Rachel Bilson’s Passport Photo Shoot

There’s nothing eco-friendly about a ‘hybrid’ SUV!
It’s just good ol marketing B-S.

Thank you Rosenmadder, Smilehexe, Bad Girl, Irishdreams and Nova Lee! I appreciate all your posts and Rosenmadder taking the time to explain yourself so well. Well done!

It look’s like I, Tessa, Marta and Sue and some of Rachel’s PR and sock puppets came out to say their two cents worth! Good luck w/ that!

rachel the pill is so dull as a dail tone. not to mention useing peeps to get her name out there. promoting the movie fine. but don’t pull a paris,britney,and even yoko romo.(if anyone who is a dallas cowboy fan and a texas citizen nows what iam talking bout). more and more she is putting her foot in her mouth. when that happenes she would be so far in a hole and she could not dig her dingy self out of. nuff said…

I like your comment Rosemadder I don’t feel and never have that these two are anything but co-workers they have a movie to promote and they have to do that together another reason they hang..I see Hayden working in LA more then hanging out..And two photo’s in a months time doesn’t prove a thing it wasn’t dinner or holding hands going to a premier not something of his..and they don’t come out ONLY Rachel she is the one doing all the fashion shows and premiers..SHe is the lime light queen and I don’t think she dislikes it one bit..she adores it. Someone claimed she hangs with his family Show me where she hangs with his family never one picture of them but, at Awake and she was Hayden’s guest that night to go so it would be said she would be with his close friends and family for a dinner..She to what I see on the outside doesn’t show outside interest in Hayden family but maybe Tove as he is in LA..Forest Park I heard does foreign commericals more then movies thus the reason you don’t see the name on movies.

@67 Smilehexe

I’m sorry if you misunderstood me and thought I said or thought you to be anything more than stating your opinion and stating it from afar. That wasn’t my intention in the slightest.

And, for the record, I’m playing devil’s advocate to prove a point. There’s too many variables in this proverbial equation. All the arguments are only opinion and assumptions and a single person can play both sides. That tells a person something very profound about all this and that’s that no one knows the truth. We don’t know what’s going on nor really should we know. We don’t know what’s going on with Christensen and what’s going through his head. Yes, actions speak louder than words. I wholeheartedly agree. But, we must also keep in mind that we don’t know the reasons, intentions, and train of thought behind those actions which is just as equally important. Unlike Bilson, his intentions, reasons, and train of thought aren’t as easily visible. And, he’s made it that way. There is a such thing as cause and effect. We’ve only really seen the effect. We haven’t and more than likely never will see and know about the cause. Not on his end. My point was that there’s too much that could be responsible for it and as fans and the world’s population in general have no right to see it.

Some fans have the mistaken idea that their rights are equal to that of close friends and family only because the person in question is a so called “celebrity.” They forget their true place in the scheme of things. Those fans are complete and total stranger to that “celebrity” in question and odds are they will always be that way. Fans don’t normally go out for coffee with the person; they don’t spend any physical time hanging out with that person getting to know them in person despite the wanting to. Christensen doesn’t, in the words of a line from “The Devil Wears Prada,” “discuss every facet of his decision-making then brush each other’s hair and gab about American Idol” with his fans. That’s asking for too much. He doesn’t answer to his fans for the decisions and choices he makes in his personal life. He doesn’t drag it out in detail for public view and consumption therefore it’s not the fans’ business. It’s not anyone’s business because he hasn’t made it our business. Bilson is trying to but he hasn’t. If it wasn’t for Bilson, everyone probably wouldn’t know as much, true or imagined, as they do. Most gossips don’t give a damn about him. The only true times they talk about him is when he’s with or possibly with one of his co-stars romantically. And, those co-stars happen to be media hounds. Put two and two together on that one. Who are the ones dragging it out in public? It definately doesn’t look like it’s Christensen but there’s still that doubt and not knowing what’s going on in the background; behind the scenes. Unless any of us are there involved in the thick of it, none of us will ever know.

There’s several possible reasons as to why his company hasn’t been doing any films since 2003. They could’ve have done more in the TV vein or, as Irishdreams stated, foreign commericals. They are doing that Beast of Bataan flick which was confirmed by Variet and Hollywood Reporter. IMDB is far from the most reliable source for information of films since it’s not kept up with too much current information all the time. So, the company is still around. You have to remember that Christensen’s company isn’t one of the big ones. They’re smaller, more indie. Projects for them don’t come around as often as the bigger production companies despite the fact there’s quite a few scripts floating around every year. Just because there’s quite a few scripts floating around doesn’t make them any good or what they want to do. Then factor in the Writer’s Strike as of recently which only compounds the problem that they most likely have been dealing with for so long. Without the writers, everything comes to a screeching halt. None of the writers with the guild can write anything both TV and film. True, more for TV than for film but film is still very much affected by it. Especially the smaller production companies.

Fans don’t know the details of these things. Hell, I’m onl pointing out an educated guess not fact. As fans, we don’t have the right to be in on the behind the scenes details. It’s the same as going up to his front door and knocking without being invited first. We have the right to like or dislike his work. We have the right to think what we want but we don’t have the right to think we have the right to be behind that curtain without a specific invite by himself. He hasn’t done that. Saying that fans do is like saying stalking is legal. Because that’s what it would be. Stalking. All because he played a character up on the screen that wasn’t really him. You can’t say he’s changed when you don’t really know what and who he truly was to begin with. Not without personally knowinghim

Continuing from my last post:

Personal problems aren’t an apology for anything. And, he doesn’t owe anyone an apology. No, actors aren’t “better” than anyone else but they do, like everyone else, have personal problems. The only difference is for “celebrities” they tend to slip into public view more often whether they want them to or not. But, you can tell the difference between the accidental slipping out and the on purpose. Christensen’s pretty much is the accidental. If it’s accidental, than it should just be let be. Saying that he can’t deal with his personal problems out of the public eye just because he’s a “celebrity” and those problems tend to show a little more than most who aren’t in that position is denying him to be what he is, HUMAN. And, why should he owe anyone an apology? He hasn’t done anything heinous or broken any laws. He hasn’t slighted anyone personally. He’s lived his life. That’s something that deserves an apology from him? With all due respect and no offense intended, but that’s completely ridiculous and total BS. (not mocking) It’s the same as expecting him to say “Oh, I’m sorry for being alive and breathing. Gee, my bad.” At least he’s not going off the deep end like Spears is. He’s a shy, quiet, private guy for the most part who is living his life how he chooses. He has that right even if he is a “celebrity.” We may not agree with or even fathom some of the things he does and decides to do but that’s his choice and it’s his life. He doesn’t owe an apology to anyone for that. If it doesn’t hurt anyone but himself, not his fans, than why ask for an apology or expect one? If it does hurt anyone else, it’s the ones closest to him and he doesn’t have to or should get up on the proverbial soapbox and make a public apology to them. Again, that’ll go down behind the scenes; something we won’t ever see.

And, I totally agree. It’s very difficult to see Bilson wanting that part out of view of the public. Extremely hard. But, she does disappear for a week or two every now and then. She does for that week or two, stay out of the public eye. It’s not often to put it mildly but it’s still there. Just have to really look for it which does say something about Bilson.

Bravo again RM..

Yes Hayden doesn’t own anyone explainatins to his private life..But when he does come out on the few occassions he does interviews you know it was for the job reasons and not because he is a celebrity..I don’t get the same feeling from Rachel..I believe she enjoys this lifestyle she has created for herself..and granted she can enjoy it..but to exploite it in the media to me screams volumes..To assume we understand Hayden and his reasons would be nuts..we can’t and we don’t..To me in my view of his verbal interviews and photo’s and thats all anyone really has to go by as magazines are not reliable for the most part. but the word of the person is..so going on that I would say he acts and looks happier when he is working or when he is promoting and doing his thing..I don’t think he enjoys too much media attention and I dont think he ever will, I see Rachel will and does enjoy it and thus will continue to do what make her happy. I don’t see either of them happy completely when they are around each other but, again that is observation not based on knowing them. I believe eventually Hayden will move into totally producing seems he started this business with his brother and I think he might someday want more hands on experience with the Forest Park. He always says he is a homeboy and will never leave his home in Canada totally he will for business but not to live elsewhere. To me right now as the observer I feel what he wants is not to be tied down, to enjoy his career, and go back to his home in Canada where he can be the normal man and not the celebrity. I don’t feel Rachel will want the same thing that hayden does..And I too see her in her place of comfort which is LA..

@Rosemadder - to your added post
When did I ever ask for an apology of Hayden?! And even a public one? What for?! As you say, he never did something really bad or even against the law, and I never claimed that.
This saying I meant generally, concerning all people, actors and the other ones. ;-) I just tried to say that even personal problems would not be an apology for me for the way I see Hayden behave in public now (e.g. the bloopers reel of this PSA-ad, and some more things).
And going out with Miss Bilson does not mean that something is slipping out “accidental” but always on purpose. This is like going to a friend whom I know is spreading things telling her a secret and ask her please not to tell. In this fictive scenario I could be sure that the secret would make its rounds, and so it is with Bilson.
And Bilson retreating for about two weeks? I cannot talk about what Bilson did before she met Hayden as I truly was not interested in her at all (and still would not be if it was not for Hayden)… but since that Rome-trip the only times I saw her disappearing was around Christmas time each year, and this last holidays she WAS SAID TO HAVE SPENT in Canada with Hayden and his family (not proven, just rumors, for the record). So there probably no paps were available who would get into their cars and meet her “accidental” after she called them as she simply does not know the right people there to call, or MAYBE also Hayden said something finally to her about it all, that he is kind of nerved by this situation (and who could blame him?!) and she “obeyed” him for a while to make good weather again not to take the risk that he could jump off the whole plan, if with or without a contract (her plan to be with him, or the studio’s with contract, whatever).
Fact is, the moment she returned to L.A. her media game went on, and totally in her old habits. Observing her doing during the whole past year she used Hayden (again, with his permission as he was deciding to be with her) whenever he was there and used the time without him to be seen by doing other “important” things like shopping, fueling her car, presenting a new hair style, walking the dog in high heels (maybe the only good trait in her I can see, that she seems to love Thurmen Murmen), and shopping again. Oh, and once she was at a sports game with Hattie, which of course was documented by photographs, as was the day she took the kid to the set of a TV-show, again with pictures taken of course which made it even more “credible”. The rest of time she started to wear this silly “H”-necklace to heat up the rumors even more.
So to me this girl needs no privacy as she seems to breath the air much fresher when it is between her and a camera. LOL
And I surely don’t take the time to “really look” after Bilson’s emotions deep inside, sorry, as this girl already works on my nerves enough with all the things she does in public. ;-) I’m always glad I don’t see her. She’s simply too omnipresent for my taste.

@ Rosemadder

To be honest with you,your opinions make you seem like a Hayden fan that thinks they know EVERYTHING about him,when you are stating facts,and being a little bit to strong with it,like you knnow the truth,when me and Smilehexe sounds like we have the better and opinion and the truthful side of what we have been seeing now and of the past. And stop saying that it’s non of our business,no duh its non of our business,BUT US AS FANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW A little something,I mean if he didn’t have fans,he wouldn’t be s*** (that sounded mean but oh well!)

@Bad Girl
These things are to find in public as well, and probably you know them, observer that you seem to be, like me. ;-)
Would also like to e-mail you but not giving out my addy all public. Are you registered on IMDB?

@Rosemadder
Now I had a good laugh on your post, but not an evil one. :-)

I agree to the first part of your post concerning Hayden in movie business not really have found his place yet. Otherwise, he’s in it since he was a child, first not intense but already getting a bit of what to expect I guess.
And in the meanwhile he has chosen to become and stay an actor (as for e.g. studying architecture he would have still been young enough for a long time). So he likes the advantages: the acting itself, lots of money, lots of leisure time, both bringing him great freedom financially and time wise which he surely knows to appreciate. (And yes, I also don’t see him as the most patient person ever. LOL)
But - like every other thing in life - also this “dream job” for some people (not me BTW) has disadvantages as well, as not having a regular hiring and income, so insecurity. Then, of course, the public. There are only two possibilities for him, take it or leave it. If he wants to do it and stay in this business, he’ll have to cope with fame too. And let’s be honest, it’s not that hard on him than on e.g. a Brad Pitt. I mean such people are really only to pity, I would go crazy in their place. But Hayden could still do two movies a year and spend the rest of the time quietly in Canada, and I’m sure he’d find his peace there.
Nobody can do this decision for him if he wants to take this job with the price it comes along or give it up and maybe finding something more suitable for him. (And I’m not talking about his acting here, to all you Star Wars-obsessed Hayden-bashers out there!) Young enough he is for any kind of job wise change, learning something totally different etc., financially independent he seems as well.

With what I cannot agree at all to is your opinion about him “having to find a woman, and only in movie business”. But like you said, without any hard feelings between us! :-)
Why do you think she’d have to work in that business to understand him?! No way I can agree to that. If this would be true every wife would have to be working in the same job than her husband… imagine a doctor here, or a cop, with all their erratic working schedules, often with unplanned missions, even by night! Or an engineer who goes abroad for a project for months or even longer… a pilot, whatever, there are many examples. Do you really think all these people’s partners need the same job to understand? No, no, and again no… shakehead. Spread this thought over the whole world, and nothing would function anymore. ;-) I think in every partnership you need lots of tolerance and understanding, no matter what the other one works. The ability of empathy to a certain point is a base to deal with people I think (if as lovers or just working partners).
And search actively for love? Well, I’ve also been pushed into that and it never worked, I can tell you that. I believe that love really can develop spontaneous and by accident only, and not planned in any form. All these blind dates, advertisements in papers or online… just forget it. Call me over-romantic, but that’s what I believe in. I don’t think someone can leave the house and tell him-/herself: “Today I’ll find my dream partner.” No way that this works. What one can do is to go out open minded and not block him-/herself, but walk through the surroundings with open eyes, by hoping not to expect too much and then be too disappointed. But there the control one has ends IMO.
And Hayden would have plenty of possibilities to meet women… he has to go shopping where he lives, he could do some charity (not for public, but quietly and regularly), a library… or even onset, but not an actress, as I agree to everything what you’ve said about them. There are the stylists, the ones doing the catering, it could be a female driver, whatever. And just after his bad/sad experience with S.M. I thought he would have checked that. He surely doesn’t depend on somebody of Miss Bilson’s (no)class just to be with somebody. And why try to force it anyway? Just let it happen… and as “far” (not!) as I see Hayden living relationships up to now it’s probably really better for him to wait a little longer and get more mature before heading into something wrong. No bad intention included in that saying, just my honest opinion.

@Rosemadder
Thanks again for the compliment. (blush)
See, that with “you” is a problem based in German, we write “Du” if we address somebody directly but “du” if it’s just general… yet both stands for “you”… ts, ts, language problems, at almost 01:00 a.m. :lol:
But just like you I love to express myself as clear as ever possible, and sorry, also never in very short posts, and I enjoy such a good discussion as we had today just so much! :-)
Still I have to go to bed now, but I do hope we meet here again? For tonight I’m off, as a sleepless head cannot think properly and form other worth reading posts. ;-) Enjoy your day, to all US-people, and Good Night to the Europeans!
(I’m highly interested what you’ll have to say to my view on the “love matters”…)

I’ve taken no hard feelings for anything in all of this in the slightest! LOL It’s just two people who are sharing and discussing their individual opinions and points of view. That’s all. No harm in that. No one needs to take it personally.

In response as to why I think that woman for him MIGHT be someone in the industry. That business….well, that business is insane by nature and it is hard to comprehend a lot of it being on the outside of it. With him CHOOSING to be in it, it does have a lot of demands that most other people in different professions can’t handle. True, there have been a few that have been with someone in the business who were, in fact, not but they are a rare few. Then there’s the fact that he is an actor and the roles he might choose could very well demand a love scene between him and his co-star. Not too many woman can handle that even though knowing it’s not real (suppose to be anyway or at least not turn real. LOL) That kind of stuff does mess with one’s head and it’s hard to watch and take. All I know is I would have a very much hard time with it! LOL I can’t speak for anyone else but I at least can say that. But, I do very much agree with you on your idea of love. I think of it the same way personally but my point was MAYBE Christensen might not. He might not have come to that realization yet. It’s very much possible. He’s only 26. He’s still young. Just in my opinion, he SEEMS to be a overactive go-getter which lends to that reasoning of him actively trying to find that love and the lack of patience. He SEEMS not to like having to leave things to chance and that’s where he tends to get into trouble in not only that but other things in life as well. Hence why I said patience SEEMS to be not one of his virtues. Whether is going to succeed at it or he is succeeding at it…that’s a whole different story. Just my opinion.

I absolutely and totally agree with you he needs to wait a little while and let things happen however they may turn out. But, whether he does that or not, that’s up to him. We can only watch and occasionally shake our heads. LOL