Brad Pitt Hits the Chicago Runway

1651 Mondo Bongo! : 08/21/2007 at 9:44 am
______________________________________________________

I just saw that too I am very excited. Another interview with Brad. Yeah!!! :)

1671 Passing Through : 08/21/2007 at 10:54 am
________________________________________________________

I think the fact that I know your a JP fan caused me to single you out. I never have would have thought that we would exhibit such disrespect to another family in the same situation as Brad and his family (constant media attention, lies from the tabloids, false and malicious gossip, constantly being followed by the paps). I can see that I was wrong. You seem to think that dogging Tom and his family is an OK thing. Fine. Knock yourself out. Tom Cruise is a really nice guy. He still does alot of great things for children and is a wonderful father to his own similiar to Brad.

This post from lylian has some very good points.

I blame her (Jen) for NOT TAKING THE RESPONSIBILITY to
change that.

She complains there are no good comedy roles for women, yet,
Drew Barrymore has produced Charlies Angel’s one and 2 which
are action comedies and starred in other rom coms. She
complains about not wanting to be seen at as a victim but
consider how the Vogue Interview and the Harpers interview came
out. The articles discusses at some length, her relationship and
break up with Brad - the elephant in the room. I only read those
2 interviews as they were reproduced in JJ.

Don’t say she doesn’t have any control over how the interviewer
portrays her.(referring to her VF interview) I’m sure she does have some. Look at how Brad has handled his interviews. In esquire and subsequent onessince. He doesn’t mention his X’s name and most of the time he
focussed on the present and the future.

She comes on Oprah and talks about the non break up, non
relationship, non boobjob, non career, non scripts. This is what
losers do - no matter how much money they have in the bank.
They complain about the half full glass. But they won’t go and
look for the water to fill the cup.

JA has NEVER wished B & A well, publicly congratulated their baby
Shiloh. Even Jennifer Lopez did that for Ben and JG when their
baby was born saying that she had no hard feelings and having
the baby was a beautiful thing. JL had been portrayed as the
woman Ben fell out of love with. He was quoted (true or not I
don’t know) saying that when she had married Mark, he felt relief,
like how you would feel after you vomited. But for me at least,
when JL made that statement about Ben and JG’s baby, I
thought, this woman knows how to behave in public - what ever
her private feelings, what ever her diva behaviour. I had more
respect for Jennifer L because she did the right thing for her
public image - come out and sound (even if she may not have felt)
generous, gracious. I stopped thinking of JL the loser when I
read that quote. Jen A has never sounded gracious to me in any
of the interviews I’ve read.

Excellent posts are being posted. Thank you to all who posted them and to folks who reposted some. Great job!

I don’t quite understand why women would hate Angie. She is an epitome of today’s modern woman. She is a doer. She flies planes. When she wanted a kid, she adopted one. When she wanted to find out about how people who are less fortunate than herself lived, she volunteered for UN. She doesn’t whine, plays the victim, nor talk about how she wants to help the less fortunate, she does it.

Simultaneously, she is beautiful, fashionable, and sexy. She doesn’t play up her vulnerability to attract male or female fans, but with her sexy confidence.

Essentially, she is what every woman strives to be but can’t.

1568 Wow : 08/21/2007 at 3:22 am
Here’s the thing PT, any female celebrity, whether she is black or white, is technically not the girl next door because she is 1. famous and 2. wealthy. Even fuganiston is not really the girl next door because of the simply fact of who she is. So you asking me to name one famous black woman who is considered the girl next door is not realistic, and isn’t what I was driving at in the first place.

Nevertheless, I’ll put out there that Tyra Banks is a black girl next door. In fact, here is a quote from her that is on her Biography at tv.com:

Tyra: Black women have always been these vixens, these animalistic erotic women. Why can’t we just be the sexy American girl next door?

So there you have one of the first black supermodels even stating that she would like to be considered a girl next door. What favour are you doing young black women by perpetuating a stereotype that all girls next door are white? Especially when you imply that a young group of women of a certain race (caucasian) all look the same.

As I said before, where I come from a girl next door can be of any race. And all white chicks don’t look the same either.

++++++++++++++++

How can you say to discount celebs as the girl next-door because of their wealth and fame…and then cite Tyra Banks as an example? Tyra Banks does NOT have the typical reputation of the “girl next door”. Name one media outlet that has referred to her in that way. The woman is/was a supermodel and has spent her career being objectified as the perfection of a sex object for men. That is NOT the definition of the girl next door.

I mainly logged on today to see if anyone would list X as an “ethnic” who’s got a rep as the “girl next door”, but see, that illustrates my point. Nobody thinks of X as ethnic because they can’t tell just by LOOKING at her that she’s of Greek descent. I’m willing to be the great majority of the population who know who she is don’t even know she’s half Greek. As long as a person LOOKS the part, then they can be slotted into any category. X goes to great lengths to NOT LOOK ETHNIC. She dyes her hair blond…she wears blue contacts…she got her nose done 10 times. Because of the character she played on TV, people put her in the same niche as Rachel Green and BANG!…just like that X is “All-American Girl Next Door”.

As for black women only being seen as sex objects? Well, who do we have to thank for that? Black entertainment sure hasn’t done anything to dispel that notion, have they? Neither has the general media. You say that were you grew up any girl, no matter her ethnicity, could be a “girl next door”. I have no idea where you’re from, but I’m from Missouri, and believe me, that ain’t the case around hese parts. Society takes it’s cues from the media. Whenever a woman is said to be “wholesome, perky, clean-cut” etc…they’d present the image of a white woman.

Basically what we’re talking about here is a cultural difference based on where and when you grew up. Missouri is basically the south. There’s not exactly a broad spectrum of cultural images presented as examples and idols. Let me just put it this way…if I stood on a local street corner and handed out pictures of female celebs and ask people which ones they wold classify as “girl next door”…there won’t be very many, if any, ethnic faces in that pile of photos. Now you know why Brad was so eager to get the hell out of Missouri.

1668 Passing Through : 08/21/2007 at 10:45 am
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OMG…

As you ‘predicted’, those labeling you ‘the racist’ are racist themselves.

This is just like the time that people were worried that Angelina was denying Pax use of his ‘Asian language’; the language in question… Vietnamese. :roll:

1559
FROM I LOVE ANGELINA.

you really think you judge fairly in your comment?all the things you said there was against angie who according to yourself you don`t know who she is.

but you pretended to want to say something very fairly but you put brad and x in top of the sky and put angie down.you are one of those people who really believe in golden couple.

you really think if brad didn`t meet with angie he wouldn`t leave X,wrong.they had problems and all of their actions from 2003 could show you that.maybe meeting angie just made brad face the fact that he didn`t live the life that he wants,maybe who knows.but say that you really think our hubbies and fathers don`t meet with beautifull and extraordinary women in their life,If you think so I can tell you it means you don`t have a solid relation with your family.but yes they meet with many women and talk with them in their daily life.but what makes them not leaving their life for those women is having a solid and warm house and family.

so they don`t feel they have less things in their life than other people.so see If brad really had a home which he wishes for you really think he would leave that home for another person.many people work with angie in their movies and when you read their interview you can understand angie had very good relation with them in set all of those people left their house for angie? no.

if you want to judge at first you should learn the most important law in it which is to be fair.

so stop pretending you are nice person with all of people here and face the fact.

another great post

1583 Wow : 08/21/2007 at 4:00 am
Passing Through, here’s an link to a People article posted on Kellie William’s site. It’s about celebrity girls next door and, lo and behold, Brandy and Kellie Williams (both black) are on the list, along with Katie Holmes and Jennifer Aniston. Clearly even People Magazine looks at some black actresses as the girl next door. Why can’t you?

http://www.kellie.de/kw_50most.htm

++++++++++++

Who’s Kellie Williams? Never mind…it’s another one I’ll take your word on. I wouldn’t have thought of Brandy as a “girl next door”. She’s the girl who played Moesha right? I just know her from her singing because her show didn’t come on in my area. Because of that I’ve never had her in the “girl next door” category. I just thought she was a cute girl with a so-so voice! Oh wait…I guess I do remember her doing that Cinderella remake with Whitney Houston. Now see…until the crack scandal…you prolly could’ve cited Whitney as having that “girl next door” rep.

However…congratulations are due to you because you DID find ethnic women who the MEDIA perceives or sells as “girl next door”. I certainly couldn’t and didn’t come up with anyone. But…now you’ve got TWO WOMEN out of how many hundreds or thousands of famous women?

BTW - note that Katie Holmes was ALSO on the list…which is how this whole discussion got started in the first place! LOL!

1692 saraicita: TWO QUEENS:this is the most beautiful photo,that i’ve ever seen.

After reading the so called “pretend to be fair” post which I believe is posted by a Huvane paid worker, I believe Huvane wants this triange to last, and does NOT want Jen to detach from Brad.

This is part of a post from Cliniqua. I believe this is very appropriate why Jen and the Jen fans have not moved on. I believe Huvane, of course, Jen’s publicist want to perpetuate this.

The following is part of the post from Cliniqua:–

I said it a long time ago. SHE (Aniston) needs to come out publicly, wish Brad & Angelina a happy life, mention regret over VF, and praise Brad (to make up for her attacks on his character)…if she doesn’t do that, her fat fug minivans will never really believe her life with Brad is behind Maniston - they currently think she’s NOT over him, and isn’t likely to get over him, and they think this way, mainly because ‘Huvaniston’ wants them to think this way and feeds these kinds of stories to the tabloids. That is why Brad is the bad guy, and Angie of course, is the bad girl. Maniston’s coninued loneliness, unhappiness is Brad’s fault. The minivans blame Brangelina for her misery.

1583 Wow : 08/21/2007 at 4:00 am

That is because there is no such thing as a “black” girl next door. If you don’t know your “black history” you don’t know jack about what it means to be black in America. (Yes, even in today’s time.)

1588 Wow : 08/21/2007 at 4:12 am
Passing Through, here is a link to some articles about actress Sanaa Lathan, who has starred in movies such as Love and Basketball. The first article refers to her as the girl next door. Personally I think she is just gorgeous and if she was my girl next door I might turn bi! I hope I have proved my point by now.

http://brownsista.com/category/sanaa-lathan/

+++++++++++++++

You’ve proved the media sees THREE black women as “girl next door”. If your point is that the “girl next door” is not just a white girl, then I concede that point. However, my comment was that the “girl next door” is strictly a ‘white phenomena”. Within the black community, and probably the Latin community as well, it is NOT a reference that’s frequently made nor are women categorized in such a manner. Let me amend that - At least it isn’t where I grew up.