Roseanne Barr Hates Oprah

Hi Orchid,
If you return, I wanted to share this article with you. It’s a rallying call and maybe enough to keep up “the spirit.” …don’t dismay.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/09/AR2008050902298_pf.html

Quitters Never Win
By Ellen R. Malcolm
Saturday, May 10, 2008; A15

When I was growing up in the 1960s, I wanted to play basketball. In those days, the rules said girls could dribble only three steps and then had to pass the ball. To make sure we didn’t overexert ourselves, we weren’t allowed to cross the half-court line. It’s a wonder our fans (our mothers) could stay awake when a typical game’s final score was 14-10.

It’s remarkable that my generation of women entered the workforce and began to compete in business, politics and the hurly-burly of life outside the home. How did we ever learn to locate, much less channel, our competitive instincts in a world that made us play half-court and assumed that we would be content staying home to iron the shirts? It’s a tremendous tribute to women of my generation that we sucked it up and learned to compete in the toughest environments.

Which brings us to Hillary Clinton running for president. This brilliant woman believes that she can compete for the most powerful office in the world. She believes that she can do a better job than any of the men running to lead our country through these challenging times. And millions of Americans, women and men, believe that she is correct.

Yet over and over again the media and her opponents have claimed that she is defeated — it’s over, she can’t win, she’s a loser. And over and over again — in New Hampshire, on Super Tuesday, in Texas and Ohio, in Pennsylvania last month, and in Indiana this week — female voters poured out of their homes to cast their ballots for her. They know that women can compete, and they want to make sure that women, especially this woman, can win.

It’s not surprising that low-income working women are the cornerstone of Hillary’s success. Many of these women live on the edge of disaster. A pink slip, a family member’s illness, a parent who can no longer live alone, a car that won’t start or a mortgage rate that goes up — all are threats that could devastate the family. And yet these women do what women have done for ages. They put on a confident face, feed their children breakfast and get them off to school. They don’t quit. They suck it up and fight back against whatever life throws their way.

They see in Hillary Clinton a candidate who understands the pressures they face. As they watch her tough it out against all odds, refusing to quit and continuing to compete against whatever the media and her opponents throw her way, they see a woman as tough and resilient as they are. They clearly want her to win. Her victory, I believe, is their victory.

So here we are in the fourth quarter of the nominating process and the game is too close to call. Once again, the opponents and the media are calling for Hillary to quit. The first woman ever to win a presidential primary is supposed to stop competing, to curtsy and exit stage right.

Why on earth should one candidate quit before the contest is finished? Democrats need not be so fainthearted. Both of the party’s remaining candidates have raised tens of millions of dollars. Both have the respect of Democrats nationwide. Each has a progressive agenda that stands in stark contrast to Sen. John McCain and his adherence to Bush administration policies.

So why are some Democrats so afraid? We simply need to count every vote, let the remaining states have their say and see the process through to its conclusion.

Hillary Clinton certainly has the right to compete till the end. But I believe Hillary also has a responsibility to play the game to its conclusion. For the women of my generation who learned to find and channel their competitiveness, for the working women who never falter in the face of pressure, for the younger women who still believe women can do anything, Hillary is a champion. She’s shown us over and over that winners never quit and that quitters never win. We’ll cheer her on until the game is over. And we hope that when the final whistle blows, we will have elected the first female president and the best president our country has ever had.

Re: # 500 Orchid @ 05/10/2008 at 3:31 pm

don’t know about HRC running as an independent…this country is not yet receptive to an independent winning…I think it will come but it doesn’t seem the timing is right yet. There aren’t enough “independents” in numbers or “notoriety”. The more voters who become frustrated and mad at the two current major political parties, the more likely they will become independents and split and not align with any. Other minor parties who have attempted to supplement the gap and lure the dissatisfied have failed dramatically. I think the true “independents” have lost confidence in “organized” parties. I’ve been an independent for over fifteen years and cross over all the time because for me it’s the candidate, not the “blanket goals” of a Party…it’s that Libertarian in me, LOL. IMO Schwarzenagger more so than McCain, is the closest ideal to an “independent” candidate embracing attributes of both current parties. California liberal Republicans, conservative Democrats and independents embraced him.

The pundits are saying that HRC has branded herself as the “comeback fighter, never giving up” which will help her in four years…which is interesting because it is based on the assumption that McCain will win or if Obama wins, his term will be mediocre. They are claiming if HRC dropped out she will have an “Ed Muskie” reputation as a forever loser and it will work against her in the future if she wants to try again. Another interesting comment is that HRC is staying in because for whatever reason if Obama has another gaffe or is “pushed off the stage by the Republicans, she “wants” to be there to step in and she would be foolish to step down.

504 The pundits are saying that HRC has branded herself as the “comeback fighter, never giving up” which will help her in four years…which is interesting because it is based on the assumption that McCain will win or if Obama wins, his term will be mediocre. They are claiming if HRC dropped out she will have an “Ed Muskie” reputation as a forever loser and it will work against her in the future if she wants to try again. Another interesting comment is that HRC is staying in because for whatever reason if Obama has another gaffe or is “pushed off the stage by the Republicans, she “wants” to be there to step in and she would be foolish to step down.
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She is feisty! I like it that she isn’t dropping out. I saw **** Morris, who used to work for Bill Clinton, on TV saying that she should run in 1012! He expects McCain to win.

Hi Orchid,
I don’t think Hillary should take Obama’s VP offer, “if” he offers. I’m not sure what she would gain by doing so…gosh she deserves so much more than that.
re: her being in debt, wish I had saved that link where the pundits laughed at Hillary being concerned with her debt…they said that was least on her mind because there was some campaign law (can’t remember the details) that will reimburse her in full.

re: bringing the party together…that is such a croc!! I was annoyed at Edwards for throwing his support to Obama for what appears to be the sole purpose of “uniting the party”…what bull. The system is in a mess and uniting the Democratic Party will not make the system more fair, nor representative of the voting public.
I’m really confused with McCain…was scanning the radio and ended up listening to a very conservative radio talk show because I heard his name being mentioned and the two talk radio hosts were belittling McCain for being a Democrat in his policies and stances on issues…did you know that he almost switched from Republican to Democrat to run in the primary? There were comments that he is NOT a Republican and a traitor to the party and that anyone who votes for him is voting “Democratic”. they reminded the audience that McCain was one of the infamous “gang of 14″ who opposed Bush on many issues and that McCain has voted consistently against many Republican backed legislature..a renegade Republican…has an interesting ring to it.

What do you think of McCain? I’m not happy with his Iraqi pull out date of 2013…need to research that more, just read the headlines.

508 first and last post @ 05/15/2008 at 11:54 pm Hi Orchid,
I don’t think Hillary should take Obama’s VP offer, “if” he offers. I’m not sure what she would gain by doing so…gosh she deserves so much more than that.
ITA

re: her being in debt, wish I had saved that link where the pundits laughed at Hillary being concerned with her debt…they said that was least on her mind because there was some campaign law (can’t remember the details) that will reimburse her in full.
I’m glad to hear that!

re: bringing the party together…that is such a croc!! I was annoyed at Edwards for throwing his support to Obama for what appears to be the sole purpose of “uniting the party”…what bull. The system is in a mess and uniting the Democratic Party will not make the system more fair, nor representative of the voting public.
The system is unfair. If they want to make it fair, bring the party together and all that, they should allow MI and Florida to vote./b>

What do you think of McCain? I’m not happy with his Iraqi pull out date of 2013…need to research that more, just read the headlines.
Why be confused! I’m sure he will be flexible about Iraq. He will have to be! Anyway, even if he lets them stay there, they don’t have to fight. How about rebuilding what they have destroyed, and what AJ has suggested - help the refugees come home and resettle. THAT will win hearts, and improve relations between the US and the ME!
Even BHO, who is determined to bring the troops home, has said that if necessary, he’d send them back! Imagine the cost! He promises in his campaign speeches to ‘bring them home’ just to win votes.

Since HRC seems to be on the way out, and since McCain is kind of ‘in the middle’ between the two parties, I think Democrats who don’t care for BHO, could happily vote for McCain!
The Republicans have a problem. I’m starting to think the die-hard McCain haters among them wouldn’t mind voting for Hillary if she is the candidate, but I’m afraid she won’t be.

Now that I think about it, I like this renegade Republican. He is not a party-man. He thinks for himself! I like that. Plus he is a war hero.
I really don’t know all their complaints about him. I only remember that ‘he is not conservative enough.’ Well, he is their candidate, and if they don’t vote for him, they get BHO, who is ultra-left! Worse, for them.

How are you, FALP? Is your computer still being difficult?

How do you Morons know 100% that Roseanne hates Oprah she did’nt even say one word about hating her. All she said was that she STRONGLY dissagres with oprahs opinion. And that she believes that a Strong women who actually has been in politics for over 30 years( Hillary Clinton) is more sutable for the presidential position. Hillary has done multiple politacle positions in her life time and that does include her being the former presidents wife #22. And #5 Maybe if you had some schooling when you were a little punk your vocabulary would not be filled with swear words. Oh! and # 29 the same goes to you because Roseanne is a strong women because if knew what her life was like as a child you might rethink your comment. Another thing #29 your a complete idiot because your probably the type of kid that his little mommy drops him off at school and goes back home does her nails while daddy is earning the big bucks to keep you sorry spoiled rotten good for nothing ingrates fed. Ha! Hope you guys liked my comments. Have a nice day.

Sincerly,
barrieboy23

Besides, she was endorsed by Spielberg many years ago when they did “Color Purple” who happened to have the first Obama event two to three years ago in Hollywood, thus bringing in media and Hollywood crowd, making it chique. They want to make you feel racist, if you don’t vote for Obama. Personally, I don’t like their tactics.

Oprah is an anti-American but yet she still won’t leave this country. She doesn’t invest here like she does in africa or if she does it’s only in black neihborhoods. Oprah is a fake just like her boy Obama.