just not believable.
Danny I also liked a lot, but the writers let him die. Now find a substitute for Izzy… but not George or Alex please.
And what happens to Cristina now? Dr. Burke was the only man who could handle her, much fun with finding another so fitting character.
Isaiah is so talented, but he needs to move on to bigger and better roles. Like Denzel, only Denzel seems more humble. Isaiah needs to bring it down and knotch and go for some movie roles. **** TV.
@Liliac
Thing with movies is that they only last about two hours. No actor can develop a character as good as in a TV-show, that gives so much time to really show a character over years if a show is a hit and runs longer. I think that’s the advantage.
Some serial character become like “friends” to the audience. A movie can be fascinating and interesting, exciting, whatever. But the characters will seldom hit your heart as much as a good actor can do on a good TV-show, seen in a long term time period.
Maybe that’s also the secret of success for some movie sequels, who knows? Just watched “Die Hard 4.0″ this weekend, and hey, you go in, sit there and watch a few minutes, and then John McClane shows up again and you just have this feeling: ‘Hey, I know this guy!’ I like this feeling of familiarity.
I’m not agreeing with Isaiah on this. Frankly, he needs to just learn to shut the f— up.
BUT…
ABC is full of it with the gay-hab. They sent him to sensitivity training and misrepresented it.
If they were going to fire him, they should have done it when he used the term in the first place, not after it became public or after he used the slur at the Emmy’s. It’s as bogus as MSNBC and CBS radio’s firing of Imus. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t like either one of them, but don’t pretend you’re some champion of justice when you waited and waited and waited and waited for public opinion to determine their course of action. Cowards!
I think that the way that he is carrying on explains the reason that he was fired. He apologized, but he didn’t mean it, and he holds so much hostility towards others. More than enough reason to let someone go in a job that is constantly filled with new talent.
Grey’s is so 5-min ago, hell, 60-min ago! IW should move on, this is probably good for him - cut off from a dying sitcom, w/big publicity surrounding the whole deal.
after all, we all know what happens to sitcom queens after the sitcom dies off… but i digress.
i sort of agree w/IW re TR; TR whined way much about this whole thing. so sick of all this PC stuff. grow up and take it like a man! oh, wait… nevermind.
I’m white and i still think it’s because Isaiah is black that this happened….honestly if Dempsey said the word F*ggot do you think he would have gotten fired?
Smilehexe it isn’t my interst if you love Ellen or not. I think she deserves respect like person and like actress.
She’s the star of Grey’s and if you hate her you are free to watch another show.
What an arrogant ass! Everyone else agreees with T.R’s version of the story, surely if it was all a lie they would have said TR had made it up way back then. isaiah is just twisting this know and he looks like a stupid ass for doing it! im glad they fired him, what a total f*****g JERK! i hate him now, i had some respect for him earlier on when he first started but GRRRRRRRRR im fuming! I HATE HIM!
homophobic jackass
Am I the only one who thinks gay people are over sensitive!!!! Its not like the man went up to him and say “yo you are a f*****g f*ggot and I hate you!!!” He over heard the word f*ggot and started to cry like wuss!!!! Dude get over yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And for all the other cast members you are all jerks!!! You have made something so insignificant come between your friendship with this man (props to Sandra Oh :) )! There are millions of other problems in the world like hunger, diseases, debt etc but yet you find time to keep some bullsh*t like this up in ur heart. People keep telling Isaiah to get over it, the other cast members need to get over it including T.R.!!
Isaiah keep holding your head up and you will get past this. There is a lot waiting in store for you just keep believing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isaiah baby i’m sorry u had to leave the show b/c cristina&preston xavier burke were my favorite couple, you were the reason why i used to wacth grey’s anatomy, i been a fans of yours since 1996 when i saw you in girl 6 the movie. T.R got notice in 2005and ever since i saw him i knew i was weird. Ike just let it go , God has greater plan for u . T.R all i can say to u is “what’s goes around comes around”, and as for u Katherine if T.R is really ur friend u should of know that is gay and not b embarress whe someone call him a ******, b/c u choose this life, and what about forgive and forget.Just give it a rest man , ur make me sick.Thank God i don’t wacth grey’s anatomy anymore.GROW UP ABOUT UR TRY THAT………………….
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