Mark Cornelsen: T.R. Knight’s New Boyfriend

Aw, they’re so cute together!

Hollyweird can keep pushing it, but it’s still not normal!!

TR seems A LOT skinnier (his face, at least) compared to when he first started on Grey’s Anatomy.

Lenny @ 02/25/2008 at 8:24 pm Hollyweird can keep pushing it, but it’s still not normal!!
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Finally, a sane person!

I think TR’s face in this pic is a phoney. It looks cut out.

disliking people for what you don’t understand is what isn’t normal

#12 i didn’t know… oh well

omg how sweeeet they look together

What’s not normal?

amen #18

I think it’s terrible not to accept your childs sexuality. Put your GD so called Christian beliefs first instead of unconditional love for your child. It’s a huge loss to the parents who are too stupid to realize this. People should not have children if they can’t accept the possibility that their child may be a homosexual.

Good on Mark for making something of his life, and good for Mark and TR for finding one another. I wish them all the happiness in this world.

To Carol in Glendale:
The article never said the family was “Christian” so let’s not put labels just because you obviously have issues against Christianity. I believe you’re the one spreading the hate here.

Wait, what??! JARED’S GAY??!

#12 WTF are you talking about? Did you just call JustJared not normal? Why are you on this site if you are bashing the blogger? You make zero sense.

Anyways, they look cute together.

He has a wonk eye like Paris.

Super cute! Good for them. I wish them luck and hope that others can accept their relationship. I’d rather see these two hotties together than any of those other CRAZY hollywood heterosexual couples out there!!

Oh my gosh!! I am so happy for T.R.

Finally, finally, finally we see him out and about with someone and grinning ear to ear. I live in LA and thought I had seen him out with a guy at a cafe a few weeks ago. Now I know, it had to be him. Who cares how old the guy is… they look cute together, happy as can be. And Mark is quiet handsome! WOW

Could not be more pleased to see this picture :) Adorable.

Thanks for introducing us to this hot new coupling Jared!

Look forward to seein more pics

disgusting

gay is wrong

I still cannot believe T.R. is gay. They make a cute couple.

T.R doesnt look comfortable, but i am happy for him anyways. Mark looks really cute.

How old is Mark Cornelson??? Is he just 18?? ok eww
I don’t care that they are gay, that’s fine but 34 and 18?? ew
or is he 20??

So this kid is what, right out of high school, about to attend college?? Hmmm.

AWWWWWWW….

Looks as though he’s robbing the cradle….

@anthony

Don`t be sad about it.They`re other cute gay guys in the world.

the thing is: wether it’s normal or not it’s something people can not change about themselves. I just think that there’s no need to make them feel extra bad about that with mean comments or whatever.

skankyHO @ 02/25/2008 at 10:11 pm He has a wonk eye like Paris.

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Other than how young he looks compared to T.R., that’s the first thing i notice, too.

TOTAL WONK EYE.

And no offence, but as cute as he is why is he with T.R.’s annoying ass? It has to be for the money and recognition. How can he deal with T.R.’s hag Katherine H. ? I bet she sits and watches them have sex, praying T.R. will invite her to join in.

Mark is way cute, and the haters can get educated.

Um, Lenny, as long as you like internet gossip, you’d better get used to the gays.

Totally adorable! Love T.R. !

This kid used to make my coffee at Mug Shots every day! I had wondered where he went off to. Between Mark and Jake Locker, our little town is crankin out the pseudo-celebrities!

Agree with Agreed and Lenny. Mark was super sweet and nice though.

Mark’s hometown is ten mins away from mine, so I admire him for the things that he has worked to accomplish in his young life. If this is truely love and they are both adults then age should not be what is looked at.. What should be looked at is why do “we” think that when two people love eachother we are to dictate if they really love one another?

dang go mark…hahaha…i used to go to school with him hes a cool guy

Julia… are you serious?? I was wondering about that! Mark seems like a nice kid and all, and I starrted a facebook page in his honor, but I was wondering how much of this whole situation was exaggerated. He is really a cute kid, but it does seem odd that communications have been severed. I am considerably older than he is… more TR’s age, and when I saw this and found that he was affiliated with the MAtthew Shepard Foundation I could not help but to respond. Many people say that the age difference is an “eye brow raise” and although I am typically openminded about situations as these, I am questioning the motives here.

Although I am not willing to reveal my identity as of yet, I will say that I have had some trouble recently (within a month or so) from a facebook liser who was claiming to be TR Knight. There were ALOT of people who believed it was really him… myself included… and a red flag went up in my mind when the impostor FINALLY reveal himself as a teen aged kid who was “supposedly from England.” On reflection, there was a comment posted on this facebook listing “after I caught him” that stated: “Hi, my name is Mark, and I am running TR Knight’s fan page”! THAT was a slip up!— because this kid FIRST told me that his name was Jake! And I have the listing saved to prove it! Could this have been Mark Cornelsen?

Alot of us are wondering because along with that, he knew very intimate details that only someone who really knew TR would know… Furthermore, just AFTER I had written to the REAL Mark Cornelsen just DAYS ago, a mysterious and coincidental comment came in response to a YOUtube posting I had made in regard to one of TR’s videos where I’d been mentioning the TR impostor. They wanted to know if I caught the impostor, what happened, and BEGGED me to tell them who it was… Well, when I looked to see where and who was listing the question it gave a feke name of course, by the name of “Igor”, and the age was listed as 19!! Too many coincidences, I think!

Well, friends and myself have been discussing this situation, and if it indeed is/was Mark who was the Impostor, it was a pretty ****** and UNCLASSY thing to do.. And as far as TR Knight… we all used to like him very much… VERY MUCH, but after following his track record, we are wondering about his intentions with this boy as well… he seems to follow the limelight around… and it is beginning to show..

Just wanted to offer comment.

Mark; it’s coach Sue (red lions soccer). I have been worried @ you. It seems that you are happy…finally. I can not imagine your parents “logic” They, obviously, have none. You were always a terrific kid. I would be proud to call you my son. Your brother is an entirely different matter. How supposedly “educated” people can condone arrogance and rudeness and toss a sweet, kind person out of the house is beyond me. I hope you are really ok. I feel sorry that your narrow minded parents don’t appreciate you for the kind hearted, fun,sweet, handsome REAL person that you are. Take good care sweetie. e-mail me if h’wood time permits. Alex & Ian say hi too. xo

what?! I don’t believe it! How do you spell E-S-C-O-R-T? And I’m not talking about the compact Ford, either!

It is interesting to hear people and their thoughts. Just a thank you to the people who really know his family. We love him and we will always love him. He is welcome at home and always has been. We miss him very much.

I’ve been watching the messages of this post for quite awhile now. And you know, the time has come for me to say a few things about the situation. I’m 39, and like Mark, I also am gay. Even more than that is the fact that I know exactly the kind of situation he is up against with his family. It happened to me. It was 1987, and the times were different. The world was prejudice about gays then— even moreso than now, and it was holding on the the old belief that we were sick individuals who had made a concious choice to be this way. This isn’t the truth. And it isn’t a choice, but a life… not a lifestyle, we are put into from the day we are concieved. We are not “made” individuals, but are people of a predestined situation of which we did not ask for or of which we had a choice. Our lives are not multiple choice selections of sexual orientation, in the same way that we can’t choose our fates at our lives ends. This is a choice and a selection that was, in fact, chosen for us by a supreme power beyond that of ourselves or mankind. People of religion call us an abomination; society calls us sinners. And through it all, we strive to be kind to everyone– do the right things, help others in need– all the while never asking for than more than acceptance in return. All men are created equal– so a great American doocument once read, and the Bible teaches all of us that God created us in HIS own image. It’s that image that people like Mark and me are trying to measure up to. If HE indeed created us in HIS own image, and “lying” is a sin, then trying to be something that we were never intended to be would be a lie— a defiance to HIM and HIS plan for us. Another situation is a parent’s unconditional love for a child. Believe it or not, I can see both sides. I understand that this has been a difficult situation for Mark’s parents— it was for mine. Visions of carrying on the family Crest, bloodline, and grandchildren, cloud the present view a parent should have in regards to the well-being and happiness of their own children, at times. This is not a “survival-of- the- fittess” of carrying on generations of a family’s legacy or last name, or should it be a consideration factor when regarding family status in a community. The strengths of a family are measured in how well they are bonded to one another by love and loyalty– not by guidlines determined by society or belief. True love of a parent comes form accepting everything about their child— and editing out the dislikes they may have is not an option on a check-off list of “accessory items”. Society plays the biggest role in all of our lives, and many times, has taught us the bigotry that has become inbred in each of us for any given situation where bias can be present. It’s up to us now—a new generation of thinkers, to individualize our beliefs, and seperate our taught prejudices from the rights all of us have in society to be just that— individuals. in fact, it’s not just a right, it’s a plan… a plan that has been mapped out for each of us by that stonger power I mentioned earlier. If we truly want the world to be a better place, and we want to follow the example so many people of religion claim is the “right” path, then we need to reevaluate ourselves in society and let the “plan” run it’s natural course as HE intended. The road is alot less bumpy for everyone when “HE” is the only one holding the steering wheel, you know?

I grew up with Mark and I am so proud of him. I am happy to see him in a healthy relationship and they look so cute together. and you guys are all crazy obsessing over his age. We were born on exactly the same day and he is not 18. Not to mention his maturity level is way beyond his years, it has always been. And his eyes are perfect. No WONK eye at all. Mark is so gorgeous and if you were to know him in real life you would find him a thousand times more attractive. Mark, I’m stoked for you. Way to go.

he is, in fact, quite young…and I met him a few weeks ago (his roommate is a friend of mine). lemme tell you: he is just as cute/adorable in person!! but, above all that stuff is who he is and what he has accomplished…especially at such a young age. it’s people like him who inspire others to do good things.

IN RESPONSE TO #67: i know nothing of these “circumstances” that you seem to be so wrapped up in…but do you have a f*cking life?!?!? Are you seriously sitting at home and “discussing” all this stuff with your “friends”?!?!? Do you NOT have a job?? Better yet: do you NOT have a LIFE OF YOUR OWN?!?!? You spend all your time pondering/questioning other people’s lives??
Yes, I sort of contradict myself by being on this site and typing up this response…but I just happened to stumble upon this site after having met Mark…and i am by no means spending precious moments of my life enthralled by someone else’s life. Do us a favor and GET A LIFE.

okay I was the problem. I love him so much. Idid not give him the attention in the important years. Yes, I am a Christian. I am sorry for the time I did not listen to you mark. Please forgive my ignorance. I am more open today than you know. Ijust want dialogue. Dad

To dwayne wolfe and yes I am marks dad. The Christian part means that I am a Christ follower. It does’nt mean that I get it all right. Christ is the example of unconditional love. I’m trying to do that with mark. I too believe that we will have dialogue some day on his terms. There is no doubt that mark is an amazing person . He always has been. As far as he be tossed out and not given much……. there are always two sides to every story. As a parent with other children , you learn to die on certain hills, not all of them. Thank you for your comments.God has given me this opportunity to grow and I know I can do all things through Christ who strenghtens me Phil. 4:13 yours truly

Mr Cornelsen.

I’ve read your comments, and I wanted to further communicate with you in regards to this matter, as there a few more things that I wanted to say to you.

I’m hearing what you say, but there are other ways that we, as gay members of society see situations like this that you need to be exposed to that I don’t hink you see..

One, in regards to being a parent… I believe that all parents feel they do the best they can with their children… by keeping a roof over their heads, food on the table, and in trying to give them the finer things n life… (materialistic or other). Children are a parent’s greatest joy. And you know sir, we as children know that… we really do. And becasue we do know that, we are afraid to disappoint out parents by doing something that they will look badly at us for, or something that will change how they feel towards us.

As I’m sure you realize, and have experienced in your life at one time or another with your own parents, is a simple phrase that EVERY child has heard for EVERY parent… “you can come to me with anything”. We as children truly believe that… To us, we know that “Mom and Dad” will not forsake us becasue they love us regardless of what we tell them. “Mom and Dad” will understand because that’s who they are to us… “Mom and Dad”.. right?…

Imagine if you will then– knowing that you inevidably uttered that phrase to your son at some point in his life— as mine had done, how “bare naked” and “stripped down to nothing” he felt knowing that he was going to be coming to you with the one thing that would make him feel the most vulnerable… Do you know what that’s like? It’s like walking into a crowded ampitheater of over 250,000 people who are all looking at you with high-powered binoculars… only to discover that you are walking around with 35 to 40 feet of soiled toilet paper stuck to the backside of your britches.. Except for one thing… that it’s TEN TIMES worse… because you are coming to the two people who are the most important people in your life… afraid to disappoint them, afraid that they’ll hate you, and hoping that the phrase “you can come to me with anything” will kick in full-force at that moment and you will throw your arms around us… cradling us like you did when we were infants, telling us that everything will be all right, and that you love us anyway…

Can you understand this, Mr. Cornelsen?

And as far as there being anotherside to the story of “tossing him out”… I’m quite certain that the implied was not that you took Mark by the scruff of the collar and physically THREW him into the street. But what you have to understand is that there is more than one way to exempt a child from your life…. making him feel outcast and isolated. If a child feels as though they have dissapointed their parents, family, and community, they feel isolated— especially if this disapproval was vocalized. We feel shocked, upset, embarrassed, and a hundred other emotions all at the same time. In turn, it is only human nature to seek a comfort zone elsewhere… much like a “runt puppy” would do when he is continuously attacked and shoved off by his sibblings surrounding a food dish. This is what Mark did when he turned to friends— and it’s what I did when I went into isolation 20 years ago… living in my car in the cold of the winter. We sought comfort zones where we found acceptance without ridiclule..

Mark moving to California to persue college and a new life, and me doing the same through struggle in a different day and age… either way you look at it, we were in one in the same in this regard, and we weren’t going to look back to our family regardless of what happened to us— becasue we were left the feeling that we dissapointed the two people that told us that “we could tell them anything” and it was better to succeed or fail on our own, rather than accept help from our family who felt less of us than they had previously.

You know, sir, you are tell me here on this post how much you love Mark, and how you agree that he is amazing and that he had always been. That’s great, but if I may give you some advice, please, don’t tell me… tell him. Don’t make the same mistakes my parents made with me… I’ve spent a lifetime trying to make my parents proud of me… writing cover stories for magazines, doing well in my job, buying a new house… etc… etc… , only to realize that no matter what I did, “son, we’re proud of you” is the one thing that at 39 years old, I have as of yet to ever hear from them…

Sure, like you and your wife, you have an “open door policy” where you’ll accept Mark at any time, but this is where you could be waiting a lifetime. It’s not about “leaving the door open for him”, it’s about YOU going to HIM, on HIS turf.. where he feels comfortable, and trying to reconcile form there. You where San Francisco is, right? Go to him, instead… you’ll be the better for it.

I hope this helps you

Mr. Cornelsen,

“Red neck carpernters from Fernadale”…. hilarious!!! It makes me laugh; because people— from both sides of the fence—- can be stereotypical. I am actually a country bumpking myself, who works as a cabinetmaker by trade, and as a writer as a sideline. In fact my actress friend from Toronto called me today and thanked me for mentioning in the cover story I had written for her, about being a script supervisor for the film industry, as she can use that to her advantage with the Port Authority to work in Chicago…. so tonight, I’m in a good mood!

And as far as small town living, and stereotyping one’s way of living… if you think you are small town.. I’ve something to tell you of me. For me, home is a 36 foot Park Model camping trailer which is deep in the woods on the backside of a mountain in central Pennsylvania. I carry water from about 5 miles away in the winter (water is shut off here in winter) to supply my trailer’s holding tank so I can cook, shower, wash my clothes, etc…. I don’t drive a new sporty car… in fact, I wouldn’t trade my 1991 Blazer that I beat through the woods for the finest Rolls Royce in th world.

As far as clothes.. I’m not an Armani person… I’d rather wear my Levi’s, t-shirts, workboots, and ballcaps… And you know, that’s me—- a far cry from what one may typically expect from the average homosexual man. So you see, we can all get the wrong idea about a person, and judge accordingly without knowing all there is to know about people and situations. That’s the weekness we all face as humans— judging before “know”. Through it, we live and learn.

For me, church was always a country one… much like you would remember from “Little House on the Prairie”…. where people were simple and expectations were few. I was raised Methodist, although today— when I go at all, I prefer the non-denominational, as I feel if one is to believe in God, then all groups should be able to worship in the manner they see fit without feeling one religous belief is correct over another.

As far as approaching Mark— you’re his father, you do what you feel is best for you— and handle it in any way you wish. All I am saying is that sometimes it’s not the best decision to “wait until later”, as time has a way of creating greater distance in uncomfortable situations. Sometimes the best approach comes head on and quickly… you know? I don’t know Mark, and I do not know if he is indeed self-centered or not… but either way, I’m sure that the distance is something that he thinks about, and I’m sure it bothers him somewhat— how could it not?

And as for meeting TR? If Mark is indeed self-centered with anything, then TR would be who/what he would be exercising that feeling in regards to. It’s simple… it’s a new relationship…with a remarkable man. That’s an incredible responsibility for such a young man as Mark to deal with. You said it yourself…. Mark is 19. And although this classifies him as an adult, he truly hasn’t lived yet… and his life is just beginning. He needs to test his wings— I did— you did— and now, it’s his turn… his time. Once he lives a little… and once you have the opportunity to talk, I’m sure that things will iron themselves out— regardless of the long-term outcome for him and TR Knight. Just know, that personally— althoug you may disagree with me on this point, TR is good for him… because he’s giving Mark a positive tole model to follow. Do you understand?

“Jerks of my past?”— as you’ve stated. Sure, there were many— not just how my family was back in ‘87… but through those life experiences, I’ve matured and grown into the man I am today—- they call that the “school of hard knocks”…. haha. And sometimes, for some people, that is greatest teacher. For me, it taught me survival…

Would I be able to live in the woods and carry water in the winter otherwise? hahahaha.

Be well,

Dwayne

Nellie… you’re right. There are two sides to every story, and yes, the Cornelsen’s seem like very pleasant people. In fact, I personally had a lovely conversation with Mrs. Cornelsen— (Mark’s mother) over the telephone yesterday. She’s a very nice lady… and in fact, I shared with her my experiences of “coming out” with my parents, and she stated to me ‘God works in mysterious ways.. I kept praying for someone to come into our lives to help us with trying to get through to Mark”. And you know, it made me feel good to talk with her, becasue it made me remember how things were with me and my parents over twenty years ago when coming out was even harder than it is today.

Mark needs to realize just how fortunate he is actually— he DOES have a set of parents who love him very much, and all they want to do is make amends and have a dialogue with him. He IS rejecting them btw… as he is his entire family… which has been confirmed and is not just a mere rumor here on THIS post or OTHERWISE, just as he has rejected every single email I have ever sent him— whether it be this situation, or something entirely different. Aparrently, that’s the way he wants to be about it right now… and if so, too bad for him.

But you know something? I’ve got news for Mark… I have every intention of continuing my conversations and contact with his parents— even if he doesn’t, because they are really nice people who only wish to understand this situation— and since I’ve lived it, I’ll be more than happy to help them through this… even though their own son is refusing to do so.

And as gay man myself, having been treated very nicely— AND QUITE RESPECTFULLY I MIGHT ADD, by his family—- I will continue my mission to help assure that dialogue of some kind occurs, because that is what a good person does for good people!

It is amazing though… how I can see this wonderful family falling apart from so far away, and know the pain that’s on both sides… It hurts me too you know… I mean, I spilled my guts to a kid I didn’t even know— just wanting to help him. Imagine how it was for me to tell him about how I once lived in my car— sustaining myself on ketchup and crackers, homeless at 18, AFRAID to come out– no one to trust or talk to… dwindling down to 90 pounds… Something, huh?

No imagine how much an ASS if felt like after telling him all that only to get “no response” in return? I’m sorry, but what kind of person does that?? A person WHO DOESN’T CARE, that’s who. That kid? Oh yeah, it was Mark Cornelsen… believe it or not.. I’ve got my proof. I also have the newly established friendship with his parents too… and you know, after “bearing my all” to him like that, I have to admit that only a self-centered individual would reject response from the type of letter I’d sent.

If any of you reading this post would like to se that letter, just let me know. Contact me with your email address, and I will be more than happy to send it your way. You be the judge of that situation..

Alot more than meets the eye?? Oh yeah… there’s a world of information yet to be discovered in this situation. I’m sure of that.

I for one find all of this to be rather ridiculous. As a member of Mark’s family it hurts to see the lies and rumors around the internet. Regardless if it is the internet or not, it hurts to see our family made out to be some kind of crazy bunch of Jesus freaks, when that is extremely far from the truth.

It hurts even more to be Mark’s LESBIAN cousin and to have little to no relationship with him. It hurts to know that I have made attempts to talk to him and contact him and have little to no response back. Now you would think that we’d be allies in this sort of situation considering we’re both on the same team, right? Well that obviously isn’t the case. I’m going to go ahead and assume the reasoning is for the mere fact that I am part of this family he holds this immense grudge against.

The fact of the matter is everything that went down in the beginning was not rainbows and unicorns and bubblegum, but the family has grown through not only the experience of Mark coming out, but from also the experience of me coming out (I am an older cousin and came out after Mark). Yea, it’s rough for them to be face to face with an issue that they felt very strong in their hearts about. It’s really difficult when you test your beliefs and you’re actually faced with a real life situation like this. It’s scary and the initial reaction makes people do and say a lot of stupid things, but people learn with time.

The family as a whole is accepting of me and my sexuality and my relationship and I’m 100% certain that they would do the same for Mark. Hell, they even offered my girlfriend a place to stay if she came and visited in Washington. All they want is a chance, an opportunity to make things better, but he won’t even give them the time of day.

Mr. Cornelsen—

I wish to thank you for a wonderful and enlightening telephone conversation this evening. I really appreciated having the opportunity to see your views on things. You truly are a very caring individual, and it is a shame that your son Mark, is missing out on that. I only wish that now, having had our conversation, that someone as kind and lighthearted as you was around 20 years ago for me— when I came out. At least then, I would have felt that I would have had someone worthwhile to talk to… a different insight, and a different viewpoint.

It’s true, you and I aren’t the same, but I am coming to discover that in being “accepted” one has to be willing to see multiple views of situations— this includes the viewpoints of you and your family. Afterall, if we are to have acceptance in this world, then we have to be open to objective and contrasting viewpoints—- and the only way to do that is to have an— as you say, “open dialogue”. Thank you again for a wonderfula nd educating conversation, and I certainly hope you get enough sleep for performing well at your job tomorrow.

And oh… one more thing… not to bring the aspect of “GOD” into the discussion… but I’m thanking him now for the the fact that I have free Nationwide long distance— as did you realize we talked for an hour and a half? LOL!

I hope my information helped you this evening, and reagrds to you and your family.

Take care,

Dwayne

Something isn’t right about this Mark Cornelsen. He doesn’t look like a kid who was abused by his parents to me. I think he lied to get himself someplace. I think the authorities should check his background.

dear bugged just let it go. I am trying my hardest to be honest and not drive a wedge between mark and I. I do not want anyone to be blamed for stuff we can all be forgiven for. Believe me I have said enough dumb things to hurt my family to last a lifetime.

I’m not suprized. He looks like a liar and is too well kept to suffered much. He’s acting and putting on a big show. I can see it too. The public should start asking questions. I’ll bet he’s using TR too.

marks a good guy, his family is a good family, no one has a clue what the reality of the situation is because it is no one elses reality. i think that this is being really dragged out, marks parents have had their say on here, it is clear that it was not all rainbows and butterflies but seriously what family is perfect all the time? So maybe it’s time to move ON let mark do his thing, and stop going on a damn witch hunt. people are doing WAY to much assuming and you know what it means to assume…you make an ass out of u and me so HA suckas

If you ask me, Mark should high-tail it back to Ferndale. I think I heard his mom calling him for dinner. Mark is so inapt in the celeb circle. He just looks out of place and doesn’t fit in. Alex Brightman would be a much more suitable candidate as TR Knight’s boyfriend, and he’s much better for TR than this little trifling mooch.

Isn’t it funny with all this talk, Mark is not surfacing to defend his claim? I followed the thread and it looks like he may have posted once under “MC” but with all that’s been talked about here, you’d think that he’d surface. His silence only makes him appear guilty. And with his parents being on here, you can tell he is purposely avoiding them. I’m wondering if someone in seats of power would find this thread of postings interesting? Maybe people should direct this post to someone.

bugged, a) i don’t have kids, but i’m pretty damn certain i would not encourage my future children to lie to get further in life, its not something i myself have ever done and i’m doing okay so i would have no reason to tell them to. b) if you are so passionate about this go tell the media or whoever the hell else will listen instead of leaving it on this stupid website c) i’m not one for getting into arguments with strangers on the internet, yes i can understand what you are saying but you in no way change my mind. just as i do not change yours so stop trying because it isn’t going to happen d) go ahead and shoot off some pissed off reply back but its going to go unanswered by me because frankly i don’t care what you have to say, waaaay to much thought it going into this forum. like i said earlier if you really care so much go spread the word about this great injustice you believe has occured, otherwise you are putting way to much thought and energy into something that is going to take you no where. it is done so no more dear stellas please i’m over it

Well, it’s like this “Stella”… until you own the post listed here, it’s a free forum, so I’ll voice my opinion, and facts thereof, as I see fit to, just as everyone else has done here. I will say that your methods of the typed script do have a ring of familiarity however—with the double-posts, the regional catch-phrazes, and all the other idiosyncroses that any moron with a first-grade education could pick-up on. But in keeping with giving you the benefit of the doubt of anonymity, we’ll just keep it at your chosen, “Stella”, ok? It would seem that the only one getting “hot under the collar” here would be you, but what I can’t seem to figure out is if that would be because the topic struck a nerve with you, or perhaps the phraze “absence makes the heart grow fonder” does not apparently apply in this situation. Which would be the case, “Stella”? As far as putting too much thought into this subject— you’re damn right! The standing fact is that “IF” there is questionable behavior in this situation, it’s only natural that one would want to see justice done. Anyone would. I am no different in this situation– as many deserving individuals could be deprived opportunity. I was apprized this situation as that of anyone else— in the open forum here, and if you, “speciffically”, have issue with that and care to only acknowledge commendation of the color of Mark’s hair, the whiteness of his teeth, and the “going’s on” of his growth chart over the past 19 years— grab a baby book and a photo album, because this is not a case of “sentimental journey” I. or anyone else here really much care about. If indeed he did lie or exxagerate the truth, that’s on his conscience and sooner or later it will catch up with him and/or those people who “harbor” the facts. And as for myself telling the media and it not getting me anywhere— I wouldn’t waste my time concerning myself with that, as in your case, as much as I would be practicing my mentos of the “graile” if nuance of beckoning callers came knocking. You get my point?

“Nuff said.”

Speak the truth and shame the word,
the Devil’s voice must not be heard.
For lies of breath two tales are told,
two souls of evil bargained and sold.
For it’s He who knows the angelic rhyme
of truths held high thoughout all time.
Two souls can run, two souls can hide,
but let the word of truth abide.
Father and son bed down together,
enduriing the woes of stormy weather.
But in the end diversion will tatter,
revealing truth… and lies will shatter!

He who speaks words of weak,
lives a life of hide and seek.
In a shallow grave of sorrow and woe,
in misfortune he wallows to and fro.
For it is not the love he misses today,
but the cover of deceit now blown away.
So in the wake of dispair he offers a plea,
a show of compassion to you and me.
A martar of time a martar of sin,
the devil’s son comes marching in.
And by his hand he built a home,
a mansion of torture… the size of Rome.

You know something, Dan… I have a few things to say to you before you “bow out” of this situation and run from it. ( All you haters listen up– and say what you want about me because I really don’t give a ****). The first thing that totally amazes me is that you can make the statement “I have nothing to be ashamed of… and I’m quite homophobic” in the space of three short sentences without any remorse at all. Secondly, instead of going directly to Mark at his college University, you and your family chose to come here– in this webpage and stake your claims of “love and devotion”, in front of the world, basically. Then, in the same breath, you turn around and berrade remarks about how he refuses contact, never replies, and doesn’t care. How the HELL do you expect him to react? And do you know something else, Dan? Out of all people who have visited this post, not one person cared enough to offer you support and a shoulder to “boo-hoo” on during this whole mess you are in— well, except ONE person… that’s right, the “*****”, the “***”, the “homo” from Pennsylvania… ME, who felt compelled to actually take the time out of my life to quite literally call you at your residence, and listen to you rant your claims. Coming to you was something that I felt– having gone through the situation as you and Mark— was what I told you it was, simply an experienced ear to offer you and your bigoted way of speaking, an extended hand of friendship and compassion. And do you know what I got in return for that?? An evasion, a doubt, a blunt act of denial afterwards like I was some invasion to your otherwise “perfect” way of thinking. Your whole entire family looked at me like I was some villian— instead of an ally from the public who gave a **** enough to come forward…. So you know what, Dan?— you can be the coward now, and back out of this whole thing and walk away… and avoid Mark, and sidestep the whole thing just like you have been doing all along— or you can put some BALLS behind your bragging of the macho image of a “man” you paint yourself to be and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! I want to remind me of something that you told me in our hour and a half telephone conversation… “I’ll pray for you, Dwayne.. I’ll pray that you discover the true love of Jesus Christ.. his unconditional love, and one day you will find love and total happiness with someone…” Don’t you think I knew what you meant by that? YOU MEANT a WOMAN! THAT’S what you meant, damnit, do NOT deny it. Well, I have news for you, Mister… It just so happens that I have had a very loving and successful relationship with a MAN for the past 5 years… who is successful in banking, and is every bit the man that anyone could want— but you spent so much time ranting in the adverse of what it was you wanted to say, that you never even asked me what my relationship status was… Well, there it is. And am I happy? Yes, I am.. and I have far less problems than what you are experiencing in your life right now. Having enough GALL and BALLS to bravely pick up the telephone and call your family and offer support is something that I felt very proud to do.. and if your family feels SOOOO invaded by it, they should have thought of that before they posted many remarks— sometimes even “snide” ones under alias, on this God forsaken post! If you don’t want support and cannot accept the fact that sometimes negative commendation in the public forum sometimes occurs, don’t ask for it— and do just what you do so well— RUN…. RUN from the situation, and PRAY it away. Yeah, right, Dan, that’ll fix everything… (Ok.. all you haters.. now’s your chance.. RIP me apart and tell me how BAD I am for standing firm ground and saying something… Unlike others, I can take it.)

Good luck to you Dan, and remember something— see if anyone else out there calls your home and offers support form this post. I’ll bet not… but know that this “***” won’t be offering it again. You’re a big man… you have it all under contol.

LATER!

dan, i would totally come to your defense here but honestly we all know who the bigger person is…so dwayne continue having conversations with yourself because clearly you post under many different names (and you’ve said so yourself on other posts). this has really become entertaining

yeah.. that’s right, vanish… disappear, damn the monster… whatever.. but you see, when MY phone rings here, it’s my parents calling to see how I am doing. When was the last time that Mark experienced that? When will he experience it again? The bigger person? I’d rather be a mouse (if that’s what your implying) with a big voice and something to say behind it, than a towering shell of a man who hides behind himself. You see, I am not afraid of opinion of me.. that’s the difference. I really don’t care. Society and “pride” don’t dictate my existance.

They so cute and a perfect couple,whereever T.R.KNIGHT is older than MARK but T.R.KNIGHT is look like younger and cute….

I went to school with Mark at Ferndale High School. ******’ rad dude.

Good to hear he’s doing so well.

Crazies… and you’re kind of opinionated about people you know nothing about. Afraid of the real name, eh? I’m just passionate about this issue, Mark’s plight, and I have this dislike towards liars… If that makes me crazy, I’m proud of that! Thanks for the compliment!

BUZZZZZZZ…. cccccccrrrraaaakkkk…. zzzzz… ZAP!!! Sorry… my brain shorted out for a minute…. (that happens to us mentally challenged and crazy people from time to time). Food for thought….

cra’ zee: (definition) as a verb. 1). the abitlity for one to act in a bizarre fashion. 2). to behave in an unusual manner. 3) the willingness of one to travel over 3000 miles from ones homestate with 5000 or so posters with the intent of plastering every telephone pole, storefront, and business window in a small community with degrading facts about a group of people never previously known to the public. 4) the continuance of pushing ones buttons, knowing all too well that if it continues, definition (3) will be an inevidible occurrence.

friends with mark? Isn’t that like falling into a snake pit?

Well, I think Mark Cornelsen sounds and acts exactly like a stereotypical, caricaturized version of what “normal” society thinks homosexuals should sound/act like. It’s sad. Who cares, really, that he was put out at 16? So what? Grow up, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps, and try and make it in the world. It looks to me like he’s riding on the coattails of Mr. Knight, wearing faux-witty shirts that say things like “We All Have AIDS”. Well, don’t all have AIDS. We “all” don’t make decisions where hormones cause our common sense to be overrided by lust and stupidity. There are those of us who are “normal” homosexuals who can have fun and not lose sight of their objective sensibilities, and who do not get AIDS. Mr. Knight, I hope you get rid of the gold-digging, whiny, not-witty and not cute lisping little boy who sees, as most egotistical and self-centered twinks do, that they have found their very own Horatio Alger “benefactor”, or in more modern terms, their “sugar daddy”. I hope Mr. Knight doesn’t succumb to that sort of shallowness. Trade that “trade” in for a better sort of partner/husband/whatever! Oh, I’d like to add that him using Matthew Shepherd as a springboard for his “altruistic” attitude towards politics and the gay community: stop using that one incident as a means of exposing yourself to the public. Stop using Matthew Shepherd as a martyr for your false concern for the “gay” public. Not every gay man or wo-man is a victim or becomes a victim and the real measure of gaining respect for yourself as a gay man/wo-man in society is by acting/talking and letting others perceive you as somone respectful, not just being another stereotypical, feminized version of a man that deserves public scorn/pity/rejection. Try promoting monogamy or less dependenance on drugs/alcohol and dirty book stores in the gay community, which would help reduce HIV/AIDS transmission and promote a sense of normalcy on par with heterosexual society. Oh, and drop the lisp! It’s hurting your credibility!

It seems that this site was a little slow so someone had to push the drunk dad homo hater button. wow intolerable tolerance.

hypocrite from the greek it means actor or one who affects virtues or qualities he or she does not have. lets make sure that we are tolerant of all lifestyles even conservative ones, if we are going to call ourselves open. if we all have aids then so does ferndale man and marks dad. taking a stand on issues and differing in an idea or lifestyle from a family member does not have to separate the whole. this will all work itself out when mark grows up a bit and his dad learns to listen to him.

Actually, I think Eric hit the nail on the head with Mark. I have been following his actions, and I see patterns with him that are so phony. My only hope is that TR wakes up and realizes that this little twit and his whole– entire screwed up family of psychotics, are only after him for the fame, glory, and the money. As far as I am concerned— they are all nothing more than glorified trash.

Yeah they’re kinda cute together, but …well let’s see, the chicken hawk finally landed, such a typical hollywood power play, the older and more established men get the chicks, or in this case the chicken. I guess there is some equality afterall- with fame and fortune you can bag anybody, regardless how much younger they are.

Eric, the truth is that most of the time, homosexuals who are “put out” into the street because of their identity, SELDOM are so free to admit to it. It happened to me, actually.. and I was not flauntacious, but rather, just discovered by my Grandfather who had many prejudices. Mostly, it’s self-identifying shame, embarassment, indifference, etc, that causes a “bottling up” affect. What Mark did was use his circumstance to gain popularity in gay society— along with using the public “dollar” to gain the funding for his college eduacation through the Point/ Matthew Shepard Foundation. Mark’s own father told me “personally”, that Mark was nothing more than a “Drama Queen” who always felt he needed to be in the spotlight. He was an incourageable teen who used to sneak out his bedroom window at night to see his boyfriend— also told to me by his father. What you must bear in mind is that in order to get college funding though these Foundations, one must show ostracation, abuse/neglect/disadvantagement of some kind. Well, excuse me— but I hardly call a person’s parents paying for two trips during high school— one to Australia, the other to France, a kid who is disadvantaged in any way, do you?

And fraudulence? Well, the fact that Mark’s parents have college funds set aside for all their kids—including Mark, one of the biggest cases of fraud against a Foundation of good cause as I have ever seen! What do you think?

I mean, think of it… All of us in the public donate to charity—THINKING that we are doing a good thing for someone who really needs it— only to be duped by an IDIOT like Mark. Meanwhile, “Sammy nearly beaten to death by so-and-so” needing the avenue out, ISN’T getting it! Fair? And then he gets “conveniently” SHOVED under the nose of one of the kindest gay men known in present time.. “AKA TR Knight”… only to thumb his nose at all of us and bear odasity to say “SUCKAS!!”

Mark preaches his message of tolerance.. but yet he knows NOT anyting of what he speaks– he has never exparienced the pain and sorrow so many of us have in our lifetimes… You’re right, Eric… about everything… Mark is nothing more than a user who has conned everyone into placing him into a very cosy situation for himself– but at the same time, a very DANGEROUS and potentially devistating situation for TR Knight.

It’s disgusting! He is the true meaning of “PIG”.. and I don’t care anymore who knows it! And as far as his parents? The y can go to HELL as far as I am concerned— because they told me to keep my mouth shut about what I was told by them and you know?— THAT’S WRONG… and now, my mouth is wide open and LOUD! It’s not right what he has done, and I will tell all I know. I have my phone bill reciepts to prove the phone call, and that’s all the evidence I need to dtake my claims to speaking to Mark’s father.

And by the way… while I was talking to Mark’s father– he actually referred to Mark as a “snake-oil” salesman… which I would suppose means that Mark is a smooth talking con artist who could sell the moon as a ball of cheese or something.

Mark ran away from home, actually, Eric. He wasn’t tossed out as he claims. His father said that he up and left one day—stripping the house of his belongings, and when he and his wife returned home one day– Mark was gone! Hmmm… ostracated? Yeah, right Mark… sell the public another one of your damn lies….

There is so much more to say… and you know what? I hope this whole mess ends up in the court room. I really do, because it will do my heart good to see the whole Cornelsen family fry for the crap they are letting their son get away with— and then telling me to “hush” about it.

Remember that, Dan? (Mark’s father). Mark’s a snibbling little coward… uses everyone for everything and I will relish in the day I can see him get his just desserts for the advantage he has taken of the Foundations at hand, and all the person who probably didn’t get his deserving hand in the “sponsor pool” like he should have!

hmmmm. amazing how quiet the forum becomes whan the truth comes tumbling out? Wonder where the opposition ran off to?…

To Dwane Wolfe:

I agree with many of your comments, but you are a little off base with some of them. I take it you have never personally met any members of the Cornelson family, including Mark. That’s why I wonder why you feel so qualified to judge him or his behavior. You don’t know him at all. I have met him and his family and I feel that I know them quite well and watched Mark grow up. Mark has a heart of gold, was very well liked by everyone that ever met him, was a straight A student, worked hard as a waiter while going to school to help fund his OWN trips, and is a worldly-wise kid who has a lot of determination to make something of himself. He is a sincere, honest person, not the evil person using another to gain fame and fortune that you think he is. I’m sure he is still immature and a novice at love since I believe this is only his second boyfriend. Though he wasn’t technically thrown out, he left his parents house under duress and great stress. They wanted him to get “cured” of homosexuality through religious means and conferences. Anything short of that was unacceptable and he felt he had to leave in order to survive and maintain his sanity. He has been living on his own since a very early age and probably did qualify for his scholarship because of that. Knowing him, I believe he is trying to use his new-found fame to further the cause for gay rights, not a bad thing by any means. Both of his parents have good hearts. They just can’t function well in the gay world with their religious beliefs and unless they reject their religion, they feel that they have to reject homosexuality. I am a straight man who had great loving parents and grew up in a very traditional midwestern home, so I do not personally know what either his parents or Mark are going through in dealing wih these religious or gay issues. Dwayne, it sounds like you do seem to understand many of those issues, but your hostility toward people you do not know is growing rather old. I guess I simply don’t understand why you are so negative toward Mark when you really don’t know him at all. I can understand your hostility toward his parents, but one phone call doesn’t mean you know them, either.

Hi Fernadale man…

I appreciate your comments. And you are right about a couple of things. No, I have not personally met the Cornelsen family, and I have spoken to both of Mark’s parents on the telephone actually. They seemed nice enough— well, at first, but I gathered my opinion by the facts that were told me, by them. The mere fact that they chose to come into the open AND public forum in the beginning says something about their credibility…. a great lack of it.

Desperation to cover one’s tracks of wrong doing, or perhaps trying to recruit members of the public into their twisted way of thinking is what was at stake, actually— and was made painstakingly obvious by Mark’s father who was all too content to babble on about the wrong things that Mark had done. He himself, described Mark as a “snake-oil salesman”. I use quotation marks around the phrase because those were his EXACT words, and not just merely something I am suggesting. I could go on and on about all the things he actually told me about Mark, but who has that kind of time. You yourself stated taht Dan drank heavily in the basement daily…. so honestly, as yours (I’m assuming you’ve seen this) my opinion is based on fact, and not bitter hostility as you suggest.

I’m sure Mark worked as a kid.. no one is denying that fact… however, when his own parents talk about the college funds they have set aside for all their children– including Mark, this is where the hostility begins with me as far as Mark is concerned. What you also have to bear in mind is that Mark’s Dad told me about the extravagance in both “dress” and in gift giving Mark had gone to when he appeared at their home in Fernadale this past Christmas. Upset? Sure I am! Bear in mind… this is a kid who is SUPPOSED to be having a major struggle with multiple jobs, college tuition, etc… Come on now, where does the “pity” end, and the “reasonable thinking” begin?

About Mark… I know MArk a bit better than you or anyone else in this forum thinks I do. Mark knows EXACTLY who I am, and he knows EXACTLY what the choke-hold is that I have that keeps him steering clear of me, each and every time I am on this message board. Don’t you get it? With all I have said thus far on this board… which has been far louder and more informative than any other poster.. if I didn’t know Mark a little better than you think I do, whouldn’t he barge in an defend himself or deny alligations? Right…. So you see my point.

Mark is far from being a saint… good heart or not. There is a side to Mark that I know, don’t like, and he knows what I mean.. so that’s all that matters. I also have friends in the film industry… so as for the goings on with Mark from time to time… I know enough. And you know?— it ain’t all peaches and cream.

Let’s just leave it at that for the moment.

who really cares? leave mark alone. let him live his life and do what he wants. his parents were a**holes about him being gay. of course they will still love him and such but that doesn’t matter. they cant handle him being gay. he was REJECTED by them in this situation. maybe he wasnt kicked out or told “move out of this house” but by rejecting him and not accepting him and stuff its basically creating a wall, a barrier between them and you feel your only choice would be to leave. im guessing thats what he means by getting thrown out. and dont get me wrong, i had mrs cornelsen as a teacher and she is wonderful but everyone has flaws. her and mr cornelsen not accepting gays and marks flaw to them is being gay. stop hatin on mark! stop hatin on his family! and by the way to agree with some of the people on here mark is very mature for his age and he is really nice. WAIT til you meet him before you JUDGE him. ok i said my 2 cent now everyone continue to argue about pointless stuff that wont really make a difference.

wow i cant believe all the gossip on this guy lol.

Hello Mark’s Mom, Dad, and Dwayne from Penn! I am a celebrity reporter for a national magazine and quite fascinated by your discussion here. Is there any way that you could email me to discuss it further? You can reach me at lafayette.ronald@yahoo.com if you’re interested. I know there are always two sides to every story, and I’d love to hear yours.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Thanks!

Nice talking to you recently “celebrity reporter”. It was refreshing to know that after I foollowed up on your identity, that you were in fact, REAL. Yes… quite the little situation with Mark Cornelsen and his…uh hem, “family”, eh? I wanted you to know that I have more information for you regarding Mark and his recent college orientation if you would like to include that with the article your tab is planning on running on the little “snake in the grass”… Feel free to contact me anytime at my email which is dennistrox@aol.com. Or you may phone me at the nuber I gave you and your exectutives during initial contact.

Dwayne :)

i think the main topic of concern at this point is wherther or not Mark has legitimacy to his claims of being marginalized due his sexuality. It’s a personal issue now, and alot of people are not happy with the suspicion.

HEY! There’s a rumor on Imdb that implies that TR may be considering another boyfriend. Some YEAR 40 year old anyone seen it? Is it true?

A good man is hard to find. I didn’t know TR Knight before and I still don’t watch Grey’s Anatomy much. When I saw him a couple o’ times on tv is thought he was a straight man. Wow. But I’m happy for the two of them, it boosts the image of gay relationships.

They are both so hot!! O.M.G!!
Thank god his family tried to mend the relationship. Ive seen wat can happen. My best friend got bashed by his dad and then got kicked out!! i so hate his dad!!!

I think that what they are doing is wrong in the sight of God and man and they should be ashamed of yourself. But i will keep on praying for them.

In an earlier post I misspelled Jepsen, Roger. This is the correct spelling.

“Jepson” is incorrect.

Even spelling his name correctly, the more interesting parts of his life I could not find. You surfing geeks could try Washington Post/Roger Jepson. This would give you an indication of his character. Naturally, soon after that episode he was forced out of government, became a “born again Christian” and contributed to the writing of a book. (religious, of course) a la Chuck Colson.

The “incident” that got him booted from the Lt Governor’s offce was many times more humorous.

Who am I, Roger? I am the cab driver that took you and the “dancer” from Sasto’s on 6th Ave to the Hotel Ft Des Moines. What bugged me most was the way the Des Moines Register sold itself out to the political power that is even stronger today at compromising public officials. A reporter was there but the happening was hushed up by all. This happened back around 1968 to 1971. And remember the apartment, 2nd floor, on Grand ave? Somewhere between 28th(?) St and 33rd? If you independent news hounds want to know the full story, ask the venerated Robert D Ray, who was governor at the time. Get there quickly (Marshalltown? Cedar Rapids?) — the politicos w/b “counselling” Mr. Ray.

Oh yippee… another “gay” couple being crammed down our throats. People, being “gay” is a sexual preference, not a lifestyle. If people who ‘do’ animals were inspired by the homosexual community, we’d be witnessing ‘animal husbandry’ in a new and very unnecessary light.

Keep your sexual “needs” in the closet, or at least behind closed doors. Nobody CARES if you have a sexual preference one way or another…

Oh, and I hate to say it, but I have now officially stopped being a fan of T.R. Knight. I loved his acting, but hate his morals and lifestyle choices and don’t want my own kids to have to be exposed to it just because someone (else) has decided it’s necessary…

Enough is enough.