Jon Voight and Angelina Jolie on the Mends?

first? lol

I THINK IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THEY MADE UP.

YES! YES! It’s about time!

I am truly hoping. Having family you cannot or will not speak to is so unhealthy. I think John may have learned his lesson. If he can be truly apologetic, sincerely, it may happen. Brad will do all he can to help, for certain.

OK Jared! You know best!

I guess I’m banned. Goodbye.

Who knows? Could just be JV trying to get some sympathy and PR. Whatever, Angie knows what’s best for her and the kids.

I hope Angelina Jolie and her dad patches things. Life is too short.

I don’t what is what? My on concern is, will JV the Snake betray his daughter again if she lets him back in her life?

It’s no longer just Angie that will get hurt this time around. She now has four children with more to join the family and we all know Angie’s first and foremost priority is her children.

Also the snake has had so many changes — I mean, how many does he need to finally grow up and become a decent human being? And one finally question is JV trying to undo the damage he done to his son James or is it only Angie because she is the famous one in the family?

I hope not….

lol @ “draw your own conclusions!”

sounds like the fans have you scared to make one.

Jamie seems as if he is NEVER gonna make up with him and no one is concerned about that.

Didn’t she say recently that they exchange letters or something like that. Look life is too short, and I am sure Angelina has reasons both public and private for cutting him off. I just hope that they made peace and she at least allows him to try and forge some sort of relationship with his grandchldren. However, one day Brad and Angelina will be judged by their kids, and hopefully if mistakes were made (all parents do ) they will be forgiving to their parents. I hope she gives him a chance and I hope he doesn’t hurt her anymore.

maybe that’s why she’s been looking so much happier lately. All this time I thought it was because she was boinking the bodyguard. .

25 alittlejen : 10/07/2007 at 10:40 pm
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The question is: How many times does she have to forgive him?

Sorry, but i think she has already forgive him to many times.

#27, hi fans…oh, my gosh. You are really so clever. True wit. No, really. Wow. Yeah…

27 hi fans : 10/07/2007 at 10:42 pm
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Ridzy girl, you thought that, because you have a sick mind.

wish Angie and her dad the best, hope they could patch things up.

As fans who cares so much for Angie/Brad and their beautiful family. Let’s be supportive of what is going on. Lets contiue to pray that both of them find peace. He is getting old, it is time for healing. I love Angie and respect her privacy when it comes to this situation.

29 juju : 10/07/2007 at 10:45 pm
25 alittlejen : 10/07/2007 at 10:40 pm
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The question is: How many times does she have to forgive him?

Sorry, but i think she has already forgive him to many times.

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I think Jon Voight has issues, like everyone of us do. I just think for the sake of her children she should at least make one more effort. Jon Voight really screwed up, by going public and saying things that should have remained private. I will say this if you followed this riff, at one point they seem to have had a great relationship, then Angelina marries Billy BoB, and we all know the rest of the story. If you look back at videos of Angelina during her Billy Bob phase, something seemed very off. That letter that Angelina has talked about could have been a form of intervention. I think any parent would be concerened if you see your child behaving in a certain way, his mistake was going public. I never felt that Jon Voight hated Angelina, I think he was concerned about her behavior.

I hope Angie will do whatever she needs to. If she needs to forgive and forget and move on then I hope that’s what happens. I think only Angie should decide what is best for her and her kids and her family. Brad has been and is such a great partner and father to their kids and friend for her. Even without JV I think Angie’s life if full and complete.

It would be nice but don’t count on it.

15 christina : 10/07/2007 at 10:34 pm
I hope Angelina Jolie and her dad patches things. Life is too short.

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Do you wish the same from Angie’s brother James, too? Or did you not see James’ recent comment to Marie Claire magazine that he was involved with philanthopy not just because of Angie, but because he had witnessed the mental abuse his father heaped on his mother and that made him empathetic to the problems of women & children. He wished his father well, but he very clearly has nothing to do with him and wants nothing to do with him.

38 AddictedtoBAMPZs : 10/07/2007 at 10:56 pm
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LMFAO!! Someone is so BUSTED!!!

36 Lady G : 10/07/2007 at 10:53 pm
28 Rayssa : 10/07/2007 at 10:44 pm

I can’t wait to see pics of Jon Voight with his 4 grandchildren!

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From JV own mouth he only considers Shiloh to be his grandchild … as he said in an interview with ShowBiz Tonight he wishes Brad, Angie and their child the best. Then he add on the ‘other children!” A statement like this says a lot about the so-called man and how he views Mad, Pax, and Zahara.

As I stated before it will not be just Angie getting hurt if she lets him back into her life. As a parent once you have children it is your job to protect them from all harm even if comes in the form of your sperm donor.

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I agree that Jon Voight should acknowledge all of his grandchildren, however if Angelina has publically said that even with Brad’s parents that it was at first a little different (I will look for the quote) with her coming into their family with Maddox and Zee, does that make Brad’s parents evil? I don’t think so. I think Jon Voight needs to at least have his “at first” moment. Look adoption is not for everyone, if it was, their would be alot more homes open to these kids. Angelina and Brad are beautiful human beings to open their home and their heart to these kids. To be able to love them equally and the same. It is not an issue with them, however it does not mean that everyone including jon voight are automatically the same way. I am sure he will also need time to get use to the situation and learn to accept and love all the children in the same way. I don’t think any of us can judge jon voight and his love for Shiloh vs Mad, Zee, Pax until he at least gets to meet them. Hopefully he has gotten his chance.

7 AddictedtoBAMPZs : 10/07/2007 at 10:24 pm

Having family you cannot or will not speak to is so unhealthy.
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This is not always true. Some family members are toxic, and it can be unhealthy for you to have them in your life.

But as far as Jon Voight, I think he has learned his lesson.

I wonder what the papers are in his hand - perhaps she left him a letter? Of course they could have nothing to do with her whatsoever…

45 Passing Through : 10/07/2007 at 11:03 pm
15 christina : 10/07/2007 at 10:34 pm
I hope Angelina Jolie and her dad patches things. Life is too short.

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Do you wish the same from Angie’s brother James, too? Or did you not see James’ recent comment to Marie Claire magazine that he was involved with philanthopy not just because of Angie, but because he had witnessed the mental abuse his father heaped on his mother and that made him empathetic to the problems of women & children. He wished his father well, but he very clearly has nothing to do with him and wants nothing to do with him.

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Yes I wish James will patch things up. It is obvious Jon Voight screwed up when it came to relationships, whether it be his children or his wife. I just think it would be nice if they could forgive each other and be a family. Whether that happens is up to them. Jon Voight can not go back in time and correct mistakes he has made. He seems to be willing to give it a shot.

I think Jamie is around in NYC too. From what I read, Brad, Angie, Jamie and MP were seen out together.

I really am not going to voice an opinion one way or another concerning Angelina/Dad. I just hope that the happiness they seemed to have achieved last . I think it will.

39 alittlejen : 10/07/2007 at 10:57 pm
29 juju : 10/07/2007 at 10:45 pm
25 alittlejen : 10/07/2007 at 10:40 pm
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The question is: How many times does she have to forgive him?

Sorry, but i think she has already forgive him to many times.

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I think Jon Voight has issues, like everyone of us do. I just think for the sake of her children she should at least make one more effort. Jon Voight really screwed up, by going public and saying things that should have remained private. I will say this if you followed this riff, at one point they seem to have had a great relationship, then Angelina marries Billy BoB, and we all know the rest of the story. If you look back at videos of Angelina during her Billy Bob phase, something seemed very off. That letter that Angelina has talked about could have been a form of intervention. I think any parent would be concerened if you see your child behaving in a certain way, his mistake was going public. I never felt that Jon Voight hated Angelina, I think he was concerned about her behavior.

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The problem is that the period you’re referring to is one of the few BRIEF periods in her life that Angelina felt connected to her father. She was making an effort to give him the benefit of the doubt after years of having no or minimal contact with him. At the same time she watched her mother struggle to make ends meet because JV wasn’t sending the support checks. Angie basically started modeling to help her mother out because her father was a big cad - and verbally abusive when he was around. Verbal abuse can take many forms - calling your kid stupid, telling them they’re worthless, not pretty, etc. After years of having her father let her down when Angie made LC:TR she thought it would be a good chance to bond with her father again. And just when she thought they were doing okay he gives her an abusive letter just as she’s going off on her first humanitarian trip to Sierra Leone. What happened had nothing whatsoever to do with BBT. It was just JV being his usual ass-hole self. Angie has said in the past that in the letter he told her she wasn’t a good person and needed psychiatric help and a bunch of other shite. What kind of MAN tells his kid that as she’s boarding a plane to one of the biggest war-torn places in all of Africa?

I think what people keep forgetting is that it’s not just Angie that doesn’t want anything to do with JV. James doesn’t speak to him either. Obviously he’s a much better gage of whether or not Angie should bother with the man or not and James doesn’t speak to highly of the man.

39 alittlejen : 10/07/2007 at 10:57 pm
29 juju : 10/07/2007 at 10:45 pm
25 alittlejen : 10/07/2007 at 10:40 pm
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The question is: How many times does she have to forgive him?

Sorry, but i think she has already forgive him to many times.

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I think Jon Voight has issues, like everyone of us do. I just think for the sake of her children she should at least make one more effort.

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Alittlejen, you mean well I’m sure but not every parent deserves to have contact with their children. SOME ISSUES are bigger than other issues.

A father who has sexually abused his child doesn deserve contact with his child. A father who has sexually abused another child, doesn’t deserve contact with his own child. A father or mother who has physically abused his child does not deserve contact with his child. He or she may deserve forgiveness - just because not forgiving is more damaging on the victim then it is on the abuser. But just because the victim forgives his/her parents doesn’t mean he or she should have regular contact or indeed any contact with a sexually or physically abusive parent. Do you agree??

Like all things, the tricky part is mental/emotional abuse of a child.

Mental and emotional abuse of a child can be every bit as harmful as physical and sexual abuse of a child. If you call a child stupid, dumb, useless, hopeless, unloveable. if you throw words at your child which are totally mean and abusive, this can be just as bad as physical abuse for the child. If you “give” love one moment and are cold, dismissive, hurtful, threatening and/or abandoning the next.

I do make a distinction between mentally and emotionally abusing a child and mentally and emotionally abusing an adult. Because a child doesn’t really have any defences. A child CANNOT BE RESPONSIBLE. Unlike an adult who puts up with mental and emotional abuse, who has the power to walk away, a CHILD DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO LEAVE. An adult needs to take the responsibility of WALKING AWAY from an abusive relationship. It seems to me that that is what James, Marcheline and Angelina did when they called ENOUGH on Jon voight. That is an RESPONSIBLE MATURE THING TO DO.

If, Angelina, and perhaps James, feel that they are now ready for the next step along their journey with their father, which is to allow him LIMITED ACCESS, because he is their father, then good for them. I hope they gain more than they lose from this contact. I hope the figure out away not to let their father hurt them with his words. To have no expectations of him behaving better, because truthfully, you cannot expect someone to change, you can only change yourself and your attitudes. But if you have no expectations, if you re-enter this sort of relationship because you wish to be at peace with your “father” as he is, then OK, you wil probably emerge an even better person then you were. But you better have your boundaries in place and well taken care of by yourself and those who love you.

What is Jared talking about with Shiloh and Pax? They aren’t in the photo’s at the helicopter ride.

As far as Voight is concerned he’s a MOFO of the highest order. Highly doubt he was there to see Angelina and the kids especially since she wasn’t there. He’s such a f*cker that whatever meeting he had to go to he chose the Waldorf on purpose because that’s his psychotic style.

44 QQQQ : 10/07/2007 at 11:03 pm
39 alittlejen : 10/07/2007 at 10:57 pm - Did u read what Jamie said???? He mentally abused MB for years and he did the same to the kids. Do you think it was a coincidence the MB left it in her will that he owed her money. And what did he do, instead of letting it go, he had his people tell People mag that he doesn’t know MB is talking about, he didn’t owe any money, thus making it seem as if she is a liar.

So is Jamie gonna suffer for NOT having him in his life or does this only apply to Angie. Don’t u all find it funny that he used the front entrance. PLEASE….

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Amen, 4Q. Everybody acts like Angie’s an only child and she’s just blowing this all out of proportion. She spent her entire childhood alternating between being neglected and trotted out for big occasions like the Oscars so everyone could see JV’s cute kiddies…and then watching as her mother struggled and JV went back to ignoring them or being verbally & mentally abusive. Sometimes enough is enough.

Obviously Angie reached that point and nobody should foist their belief of a reconcilliation onto her. They don’t know what she suffered at the hands of this man, so they need to stop acting like Angie is shutting him out on a whim or over something minor. People keep saying JV deserves a second chance - well, the thing is, he’s had second, third, forth and fifth chances. Angie’s whole life has been a series of “second chances” for JV. At this point it’s probably more like a two-hundredth chance.

:lol: What is Phuleasing? Can anyone tell me :lol:

No

because J V doesn’t even know Zahara’s name. I think that tells alot about this man and his sincerity.

Jon is walking on the streets of New York, ALONE. I draw no conclusions to this. Jon runs his mouth off and I can see why Angelina has kept him away from her children.

ask fresh, she’s the one who started the phulease as in please?

#72 frenchy I Agree! IT’s inevitable

73 Jan : 10/07/2007 at 11:30 pm

Jon is walking on the streets of New York, ALONE.

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Exactly. But he went to the Waldorf for whatever reasons. He has a card and a piece of paper with a bunch of writing on it. They weren’t even there when he was there and NO WAY is Angelina leaving Shiloh and Pax with Jon Voight. He hasn’t even met any of those kids let alone those two. And he better straighten up and fly right because if he thinks Brad’s going to allow him to upset or embarrass Angelina by using his kids, he’s really insane.

36 Lady G : 10/07/2007 at 10:53 pm
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Well I never knew he said that but I trust that Angie will do the right thing. She has always said her children are her first priority. So I don’t think she’ll let her father back into her life and bond with her kids if he’s only going to treat Shiloh better than her brothers and sister. Time will tell though!

it’s multiplying, oh lordy lord.

We dont know whether JV vistied Angie or not. He could have been at the hotel for a business meeting or meet up with a friend.

Just because it’s Waldorf Astoria doesnt necessarily mean father and daughter meet.

Please look at all the justjared photos. Underneath all those pictures, jared always put the source of his photos. It seems that INF Daily are and have been taking all the JoliePitt pictures daily. They must be the group who is staking out everyday. A check at jared’s archive will tell. INF does take a lot of the JoliePitt pic in NYC.

My question is : Why didnt INF capture this picture of JV. If you look at JV photo credit, its Pacific-coast news, NOT INF.

As is INF’s daily routine, INF must be staking out the hotel, follow Brad/Angie to the helicopter pad, wait and wait until Brad/Angie came back from helicopter. That’s why INF has pic of Brad to and from the heli pad. If that is the case, this JV photo could have been taken during the Brad/Angie’s absence from the hotel.

May be someone can fill me in on this

He is an old man. of course he’s gonna forget names and ish like that.

Nancy Drew
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Yes we do know that they are at the Waldorf Astoria, unless the media has been getting it wrong for a few weeks now.

I don’t think any of the fans here would deny that Angie was a wild child when she was younger - and in fact it makes the person that she is now even more amazing. It’s the fact that JV couldn’t keep his family matters private that caused the problem. On top of everything that happened when Angie and James were growing up etc. I am sure there is plenty that we don’t even know about.

I mean look at Britney’s mom for example - even with everything going on lately she has had the good sense to say very little to the media.

Never mind that JV only seems to want Angie as long as she is the version he expects, and that he revels in the PR that being her father gets him. Just because he is old doesn’t mean he is wise.

micro - I was thinking the same thing - which is why I thought perhaps it was a note or letter from Angie in his hand, but it’s just speculation on my part of course.

73 Jan : 10/07/2007 at 11:30 pm

Jon is walking on the streets of New York, ALONE.

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I wonder where good old Schyler was? Oh wait…if the sidewalk was red…THEN she’d be on his arm…

Well this is good! I love this news! I think that she should let go of whatever she holds on her father! You only get one father! I miss mine dearly! GOD BLESS YOU all BRADGENLINA’S! :)

86 QQQQ : 10/07/2007 at 11:42 pm

78 Nancy drew : 10/07/2007 at 11:32 pm - so now its Angie’s fault.
Well maybe if his a*s was around when she was a teen ager and need him and if he had paid the money he was supposed to for support, she wouldn’t have acted out. She wouldn’t have need BBT as a father figure.

I wonder if some of u realize that the very moment he went on television with his B/S, her mom had a relapse of cancer as well as the possibility of having breast cancer. But its Angie’s fault that she cut off contact with him; because she sooo needed that sh*t when she was going thru the trauma of helping her mom recover as well as concentrating on her “new” child.

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Preach 4Q!

Isn’t it amazing how it’s always Angie’s fault when others screw up? I mean never that JV was a darn grow up and a so-called father to booth and who’s job was to be there to guide his children through life but he decided to check out and became a deadbeat parent.

And all the trolls that are championing JV must love the way he called MB a liar, in reference to him still owning money to her.

92 hi fans : 10/07/2007 at 11:50 pm

what? how do we know he’s a drunk? you know how we hate it when people make stuff up about ange and brad… not cool!
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Because he is a DRUNK. He’s admitted he had issue with alcohol and he was drunk when he did that video and couldn’t remember Zahara’s name.

94 a realist : 10/07/2007 at 11:51 pm

87 hi fans : 10/07/2007 at 11:42 pm

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hmmmm more excuses…

Now ask yourself why he never forgets Shiloh name? It’s only Maddox or Zahara name he forgets (and say anything about Pax since he has never mention him)! You can try to sugarcoat it all you want but the evidence is there for all to see.

Please I doubt that Angie would invite her father back into her life or even be friendly with him. She must have felt very liberated once she made the decision to let go of old hurts and not allow her father’s actions to continue to hurt her.

#99 is never a fan, but a hater.

100 Passing Through : 10/07/2007 at 11:58 pm - And don’t forget that Marcheline basically got out of her sickbed to issue a denial to People about JV’s statement that Angie needed psychiatric help. What a great father. Someone who shall remain nameless once accused Brad of missing a sensitivity chip. Methinks she actually meant Jon Voight.

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Her mother comes to her defense, telling PEOPLE, “There’s nothing wrong with Angelina’s mental health. Mentally and physically, she is magnificently healthy.”

I indeed do hope so.

Her mother passed away and she was in good terms with her ex husband before her unfortunate death. She might have found peace with her father, they should be left alone in this case.

98 Jill : 10/07/2007 at 11:57 pm
7 AddictedtoBAMPZs : 10/07/2007 at 10:24 pm
I am truly hoping. Having family you cannot or will not speak to is so unhealthy. I think John may have learned his lesson. If he can be truly apologetic, sincerely, it may happen. Brad will do all he can to help, for certain.
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ITA. Life is too short to continue hostilities indefinitely, and it would be nice for the children and their grandfather to get to know each other. Brad should be very helpful with this.

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I sincerely hope that Brad respect’s whatever decision Angie has made regarding her father and leaves it alone. Life is too for continued hostilities…but it’s also too short to put up with BS from people who do nothing but jerk you around and impose their will on you.

110 Passing Through : 10/08/2007 at 12:11 am - I sincerely hope that Brad respect’s whatever decision Angie has made regarding her father and leaves it alone. Life is too for continued hostilities…but it’s also too short to put up with BS from people who do nothing but jerk you around and impose their will on you.

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I hope so too.

Fathers can be incredibly blind and oblivious to the role they play in shaping their children’s lives. Even their absences can have as much of an affect as what they do when they are present. It’s easy for outsiders to judge - even other family members.

My father and I were estranged and reconciled shortly before he passed away. My aunt and uncle never even knew my side of the story until after he has passed, and when they heard it they understood a lot more of why things had happened the way they had and stopped judging me.

It doesn’t make it any less painful that so many years were lost, but at the time I was making the decision that I felt was healthiest for me. Relationships are complicated and it is just nobody’s place to judge Angie. I can’t imagine how hard it must have been for her to make that decision and stick to it with the whole world watching and judging.

If she’s still not talking to him there is a very good reason for it.

deadbeat Dad is there to be photographed.
He’s pathetic.
but…Angie knows best so if she makes up
with the deadbeat Dad…I’ll be easier on him.
but I DOUBT she wants anything to do with him
or their children.

105 Passing Through : 10/08/2007 at 12:06 am
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Maybe he was rehearsing for his lates project - The Uninvited :lol:

Who is this Schyler Shaye girl by the way?

#118, CHQT…I want to make the laughing face because of your “The Univited” line, but I don’t know how to do it, so you just have to know. I am trying the face:)

Schyler Shaye is his supposed protege and “God daughter”. Who is Amber Voight?

OK -I am soooo sorry…. But I am going to disagree with any fan who thinks JV deserves a second chance to reunite with Angie and her kids !!!!

That jerk JV, publicly on TV SHOULD apologize and beg for forgiveness just like he publicly humiliated and belittled his OWN daughter on TV.
His his ex-wife may she RIP, who raised their kids all alone, with all of her love and devotion minus his court ordered spousal suppot (which she made clear in her will) while she was batteling cancer had to watch this JERK on TV humiliating her baby girl.
NOPE no sympathy from me, but Angie is such a great person and has such a great heart, who knows maybe she will?

Yooo jerk of a father JV, how about learning your grandkids names if you really care….It might help!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNurneov0Jw

118, it was one of those interviews, Rolling Stone, or something..I definitely read that…I hope someone else can
tell you more.
Anyways, that’s true.

Boo. Failed.

:lol: :-) :lol) :-( Wahhhh.

HEY! It worked! Thanks CHQT. And wow, I didn’t even know I was making the frowning face when I did what I did. Ya learn something everyday, right?

OK, I am officially off the “Forgiveness would be nice” train, as well as the “pregnant” train. I had forgotten all the stuff with Marcheline and James.

A2B - now ya got it! ;-)

dina #1 - I heard that too. Certainly not the most tactful move. The irony in this whole situation is that because Angie doesn’t play the victim and say much about it, people mistakenly think she is just ‘being a b*tch’. Daughters don’t just stop talking to their fathers for the heck of it. Strong women never have it easy.

I don’t know these people but it seems to me that James and Angelina were deeply hurt by what happened to their mother all those years and then to loose her 10 months ago.

James revelation in his interview for the Marie Claire shows, the effect of mental abuse on his mother left a deep wound. As the man of the house so to speak, it must have been very hard to do know but be unable to do anything.

Now that is James, imagine what Angelina feels.

Bless them.

Voight was interviewed on CNN when they did a profile on Angelina in 2005 around the time of the release of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. He hinted that he didn’t believe his own daughter about not being with a married man. I was shocked by what he said. Now why should Angelina reconcile with a father who said this about her? It’s as if he believed what the tabloids wrote about his own daughter. I found his exact words from the transcript.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/10/pzn.01.html

VOIGHT: Angie had seen her mother go through that kind of pain, because of my adultery. So you would think she would stay very far way from it. And she has actually said she does. She says it. But does she?

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Girl, high five on that one. I could write a book. Sounds like a song title. Hehehehe :lol: :lol: My opinion. He needs or wants something. If he wants to reconcile, or to seem as if he wants to reconcile it is for his benefit and not hers. I don’t trust. I would say why are th paps there? But I guess they are stalking around to get pictures of Brad and Angie and the kids. Maybe he just wants to be seen coming out of the hotel. Maybe he never went in to visit. Being seen at the same hotel will give him a lot of mileage. People will talk about it. The press will run a story. Good pr. There is another person who does things for pr. Who knows what goes on in this man’s mind. I frankly think he is weird. Peace.

106 Passing Through : 10/08/2007 at 12:06 am
87 hi fans : 10/07/2007 at 11:42 pm
He is an old man. of course he’s gonna forget names and ish like that.

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He’s an effin’ actor! He memorizes LINES OF DIALOG for a freaking living…but he can’t remember his grandkids’ names? Below is a list of movies that IMDB says he’s been in since he Angie adopted Maddox. 21 MOVIES. HE MEMORIZED DIALOG FOR TWENTY-ONE MOVIES…BUT HE CAN’T REMEMBER HIS GRANDKIDS’ NAMES? Tell that that shite to someone else.

1. The Uninvited (2007/I) (pre-production) …. Bonilla
2. National Treasure: Book of Secrets (2007) (post-production) …. Patrick Gates
3. Pride and Glory (2008) (completed) …. Francis Tierney Sr
4. Bratz (2007) …. Principal Dimly
5. Transformers (2007) …. Defense Secretary John Keller
6. The Legend of Simon Conjurer (2006) …. Dr. Crazx
7. Glory Road (2006) …. Adolph Rupp
8. September Dawn (2006) …. Jacob Samuelson
9. Pope John Paul II (2005) (TV) …. Pope John Paul II/Karol Wojtyla
… aka Giovanni Paolo II (Italy)
… aka Jan Pawel II (Poland)
10. The Five People You Meet in Heaven (2004) (TV) …. Edward ‘Eddie’
11. National Treasure (2004) …. Patrick Gates
… aka Sonomo (Philippines: English title: review title)
12. SuperBabies: Baby Geniuses 2 (2004) …. Bill Biscane/Kane
13. The Manchurian Candidate (2004) …. Senator Thomas Jordan
14. The Karate Dog (2004) …. Hamilton Cage
15. Holes (2003) …. Marion ‘Mr. Sir’ Sevillo
16. Jasper, Texas (2003) (TV) …. Billy Rowles
17. Second String (2002) (TV) …. Coach Chuck Dichter
18. Ali (2001) …. Howard Cosell
19. Uprising (2001) (TV) …. Maj. Gen. Jurgen Stroop
20. Jack and the Beanstalk: The Real Story (2001) (TV) …. Siggy (Sigfried Mannheim), Overseas Div. Director for Robinson Intl.
21. Zoolander (2001) …. Larry Zoolander
… aka Zoolander (Germany)

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Thank you Passing Through. You took the words right out of my head AND added the data to support the retort.

JV may be old but I doubt there’s anything wrong with his memory - except when he is drunk or in denial.

142 oh

Anything being discussed here is public information. Where do you think we got it? From articles, etc. Angie is not going to read anything being written here. And the tabs already know it. Peace.

The tabs know it and they keep making Angie the bad person even though they know the truth. Enough of this nonsense. Let them decide what they want to do.

The less enemies Angie has, the better. Reconciling with her father does not mean he will still be abusing her. It just means he can call to say hello and stuff like that.

I don’t see it happening. One of the things that hurt Angie so much is that he criticized her adoption of Maddox and tried to throw a hammer in the works to stop it. Jon V thought she should only adopt American. Given his prejudice do you think he has a prayer of accepting the REST of her new family? And do you think Angie would for one minute allow him to single out Shiloh for attention and ignore the rest of her children?

148 guli :

I was wondering where you were. Read my post. I said if he wants to reconcile it would be for his benefit, and not Angie’s or the children. People change, Angie is proof of that. But a lot of us just saw this man recently on Bill O’Reilly’s show. Bill complimented Angie and John’s lips hardly parted to agree. He wasn’t there to praise Angie. He was there to sell his movie. Most parents would have been happy for an old sourpuss like Bill O’Rielly to be praising their child. JV didn’t respond that way. He is a user. If he was there to visit Angie she is smart. She will protect herself and her children. If he was there for pr, he got it. Peace

Well, I guess I need to chime in again for this ding dong :-)

142 oh :—All I can say is you are an idiot!!!!! Also you are a chicken!!! since you can’t use your own name but hide behind a name as ‘oh’ for a name….pathetic….for crying out loud, can’t you at least be more creative than an ‘oh’…..

guli and Jaxon - you both have very valid points. He was pretty much fading into the twilight when Angie really started to become famous and started the Tomb Raider series. He gained a lot of mileage off of the relationship.

Considering that he probably isn’t that wealthy and/or not good with his money, he is bound to have ulterior motives. It probably got his goat that he still owed MB $180,000 in support when she died, but she was given an incredible quality of life by Angie and James in her last years.

I didn’t realize that he was that much of a racist - that sickens me. He always has struck me as being one of the ‘old boys’ club’ - without all the moula of course. Well, too bad for him - times are changing and that kind of behaviour is no longer acceptable.

A2B - I already turned my laptop upside down and enlarged the screen… :lol: Couldn’t read enough to get anything concrete. Yup, curiosity killed the cat! :lol:

Both he and this Skyler chic are in The Uninvited, so it was probably some business meeting or something - looked like notes. I think I saw the word ‘Philadelphia’ and J______ Street. That’s about it. So much for my sleuthing.

dina #1 - I’ve been having the same problems. Keep having to hit refresh. Blah! :lol:

154 tino tonatini : 10/08/2007 at 1:40 am

Angie looks so happy!

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Of course Angie is happy she is out with her family. See the below link to see pictures of their outing.

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2007/10/07/brad-angelina-helicopter/comment-page-5/#comments

159 COALHARBOURQT

But that doesn’t work either. Plus after hitting refresh the number of comments will say 154 and if you click show all it will say 144. Then it might show something else. Jared there are trolls on your web page ******** everything up. Please fix when you have time. Going to bed folks. Some good conversations. Peace

160 dina #1 : 10/08/2007 at 1:54 am
He’s another coattail rider. He really looks dishelved doesn’t he. He doesn’t look well kempt does he? When you don’t look well you usually want something. JMHO. Peace

I think just the opposite and I was just thinking how well he looked. He has that “monied” understated look. You can tell by the way he is dressed and his shined shoes that he has class and money.

I wonder if Angie wear Nicole kidman’s cloth what she will look like I love all Nk is outfit….

Life is wa-a-ay too short not to try to patch things up with one’s children. Angelina’s not letting Jon Voight see his grandchildren is one thing I’ve always felt was out-of-sync with the rest of her example for world peace. I hope this works for both of them!

Besides, he really is their grandfather, no doubt–look at the dimple in his chin (just like Shi’s) and they way he points his finger at the paps (just like Shakira–I mean, Zahara–just kidding.)

A2B—Hiya and goodnight :-)
See the FFers are just waking up, it is almost 8:00am their time, so let those one or maybe two idiots go for it with their hatred and stupidity for awhile then they have to go to work. Then they kick in while the boss ain’t watching which is around 9 to 10 am our EST time in USA….
But they’ll go full steam when they are home which is about 1 pm. USA time …. Yup!!! I have been around too long, I know them too well. I am trying to convince AG and PT to write a book titled ‘A Day in a Trolls Life’ and I assure you it will be a best seller and all the proceeds will go to JP Foundation :-)

169 Vee —I pity you!!! have a wonderful day and remamber JV hurt them bad and left his family. HE has to be MAN enough to apologize in public and ask for forgiveness. Angie or James owe that idot NOTHING….nothing at all…………

Ladies and gents of BAMPZSville goodnight :-)

It’s okay, Guli–but I sure do feel better now after reading your latest post!

sorry not retreat..the word eagle

Vee— I am so very sorry, I feel awful. Thank you for being so kind and forgiving….I read all those awful negative posts and didn’t realize you were poking fun at them. Ohhhh, OK Ill go in to hiding for a while :-) Or, I’ll owe you a favor.. Heck I am good at that ask ariel and cook “lol”

I hope not, he only started been all out there talking about Angelina and how he wanted to meet his grandkids (Shakira, is what he called Sahara ..LOL) but only after they had Shiloh.

She had two kids before that … where was he?

Thanks, Guli–that was very sweet! No more to worry!

I really worry about what he really wants from Angie. I hope Brad pays close attention to this man nad does not let him bring unhappiness to his family. I think in this situation Angie needs his strength and good judgement. Children are always vulnerable when it comes to their parents. Whether those parents are good or bad. He has not proven himself to be a very good father. Angie and Brad BEWARE

RUN JON RUN
Don’t let that crazy soul sucking ***** back into your life. You’re much better off.

i hope angie is preggers. i LOVE her…..she is beautiful inside & out…..she is my angel

I don’t think Brad and Angie are staying at Waldorf Astoria Hotel itself but at Waldorf Towers where they can lease apartments to suit their needs as a family.

Jon Voight may very well be staying at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel but not meet with Angie as it is seperate from where they live.

Credit: Sunmy (JJB)

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New pictures Brad, Angie, Mad & Pax:

Credit: Sunmy (JJB)

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This is what I would like to ask:

IF Angie decides to give another chance and have her own father back in her life, what will yo do? Stop her? Hate her?

It is her own father, it is her own life. If she likes, needs, loves to get back together with her own father, it’s her own decision which has to be respected by everyone of us.

If she prefers to stay away from him, it’s still up to her.

186 FYI : 10/08/2007 at 6:45 am
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Thanks for letting me know!

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190 Saraicita : 10/08/2007 at 7:20 am
New pictures Brad, Angie, Mad & Pax:
Credit: Sunmy (JJB)

http://i22.tinypic.com/5meqa.jpg
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Is that the child development Doctor that Angie takes the kids to?

I also think this is a really pretty shot of AJ. She looks younger here.

190 Saraicita : 10/08/2007 at 7:20 am
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Thank you soooooo much for the pictures!!! They look so good!! The place they are at seems really crowded.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movieawards/femalestar.html

CAST YOUR VOTE FOR ANGIE.

Whatever Angelina’s decision I still respect her with all my heart.
That’s is my only wish nothing else. As much as possible I do not welcome hate in my life, I replace it with understanding and love.

Bye.

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she looks so beautiful in this pic.

98 Jill : 10/07/2007 at 11:57 pm
7 AddictedtoBAMPZs : 10/07/2007 at 10:24 pm
I am truly hoping. Having family you cannot or will not speak to is so unhealthy. I think John may have learned his lesson. If he can be truly apologetic, sincerely, it may happen. Brad will do all he can to help, for certain.
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ITA. Life is too short to continue hostilities indefinitely, and it would be nice for the children and their grandfather to get to know each other. Brad should be very helpful with this.

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Speaking from personal experience I don’t think it is unhealthy. If you have made peace with the situation and have forgiven you can live your life in a helathy way without that person in your life. I think people confuse forgiving with letting someone into your life. Just because you have forgiven doesn’t mean that it is healthy for that person to be a part of your life. Like James she may have made peace with it and wishes him well, that is healthy.

“Great,” said Pitt as he exited the theater with his wife and their five children, one of whom enjoyed the show so much that he laughed and jumped up and down in his seat during the 80-minute performance.
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his wife? five children?

simply brad has a adorable pic of Brad and Shiloh, (taken the same day as museum vist) Shiloh is on Brad cellphone. It is so cute

211 alittlejen : 10/08/2007 at 9:03 am
simply brad has a adorable pic of Brad and Shiloh, (taken the same day as museum vist) Shiloh is on Brad cellphone. It is so cute
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#213, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh how cuTTTTTTTTTTTTe is that? Adorable!

195 Mediterranean : 10/08/2007 at 7:34 am
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Whatever decision she makes I will respect it but it doesn’t mean that I have to agree with it. Part of liking someone doesn’t mean automatically agreeing with all of their choices. Whatever her decision I wish her well.

ANGIE, MUST RESIST!!!!!!!!!!!!JOHN VOIGHT IS A NUT, NUT, NUT!!!!!!!

briseis

Hello. I’m doing alright, thanx for asking sweetie!

I’m just too excited for these pics you know, was at jjb and am loving it there. Maybe will join.

Someone wrote this @jjb ‘Brad loves her ass, doesn’t he?’ I’m sure his tatoo is right there. It just made me more excited ypu know!

Sorry briseis, today you wont understand what am saying. Am too excited, just like i was for the Cannes pics!

Good day there in your windy city!!!!!

BLAH,BLAH,BLAH!

216 briseis : 10/08/2007 at 9:19 am

I have a niece and she always does it: she takes my cellphone or anyone that she finds and she says: hello, always she does the same thing. Since she is 2 years old, I was afraid of that she was leaving it to fall down and the telephone was damaged, so I bought one exclusively for her. Only I wait the day in which my baby is born to see

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I see that this sighting has been blown out of proportion, much like Jane Pitt and her visit to ___.

I do have confidence in Angelina that she will do what is best for herself and her children; however, I have no confidence in JV. IMO, he’s a bully/crybaby. If he doesn’t get the kind of access he thinks he’s entitled to, you can best believe that we will hear about it and not through the most objective channels, either (Ted C., tabloids, conservative outlets, entertainment shows, etc.)

I agree with another poster who said that it’s redundant to call upon Brad to offer his support. People seem to call upon his Midwest background if only as a potential weapon to use against Angelina (his former marriage, staying in one place versus traveling abroad, reconciling with family, etc.) Brad is a good man and I suspect, an even better father, so you can bet that if Angelina or his children, especially his daughters, since JV seems to differentiate between Z and Shi, are compromised, JV will be out of there, possibly permanently.

So if JV is hoping to use Brad’s background or the children’s youth and inexperience as an ‘in’, he may have to think twice. If Angelina’s compliments toward Brad are even 50% true, JV will have to step up his efforts in order to be considered in the lowest percentile. And these kids are growing up to be very sharp, perceptive and sensitive, which could ultimately serve as another line of defense. If they detect a change in their mother as a result of contact with JV, and they ask questions and demonstrate a level of protectiveness towards Angelina and detachment from JV, again, JV will probably be out of there, permanently.

Angelina has a lot of support, whether it’s James, Brad or close friends. JV has to bring something to the table, besides sniveling, whining, loose lips, and vindictiveness.

why do u always call Zahara, Shakira?

Yes, it’s time for Angelina Jolie to heal (whatever the wounds) are with her father so those children can enjoy a wonderful experience with him! Nobody knows how long they might reside in the physical world!

Shiloh looks so much like her grandfather!

That’d be good for both of them if they did make up. About the pregnancy issue, I don’t think they should have another child right now. Maybe next year?

233 Kira : 10/08/2007 at 1:09 pm
Yes, it’s time for Angelina Jolie to heal (whatever the wounds) are with her father so those children can enjoy a wonderful experience with him! Nobody knows how long they might reside in the physical world!

Shiloh looks so much like her grandfather!

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This is probably gonna be the last post on the thread as there is a new thread. But I can’t resist posting this:

What if her father had sexually abused her??

What if her father had physically abused her?

What level of mental and emotional abuse is required for a mother to say that contact between grandfather and grandchild would not be healthy if in the mother’s view, the grandfather hasn’t changed??

Should her children enjoy the “wonderful” experience of a grandfather like that?

We don’t know what went on in the Bertrand household. We know that JV was absent. We know that he didn’t make all the payments he should have made to his wife. We know that James haven says outright his father was mentally and emotionally abusive to his children and his wife. WE know that as a teenager, Angelina suffered enough anguish and pain to need to cut herself. We know that healthy, happy teenagers don’t cut themselves.

Nothing which has been made public to the world about the Bertrand household would suggest that Jon Voight would necessarily make anyone a wonderful grandfather.

That girl looks more like his daughter rather than a goddaughter

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