Zanessa’s Starbucks Java Fix

239 Karen : 11/02/2007 at 2:29 am
Wedding Peach, do you want to take me to task? Especially after I did say in my post that I may be using a microscope? It struck me as “strange”. I’m more than sure that Mama G raised a good girl but this young woman obviously is old enough to be intimate with this young man and has been known to at least stay over at this place at times. Her mother has picked her up in the morning from Zac’s. She has travelled the globe with this young man. Why can you accept that but not invision them possibly living together. Do you think Mama G can also handle her daughter staying with Zac for a night or two and travel with him to Australia but be opposed to them living together? It seem to me that Mama G as well as Papa G and Papa D and Mama S has pretty much accepted this situation probably because they have little say in it.

You do not have a clue as to how “old”-fashioned I am nor my religious believes but believe me I’m not naive nor do I put my hands over my eyes when I don’t want to see something. I’ve been around for a long time and one thing I understand is human nature and I know how love and passion operate—and these two have those things in spades. They also seem quite serious and responsible.

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I agree with you karen. My parents are the most conservative people in the planet. They’re the epitone (sp?) of filipino values and catholism. But living here in the states, they know that no matter how much they’d like to try to instill those same values in my head and my siblings heads…they know they can’t stop me or my sister from getting intimate w/ our boyfriends before marriage or w/ the living together arrangement. It happened with my younger sister. And instead of disowning her like what my mom’s parents almost did with her, they’re trying to be supportive. The disappointment is still there, but at least they’re still there for us.

And really…I don’t get why people think these two are too young to live together. Are you guys seriously not looking around you? Hawaii is surrounded by asian communities, and I can tell you…I’m in my middle 20s and out of all my friends I’m the only one that doesn’t have 2-3 kids, married or living w/ their boyfriends. 18 and 19 isn’t that young. In the philippines, students actually graduate out of high school at the age of 16. (it’s because we don’t have middle school) So, by the time they’re 20, most of them are graduating college…and this is only if you actually have money to go college. The rest are already married or getting together w/ someone. And looking at Gina’s family w/ 11 siblings. Well…I don’t think she’d be shock if Zac and Van ever decide to live together soon.

Well…that’s my take on this.

living together is such a big step… waaay major. it’s just like getting married, without the legalities. i don’t see anything wrong with 2 people in love living together but i don’t think its a good idea to live together at this point in their lives. there’s a lot involved with this set up already..

I doubt that we would ever see Zac leaving the Hudgens’ home in the morning, though, because he does have his own place. He really would have no reason to stay there and having his own place gives them much needed privacy. Zac was raised very strictly and has even said it was hard for him to have friends come by his apartment so I don’t think he would ever consider going to the Hudgens’ to be “with” V there.

I think it was this past weekend that one of Zac’s neighbor’s insisted that they live together. I don’t really think they are together all the time(every night) as they may not be ready for that. They have taken their relationship rather slowly and I think they are still becoming used to each other in this way now which is probably a very smart move. It’s one of those too much too soon…well, I don’t think that would be a good thing.

living together is such a big step… waaay major. it’s just like getting married, without the legalities. i don’t see anything wrong with 2 people in love living together but i don’t think its a good idea to live together at this point in their lives. there’s a lot involved with this set up already.. and no matter how much guidance they can get from their parents, they’re just way too young to live together.

zac said in his rolling stone interview that commitment is such a big word for him right now.. and living together does take a lot of that. they should just enjoy being together and take it slowly..

I agree that they are too young, wI asn’t saying that they should go for it above. :-)

Maybe what I should have said is, NONE of us know just where they are in their relationship. They certainly don’t tell anyone. We only know what we can observe from pictures.

I have friends who have been living together since before high school graduation (by the way, that was 20 year ago. LOL) They are still going strong. So, even thought Z & V are very young, they aren’t going to do anything they aren’t ready for. Fear not!

ck, it has been slow and it has been…not so slow. It has been steady pace though and some hassles which I am in no mood for. But 8AM will be here at some point and then I have 2 other jobs to do, believe it or not. Since it is Friday I also have to get my paycheck and pay all the bill collectors standing in line—hey you guys, take a number! Then I will go home, sleep a few hours and come right back her to work tonight at 10PM. BUT good news, I have thie weekend off—that is if the person I trained earlier tonight is willing to work this weekend. She says she is so we shall see.

Ok, seriously, SMILE GUYS!!!
I’m tierd of see them like that. I hope that’s not ’cause of them, I hope it’s ’cause of the paps… so annoying!

Another thing about the ring situation. Vanessa had her’s on gwhen they were doing their Halloween shopping(Wednesday) but not on Thursday so it would mean if she took it to a jeweler it would be at that time. Perhaps they went and got Zac’s ring and necklace(since both ring and necklace were missing at the same time) and then dropped Vanessa’s ring off at that time.

Wedding Peach–chill? I think I made it clear from the beginning that my observation was speculation. And you don’t know if Jared meant that Vanessa was dropped off at her house where her Mother, Father, little sister, and dog live any more than you know if Jared meant Zac dropped her off at the apartment where she lives with him. Do I think she actually live there fulltime? No, I don’t but this past weekend one of Zac’s neighbor’s insists that she does. I still don’t think so.

Also, if Vanessa decides to live with Zac there will be none of this stuff of her parents won’t let her do it. Would she maybe not do it if her parents were against it to try to please them? That’s a possiblility but if she made the decison to do it regardless of what her parents’ ideas were then they could not keep her from doing it since she, like Troy said earlier, is of leagal age.

Living in sin? According to my Bible having sex outside of marriage already constitutes a sin. However, as I said originally, I understand human nature as does God—better than we—and they, as anyone else, will have to make their own determintation on that situation. My parents would have disowned me if they knew I lived with a guy before marriage and I was 30 when I got married! I am not Catholic but had a very strict relilgious upbringing.

I am not here to judge these two. But it would seem they are very much in love and they are young with young ideas. I’m sure their parents understand the place they are in and know what they need is love and support.

zanessa is love

What spell does vanessa cast on me. I’m totally

crazy over her.

THANKS JARED FOR THE PICS!!!!!

HOPE 2 SEE MORE VANESSA PICS.

omg zac efron ilove you sooooooooooooooooooooooo much
vanessa sory i hate you soooooooooooooooooooooo much sory zac
sory vanessa fans i support zashley

zachley ???? ^^ they are good friends :D
ZANESSA for ever lol!!!