Zac Keeps it Caz

i agree with #25

Just some thought on Disney and parents reaction to Vanessa’s photos… Lemme see… Britney, Christina, Lindsey, Vanessa, now, stories are coming out about Ashley and her Nipple, Miley in her underware, and Kirsten Storms arrested for DUI. If parents are going to crucify Vanessa- they should crucify all of them for their naughty behavior.

here are some links:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/entertainment/tittletattle/article_212103238.shtml

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09122007/tv/soap_star_dui.htm

#52

Vanessa made herself into a Role Model. Had she not said she was a good role model, people would have judge this episode (nude pictures) differently.

She set the standard, and picked the kind of relationship she wanted with her young fans. She set herself up for the fall.

What she should have done, is just say, she’s not a role model, and children should look at their parents if they want to find a role model.

stace
you dont know anything
forbes even comented on this
and they werent as idiotic as you
if she canceled leno thats her business
not yours
you dont know if zac had anything
to do with it no one knows but them
let her deal

I personally think that Zac and Vanessa are no longer a couple. They may have been at one time, but not anymore. Now, I believe their so-called relationship is all for publicity. They created quite a buzz as “Zanessa”, and rather than admitting that they no longer have a relationship, they (or should I say their PR team) instead decided to use their popularity as a couple to boost their careers and HSM2.

I believe this mainly because we never see any “affectionate” candids of the two. I only see the affection coming from Vanessa because I think she does truly care for Zac. However, I don’t see Zac returning that affection. For example, even though Beyonce and Jay Z don’t discuss their relationship, it is evident how they feel for one another from the candids that are taken of them - you can just tell they are together. However, with Zac and Vanessa, there are no signs whatsoever, especially on Zac’s part. People have even noticed that Zac doesn’t seem as enthusiastic when taking photos with Vanessa as he does with other female co-stars.

Also, in times like this scandal, that is where the truth usually comes out. You would think that if Zac was truly in a relationship with Vanessa, he would be more passionate either way. However, he has shown no emotions whatsoever, other than he doesn’t talk about his “friend’s” personal business. Yes, he may be displaying the so-called friendship ring, but isn’t that so much easier to do - just wearing a ring - rather than declaring any kind of feelings verbally? Zac is a smart guy. He knows the power of symbolism. He knows that wearing the ring will let Zanessa fans assume that he is commited to her without any words having to come out of his mouth.

Also, if I were to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is actually in a relationship with Vanessa, I would be so disappointed in him as a boyfriend. He seems “whimpy” as a boyfriend, not a man - because a real man would stick up for his girlfriend. It’s ironic because Zac has mentioned numerous times that the one thing he’s learned about being in this business is the importance of the celebrity’s persona. However, I am not at all impressed with the persona he is projecting of himself.

I hope that what I have just expressed is wrong. I truly would like to believe that Zac and Vanessa still do have more than just a friendship - that they are still a romantic two-some. However, from what I see and read about them, I just don’t believe that they are a couple anymore.

Gah. I am so in love with these pictures and I can’t stand how cute Zac and Nikki are together when I know he’s dating Vanessa. I doubt that will last long considering right now she’s not good for his image. Does anyone know how long they’ve been going out? Because I don’t doubt that if he wasn’t dating Vanessa while shooting Hairspray him and Nikki definitely hooked up. Oh well. I’m rather bummed that Vanessa canceled her appearance on Leno, I can’t stand the girl but I definitely had it set on my tivo to see if they brought up anything about the nude pictures. Oh well hopefully she’ll come out of hiding and actually talk about her ****** ways.

#52 (Flisbeth) - I respect your views and can see reasoning behind some of your thoughts but I was just putting forward my opinion which I am entitled to have, as are you. I was not implying that a role model needs to be perfect, and I agree with you in saying good luck finding one because that is exactly right. Of couse nobody is perfect but come on, posing nude for photos when you are working in an industry where most aspects of your life are made public whether you like it or not, is absolutely ridiculous. She was not THAT young not to know what she was doing. And any person working in the entertainment industry can tell you, you have to keep a check on your actions because whether you like it or not, you will be scrutinized constantly and unfortunately there isn’t much you can do about that.

#49 (Lynn) - No I don’t think that’s wrong, you are quite right. If she did that I would without hestiation commend her on her actions but cancelling on Leno doesn’t help the situation. She is just choosing not to face the music. If she does not speak out about it sooner rather than later, it will just tarnish her image further. If she comes out and speaks about it now she can move on and try to recover from the situation.

Sorry for the double post earlier on!

Sometimes I think that Vanessa’s scandal was made far worse because of the fans of HSM, who saw her as Gabriella and wanted her to be that kind of person. Oh, how we wanted her to be the good, innocent, role model she talked about. Not like Britney, Lindsey, or Paris. But, the fact of the matter is that she is HUMAN- not this made up character. and Human beings are not perfect and they make mistakes, poor judgements. No matter, there will be more scandals form many more celebrities tomorrow and the near future and we will talk about those as well. They are ONLY HUMAN after all.

I wrote this in the other thread so I thought I’d put it here to. Just so you guys know - truthfully, I have no problem with Vanessa what so ever. I didn’t really know much about her, Zac and Nikki before all this stuff happened, it was only when I found out about the photo situation I read up about them a bit more. I was just expressing my views/thoughts on the situation and how I personally see it. Obviously not everybody is going to agree with me and vice versa but hey, all I can really say is I just analysed the situation from my perspective. Like I said at the end of my post, I apologise if I offended anybody with my opinions.

#62 (former #45) sorry wasn’t having a go at you and I do see “the deeper meaning” in your post, just think some of it was a little harsh - because I have enjoyed Vanessas work and have “stood by her” as I do realize that she is only human, I don’t consider myself a hypocrit as time has thought me that when you don’t have the whole story you really shouldn’t judge..so I try my best not to :)
I agree that it might sound a bit hollow now looking back on her saying that she found it easy to be “a goof rolemodel” if you ever thought that she was perfect!
I enjoy watching the interviews with the High School Musical cast as I laugh quietly to myself and think..Uh in 10-years mate you are going to look back on this and want to dig a very big hole for yourself. I can easly remeber how sure of myself I was at 18 and now some 10 years later I laugh at myself cause I knew sh..!
But I still say she is human and it is some how in our DNA to do stuid things..some more than others and some more stupid that should really be allowed. Should she not have done it?! Well that is really for her to strugle with, but if the worst thing she ever does is this…I will still like to think of her as a good girl!

#61 vvs, that was really the point I was (badly hehe) trying to get across in there somewhere…we are all just human beings at the end of the day and we need to find rolemodels that are real and that we can respect stupid actions and all.

OMG ZAC I LOVE YOU!
Thanks for uploading!

25 Leslie :

agree, agree. zac appears to intentionally showing the ring. love him. zac looks hot, but tired.

and stace: we’re not all 12 years old, or hypocrites!

Ummmm… Hello! The girl posed nude! she did not get caught with a DUI- where she could’ve killed someone by doing that. She did not get caught snorting, shooting up, drugs, which is illegal. She did not do anything malicious to hurt another person. WTF- I am tired of all this Vanessa is horrible because she posed nude in the privacy of her own home! what’s wrong with that sentenc?????????? EFFIN WAKE UP AMERICA AND GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!