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54 Dogs Get Vick-timized

54 Dogs Get Vick-timized

NFL star Michael Vick has been indicted by a federal grand jury in connection with running a dogfighting ring out of his mansion in Virginia. His arraignment before a federal judge will be in Richmond on July 26.

AOL News reports, “54 pit bulls were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a “rape stand,” used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.”

NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said: “We agree with them that dogfighting is cruel, degrading and illegal. The alleged activities are very disturbing and we are extremely disappointed Michael Vick has put himself in this position.”

Below is one of the dogs that were seized from Vick’s property.

Contact the Falcons front office to let them know how you feel about Vick’s treatment of animals.

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182 Comments

# 1

That’s Discusting

# 2
Hexstatic @ 07/20/2007 at 9:36 pm

What a f$#%$&%*. Hope he will pay a lot for this!

# 3

Sooo sad for the dogs. He and whoever does this kind of thing should be punish!

# 4

OMG! that is pretty sad!
…poor dogs! =(

# 5

I’m disappointed of him too , but I hope they give him a chance to play.

# 6
L in Philly. @ 07/20/2007 at 9:41 pm

why dont they hold vick on a rape stand and let 54 huge prisoners have at him, then make him run on this electric treadmill, and then take him to the bloody carpet.

absolutely DISGUSTING.

# 7

such shame! animals should never be treated like that! what a stupid f_ck!

# 8
[~Famous~] @ 07/20/2007 at 9:45 pm

He’s a Jackass, just like his Jackass little brother.

# 9

The sadistic ass! No animal deserves to be treated like that. He better pay for this - he doesn’t even deserve to be called a human being - because obviously the guy is void of emotion.

He doesn’t deserve to live a free life let alone one where he makes a ton of money. Throw his ass in jail and lets hope he gets his ass kicked and more

Your ************* monster!
That’s so cruel,I hope he will pay for this!

That’s not even the worst of it. Google the story you’ll see what else he did.

What a pathetic individual. Your a millionaire for goodness sakes! Absolutely disgusting.

absolute evil @ 07/20/2007 at 9:59 pm

Any human being that treats creatures that cannot speak for themselves in this way of torture and murder has a special place in hell!

There is not a shred of human decency in this man and he is nothing short of pure evil.

Thanks for address Jared, I will write a letter as a voice for the animals that had the unfortunate lot in life to meet up with this monster.

I respect that Nike is doing something now let’s see the NFL stand up for what is right or will they go with the money?

Mr. Vick - you have no heart and soul and this will come back to you, you can count on that in your life.

This freak will hire the best defense money can buy and drag this thing out forever. If he gets 1 day of jail time I will be shocked. The NFL needs to dump this loser.

good. he’s also a bad passer. hope he doesnt play football this year, or ever again.

THIS ANIMAL SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE…

This story makes me feel sick. I wish people would treat animals with dignity and respect.. they are such innocent creatures and most of them are so friendly. I can’t imagine anyone looking into a dog’s eyes and causing it any pain, it’s so.. unnatural and disturbing. I hope everything he’s ever done to those pups haunts him for the rest of his life. I hope he never lives it down and has nightmares every night.

I hope he goes to jail, then hell.. you know how many inmates have pitbull dogs at home? He might not do well in prison. They starve and abuse the dogs to make them more aggressive for fighting. They should dunk his ass in gravey and let them chase him…and….I hope one of the prison guards lets a german sheperd tear him a new one. I wonder if he will respect animals then.

i made sure to write the falcons my opinion: get rid of this sadistic piece of s***! how can anyone treat poor dogs like this, and WORSE, how can people GET OFF on such cruelty?!? thats not normal!! he should be raped and humilated himself….grrr…:(

Corpus Christi @ 07/20/2007 at 10:18 pm

Nancy Grace was talking about all of this the other night. She had a bunch of attorney’s on and they all pretty much agreed that he’s toast. They said even if by association no one will want to know him. He’ll lose all of his product contracts too.

If they did let him back, just think how the ASPCA, and Humane Society would SCREAM!

No Way.. He’s DONE!

Stupidity at it’s finest.

I would assume that do to the nature of the way these dogs were bred/raised, that they will have to put all of the dogs down that they took from his property??

What a piece of black ****!I am not crazy about pitbulls, but this devil deserves a special place in hell.

As the owner of a sweet, loving, kinda pathetic pitbull, I am sooooo angry at this. This is why the breed is given such a bad reputation. Punish the deed, not the breed. Put Michael Vick in jail. I would recommend the breed to anyone looking for a pet. They are wonderful animals, if trained NOT TO FIGHT! I adopted mine from a shelter and they rescued her from a overbreeding/fighting situation.

Someone was mentioning about why can’t he just go to the strip club like some other players? He must be a sick person to have done this kind of cruel thing to animals. Shame on him!!!

You have no idea how bad this really is and what an ******* he really is. If you live in the Atl area and then you are really seeing it all day long right now and we have been hearing about this for several months now. His answer whne questioned about it is always the same..”Ain’t gonna matter what nobody says cause all round the world people still gonna love Mike Vick”. I can’t even begin to get into all the stuff that is going on and the ways that he is killing these dogs when he is done with them, it is horrific. He is disgusting. And the hardcore Falcon/Vick fans when interviewed are all turning on him.

the poor dogs no animal desevers to be treated this way. he deserves to go to jail for life.

Nike should get rid of him. Email nike and tell them you won’t buy their products if they don’t dump Michael Vick. Go to nike.com and you could email them by clicking contact us. Michael Vick is totally disgusting.

How come no one that is in charge of this site ever went after ESPN for their hunting shows. They show dead bloody animals on their website. What is the purpose of shooting a hippo and standing over its dead body. Dont just go after Vick. Be consistent. That goes for those wackos at PETA too

He needs to go to hell, I HATE people who mistreat innocent animals and no I am not a member of PETA, I just think all these people who make animals fight need to be shot in the head and bleed to death. I would rather watch that!! ********

Thank you JJ. I wrote to the Falcons to let them know how I feel.

sick A$$hole, SOB

disgusting and sadistic !!!

Ron Mexico @ 07/20/2007 at 11:05 pm

“Anyone heard of innocent until proven guilty”?

It’s a cornerstone of the American judicial system…haven’t u people learned anything from the Duke Lacrosse case?

let the legal process run its course.

It’s also very hypocritical to call him an “animal” and “sadistic.” You people do know bulls are raised to fight in Spain right?…and they aren’t raised to fight each other like in dog-fighting…they are raised and forced to fight MEN…the bulls almost always ends up dead with a sword stab through it’s neck…should matadors ************?, are Ernest Hemingway and the Spaniards who enjoy bullfigiting animals and sadistic?.

You know what happens when a horse can no longer run in a race? They put a bullet in his ass and send him to a glue factory.

You know what happens to animals in the wild that get caught? They send them to zoos and circuses where they become slaves, live in cages, and are forced to perform for people.

You ever see a lion at the zoo looking weak in the corner of a cave because people have stripped away his only reason to live just so there dirty little children can throw peanuts at him.

Pigs are much smarter than dogs and we slaughter them daily.

Aren’t gamehunters and people who set out mousetraps and spray at insects all scum, too? It’s one thing to say “Hey, if Vick broke the law, he should be arrested.”, and quite another so say “Vick is the scum of the earth for participating in dogfighting” while you sit there in your leather shoes and belt eating a hamburger.

At what point will people realize that animal cruelty is an insight into a human beings TRUE core of who they are. Animals, especially dogs are dedicated animals, they have been for centuries and will continue to be so - if they are expected to kill for their owners they will but in this instance this is just WRONG!!!!! To taunt and stave an animal to make it want to kill is so against what the animal feels as an instinct. If this man was not a first stinger with Nike and every other endorsement in the pipe he would be kicked to the curb. Please Atlanta make a statement not just for the animals in this situation but for anyone out there that feels that the amount of zeros in your bank account will not keep them from paying a price for doing something wrong. Thank you JJ for stepping up.

stop with the comparisons to the Duke Lacross team…go to cnn.com and they’ll explain to you why it’s two different things. And let’s get serious, if you read the details of the case the house was built just with dog fighting in mind. Where there’s smoke….

And the dogfighting is one thing, but then gee if the dog isn’t fit to fight, instead of taking them to the humane society where worst case scenerio they’ll have a needle put in them and they’ll just fall asleep, these people have to wet the dog down and electrocute it, or throw it to the ground until it dies. Or even hang it. What kind of people do something like this?? So please stop the comparisons to hunters and animal eaters etc. That’s going to go on until the end of time. Dogfighting serves no purpose except to pad people’s pockets or apparently give them some sick thrill when they watch the dog being killed, or better yet get to do the killing themselves.

Passing Through @ 07/20/2007 at 11:20 pm

7 Alyn : 07/20/2007 at 9:41 pm

Why is there always some fcuking ass-hole who has to reduce a criminal act to race? You dumb mofo. White people RUN the freaking sport of dogfighting you dipsh#t! Do you think Vick is running this operation on his own? If so, you’re as stupid as he is!

Thank you for the Falcons web address. I just wrote them.

There is no excuse for this person’s savage behavior. Vick should not be an Atlanta Falcon or a free man walking on the streets of Atlanta.

Clearly, Vick’s abuse, rape, torture, and murder of many dogs shows a abhorrent, sick personality. I hate him.

Who else can we write???

Ron Mexico- There is an enormous difference between torturing an animal for kicks and killing a cow for its meat. I can’t fathom how someone could compare dog fighting to any of the examples you listed. This is simply put, a sick, sadistic group of people torturing animals! Furthermore, how is it wrong for anyone to call him a sick person? If he is guilty of what he has been accused, he is just that.

I hope that if it’s proved that Michael Vick was involved in any of this, they nail.his.ass.to.the.wall!

I’ve already signed a petition in the hopes that Mr. Vick never plays football again in his LIFE. Here’s hoping every time this sadistic sick perpetuator of unspeakable cruelty is boo’ed off ANY and EVERY field he sets foot upon forever.

I hope Falcons fans have the good sense to stop buying tickets and stop going to games. I hope every player on every team in the league refuses to set foot on the same field as this pathetic waste of skin.

With any luck, the shame of what he has done will haunt him for the rest of his life, until he is an OJ-style Pariah, who NOBODY wants anything to do with publicly, ever again.

He deserves to lose his carreer. That’s the LEAST he should get as punishment.

Are you kidding me? Let him ever play again? No. I’m sorry, but no. And he has no one but himself to blame.

This man has no business even sharing the STREETS with decent people, let ALONE should he make millions for playing a game while millions of good hearted people struggle at crappy jobs just to pay their bills!

There’s always some liberal who takes his side. There is no excuse for his behavior. I hope he’s not hurting any more dogs right now.

IF WHAT HE DID WHAT HE IS BEING ACCUSED OF DOING, THAN JUSTICE WILL PREVEIL, BUT I HOPE YOU GUYS KNOW THAT FAR MORE WORSER THINGS HAS HAPPENED TO BLACKS FOR MORE THAN 400 YEARS!!! HUDEREDS OF THOUSAND DIED AND NO QUILTY WHITES GOT JUSTICE FOR IT,AND IT IS STILL HAPPENING TO THIS DAY, LOOK IT UP, BUT 54 DOGS AND YOU GUYS ARE SCREAMING FOR JUSTICE, THINK ABOUT IT!!!

it’s people like this stupid piece of sh** that give pitbulls a bad name….too bad his punishment can’t be exactly the same as what he did to these poor dogs.

Ron Mexico @ 07/20/2007 at 11:34 pm

I like how u completely ignored my Bullfighting analogy n last paragraph KW…I agree, what kind of people do something like that?…r they not equally “sadistic”?

The case is not built around “dog fighting”…the legal repercussions will come from the money..interstate trafficking and funding a gambling ring…the government doesn’t give a crap about those dogs, however, they want the public to do so…do you know how many people fight dogs and don’t get serious time as Alyn pointed out?

For the last time, it’s NOT a race issue, I don’t care what color the man is. How are we comparing this to slavery now? And just for the record it’s not just 54 dogs, it’s who knows how many over the course of 6 years. The 54 are the only ones that are remaining as evidence, and they too will most likely be put down as they will be deemed unadoptable since they have been trained for fighting. Again, stick to the subject, it’s about the cruelties of dog fighting, not hunting, or the Duke Lacross team, or for God’s sake slavery and it’s certainly not about the color of the man’s skin. I’m sure there are plenty of white people involved too, it’s just an awful epidemic that is growing in this country. Hopefully this case will bring it to the forefront and at least shut some of it down.

#41 - Sharon, you’re 100% right….and how about the injustices, cruelties and crimes perpetuated against women and girls worldwide, on a daily basis since time immemorial? What happened (is happening) to blacks is inexcusable, but it doesn’t begin to compare to the THOUSANDS of years of sanctioned “bride burnings” in India, or the THOUSANDS of years of sanctioned stoning-to-death of female rape victims for their “Impurity” in the Middle East, nor does it begin to compare to the horrors of female genital mutilation on the Africa continent (which, again, have been going on since Biblical times). How about the murdered and abandoned baby girls in China?

There are many injustices (such as the shameful treatment of blacks) where there isn’t a cut-and-dried SINGLE perpetrator, who did the crime within a time frame punishable by the justice system, and their WEAK statute of limitations policy….

HOWEVER, Mr. Vick is the clear perpetrator here. He has clearly broken laws and abused defenseless animals in a way that should earn him a punishment fitting his crime.

I didn’t conveniently ignore anything Ron - I just didn’t comment on everything. But since you asked, I actually do find bullfighting sadistic. And I would agree it’s the same type of sport…both should be outlawed.

On that note, this animal lover sends peace to all and to all a good night. I’m tired of thinking about Mr. Vick.

Ron Mexico @ 07/20/2007 at 11:43 pm

Hannah, u like KW conveniently ignored my Bullfighting analogy…are they any less sadistic?

Again, it’s one thing to say “Hey, if Vick broke the law, he should go to jail”, and quite another so say “Vick is the scum of the earth animal and sadistic for participating in dogfighting” while you sit there not condemn Spaniards n other animal cruelty…thats hypocritical any way u cut it.

I hope that everybody who has taken the time to leave a comment here has also taken time to write and email to the Falcons front office. I really hope that he does not get any special treament for his so called “fame”

I just sent a comment to the Falcons. This SOB is dead to me.

Ron Mexico is one of Michael Vick’s aliases. Their obviously a fan.

#34 Are you REALLY Ron Mexico?

PamgelaTexas @ 07/20/2007 at 11:53 pm

He should be assigned to community service for the rest of his life to eradicate all dog fighting in the U.S. with expansion to other countries. Make lemonade out of lemons. People are not garbage, but their actions can be despicable. If he can turn his life around, he can show others how to do the same. He should be made to seek counseling and treatment to get to the source of his rage. All “acting out” that humans do is but a reflection/projection of how they feel about themselves. It’s time to stop the insanity.

Making him suffer is only doing the same thing that he was doing to the dogs. If we don’t wake up and stop the viscious cycle of abuse, all we get is more of the same.

totally disgusting!!!! i really hope this dude goes to jail for what he
has done. and i hope he gets treated the same way as he is treating these poor poor animals. i really hope nothing happens to these dogs becuz it’ not there fault.

As the dad of two pit bulls, I don’t think I can put in a blog what I think should happen to this low life scum chewing fuckwad non entity.

The sad thing is that he will find “jesus” then mention 9/11 and go to some rehab and all will be forgiven…because.he’s a football player and they are so above it all.

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sharon, i don’t want to reply, but u seem like u don’t care much wht he did to the dogs? dogs are like human, they hv rights to live in this world. wht do u feel, if ur one of the dog in vicks playfighting pen, are u happy? put urself in a dogs position. some people don’t care much about animals. it really doesn’t matter dog or not, but they shldn’t be treated tht way. you also mentioned about slavery, 400 yrs ago , who are those whites you gonna sue? theyre dead already! and i guess u shld be thankful, tht you were not born in tht era. just like the neo nazi’s, same thing killing all jews , etc. for me, i don’t care , if he’s my fellow, once u commited a morbid crime, u need to be PUNISH! asap, if proven. and please, don’t bring slavery or race , when someone is suspected of a crime coz it’s so irrelevant. peace…..

Ron Mexico @ 07/21/2007 at 12:05 am

Hear Hear Pamgela

I’m the real Ron Mexico Elaine…come let me turn you out while I talk dirty to you with perfect grammar…Just me and you in the VIP sip champagne from your stilettos… passionate evenings we experience, none of that crowd noise…I wanna see your ‘o’ face.

******* *******. THey should have his dogs just rip him to shreds. I have an amazing pitbull who wouldn’t hurt a soul and I can’t believe he would take such a loving dog and PURPOSELY make them into monsters.

*******. Hang him.

WHAT THE F#*K is wrong with the people that do this?!?!?! i would like to stick Michael Vick in a pit full of angry dogs and the just let them loose on him so that he can feel what these poor animals go through. I hope he loses everything and has no way possible of buying his way out of this. The NFL should drop his sorry @$$. There is no way to justify what he did, it’s just plain cruelty and hopefully he goes to jail for a long time.

WHAT THE F#*K is wrong with the people that do this?!?!?! i would like to stick Michael Vick in a pit full of angry dogs and the just let them loose on him so that he can feel what these poor animals go through. I hope he loses everything and has no way possible of buying his way out of this. The NFL should drop his sorry @$$. There is no way to justify what he did, it’s just plain cruel and disgusting and hopefully he goes to jail for a long time.

why anyone would want to put Vick into a pen of crazy dogs is beyond me. there needs to be justice in the system and sadly there isn’t. if he doesn’t receive equal punishments for his crimes i’m going to be very disappointed once again. if they take his career away it’s his fault but i don’t wish it upon him.

people who run dogfights or any other fight can get addicted. he has a problem and should fix it.

like everyone is saying there is a difference (might not be a big difference) with conducting fights like these and killing animals for game. holding fights is just a waste, i’m sure most people are not eating the dead dogs… for game, sure they find fun in killing the animals but they pay for the meat and they eat it.

PLEASE LEAVE A COMPLAINT TO NIKE.COM ABOUT VICK’S ACTIONS! All you have to do is go to Nike.com and hit “contact”. Also..atlantafalcons.com. HE NEEDS TO GET OFF THEIR PAYROLL. Shame on him. I hope he burns in hell for this one

AWFUL- there are just no words…

If people can’t treat other human beings with decency, how can they treat animals? Think about this the next time you treat another human being like trash.

7 Alyn : 07/20/2007 at 9:41 pm

***** needs to be put on a rape stand and have a big barbed wire pole shoved up his butt. ************ Vicks.
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Jared, please delete this racist crap.

Thank You. Your site is toooo classy for these bigots.

It is my understanding that the evidence is circumstantial. I think that Michael Vick deserves “DUE PROCESS”. He is INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. I will not be getting in touch with the Atlanta Falcons. They have enough pressure on them. I live in Atlanta. I will believe Mike Vick is innocent until proven otherwise. I am a DOG lover.

9 Blur : 07/20/2007 at 9:45 pm

***** needs to be put on a rape stand and have a big barbed wire pole shoved up his butt. ************”
Couldn’t agree more!!!!
Over and over!
Fu##ng hate this!!!
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Jared, please delete this racist crap.

Thank You. Your site is toooo classy for these bigots.

Funny, people will fight for the rights of a dog )rightfully so) but cannot bring themselves to not call a black person the “n” sword. Wow, our priorities are really straight.

Love the animals but god forbid we find it in our hearts to not degrade a black person by calling them the N word.

God would really approve….

they need to lock his ass and throw away the key. LOSER

35 Lynda : 07/20/2007 at 11:16 pm
At what point will people realize that animal cruelty is an insight into a human beings TRUE core of who they are. Animals, especially dogs are dedicated animals, they have been for centuries and will continue to be so - if they are expected to kill for their owners they will but in this instance this is just WRONG!!!!! To taunt and stave an animal to make it want to kill is so against what the animal feels as an instinct. If this man was not a first stinger with Nike and every other endorsement in the pipe he would be kicked to the curb. Please Atlanta make a statement not just for the animals in this situation but for anyone out there that feels that the amount of zeros in your bank account will not keep them from paying a price for doing something wrong. Thank you JJ for stepping up.
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Whay about cruelty to human beings? You don’t have to toture a human being to be cruel, the things you say about someelse also counts. I’ve read the most disgusting comments on this blog, it makes me wonder what the writer are in real life.

23 bls : 07/20/2007 at 10:30 pm

What a piece of black ****!I am not crazy about pitbulls, but this devil deserves a special place in hell.

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Here’s another one Jared.

Once again, show respect for animals but not for our fellow Americans - African-Americans.

Does anyone see the hypocrisy in this? What does he being black have to do with this crime>

Did Scott Petersen murder Lacy and their son because he is white? or because he is a creep???

vicks and asshole @ 07/21/2007 at 12:57 am

i hope he goes to jail cuz he deserves to get rape by all 54 inmates up the ass!! really dissapointing!!!

I wish this many people were angry at the thousands of kids murdered and raped in Darfur.

Anyone who teaches any sort of animal to be mean, to hurt or to kill should be punished.

Amsterdam @ 07/21/2007 at 1:00 am

69 So Much Hoopla : 07/21/2007 at 12:57 am
I wish this many people were angry at the thousands of kids murdered and raped in Darfur.

!!!!!!!!!
Thank You! The same people who are faoming in the mouth will barely bat an eye whn they hear about the horror stories plaguing other human beings.

Once again, people are qucik to judge.

YES, dog fighting adn animal cruelty is awful, awful, awful…BUT Michael Vick’s property was used for this dog fight.

HE did not engage in the dog fighting.

HE was not present when it was happening.

Also, is he the only one? How many people do you know that engage in dog fighting?

Also, do all of you eat chicken, beef, lamb - do you wear fur coats? Do you wear leather shoes and bags?

Diamonds anyone?

Where do you think your big mac comes from? Soy beans?

What hypocrites. All of you are doing far worst by engaging in carniverous activity like eating animals - animals who are abused and tortured before they end up on your fancy restaurant plate.

How dare you wag your finger at him when you are all guilty?

Just cause your chickens are not being devoured by each other does not mean they were not tortured before you had your grilled chicken caesar sandwich so shut the hell up all of you!

I am a vegetarian and have been for years - so cut the hypocrisy all of you.

“Team Lora Croft” is full of ****.

Dog fighting is ******* illegal, don’t you get it???

It is ILLEGAL in this country.

I hope this heartless beast gets tortured the way these animals were tortured.

69 So Much Hoopla : 07/21/2007 at 12:57 am

I wish this many people were angry at the thousands of kids murdered and raped in Darfur.

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So true. People will turn the channel when a starving child in Darfur is dying. People do not get angry at this. They will not condemn this.

But an animal? Well, people can be detached from animals because animals can’t talk back. People have more control over animals so loving them over people gives people a sense of self-worth and an illusion of being good when tehy can’t be good to people.

I am a vegeterian - for health reasons rather than some huge political reason. However, when Anderson Cooper takes his cameras to Darfur and shows kids whose skin is dropping from malnourishment, I get very involved and attentive.

Rightfully so we should fight for animal rights but why are you not this angry at starving babies?

The answer lies in the racist comments above. Someone said it so eloquently. We are willing to fight for animals and show them respect but the first chance tat same animal loving person gets to use the “N” word - he takes it. I can’t think of anything that is more insightful than that contradiction. How sad we humans can be.

74 anon : 07/21/2007 at 1:09 am

“Team Lora Croft” is full of ****.

Dog fighting is ******* illegal, don’t you get it???

It is ILLEGAL in this country.

I hope this heartless beast gets tortured the way these animals were tortured.

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Dimwit, do you have reading comprehension challenges???
I know it is illegal. My mom is an attorney thank you very much. I understand the law, stuptard.

WHat I said is: LEGALLY, there is no case against Michael Vick nor can we prove his guilt YET. His PROPERTY was used. He was not present. We have NO proof that he was involved in this. So we have to wait and see. We cannot be quick to judge yet.

I did NOT say the act was ok, I said we are quick to judge him when he was not present during the fights for all we know he may not have been aware of what was going on on this Virginia property where this took place.

THAT IS what I said. DO they not have first grade in Alabama stuptard?????

74 anon : 07/21/2007 at 1:09 am

“Team Lora Croft” is full of ****.

Dog fighting is ******* illegal, don’t you get it???

It is ILLEGAL in this country.

I hope this heartless beast gets tortured the way these animals were tortured.
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P.S.: I’ll try to write in simple English so you can absorb this somehow: you did not answer my question. How many leather coats and shoes do you own? Do you eat chicken? Beef? Lamb? Turkey for Thanksgiving?

DO you know hwo chickens are bred? Do you know what is done to them before they are sold to your local Piggly Wiggly? ANswer that and tell me you are not being a hypocrite.

YES, dog fighting is illegal but how is unleashing a dog in the middle of a fight and then killing him different than taking innocent animals and killing them JUST to stuff your fat face stuptardd?

Team Lara Croft

i don’t think you should generalize all of us as being hypocrites. sure i eat meat but i do not like the idea of torture these animals endure before they reach my plate. i thank my meat, i pay for my meat, i put it to good use. i will not become a vegetarian to make matters better for animals and you shouldn’t point your finger at me. i would appreciate it if you instead didn’t reprimand “us” but instead try to teach us something beneficial in an effective way.

and it’s great how you think all of us don’t know what’s going around in other countries.

I want Michael “the monster” Vick put in a cage where he belongs for the rest of his life and beaten to a bloody pulp by other inmates with dogs

what a disgusting beast and poor excuse for a human being

I have 3 dogs and can’t imagine how anyone could ever, ever hurt a poor living creature like that! What a sick and twisted world we live in……

oh and btw for anyone who’s going to call me a hypocrite, I don’t eat meat and find bullfighting just as cruel and sick…….and hunting is sick also

34 Ron Mexico : 07/20/2007 at 11:05 pm
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Your post is beyond brilliant.

Clearly a thinking person. And some of the things you brought up, I did not know - about the horses being put to death. Wow. Thank you for that.

Yeah, I wonder how many red state hunters and NRA hunters will go after Vick.

Ok to kill deer but not ok to kill bulldogs huh?

Well, you kow hunting is a gentleman’s sport - the blue bloods do it so it’s ok but dog fighting - that’s for the little people so take them to the gas chamber. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!

I have been saying for years that hunting animals is wrong, wrong, wrong, but then you’ll see some creep like Ted Nugent come on TV and run his trap about his rights and his American rights to own guns for hunting and blah blah blah.

Now that Vick is in the center of this - everyone is mad. What about Nugent who hunts for fun?

Hypocrites Hypocrites Hypocrites.

“Team Lora Croft” - what a dummy you are. “My mummy is an attorney and I am a vegetarian.” You know nothing.

“He was not present.” What else is he going to say? 66 live dogs + 30 dogs that could have been buried, rape stands, electric treadmills, pry bars to open the clamped mouths of dogs, a bloodied piece of carpeting….in his house…and he has no ******* idea what’s going on. There is PROOF that he was involved.

Emotionless, spoiled, lowlife, scumbag criminal.

I only wish that these poor animals could voice their opinion of what they think of this animal, http://www.workingpitbull.com/dogfighting.htm.

humans have the ability to fight back

the reason people get like this when the abuse is concerning animals or babies is not because they like to dominate them, but because they lack the ability to fight back- they’re helpless to cruelty. Humans (adults mainly) can defend themselves in most situations or get help, animals don’t have that option.

78 matt : 07/21/2007 at 1:26 am

Team Lara Croft

i don’t think you should generalize all of us as being hypocrites. sure i eat meat but i do not like the idea of torture these animals endure before they reach my plate. i thank my meat, i pay for my meat, i put it to good use.
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Well how convenient of an argument. You paid for your meat and so the fact that you paid for it lessens the torture the animal went through to end up on your plate???

Look , I understand people (especially poor people) cannot afford to not eat what is readily available and sometimes that is meat. Ok, I get it.

WHat I am criticizing is the hypocrisy of people in general.

They are quick to get really really upset at the act of animal torture that they see but somehow when they have to protect their own lifestyle, they close their eyes to how THEY engage in hurting animals.

Whether out of necessity or ignorance, let’s face it - MOST people in America are hurting animals. Period. No ifs or buts about it.

So don’t be too quick to judge this guy, when most Americans are meat eaters or have a million leather goods in their closet. Don;t get me started on the fur coats.

And like I said, what about Ted Nugent and the many many hunters in America. Why are we not as equally angry at them?
Posters above have called Vick the “N” word. WHat does race have to do with any of this? BTW, What will those people call Ted Nugent?

logistically there is a difference between hunting and killing animals for meat. but i’d like to think i could be given a little credit that yes i do eat meat but i do my best to make sure that the animals who have died for me don’t go unappreciated. i’m not saying that there’s anything that needs to be taken into consideration when discussing the right and wrong about killing animals.

but there is more to think about when drawing a line about peoples’ morals. if Team Lara Croft’s main goal is to put them self on a pedestal in this discussion then they’re hardly succeeding. i only ask what the real argument is here.

82 anon : 07/21/2007 at 1:36 am

“Team Lora Croft” - what a dummy you are. “My mummy is an attorney and I am a vegetarian.” You know nothing.
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Oh, don’t be jealous that my mom does not work at Piggly Wiggly like yours.

And of course, you once again failed to answer my questions:

What did you have for dinner the last 7 days? All herbs, grains and no meat?

What are you wearing? No leather goods?

What is your family eating on their plate?

You can’t answer can you?

Do some research on how your fried chicken and corn dogs got to be processed to end up on your trailer trash kitchen and then talk to me about animal cruelty.

Vick, as of today, is NOT proven guilty. These are as of now allegations. Until he shows up in a court of law and I hear evidence from both sides, why would I judge? Were you there moron? Read a book. Start with Dr Seuss. It’s on your level. Oh, and they have animals in them - right up your alley.

85 matt : 07/21/2007 at 1:43 am

logistically there is a difference between hunting and killing animals for meat. but i’d like to think i could be given a little credit that yes i do eat meat but i do my best to make sure that the animals who have died for me don’t go unappreciated. i’m not saying that there’s anything that needs to be taken into consideration when discussing the right and wrong about killing animals.

but there is more to think about when drawing a line about peoples’ morals. if Team Lara Croft’s main goal is to put them self on a pedestal in this discussion then they’re hardly succeeding. i only ask what the real argument is here.

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Pedestal? What pedestal? A blog pedestal?

BTW, correct grammar is : to put himself not themself.

Now, I appreciate your comment. You sound like you realize meat eating may not be the best thing but you do it and in all essence you are not intentionally harming those animals. I get the difference.

BTW, the hunters I criticize like that moron Ted Nugent do it for fun citing the right to bear arms to kill animals as an American right of his.

That is who I am criticizing.

I can’t fault the single mother of three who has to run to McDonald’s for a dollar meal of big mac to feed her kids. That is a need.

All I am saying again: if we can find fault in dogfighting, let’s look at our everyday habits and how they harm living things. Maybe we can use this incident to be kinder to animals in our everyday lives.

All I am saying, if Michael Vick is found to be legally connected to the death of 64 animals then a family of four has over the years been connected to 10 times that number. 3 meals a day times 7 for let’s say ten years. That’s a lot of animals.

I can excuse a poor family who HAS to do this out of need but I can’t excuse the middle class and well to do families who have the option but choose to have duck, goose, and veal everynight then scream foul when someone kills an animal in a dogfight.

To 86 Team Lara Croft:

Dickhead, you are insisting, so I’ll tell you:

My daddy is an attorney and I am on a macrobiotic diet. Not interested in meat other than fish. Do not own any leather goods.

Do you have any other quetions??

Michael Vick should be skinned, raped, and electrocuted like those dogs.

79 Zoe : 07/21/2007 at 1:28 am

I want Michael “the monster” Vick put in a cage where he belongs for the rest of his life and beaten to a bloody pulp by other inmates with dogs
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Oh, thanks Zoe.

Let’s show a human being torturing an animal is wrong by torturing that human being.

Makes complete sense.

Thanks Zo. You’re genius.

88 anon : 07/21/2007 at 1:59 am

To 86 Team Lara Croft:

Dickhead, you are insisting, so I’ll tell you:

My daddy is an attorney and I am on a macrobiotic diet. Not interested in meat other than fish. Do not own any leather goods.

Do you have any other quetions??

Michael Vick should be skinned, raped, and electrocuted like those dogs.

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Ah, now your dad is conveniently an attorney. And you (along with Gwyinnie Paltrow) are on a macrobiotic diet. Is your daughter’s name Apple too?

Thank you for your post. It is eloquent, poetic and supports my entire point like no other: you advocate that Michael Vick be electrocuted and skinned like those dogs as a way to show humans that torturing animals is wrong.

SO let me get this straight: torturing a human being if it is to show that animal torture is wrong is ok.

But animal torture is wrong. Just torturing humans who torture animals is right.

Right?

Riiiiight.

Thanks buddy.

ShimmeringDew @ 07/21/2007 at 2:06 am

I hope because he has money that he does not just get a fine and probation - i hope this leads to many other arrests that were involved and also makes him do some lengthy jail time.

I am the owner of a pit bull, rescued when he was 2 yrs from a dog fighting gang in Indiana. He is almost 5 and doing much better, but if you could spend just one day with him you would see and understand how much trauma these dogs go through… Just the sound of a door latch startles him. He is very timid. When we walk him on the street some people look at him and are frightened because he is a pit bull, but what people do not understand is how scared HE is. He is an incredible dog, the sweetest dog and so wonderful with children (pit bulls are known to be extremely good with children). My family cannot imagine our lives without him, he is the best dog ever. I also HIGHLY recommend adopting a pit bull.
And remember, it IS possible to save these dogs and help them understand not all people want to hurt them.

Talk about anal. lolol What a joke!

What a piece of sub-human ****. May he rot in jail for a VERY long time. A “person” who acts this way is a menace to all living creatures- human and non.

ANYONE who fights dogd should be made fight to death, over and over and over and over and over and over again!

Get this piece of shite convicted!

Almost forgot:

to Lasa´s comment nbr. 28:

Does the stupid f**k really think that he is well known around the world?!?! Ahahahaahaaaaaaa…!! What a wanker! Noone knows who the hell he is here in Europe. Gawd he is not only a sadistic piece of shite but a total nitwit too! Huraa for contact sports!

Team Lara Croft

after thinking about every point you’ve written i do understand your argument and i respect your points. i wrote the pedestal comment because it seemed at the time that were you trying to put your opinions above everyone else’s. i was wrong. thank you for the grammar check, while i was writing that i wasn’t sure what was the correct form so i left it as is.

overall, what i’m getting at is that i see your point and i respect what you’ve been saying. it’s just difficult to take people seriously here since most people at this blog jump to judge.

and again (this is for others to read) there is no logic in putting Vick into a cage with aggressive dogs in order to achieve justice. that is not how things work and it is not how he’ll (people) learn. he needs (and i hope) to undergo the same treatment as anyone else would in these situations and should be handled accordingly.

#6, I’m with you!

what a jackass!!! if ppl r cruel to animals then they should be punished in the same way as they have the animals! let him fight and put in the rape stand shocking behaviour!

pingy_ponga @ 07/21/2007 at 4:16 am

Jailed for life..i was watching it on CNN and those poor dogs were cryng so much when one was biting them..
And i thought terrorism was worst..

WOW terrorism is worse!

^^^Hey Matt thanks for your points. Glad you are another well thinking poster. Thanks….

And to this genius:
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104 pingy_ponga : 07/21/2007 at 4:16 am

Jailed for life..i was watching it on CNN and those poor dogs were cryng so much when one was biting them..
And i thought terrorism was worst..
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Clearly you did not pay attention to the Towers being attacked on September 11.

Umm, terrorism, I am sorry to say cannot compare to this. I am sure there will be plenty of geniuses who will proceed to tell us how it is the same thing but I refuse to accept that people jumping 100 floors out of a burning building that has been attacked by 2 planes is not worst than dogs getting tortured.

Sorry, maybe I am more of a “humanist” than an “animalist”.

Although, I doubt this genius would say this if Al -Qaeda came to attack him - I am sure he would know then that terrorism is far far far worst.

Yeah, it is bad but it’s a dog. Americans are so whimpy. It’s a dog. Get over it. Americans kiss their dogs on the mouth, sleep with them, spend thousands on them like idiots. They’ll get all lovey dovey when they see a dog but will walk over a homeless person on the street.

What about those stupid pit bulls who eat kids and kill humans? Why don’t you all get angry about that? What about women who are raped everyday and kids molested? Why don’t you all go and scream about that????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don’t want to continue and drag on this discussion too much cause it seems heated. I just wanted to say something to the people who were ugly enough to bring up race. If you check out this video on Youtube, you’ll see the trainers and guardians of these dogs happen to all be white. Vick is responsible of course but you’ll see that people actually conducting these fights and setting up the rape stand and tying up these dogs were white. So race is not an issue here. It’s about innocent animals. Humans have the ability to be good and clear thinkers. Let’s not get ugly. We are better than that.

Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW0dhh_Aj6A&mode=related&search=

i hope he goes to jail for life. that is just cruel. what a f*&%# ass.

Those of you who are putting this down to race are also ignorant twits.

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This post is specifically about dogs hence the responses in relation to animal cruelty. It is stupid to say that those who have comented on this thread a unsympethetic to other atrosities which occur against women, men children etc. Atrosities occur within both the animal and human world. But as humans, we are the more developed and have the ability to think and make judgements between right and wrong rather than react impulsively on instinct like animals do.

Any living thing deserves to be treated with respect and dignity. What a soul-less ignorant fool you are to think otherwise.

AAAARRRRGGGHHHH @ 07/21/2007 at 7:19 am

Why are some people here bringing up all kinds of other issues around the world? What is this article about? Dogfighting is it not? What is wrong with being outraged by this?

Stick with the subject matter why don’t you? Why bring up Darfur and bullfighting, and slavery and every other prooblem in the world? How do you know the same people who are furious about this animal abuse isn’t concerned about other issues as well?

So to prove oneself as not being a hypocrite as someone here so blatantly assumes of everyone who feels strongly against animal cruelty, one must proclaim him/herself a vegatarian who owns no leather goods? To say that dogfighting is wrong, one must also express how distressing all the problems in the world are as well?

In order to say this is wrong, must we also bring up hatred for the rapists and pedophiles? Must we also talk about child abuse and terrorism? Must we also talk about necrophilia and domesic violence? I don’t see anything wrong whatsoever with expressing anguish at these inhumane acts to dogs as this is what this thread and article is about.

Please, those of you who want talk about all the other issues, be it human rights or AIDS or world hunger when this article is clearly about breeding Pitbulls solely for dogfighting, go prove how educated or how non-hypocritical you are someplace else. All these issues you so badly want to talk about is irrelevant here. Clearly you have a strong desire to impress. Instead of attempting to sound intelligent and well-informed on a gossip blog, why not put all that energy and whatever it is you’re so full of in a forum that actually discusses those issues?

Innocent until proven guilty in the court of law? I bet these same people believe O.J is innocent. And for vegetarians who chose to do so because of their respect for living creatures. Are plants not living things as well? Do plants not have life? Are they not killed when you eat them? Come to think of it, bacteria and viruses are life too, so by taking antibiotics, you are in fact killing millions of lives. Eating meat does not make one a hypocrite. I don’t think many meat eaters out there would approve of animals being tortured to death so that they could eat them.

I am by no means crticizing the way you choose to live. Don’t eat meat, don’t wear shoes, belts or buy leather purses. Whatever helps you sleep at night. But hey, there’s no need to call others hypocrites just because they don’t live the way YOU think they should. If you want to be so technical about it and pick on dog lovers who eat meat, why don’t you also include environmentalists who read books or buy/use anything that contains plastic. Do you know for a fact that every household product you use, every cosmetic product you own (gel, shampoo, soap etc.), every medicine you have ever ingested have not been tested on lab animals, being the vegetarian you are?

Some people call themselves vegetarians but eat fish, eggs, drink milk. And where do eggs and milk come from? I don’t know what kind of vegetarian you are and frankly, I don’t care. What I find repulsive is the self-righteous attitude you have. Bringing up all kinds of global issues as if you are the only person who “cares” and is “aware”. What does this article have to do with that? How do you know people who care about animal abuse don’t also care about human beings? What makes you so special? What’s with the my mommy is an attorney my daddy is the president talk? Does that make you a more caring or a more intelligent person? It just means your mommy had intercourse with your daddy and had you. If you want to be respected for your opinions, earn it. What your mother, father, brother sister, cousin twice removed does for a living doesn’t mean jack.

By saying your so and so does whatever it is for a living is supposed to prove your opinions are worth more? All bow down to child of attorney, she/he obviously knows it all and everyone else who doesn’t think exactly the same way to this person whose parent is an attorney is a hypocrite.

My mommy is gynaecologist so obviously I’m the know-it-all of pu$$y. All hail the king of pu$$y please, no one knows good pu$$y like I do. You don’t know jack about the female anatomy even if you have one because my mommy makes me the expert. All of you who think you know anything about the ****** are all wrong. And anyone who cares more about pu$$y than penises are all hypocrites because they’re both body parts and obviously if you like one body part you should like them all because then you are a hypocrite, is that not your reasoning?

Well, how do you like that? Me rambling on about all kinds of nonsense because according to a few people here, if you want to discuss about the plight of animals you should also discuss the plight everything else under the sun. How do you go from illegal dogfights to Darfur? Please, why don’t you just go there already and preach world peace to them. Oh, you are not there aiding in any way? Doesn’t that make you… what is that word you so like to use?… a *gasp* hypocrite?

#109
Thanks. I think you’ve just about wrapped it up. Well said.

AAAARRRRGGGHHHH @ 07/21/2007 at 7:30 am

The word that was obliterated is ‘v a g i n a’. No idea why because it isn’t a bad word. Oh well….

what a complete piece of ****!! I hope they put him in Jail for a long time or at least unleash his own dogs on him so they can rip him to pieces!!!

how horrible!

He is a very SICK person that needs to be dealt with in a swift and aggressive manner. We do not need people like him being rewarded for their “talent.”

Thank you for posting this horrific story Jared. Hopefully, the world is entering a time when cruelty and dishonor in any form will no longer be accepted ~ whether 2 footed or 4 footed. Because the animals cannot speak for themselves, it is important that we speak up for them. Please write and call the Atlanta Falcons and the NFL and demand that Vick be suspended now.

sexybeasts @ 07/21/2007 at 8:41 am

AAAARRRRGGGHHHH! DAMN! Dog fighting is cruel, and people who participate and like to watch this, are cruel nasty as*es too!

I hope you all are taking a second to write. I did. It literally takes 10 seconds. Here’s what I wrote:
I will no longer root for the Falcons, buy ANY merchandise, or buy ANY tickets to ANY games until Vick is thrown OFF the team. He is DISGUSTING for doing that to dogs.

Just wanted to know you are about to lose a big fan, and a big SPENDING fan.
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Anyway, click on the link JJ provides and let them know you will hurt them in the pocketbook. That’s all they care about anyway.

Sadly, I am sure we havent heard the whole story ..the dogs that are used as baits for training, the puppies that get savaged when thrown in the pit …

He should NOT PLAY he should pay. I hope the NFL ban him forever.

to number 110: AAAARRRRGGGHHHH

I really, really, liked your post. You summed things up very well. Thanks!

Shame on him!!!!!

There is nothing wrong with being outraged by this post, this event, this disgusting act. You people that are saying that we can’t be angry at THIS because we aren’t angry about bullfighting and big mac and wars and starving children? This post wasn’t about ANY of those things.

People are OUTRAGED by any number of things in the world today, TONS of people; that’s why fur coats get paint thrown on them and why people hate Bush and why there are vegans… but obviously this post wasn’t about the other issues. What makes us such hypocrites for being angry at the topic at hand? It’s so appropriate.

Just for the record, I think bullfighting is horrid, the things that they do to those poor beast are disgusting and so are the people that find bullfighting entertaining. I don’t eat big macs, I don’t wear fur, and I do care about the starving children… but what am I supposed to do for them? Should I get angry on their behalf? I’d love to help them.. there are starving children in America that NO ONE cares about, and I’d love to help them too.

I hope he goes to jail and gets fucked up the ass repeatedly. Those poor dogs :(

awful, so sorry for those dogs…. oh god…

Jared, I am really upset that you caused this riotous behavior on your blog. I would expect this of Perez, but not you. This modern day lynching of Michael Vick is totally unnecessary. MV is being executed in the media right now and that is just not right.

I do not believe in animal cruelty, I have a labrador retriever that I love dearly (Moses). The evidence agaimst MV is circumstantial. I agree wholeheartedly with Team Lara Croft’s dialogue. MV is treated less than a human at this point and you are leading the pack on this blog.

#124 - Sorry but this ******* deserves all this and more for what he’s done.

Obviously he is disturbed. Too bad, a waste of talent. These atheletes are allowed to do whatever they want since childhood. Society has created these monsters by allowing them to get away with misbehavour for their entire lives. He deserves to lose everything if he is convicted of these charges. With a federal indictment they must have pretty incrimminating evidence. What a loser! They ought to chain him up and allow these dogs to attack his ass.

PingyPonga @ 07/21/2007 at 10:17 am

Ok ok i dint meant it like that

That’s absolutely disgusting. I actually tried to avoid reading the full article of what he did because I knew I would only wind up feeling nauseated. I hate any form of violence towards animals. This includes hunting animals for sport, bull-fighting, ****-fighting, etc.

I also try as much as I can to buy meat that comes from animals who’ve been reared free-range and/or organically and killed humanely, causing them as little pain and stress as possible. Unfortunately, I like my meat a little too much to become a vegan.

those PEOPlE who sympathize and trying to depend this GUY, if he’s proven GUILTY of his barbaric ACTS! those are people who are mostly cold and hv a black soul, i don’t care if u hv a PET! , i don’t know how u treat ur own dog or how u feel if its ur dog , tht was victimized and killed in a barbaric way. the dog don’t deserve it all, tht is SIMPPLY evil!!! but if he truly commited this morbid or beastly crime, he should be punished!!! and be taken off from playing.this is usually happened to athletes who are overpaid and hv overflowing, so wht else need to do look for trouble.

i can’t believe someone can do something like this, it’s so disgusting and sad, it makes me so mad when people do something to animals.
i hope they throw his ass in jail. i mean what kind of people can do something like this????

TO sicko’s on the Loose : 07/21/2007 at 10:31 am
those PEOPlE who sympathize and trying to depend this GUY, if he’s proven GUILTY of his barbaric ACTS! those are people who are mostly cold and hv a black soul, i don’t care if u hv a PET! , i don’t know how u treat ur own dog or how u feel if its ur dog , tht was victimized and killed in a barbaric way. the dog don’t deserve it all, tht is SIMPPLY evil!!! but if he truly commited this morbid or beastly crime, he should be punished!!! and be taken off from playing.this is usually happened to athletes who are overpaid and hv overflowing, so wht else need to do look for trouble.

I treat my pet (Moses) with decency and respect. He is well fed and cared for. He has his own area (500 ft) with couch, bed, fan, heater, television, and radio. He is walked daily with a .75 acre to run in. He has two houses. I still believe Michael Vick is INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. I believe in DUE PROCESS. I do not think the media should be the JUDGE, PROSECUTER AND THE JURY. I AGREE WITH YOU “IF” MICHAEL VICK IS GUILTY, HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR ANY AND ALL BARBARIC ACTS AGAINST ANIMALS.

for those of you that think everyone should wait until he’s proven guilty - that it’s all circumstantial. The man already admitted when this first came to light that yes he did breed pit bulls. And then the house he built is almost like a fortress from the outside, so people can’t see what’s going on, I guess that’s circumstantial. They find numerous dog fighting materials as well as corpses on the grounds. And Mr. Vick tells us “he hardly ever goes to the property”. Hmmm, that must mean he has been there (and I won’t bring up that the people in the community have seen him numerous times as that is circumstantial). So, when he was there as infrequently as he says, was all the dog fighting equipment, the blood, everything just hidden everytime he came in to town? The police seemed to find it pretty easily. Are we supposed to believe the man is just an innocent breeder of dogs and that’s it? And if he is, where are all the buyers of these dogs that he’s raising, why haven’t we seen any of them come out and say I bought a pit from him and the dog is the sweetest thing? We haven’t heard about that, as there aren’t any - his dogs aren’t bred for pets. And again, even more horrible to me than the fighting is what was done to these dogs if they couldn’t fight. Electrocution? That’s real humane. People are so disturbed by this case, as most of us couldn’t fathom what has been done to these helpless creatures. Normal people do not abuse animals like this. Only your Jeffrey Dahmers, your Ted Bundy’s. And yes, unfortunately there are numerous dog fighting rings - his wasn’t the only one. But, even the head of the humane society said this was one of the most disturbing cases he’s seen in that these dogs were just tortured if they weren’t able to fight, or lost a fight. That’s just wrong.

this about the barbaric acts commited to a dog, not about race, vegans, darfur, hunting and etc. why people make it more complicated? IF HE IS PROVEN GUILTY, he shld BE in JAIL period!!!! i also include those handlers and anybody who is guilty of this barbaric acts! i don’t like it when people make EXCUSES to cover somebody’s extremely mean behaviour. wht about those dogs who kills humans, the dogs or any animal killing or indangering peoples live was already put to death . NOW why make excuses for him?, who is he? is he above the law, because he’s famous and rich young athlete? and valuable player? B.S.!!! if a person is guilty, he shld be punished no EXCUSES! and to those people bringing Slavery and calling racial slurs are totally B.S! i don’t care black or white, yellow or blue! your GUILTY?, pay your due!!! if u wanna discuss a slavery, this is not the thread for it! people who are spitting racial slurs are ignorant! same with al sharpton, who only thinks the world of black. i think we shld provide just for who it deserves, no matter wht color. if u bring up race, u cause too much frictions , this create division between people among races w/c lead to more conflicts and commotions. peace

I dont know if vick is guilty- I believe he knew what was going on there even if he did not live there

1) someone said something about nancy grace- she is ALWAYS wrong, lawyers cant predict anything right on her show, and I watch it pretty regularly.

2) If the authorities were so confident that vick was involved, explain why he was charged WITH ONE COUNT OF CONSPIRACY TO TRANSPORTS DOGS FOR DOG-FIGHTING. This is the one thing I cannot wrap my head around. If They supposedly have All this evidence, just charge the man directly

3)If vick is guilty he needs to be punished to the full extend of the law, but I dont remember people being this outraged when Ray carruth killed his pregnant girlfriend or when Ray Lewis killed a man outside of a Atlanta nightclub.

I like animals and hate to hear bad things happen to them but everyone is a hypocrite- Nobody is emailing the white house to ask why VP cheney kills for sport or espn showing them hunt deer FOR SPORT. Please people, get off of your high horse.

Goodness, such hate without all of the facts.

Question for the masses who already have this young man convicted. How many of the instances was he present for? Which of the dogs was his physical hand responsible for their tortured death? Did he single-handedly run this operation?

Oh yeah, it was his house that he uses 2 months out of the year so he had to be there for all instances. With that theory then why the H E DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS is half of congress locked up for the drug sales in the US? We all know that the young boys serving time for the distribution are not the mastermind and did not provide a way to bring the drugs into this country. Afterall it is all about lynching the ones who make it possible right?

Everyone needs to calm the heck down. I am an animal lover but at no time do I loose sight of the fact that they are not entitled to the same emotions as humans. As humans we have dominion over all of the animals but right now everyone in here is foaming at the mouth like rabid dogs.Breathe and go use some of that energy to assist some HUMANS that are suffering atrocities.

Oh yeah, I am a GIANTS fan, if Vick is out we won’t have to worry about the Falcons in the NFC this year. Process of elimination works for me,

jade : 07/21/2007 at 11:41 am
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Dag you were reading my mind. Oh wait you posted before me so I was reading yours. lol

ITAWU.

he must be part psychopath, he needs to be in jail for at least one year for every dog he has taken their life away. in a very high security prison. *******!!

Thank you SO much, Jared, for the link to offer our opinions.

As a die-hard NFL fan (who even had Vick on my fantasy team) and a vegetarian/animal rights activist…I’m ashamed.

Lets pray justice is served and Vick get ass-raped in prison for a very long time.

blackfriday1978 @ 07/21/2007 at 12:55 pm

I read some comment that we should give this “person” (I don’t think a person who can feel will be able to that!) a chance?! The psychaitry has a term for these beings… “Psyho”, they are NOT be definition HUMAN. Hilter lacks sympathy, so is this one. A “CHANCE”… kidding me, rigth?! We are NOT talking about ONE or TWO or let’s say THREE dogs, 54 dogs and bodies that uncover on his property that die in different ways from different act of violence! a “CHANCE”?! Are you telling me that a dog is like a bug, a tree that doesn’t feel ****?! YOU KICK them, and maybe they don’t feel PAIN?! THIS EVIL doesn’t give ANY dog a chance… Next thing you know, he is going to kill you and asking for a 2nd chance!

blackfriday1978 @ 07/21/2007 at 12:55 pm

I read some comment that we should give this “person” (I don’t think a person who can feel will be able to that!) a chance?! The psychaitry has a term for these beings… “Psyho”, they are NOT be definition HUMAN. Hilter lacks sympathy, so is this one. A “CHANCE”… kidding me, rigth?! We are NOT talking about ONE or TWO or let’s say THREE dogs, 54 dogs and bodies that uncover on his property that die in different ways from different act of violence! a “CHANCE”?! Are you telling me that a dog is like a bug, a tree that doesn’t feel ****?! YOU KICK them, and maybe they don’t feel PAIN?! THIS EVIL doesn’t give ANY dog a chance… Next thing you know, he is going to kill you and asking for a 2nd chance!

blackfriday1978 : 07/21/2007 at 12:55 pm

calm the hell down, now use that same “outrage” (that what you hypocrites call it) and help abused children in community.

As a med school student it is my duty here in ATL to give back (part of the curriculum) and I know there are many young people that could use your assistance.

Thanks, and have a blessed day

He’s a disgrace to human kind. He is inhuman. Disgusting person should *********** for the rest of his life.

jeannified @ 07/21/2007 at 2:11 pm

What a jackass!!!

i believe if vick and those handlers , who participate in this barbaric shld all be INCLUDED not only vick!i would love to say they shld be treated or punished like the way, they DID to poor dogs but am tht evil, but they need to be pay hefty fine and send this money to all animals rescue groups. i am sure vicks has a lot of money, they shld milk that!i am sure , he can afford to hire lawyers and probably will spend money to save himself. if guilty , he needs to pay millions and millions!

This jerkoff should be put in the ring against these dogs and see him getting torn up and ripped to pieces. The joy of seeing him scream in pain would be more than fun. He is a heartless bastage.

He was wrong and should be punished but please save the preachy bullshit about animals when half the dog lovers who posted either said or were alluding to the fact that this man is black. Why would his race even enter the conversation if there were not some deeper issues going on beyond animals. I guess its under the same token as to why a thread about Jamie Foxx is more likely to mention his supposed racism than one about Paris Hilton. Oh and let’s not forget the “hang him!” because he deserves it comments. Answer me this: how is that a dog owner can clean the poop and piss off their carpets for the fury members of the family but if a person were to drop a cheeto on the same floor they’d be totally disgusted? I have personally run into a good number of people like this, constantly ranting about what disgusts them about people yet they except the slobbery kisses of their pets. Get it together. Respect animals, but don’t forget about your fellow man??? Or maybe it’s harder to except what you can’t train and control…

110 AAAARRRRGGGHHHH : 07/21/2007 at 7:19 am

Why are some people here bringing up all kinds of other issues around the world? What is this article about?
Stick with the subject matter why don’t you? Why bring up Darfur and bullfighting, and slavery and every other prooblem in the world?

So to prove oneself as not being a hypocrite as someone here so blatantly assumes of everyone who feels strongly against animal cruelty, one must proclaim him/herself a vegatarian who owns no leather goods?
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I was one of the people who brought up global issues on animal torture and humanity issues for several reasons:

Number one, I was baffled by posters who used the “N” word to attack this man. SO they are against animal cruelty but are not against using te “N” word to degrade blacks? When you use the “N” word, you are not just insulting Michael Vick but are also insulting all the black people that have nothing to do with dogfighting! What does race have to do with this?

So I was pointing out the hypocrisy in it all - how an animal rights person can see the wrong in torturing animals but can’t see the wrong in denigrating black people with racial slurs? Sensitivity for one thing but not for others? Are pitbulls more important than people? Shouldn’t they be equals?

ALso, I am fascinated by people who scream animal torture and I’ll say it again as I have been saying for years : they are engaged in supporting animal torture everyday. WHEN YOU EAT A CHICKEN, YOU ARE EATING AN ANIMAL THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THE MOST ATROCIOUS TORTURE BEFORE HE IS SOLD TO YOUR SUPERMARKET.

WHy are we not angry at this? I’tt tell you why because people don’t want anything to mess with their fourth of july bbq’s and don’t want to be told how to enjoy their labor day cook-off’s!

I’ll say it again, those in glass houses should not cast stones - until you have resolved issues of animal cruelty in your own personal lives, how can you be at peace with attacking those who have not?

I see absolutely and utterly no difference in the torture of dogs during dogfighting and the treatment of chickens and cows by mass corporations who profit millions in torturing animals in the name of providing food for humans.

It is a double standard. Whether you like it or not.

And yes, why are we not ALWAYS this angry at all global issues? I want to see a post where people are saying they will write to their congressmen because they want the US to send less international aid to support wars and more to feed kids in Darfur. There are 145 posts here and plenty of you have agreed to write to your congressmen and to the NFL and to PETA or whomever regarding this issue. GREAT! I am with you.

However, when was the last time you wrote to anyone asking for help for a starving baby in Darfur?

Think about it.

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xxxxxxx Everything that was done to those dogs should be done to him. That’s all.

What a stupid a** hole. I hope he never has a career again

THANK YOU, JARED!!

Bless you for bringing further attention to this vile story. It really is a thousand times worse than any far reaches of an evil mind. I’ve already signed the petition from the Humane Society (who’s aleady met with the NFL top brass), but I am so happy to have this address you supplied.

PEOPLE, please take the time and sign this. The NFL is requesting that Vick take a paid (!) leave, but he is resisting. We must make our feelings known immediately and clearly to the Atlanta Falcons and we must be loud about it. They don’t seem to want to suspend their player and I think that’s total CRAP!

He must pay, pay, pay for his sickening crime. I’m so furious about this, just like many of you are.

By the way, if you still aren’t motivated (like sullen girl), please do some of your own investigation. Go to NPR or google. Read and learn of the horror. Prepare to be shocked.

By the way our voices do make a difference. It’s such a small, small thing to contribute.

Thank you!

that so ..omg i don’t even know what to say..what a fucken ass hole.

I really hope they put him behind bards for a long time. It is sad that something like that is done to those innocent animals. :(

To “I hate Dogs”

You are a loser. I have no doubt you were unpopular in high school and as you sit typing on your computer, you probably have a face full of zits, and nothing to do on a Saturday night.

The difference between a homeless person and animals is that the person made their own choices!! Dogs and cats held captive are completely at our mercy!! These fighter dogs were raised with hate and no love. Other dogs and animals were abused and killed to increase their fighting potential, not to mention the abuse they have suffered year after year, only to die an awful death, such as through a fight, or drowned or electricuted (via new sources related to this story).

I give money to a homeless person, I do. I don’t step over them. But they made choices, they had 100% control! A dog or cat does not!!! Don’t assume, you idiot.

Ron Mexico @ 07/21/2007 at 7:18 pm

Props to Team Lara Croft for bringing some logic into this discussion.

This guy is a complete ASSHAT. I used to work for an Animal Alliance association and they busted a dog fight ring. What a lot of people don’t realize is that these dogs are kept as evidence until the trial. Here it took over a year for the trial so the dog were kept in separate pens in the local shelter. Over 50 dogs were euthenized on the spot and 50 were kept as evidence. These dogs spent a year in the pen with out being able to go outside. The fighting dogs also took up pens that could of housed adoptable animals. I think this guy deserved a tazer gun to the nut sack!!!!

what is a rape stand? and how can you 2 dogs rape each other? i figure if one is in heat and the other is horny, then what’s the stand for?

blackfriday1978 @ 07/21/2007 at 8:34 pm

jade : 07/21/2007 at 1:23 pm
blackfriday1978 : 07/21/2007 at 12:55 pm

calm the hell down, now use that same “outrage” (that what you hypocrites call it) and help abused children in community.

As a med school student it is my duty here in ATL to give back (part of the curriculum) and I know there are many young people that could use your assistance.

Thanks, and have a blessed day

who you are calling hypocrites? How do you know that I don’t help other people?! I help all kind of people and animals (not rats or spiders), so I don’t understand what you are talking about?! calm down for what?! I guess I don’t get too emotional when one day YOU are in that position of being abused, how about that?! you are a med school student?! seeing how you are so ignorant and judging without even knowing who I am and then grading who we should help and what we shouldn’t help… that explains our declining confidence in medical system. btw, I help the environment too… but I guess to you, you wouldn’t be able to understand someone who can help all kind of things that need to be just and right… or maybe I should understnad you, who can’t multi-task?!

Schindler @ 07/21/2007 at 8:41 pm

Anybody who injures innocent animals or children is sick and this man is rich what is the point? WHY!

It’s absolutely disgusting and no civilized person should condone or tolerate this. Dog fighting is horrific and cruelty personified. Vick is worse than an animal himself.

i hope he’ll never be able to play again!
he deserves to die in prison…or better, fight to death with 54 huge men…

ugh..people who hurt animals must go to hell xP

f*cking coward piece of sh*t.

CNN HAS A PIECE ON: Hogs versus Dogs fighting.

And there is an orgnization who is complaining that the gov’t is impinging on their rights when they ask them not to engage in hogs versus dogs fighting. Check it out.

Interesting.

This issue is not over.

Celeb_Star @ 07/22/2007 at 1:16 am

so sad, i hate animal cruelty :(

This makes me so angry still… I watch Animal Planet a lot and know a bit of what the ASPCA officers have to deal with on a daily basis saving all kinds of animals. They are such admirable people. Unfortunately most animals found in a dog-fighting operation are put down, the ones that aren’t are the exception and these are usually the female dogs because they were used only for breeding hence less involved in the direct violence of the ring fights.
I urge you guys to read a great book about the extent of the true problem of dog-fighting rings (including vets who actually treat and ‘help’ these dogs get better again so they can fight again, if it’s a prized dog that is, most are thrown into a river or beaten to death or they let another dog kill it and then just discard it like trash) and abandoned dogs. It’s called “The Man Who Talks to Dogs” by Melinda Roth.
I’m not a member of PETA, should some of you have negative connotations with the organization. I do regularly contribute to animals shelters, however, here in Melbourne Australia, where just like in the States tens of thousands of animals (mostly cats and dogs, some horses, and countless smaller animals no one gets to find out about) are put down due to a combination of BAD, BAD owners who shelf responsibilities once they decide they don’t want their animals anymore, like say, a few months after Christmas or someone’s birthday, etc.
I agree with a previous poster who said that pitbulls are victimized further by mainstream media’s portrayal of the breed. Watch Animal Planet’s ASPCA New York branch’s shows, and you’ll see that the pitbulls they save are such sooks… :)
A great dog breed book I found, and I personally LOVE the objective treatment the vet gives his book, and it’s warm too, it’s by Dr. Bruce Fogle, “The New Encyclopedia of Dogs” published by DK. You’ll even find out that for example, German Shepherds even come in white! (In most countries, including here in Oz, most of these white puppies are usually immediately put down. Apparently in this day and age where by 10th grade you learn about recessive genes, most uninformed breeders insist that white shephers are “not permitted in the rule books/not conforming to standards of the breed/blablabla”. (Funny huh, the connotation of white german shepherds being put down…) The white shepherds are simply a recessive gene, simple as that. There’s a breeder in the state of Queensland who received death threats because he did NOT want to put down these puppies, believe it or not; it’s the other breeders who threatened him.
ANY breed of dog CAN bite, it’s just that the mainstream media latches on to stories in which the breed is usually a reasonably big one. Think about it: lots of children are bitten by smaller breed dogs, but no one reads/hears about it because it doesn’t make “good” newsstory to say “Chihuahua/Maltese/Shih Tzu bites 5-year old boy!!!” It’s a simple matter of the size of the jaw and the size of wound inflicted. Also, we usually don’t get to find out why the bite occured in the first place.
A few years ago here there was a brouhaha story of how a boy was attacked by some dogs. The media made a big deal of how the boy suffered, etc, which I don’t deny, he had some injuries. What really pissed me off however, was the fact that the media said ‘he fell over the fence into the dogs’ yard and they attacked him’. On closer inspection of the news footage however, you realize that the actual side fence they were talking about was almost double the boy’s height. (He was about a meter tall, or just 3′4″ and the side fence was a regular 160cm, or btw 5′3″-5′4″.) Before seeing the footage I’d thought it was a piddly, short side fence but nooooooo, it was a proper tall fence!!! A boy does not FALL OVER a tall fence, he CLIMBS over it, duh…but of course the media made it all the owner’s fault and her dogs. Hey, what dog wouldn’t at least bark when a stranger enters its domain? Let alone climb over a fence? And what exactly was the boy’s parents doing? Didn’t they teach him NOT to climb over people’s fence and enter other people’s property?
Anywho, I hate people who abuse animals like running a dog-fighting ring. One of the ‘equipments’ used by them is treadmill where they make a dog (who’s been starved of food, attention, affection, care, etc.) run on it to build stamina and muscle, and when it slows down, they prod its genital areas with an electrically-charged stick so it’d keep running. I’d volunteer to do THAT to this Vick, but I’d probably have to wait in line though… See if he likes mild-to-high electricution to HIS pathetic nether regions… :lol:

Already to page 6 and about a handful (if that?) mentions of the fact that the man does not even live there and that obviously other people were. He is rich and the rich to buy homes in which family, friends, etc live in….At this point I wonder how much involvement he personally had in this, but alas he has already been quartered.

HE IS A DOG KILLER!! DOG KILLERS NEED TO GO TO JAIL!!!WHAT A MOSTER OF A MAN.

166 Jane Doe : 07/22/2007 at 9:38 am

Already to page 6 and about a handful (if that?) mentions of the fact that the man does not even live there and that obviously other people were. He is rich and the rich to buy homes in which family, friends, etc live in….At this point I wonder how much involvement he personally had in this, but alas he has already been quartered.
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You are SOOOOOOOOO right. See how we are quick to judge without facts.

Why aren’t people attacking the people in the house? But Vick is famous and rich so he is the name to pounce on. He doesn’t even live in that house. The media is so powerful in how they brainwash us. And animal activists have finally found a victim they can pin their issues on. So the war begins and nobody is thinking about the facts. The guy does not even live in that house.

i hate that stupid monkey, i wish someone would treat his sorry ass like he did those dogs!!!

and i dont care if he doesnt “live in that house’ it is his and he should be held responsible for whatever goes on in it. and to pretent he did not participate is to be naive. that ***** paid for this!

What a dumb *******. He should get bitten by his dogs.

Sick ******* excuse for a human being.
Someone needs to take his stupid ass to prison, tie him up to a pole, and have his ass raped over and over by a bunch of horny inmates.

169 ty : 07/22/2007 at 5:39 pm

i hate that stupid monkey, i wish someone would treat his sorry ass like he did those dogs!!!

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Boy, people really love dogs, I see.

More than they do humans. Interesting. Our American priorities are so screwed up.

Dogs can’t find the cure for cancer or AIDS, humans can. Let’s put this much energy on tracking down child molestors you retards. Caring for humans guarantees our survival. Let’s make that first and stop calling for the torture of humans in the name of animal safety. How bogus.

When the big earthquake comes down from the man above, God forbid, who do you save first, your child or your dog? Think about it.

tie him to the ‘rape stand’ & let the dogs rape him!
he’s a jerk!
he is worse than the most vicious animal alive!

What an A HOLE! FIRE VICK! He’s heartless! He sucks as a player anyway. Vick… U WILL GO 2 HELL!
Those innocent dogs!

PUT HIM IN JAIL NOW! And also……….. FINE him at least $10,000,000 and give those money to those dog shelters, charity!

I own a Pit Bull and I agree with most posts, esp. the one about why the breed is always condemned. Pits have a naturally aggresive streak inside of them, but you have to pull it out of them in order for them to attack or turn on you. If you train them and spend the time loving on them they are the most gentle, loyal and obedient dogs around.

As for Vicks involvement he by court definition is innocent until proven guilty. The facts/evidence however speak very loud. The only reason people like dog fights esp. with pit bulls is because it’s another form of an adrenline rush. So when people breed them to fight it’s a way to get their high and possibly even work out their own internal aggression in another form.

It’s degrading and low - and unfortunately happens all around America.

I hope Vick does get punished/ suspended. He’s disrespected his teammates and the NFL. He’s brought undue attention to himself and even brought one more negative spotlight onto the NFL.

What he doesn’t realize is that because of this more and more states may try to do what they do in Denver. In Denver they euthanize all pit bulls. Pit bull owners moved out of the city to protect their dogs. There are other places where they try to make it illegal and impossible for you to own this dog. And it’s all because people like Michael Vick think all pit bulls are good for is getting an adrenline rush in the off season.

This is the federal government going after vick, these are the same attorneys that go after scotter libby and other prosecute top mob bosses. The bottom line is, they would not of indicted him without rock hard evidence. This is not a dike lacrosse situation, that was some locat county prosecutor on a power trip. The federal government has a 90-95% conviction rate, that should speak louder then anyone who tries to relate this to anything other then the issue at hand. Why anyone would try to relate this to Darfur or child abuse is just using this as a medium to push their opinoins on others. Yes, Darfur and child abuse are horrible things, but just because those are horrible things, does that mean animal abuse is ok?

and to anyone that suggest violence on mr.vick is a hyporcrite, I love dogs, i have 3 myself. Do what you want, but use your voice an opportunity, write to the falcons, write to nike.com, write to home depot (Arthur Blank, the owner of the falcons started home depot)

THE BEST POST HERE IS... THE W @ 07/25/2007 at 10:57 pm

Number 110 - AAAARRRRGGGHHHH : 07/21/2007 at 7:19 am

Excellente!
All the arguments are good, but this one is the absolute best. Some people are more for helping other people, and some people are more for helping animals. Let them be. Just because some people love their animals more, it doesn’t make them evil. They have a purpose in this world.

We need all kinds of people for different problems. If all people only cared about people, who would be the voice for the animals? The animals have as much a right to be here as you and I.

Frankly, anybody who is not enraged about this probably does not like animals that much, so you wouldn’t understand. That’s my personal opinion.

We cannot save the world and stop every single bad thing that is going on. We can only try, each one of us doing our part.

I CANT WAIT TILL HE GOES TO JAIL AND THEN HE IS BUBBAS *****!!!!!!!!!!

jack garrett @ 01/18/2008 at 7:43 pm

if Vick is allowed back in the NFL after he serves his term I’m done with them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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