OlderNicole Kidman: I Was Less Relevant Being Married to Tom Cruise
Nicole Kidman (in Jil Sander) attends a special screening of Margot at the Wedding presented by The Cinema Society at NYC’s Tribeca Grand Hotel on Thursday. The 40-year-old actress joined costar Jennifer Jason Leigh and Leigh’s real-life spouse, Noah Baumbach, who wrote and directed the film.
USA Today just published a great interview with Nicole. Here are some great snippets:
On not being relevant while married to Tom Cruise: “Tom and I, we moved and moved and moved. Your sense of where do I come from becomes less and less relevant. A lot of my life, particularly when I was working so much, it was about trying to fill in the gaps. Now there’s much more reason to exist in the world without my identity needing to be through work.”
On what’s next: “I’m going to Germany to do a film called The Reader for six weeks. Naomi Watts, my girlfriend, is going to be shooting in Berlin. She just had a little baby. She’s doing a film with Clive Owen there. I don’t know Germany at all. I’ve been to the Berlin film festival, and that’s it.”
On globe-trotting and if it ever gets to her: “I get sick of being away from my family. The actual traveling, I enjoy. I manage a pretty good life in terms of ducking and weaving and having protection. I’m not someone who seeks out paparazzi photos. I prefer to be left alone. Most of the time, I work out ways to navigate the cities, but I get recognized pretty much all about the world, which is a weird feeling sometimes. Not in a bad way. People, in general, are just lovely. They just say, hey, they do a double-take, that’s the general thing.”
On how she maintains her flawless skin: “I wore a lot of sunscreen. I never go in the sun. I’ve had one skin cancer on my leg, and I rarely get in the sun, so that just shows you. They cut it out. Stay out of the sun, because it is the worst thing in terms of aging. I’m very medical. I come from a medical family.” (Her father is a clinical psychologist, and her mother is a nurse educator.)
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Wonder where the kids are?
She is sooooooo beautiful omg. I cant beleive she had skin cancer on her leg! I LOVE HERR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She’s scary looking.
I’m sorry to tell you Nicole that your white-as-a-ghost skin is not flattering to many of us. I have a hard time understanding those people who call Nicole Kidman beautiful! Besides her physical features look like she’s still stuck in the Victorian age, that’s why she gets many roles in this era, bcoz she looks like the ppl back then.
i like her. she’s cool. i love keith too! they are good together i think.
Nicole I’m so happy u escape the teeny tiny gay gnome..tommie.
Now Katie the robot is going through the farce..complete with a face do all over= plastic surgery..2 more years, possibly 3..and the robot might wake up.
Nicole can actually ACT!!
I’ve never heard anyone describe themselves as “medical”.
I’m very medical?
lol shes very MEDICAL AKA BOTOX QUEEN! JUST ADMIT IT ITS NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL!!! SHEESH. HER HAIRS TOO WHITE ON TOP!?!?
Tom made her, she should send him royalties.
ewwwww i cant believe keith urban married you your as white as snow i sooo cant believe your famous everybody if shes famous i can be famous lol sorry to say your WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why does she start talking now?
KA KA YOU SO UGLY GIRL ARE YOUR PARENTS GHOST??? WELL IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE SO WHITE JUST DONT WEAR THAT DARK OF LIP GLOSS THATS KA KA OH Y DID KEITH URBAN MARY YOU YOUR HIDEOUS EWWWWWWWWWW KA KA LET ME GAG MY SELF!!!!
OMG SHES IS HIDEOUS LIKE JADEN AND JENICA SAID THOSE GIRLS ARE RIGHT HER AND KEITH ARE HIDEOUS DID SHE ESCAPE FROM THE DEAD???
She’s extremely weird. Naomi should keep her baby away from Granny Freeze, she has a way of sucking the life out of everything she touches and she’s surely jealous of Naomi living a normal, happy life instead of pretending. Yeah, sure, she likes to be left alone but somehow paps are always present whenever she airs her husband for a happy family picture.
IF KEITH AND NICOLE HAVE KIDS IM SURE THEY WILL BE AS WHITE AS THE CLOUDS ABOVE SHE IS UGH AND I DONT KNOW HOW PEOPLE CAN STAND HER EW BLUHH
TRUE DAT MINX LOL SHE IS OUTTA DIS WORLD SHE BELONGS ON THE WHITE ASS PLANET
WHO THE HELL IS NAOMI
She seems like a well-rounded person. Surely, she must be looking at Katie and thinking better you than me.
DONT WEAR RED LIP GLOSS IM A BOY I KNOW WUT THEY LIKE
ewwww nicole kidman fan how can you like her i dony get it she is ugggllllyyyy
Nicole has always said she stays out of the sun because she burns. Yes she has a very pale skin tone like many redheads…but you shallow people would rather she get more skin cancers than to remain healthy and white. I like her. She is a great actress, has a great work ethic. And for the person who wants to know where her kids are–why don’t you ask the same of Tommy boy who has physical custody right now? She said in another interivew they both came out to Australia several times this summer to visit with her. She doesn’t pimp them out like Mr. Cruise does.
she is not perfect she can still go to a tanning bed your right keith urban could do better idc how many ppl tri to change my mind noooooo!!!! it is soo not working ewww how can you even like a white ***** she is horrible in acctressing i can do better she probably kissed a thousand guys and has a diease in her mouth from kissing all them other ******* and i’ve seen red heads and there not that white so so stop talking out your ass shes hidious
i’ve seen pictures of her and keith and she looks like she’s gonna kill him so beware keith
I love Nicole. She looks absolutely beautiful.
“I get sick of being away from my family.” So that’s why she’s going to Germany for 6 weeks after filming Australia since April? Got it. So glad she’s excited that Naomi will be there. What about her husband and kids?
“Now there’s much more reason to exist in the world without my identity needing to be through work.” That must be why she has 5 more movies lined up to shoot.
OK….she said I’m very medical…..WTF…she sounds like an idiot.
i like her, especially after she “escaped”, but when did her lips get so plump? hmmmmm
she ws as white a few yers ago and everyybody as in awe of her, how she dressed, her hair, etc. I thimk that except for the somethings that she has made to her face, she looks the same. I loved Cold Mountain, the Other, and many more movies.
I wish her well, I like her better now, she must have loved Tom, but now she is more her own person
I FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE TWO KIDS.
LESS RELEVANT OR A STEPFORD WIFE???
i think she is pretty but she needs to stop talking about tom cruise..it almost looks as if she is still hung up on him
I love Nicole Kidman, but I do agree w/ #31 — she MUST stop talking about Tom Cruise, REALLY!!!
OK, #14, you need to get a life!!
she’s still pining for her Tommy. Didnt she said on that Ladies Journal that she still loves Tom.
Im sorry but I never liked her and I only saw 1 or 2 movies of her that I liked.
I admire nicole kidman, I think she’s remained true to herself all these years. Surgery or not, I admire her for bucking the trend of too tan actresses, hello every single starlet out there worth her borrowed chanel. She’s never confirmed nor denied plastic surgery so I won’t bother getting bothered by it. I’m all for it AND staying out of the sun. SERIOUSLY, it’s so bad for you! Love ya nicole, you’re a living legend. Nevermind the haterade.
Ahhh gawd now she is adding cancer surviver to her poor me, I’m a victim schitck. She just got done saying she was touring some with Keith and setting up her farm LMAO…These people are such liars, they really don’t care that they spew lies and we catch it.
Is there such a thing as botox brains, surely it’s frying her uneducated butt.
why does she always mention tom in almost every interview, it seems she keep using her previous relationship to promote her new films. she has two children, and she never seems to mention them with any conviction for them. whatever you say about tom, i always get the impression his children come first!
school must have let out and the idiot, uneducated teens are on the board, repeating all over with their stupid name changes.
Please, we get it — you haven’t seen a redhead before in your short lives. Now run along and play your video games, okay?
Those worried about all her working obviously have no clue about either real life, or movies. Working mothers are away from their kids all the time, five days a week. She makes movies a few weeks at a time, with plenty of time off in between. Six weeks for one movie, folks. Then it’s months off at a time.
When she says she misses her family, it’s her mom and dad and sister in Australia she means. Kids and husband come with her, just like Tom and Katie, and other movie stars. People think that Angie and Brad are the only ones who travel for their job, or that they are the only ones taking their kids with them. They ALL do. See how she said she was moving all the time with Tom and the kids?
She is not ALWAYS mentioning Tom, unless you are only learned to read about two years ago. She never mentioned him during her relationship except for the obvious “we” type of things, for “we are going to England to shoot a movie” kind of thing, or for the last few years after the divorce. Now, when asked, she will answer, but does not bring it up.
Also, she was married for ten years and had two kids — that’s a big chunk of life and impossible to ignore.
The larger picture at the top of this page reminds me of Tom Cruise! That’s weird! When my girlfriends moan on to me about being single and is it because of the way they look etc etc, I always bring up Nicole Kidman. You can look like a film star and still all you can get is a drug addict. So, celebrate your single status.
The one stuuuuupid troll poster who keeps changing its name but write in CAPS and in the same style and agreeing with itself…………..just who do you think youre foolin, beyotch? bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha
you must be one dumb teen. a D-student, huh? and have the nerve to come on a blog and criticize your betters. go learn to read and write properly!
She is STILL talking about Tom? Six years later????
Jesus, Nicole. Get over it!!!!
Damn! it’s hard to believe some people are so f@cking stupid!
Whatever direction Nicole’s life is going in, it looks GOOD on
her.
HERE WE GO AGAIN. EX- EX WIFES PLAYING THE VICTIM ROLE. NICOLE AND JENNIFER ANISTON ARE A PERFECT EXAMPLE WHY MEN ARE AFRAID TO GET MARRIED.
IF THESE WOMEN THINK THAT A MAN IS GOING TO MAKE YOU RELEVANT BECAUSE YOU MARRIED HIM THEN THAT WHY THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.
A WOMAN, A WELL MATURE WOMAN MARRIED BECAUSE SHE LOVES HER HUSBAND NOT TO HAVE HER HUSBAND MAKE HER RELEVANT.
SEEMS TO ME LIKE THESE TWO PARTICULAR WOMEN HAVE MAJOR MAJOR ISSUES WITH THEIR SELF.
AND ANOTHER THING ANY TIME THEIR EX HUSBANDS HAVE SOMETHING SUCH AS A MOVIE THERE THEY ARE OPENING THEIR PIE HOLE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST.
HOW MANY YEARS NOW SINCE NICOLE AND TOM DIVORCE? NOW SHE THINKS SHE CAN SAY ANYTHING. THESE TWO CANT LIVE WITHOUT THEIR EX AND CANT STOP RIDING THEIR COAT-TAIL.
I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF THESE TWO BASHING THEIR EX-HUSBAND ANY CHANCE THEY GET.
IF HILLARY CANT PLAY THE VICTIM / I AM A WOMAN ROLE NO FREAKING NONE FERTILE ACTRESS IS ALO ALLOW TO PLAY THE “I AM A VICTIM WHEN I WAS MARRIED ROLE’
BULLSHIT THE MEDIA SHOULD CALL THESE TWO FREAKS WHAT THEY REALLY ARE.
Pchhh. I’m sorry Nicole, but can you please be more vague? Sheesh woman, what are you so scared of? Did Tom make you sign a non-disclosure at the divorce? Cause it sure looks like it. Damn. I really hate when people don’t speak their truth and insult other people’s intelligence - do you think we’re all really that stupid, Ms. Kidman? Kid us not!
Nicole went on and on in this interview about Keith Urban, but jared only chose to focus on one very small mention of tom. I KNEW that would happen when I read the interview. I said to myself watch and see don’t the whole focus of this interview in the press be about Tom. She probably was asked about tom and politely answered, but we’ll never know that.
i like her. her being white as a ghost doesn’t really bother me. she’s still gorgeous. and she’s a great actress. totally not overrated.
She looks great!
classic beauty!
I can’t wait to see the movie!!!!!
Dumbarses…
She was making a point about her cultural background becoming irrelevant…
She meant that when she and Tom were married they travelled to countries to which she had no cultural affiliation so she lost her cultural identity…
Sorry, did you guys fail your communication courses at college?
How can you take anyone who’s been married to gay Tom seriously? Girl is full of lies, she needs to come out and say it like it is. BUt she would probably be shot dead by crazy scientology folk.
the snippets started out okay….i was going with it…liking her a bit….AND THEN….she just talked until she started sticking her foot into her mouth…”i’m very medical”? wtf is that? maybe she should have continued on with “i’m a very medical….experiment…” that would have made more sense.
I love her! She’s such an amazing actress and a person. And still stunning.
I think she looks great. I do not think there is anything wrong with her being white. That is her skin colour. If she stays out of the sun due to her skin then why is that a problem?? Should she look orange like some celebs with that ugly tanner?? I think she looks good the way she is. Why bash that>???
Poor poor poor Nicole you are still soooo in love with Tom !!!
#14 I wonder just how happy Namomi is considering she and her baby’s daddy don’t seem to have any desire to marry each other. But, I do hope they are happy…
YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE WHY KEITH CHEATED ON THIS CRAZY *****! SHE HAS NOOO RESPECT FOR HER HUBBY. DID SHE MARRY HIM OUT OF CONVENIENCE? EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND SHE’S ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT HER LIFE WITH ******* TOM CRUISE! SHE CARRIES ON ABOUT TOM AS IF SHE WISH SHE WAS STILL MARRIED TO HIM. I WILL NOT BE SURPRISED IF KEITH DUMP HER BOTOX RIDDLED ASS, SHE MAKES ME SICK.
#22 Katie Holmes is the one with the mouth sores NOT Nicole. All actors and actresses kiss a lot of people since that’s a part of movie making. Guess you have never watched a day time soap opera.
I saw her in dead clam I thought she was REALY good , this was way before she hooked up with the midget….She is not hooked up on TOmmy..she thinks spilling the beans which she signed a contract not to do,w ill bring her children back…there is a scientology attempt at disconnecting her from her kids, I am suprised she has been able to hang on for this long…if she was any ordinary person without media power, they would have already taken her kids…
She means all her family in australia, her sister, her parents and neices and nephews adn Noami who is a good firend also from australia….it was a great homecoming for her after the midget and the scientologist, thats why she makes time for her family in australia.see how Katie holmes is forgetting all her friends and family, thats waht heppened to kidman, till she finally foundher way back..its was relief
I think she is beautiful..Look at those beautifully shaped legs..just perfect….If you get skin cancer on your legs why chance it and go out baking..it will be sheer stupidity..but of course the sceintologist wish she will commit suicide like their other victims they harass to deatht…
You new ***** homs cant hold a candle to this one…get a life and free you m ind…pathetic that you let an uneducated 4ft midget control your brain.ahhahah
She is absoloutely stunning,and i dont care if she is using injections against wrinkles.Big deal,its her prerogative,she is a talented and beautiful woman.But my god Nicole please tell it like it is,own it.I resent the fact that she thinks we are idiots who think she is just staying away from sun to have a flawless skin like that.
Oh and this site is getting worse and worse,godness how old are you people?Just trools and kids……………………….
oh my goodness, the scientologists are irate and trying too hard to paint nicole in a bad light ahahhahahha PATHETIC MINDLESS SOULS controlled by a mad drugged out psycho..
If the media asks you a question, you answer, they asked her about TOm , she answered..she has alwyas been pretty good with the media and quite candid…She may not like the paps, but they adore her because she is always sweet to them…she is an Aussie and if you know that that means you will have a better understanding of these wonderful folks from down under
Scientologist shoudl pay attenttion to brainwipping thier ugly katie old looking holmes, who tommy boy is despertaly trying to make into a nicole lookalike..
Miapocca,
you made me laugh so hard with your typo of “dead clam” vs “dead calm”. i’m not laughing at you at all….that’s just really funny.
i admire how you are hell bent on showing the cruise freaks for what they are. scientology is a very scary cult. it should be made illegal.
i, personally, like nicole kidman. i think she’s a pretty good actress. i’m glad she’s proved herself since parting ways with xenu! i am a little weirded out by her being married to keith (just seems like an odd pair). she shouldn’t lie about being “all natural” though…”botox much? please!
p.s. i have officially decided that suri looks like damien thorne from the Omen….coincidence? i think not! LOL
And I am so faking…..
And I got everything… fame, money….. HaHaHa, screw you Tom….
i think shes SEXY and again F.U.C.K you nicole kidman haters ! and MANDY, i like nicole because she is beatiful ! i was a fan of her for 3 years when i was 9 years old ! (now 12) and i will not never ever hate her and dont tell she is ugly . say i dont like her,its so easy to say ! and every body has his own taste!
I always like Nicole. She one of the most classy actresses in Hollywood! She was beautiful when she was with Tom then, and she is even more beautiful now that she is with Keith.
Miapocca is a loser and so is Nicole.
Get a life please.
beautiful, as always!
Tom MADE Nicole and the kids continuiously move so her family could not find her. He is now doing the same thing to Katie.
get your facts Dean. Katie’s parents hang out with Tom and was even at his Lions screening. Include Katie’s sisters and brother that are close to him. I like Nicole and Katie.Both are different but classy women. Dean and Miapocca I would respect you both if you didnt trash anyone but your constant obsession and hatred for Tom and Katie is so downright creepy. Judging them Im sure God or some heavenly being will be 10 times judging you harshly or other people will do the same to you too.
You are above them as persons if you dont stoop low in this bashing thing.But that didnt happen.
Why is it women always pick each other’s looks apart. None of us are perfect. I understand kidding and being facetious, but why pick Nicole’s looks apart. I don’t care if she is polka dot, she is a very very good actress and I enjoy her movies. I never thought much of Sissy Spacek’s looks, but she was an awesome actress. Nicole has “Streep” potential-But no matter what, criticizing her does not make you or anyone else smarter, wiser, or more beautiful-
I think Nicole is a very attractive. She seems to be fun and very loving. She is the type that will be successful in whatever she chooses to do.
Katies parents ar NOT at ANY of tommys events.
The Tommy PR machine says they are there but where are the pictures?
Why is it that we ALWAYS see Katie out shopping ALONE?
Why is it that her mother and sister are NEVER with her?
In the past year we have only seen Katie with her parents ONE TIME. And that was at the airport in Berlin. Where Katie was not allowed to let Suri out of her arms to ket the grandparents hold her.
Tom treated Nicole parents the same way. He TRIED to do it to Penny Cruz but she was too strong minded to fall for toms carp cult.
I agree, Nicole and Katie look very stylish-Some women just like to dress up all the time, I know an 80 year old who would not get mail out of the mailbox without full make up on!
42 paula : 11/09/2007 at 5:15 am
She is STILL talking about Tom? Six years later????
Jesus, Nicole. Get over it!!!!
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Geez, YOU CAN NEVER- EVER-GET OVER AN ALIEN>(TOM)
I BET SHE WOULD DUMP THE COUNTRY GUY IF TOM WANTED HER BACK. SHE STILL LOVES TOM. SHE IS A WEIRDO!
I THINK THE KIDS ARE IN A SCIENTOLOGY BOARDING SCHOOL AWAY FROM BOTH PARENTS. SO SAD!
She is incredible.
Nicole is wonderful.
WHY IS IT THAT WHEN SHE DOES AN INTERVIEW SHE ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT TOM. HE SHOUD BE RECIEVING SOME KIND OF CHECK. WHY CAN’T THE
B I T C H JUST SAY NO COMMENT.
Jared you’re headline totally misquotes her. She isn’t saying she was less relevant while married to him, she’s saying her background and where she came from became less relevant and unfamiliar because of all the hustle and bustle around her. You’re making her sound like she said she thought people didn’t care as much about her when she was with Tom Cruise which makes her sound like she cares about having the spotlight on her, and she states the exact OPPOSITE of that a few questions later.
Jared your headline totally misquotes her. She isn’t saying she was less relevant while married to him, she’s saying her background and where she came from became less relevant and unfamiliar because of all the hustle and bustle around her. You’re making her sound like she said she thought people didn’t care as much about her when she was with Tom Cruise which makes her sound like she cares about having the spotlight on her, and she states the exact OPPOSITE of that a few questions later.
To all of you who are making fun of Nicole being light-skinned, I just want you to know that not everybody can get a dark tan. i am a natural blond and my skin is very pale. Frankly, I don’t want to look like a sun-dried raisin!
Funny, I didn’t think Nicole was talking about Tom at all. I thought she was talking about herself. SHE traveled (during her years spent with Tom), SHE felt less relevant (during her years spent with Tom) and SHE had an ectopic pregnancy (during her years spent with Tom) Where someone can twist this around and start ranting that she should get over him is totally ridiculous. Perhaps it is you that should “get over” the infatuation with Tom Cruise. I don’t start to drift off thinking about him from the mere mention of his name.
“Funny, I didn’t think Nicole was talking about Tom at all. I thought she was talking about herself. SHE traveled (during her years spent with Tom), SHE felt less relevant (during her years spent with Tom) and SHE had an ectopic pregnancy (during her years spent with Tom) Where someone can twist this around and start ranting that she should get over him is totally ridiculous”
Yes, but it was still about the period she spent with Tom. In her Lady’s Journal interview last year she said she loved him and then in this year’s Vanity Fair she mentioned a baby she lost a long time ago and that nobody knew about. I mean, I’m no cult apologist or Tommygirl fan, but it’s such a stark contrast because he never mentions her.
I do think she’s talented, has f*cked up herself badly with botox/plastic surgery but not yet to the point of no return and is a perpetual sympathy-seeker, hence her constant pity-me interviews. Yet, she doesn’t annoy me in the way Aniston did.
#44 Sasha — what’s your ********** problem?!?! Can’t you read?
Jared wrote a headline to get your attention, not what she said, and you apparently either didn’t read further or have no comprehension skills.
Judging by the all caps, you have no writing skills.
I agree with the non-victim sentiment though, but lumping that whiny Aniston creature with Nicole, who really DID have a reason to cry foul and NEVER DID and NEVER HAS, is stupid. Uma Thurman, Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon– these women have held their heads high and gone on with their lives without the need to bash the man they were previously in a relationship with.
Nicole is, and always has been, the epitome of class.
She’s sounds like she has not recovered from the brainwashing she endured while married to Tom. She sounds very, very self-absorbed. Nicole, get over yourself.
Lately, she seems to be settling for QUANTITY of films, rather than quality. I like Nicole but she seems quite arrogant these days. Hope she starts being more selective about the roles she chooses or she’ll be headed on a downward spiral like her ex.
Nicole is a good actress,regardless,thanku.
she is awesome. As usual. Beautiful, talented, not fake at all.
We love you Nic. You make Australia proud.
This was a great article, but of all the segments to have posted this would not have been my preference. Just because there’s one question related to Tom Cruise does not mean it’s the most interesting one. And word to whoever said that the title completely misquotes her.
I’ve always liked Nicole. It makes me sad to see her use Botox but she is still a very beautiful woman and a great actress. The amount of bashing she gets for keeping her skin its natural color rather than doing fake tanning or tanning and risking skin cancer says some sad things about our society and its beauty requirements. And as another fair skinned girl, I’ve always been happy to see she hasn’t bent to the pressure. I hope she really is happier as she says she is.
Questions to the dumbarses:
1: What and who is a loser, can thtink beyon dthe words they drilled into your heard during your e-meter sessions I see
2: Dis I make up Lie sabout scientology and cruise, I htink not, they did all by themesleves, I only point you to the sites, if you dont like it dont read, ignorance is bliss, digg your head up your **** further, it smells great, dont it…even a on eyear old knows that ****, even your own **** smells bad
3: I challenge you to read some more about scientology before you come on her out of sheer ignorance to SAY DEAN AND MYSELF are making your **** miget look bad…what a foolish woman or CLAM …
As soon as Conner and Bella get a little bit older, the truth will come out about hoe badly Tom treated Nicole.
I dont think Nicole was treated badly, she was going along with it till she was dropped…emotional aggressiveness and abuse are hard to note anyway
tom is like a midllaged old alein monky havin a midlife crises when he jumped at oprah caoch ! the guy is weird ! why did poor katy maried him ?
Give me a break she is aging just like the rest of us wrinkles around the eyes, bridge of her nose enlarged pores. Eveyone says her skin is so perfect yes from far away. All of us look good. The lips are enhanced or she burned the hell out of them sucking a tailpipe of a bus. She is human people. Got lucky made a million and married a million twice.
i wonder if she thinks that she is relevant now-she used to be hot when she was with tom, and i don’t think she would be anything if she had not been with him. now she’s had too much crap done to her face, and she looks like a pancaked ghost
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