Tom & Gisele’s Sweet Victory

So erin, what about the Jets who said they tape at every game from teh end zone, and were refused at Gillette last year? You don’t think this was his way to pay them back for that??? Listen, you don’t know what went down with Belichik and Mangini, nor do I. But it’s just a little too coincidental to me that this got reported by Mangini. He knew it was a common practice, and wanted to get back at Belichik because he can’t beat him at his own game.

Then why did Belichick videotape the Jets. Was he afraid that he couldn’t beat them at their own game. What was the purpose of doing it then. Seems pretty stupid if you ask me. To me winning at any cost is not winning at all.

I find it funny that the Patriots would not allow Mangini to videotape at their stadium when the tape every team under the sun. Seems fishy to me. There must be something to the videotaping or Belichick would’t care if they were taped. As for the lip reading. If that is something that every team is guilty of - then they are all on the same playing field - big deal then. But the taping is not widly done so that is an unfair playing field. Where is the hard evidence that any other team is guilty of that - there is none.

I don’t doubt that spygate has hurt their image and will always be a point of contention for a lot of people. It is unfortunate it happened and that Belichick was an arrogant azz about it. Because yes, it does taint their accomplishments in some people’s eyes. I’m saying the league is full of stuff much worse.

As far as the steroid argument, well haven’t you heard all of the players that have been expose ALL OVER THE LEAGUE? How about Shawn Merriman at SD? Didn’t he lead the league in sacks the year before he tested positive for roids? Should that record be taken away or asterisked? How about the freaking felons employed by many teams (accused murders, car theives, drug takers/traffickers, not to mention those accused of domestic abuse or rape)? How is taping signals any worse? Why aren’t these teams, or at least these player’s accomplishments tainted or have an asterisk? If you go down that road where does it end?

The point is the NFL is full of problem children and until all teams and front offices clean up their act no team is ABOVE anything! You really don’t think a team that would employ a felon in order to get a competitive advantage wouldn’t ’stoop’ to cheating by stealing signals? That is a bit ‘thick’ of you.
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No response? I’m disappointed I like to argue when I’m bored at work.

erin, you’re just making ridiculous points. There IS bad blood between those two men, and you can’t convince me it was a coincidence that Mangini reported him. No, there’s no proof, but take a look at every team’s sidelines. I’ve seen cameras there for years. I think it was commonly done, even though it’s not allowed by the league, and it was just not enforced. Now that it has, no one will do it. The bottom line is, they’re a great team. They have been under great scrutiny this season, and they STILL went 16-0.

Another thing, erin, I don’t deny Belichik can be arrogant. But it was one young assistant doing the videotaping, and I”m sure it was a directive from Belichick. THIS TEAM HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT!! THey weren’t even aware. So why beat up the players, who work their butts off every day, and condemn them too???? They have to go out and execute those plays, and win. Tom Brady had nothing to do with that videotaping scheme. They’ve won 3 Super Bowls in this decade, and no one gives them the credit they deserve. Those players may not be the best in the game, but they know “the Patriot Way” works. There are no individuals; it’s about the team. So I may not like Mr. Belichik, but I respect what he teaches his men. The game after the taping incident, they showed the locker room, and all the players were gathered around Bill. They gave him the game ball, and Tedy Bruschi gave the most eloquent speech about the man, and what he means to them.

So, erin, you can stubbornly think what you want. The team works hard, and they deserve more respect than the trash you talk about them.

The Patriot Way. That sounds real cool. I wish I liked them now. Wow they have their own way.

I highly doubt Mangini asked Belichick permission to do anything. Belichick probably knew he was going to do it, because it is a common practice, or was a common practice, and Belichick took it upon himself to stop Mangini from doing it. Maybe that was part of the bad blood that led to Mangini ‘outing’ Belichick as payback. Makes sense to me.

Why would he stop him from doing it. I don’t understand. You say it is common practice (not). If he does it himself - why would he stop anyone else from doing it. That dosn’t make any sense. He dosn’t want anyone else to cheat on him yet he will do it to others. Some coach!

That must be the Patriot Way - I can cheat but you can’t.

It goes back to the bad blood between these two coaches. THey hated each other long before this scandal. They are petty and vindictive people, both of them, when it comes to each other. I think they would go to great lengths to get at each other. It’s like another poster said, Belichick was teasing his whiny sister, or something to that effect. Anyway my ‘theory’ above was just a shot in the dark and done ‘tongue in cheek’. I thought that was obvious, but I guess not. Why are you taking it to heart? I don’t know these people and neither do you.

The Patriots got caught, they did the crime, they did the time. Why can’t people, such as you erin, move on? I’m really curious. Have the Patriots been beating up on your favorite team for a long time and now you are like, ‘well no wonder, they are cheaters!’? Is that it? Because that sounds like losers making excuses to me.

And I ask you again, can you prove no other teams cheat? No you cannot. And if you want to throw steriods into the mix, why don’t teams with players that get caught with steriods get labeled cheater? Having players that are physically enhanced is a more tangible and immediate advantage for a TEAM than the possibility of MAYBE catching a familiar signal from the opposing sideline.

Yes, erin. I have been agreeing with you on that point. Belichick is an arrogant ass, I said it several times. There was no reason for it other than simply trying to win some idiotic pis*sing contest with Mangini. Childish and petty and it has cost his team and his reputation. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the point of other teams doing it. I firmly and honestly feel it is widespread and that the Patriots are still a great team and Brady is MVP this year. Who knows, we may still here about the results of the investigation. Maybe it just isn’t complete yet. Maybe we won’t and it will just go away. But I’m going to take my own advice and let it go. It isn’t like anything we say is going to change anything. I’m done, for real this time. Happy New Year.

I don’t think Gisele and Tom will last. He is at the top of his game and deserves all the credits that he has received for excelling in a physically and mentally demanding sport. But, Gisele never looks happy or smiles when being photographed with him. I don’t think she is comfortable in this relationship. The PDA photos are rare now. He looks very stressed in every photo of them together. Is the glow of the romance waning?? I believe the Pats will win the Super Bowl. I was glad to hear that Brady’s son was at the game. He is doing his best during a demanding season to father a child who is located across the country. I have 5 children, my husband travels all over the world. But, when he is with our children, he gives them total attention. I am sure the Tom Brady will give more of himself to his son in February. Gisele hasn’t had to share the sportlight or Brady’s affection with his son yet. February will definitely be a test to their waning romance.