Mark Cornelsen: T.R. Knight’s New Boyfriend

yeah.. that’s right, vanish… disappear, damn the monster… whatever.. but you see, when MY phone rings here, it’s my parents calling to see how I am doing. When was the last time that Mark experienced that? When will he experience it again? The bigger person? I’d rather be a mouse (if that’s what your implying) with a big voice and something to say behind it, than a towering shell of a man who hides behind himself. You see, I am not afraid of opinion of me.. that’s the difference. I really don’t care. Society and “pride” don’t dictate my existance.

They so cute and a perfect couple,whereever T.R.KNIGHT is older than MARK but T.R.KNIGHT is look like younger and cute….

I went to school with Mark at Ferndale High School. ******’ rad dude.

Good to hear he’s doing so well.

Crazies… and you’re kind of opinionated about people you know nothing about. Afraid of the real name, eh? I’m just passionate about this issue, Mark’s plight, and I have this dislike towards liars… If that makes me crazy, I’m proud of that! Thanks for the compliment!

BUZZZZZZZ…. cccccccrrrraaaakkkk…. zzzzz… ZAP!!! Sorry… my brain shorted out for a minute…. (that happens to us mentally challenged and crazy people from time to time). Food for thought….

cra’ zee: (definition) as a verb. 1). the abitlity for one to act in a bizarre fashion. 2). to behave in an unusual manner. 3) the willingness of one to travel over 3000 miles from ones homestate with 5000 or so posters with the intent of plastering every telephone pole, storefront, and business window in a small community with degrading facts about a group of people never previously known to the public. 4) the continuance of pushing ones buttons, knowing all too well that if it continues, definition (3) will be an inevidible occurrence.

friends with mark? Isn’t that like falling into a snake pit?

Well, I think Mark Cornelsen sounds and acts exactly like a stereotypical, caricaturized version of what “normal” society thinks homosexuals should sound/act like. It’s sad. Who cares, really, that he was put out at 16? So what? Grow up, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps, and try and make it in the world. It looks to me like he’s riding on the coattails of Mr. Knight, wearing faux-witty shirts that say things like “We All Have AIDS”. Well, don’t all have AIDS. We “all” don’t make decisions where hormones cause our common sense to be overrided by lust and stupidity. There are those of us who are “normal” homosexuals who can have fun and not lose sight of their objective sensibilities, and who do not get AIDS. Mr. Knight, I hope you get rid of the gold-digging, whiny, not-witty and not cute lisping little boy who sees, as most egotistical and self-centered twinks do, that they have found their very own Horatio Alger “benefactor”, or in more modern terms, their “sugar daddy”. I hope Mr. Knight doesn’t succumb to that sort of shallowness. Trade that “trade” in for a better sort of partner/husband/whatever! Oh, I’d like to add that him using Matthew Shepherd as a springboard for his “altruistic” attitude towards politics and the gay community: stop using that one incident as a means of exposing yourself to the public. Stop using Matthew Shepherd as a martyr for your false concern for the “gay” public. Not every gay man or wo-man is a victim or becomes a victim and the real measure of gaining respect for yourself as a gay man/wo-man in society is by acting/talking and letting others perceive you as somone respectful, not just being another stereotypical, feminized version of a man that deserves public scorn/pity/rejection. Try promoting monogamy or less dependenance on drugs/alcohol and dirty book stores in the gay community, which would help reduce HIV/AIDS transmission and promote a sense of normalcy on par with heterosexual society. Oh, and drop the lisp! It’s hurting your credibility!

It seems that this site was a little slow so someone had to push the drunk dad homo hater button. wow intolerable tolerance.

hypocrite from the greek it means actor or one who affects virtues or qualities he or she does not have. lets make sure that we are tolerant of all lifestyles even conservative ones, if we are going to call ourselves open. if we all have aids then so does ferndale man and marks dad. taking a stand on issues and differing in an idea or lifestyle from a family member does not have to separate the whole. this will all work itself out when mark grows up a bit and his dad learns to listen to him.

Actually, I think Eric hit the nail on the head with Mark. I have been following his actions, and I see patterns with him that are so phony. My only hope is that TR wakes up and realizes that this little twit and his whole– entire screwed up family of psychotics, are only after him for the fame, glory, and the money. As far as I am concerned— they are all nothing more than glorified trash.

Yeah they’re kinda cute together, but …well let’s see, the chicken hawk finally landed, such a typical hollywood power play, the older and more established men get the chicks, or in this case the chicken. I guess there is some equality afterall- with fame and fortune you can bag anybody, regardless how much younger they are.

Eric, the truth is that most of the time, homosexuals who are “put out” into the street because of their identity, SELDOM are so free to admit to it. It happened to me, actually.. and I was not flauntacious, but rather, just discovered by my Grandfather who had many prejudices. Mostly, it’s self-identifying shame, embarassment, indifference, etc, that causes a “bottling up” affect. What Mark did was use his circumstance to gain popularity in gay society— along with using the public “dollar” to gain the funding for his college eduacation through the Point/ Matthew Shepard Foundation. Mark’s own father told me “personally”, that Mark was nothing more than a “Drama Queen” who always felt he needed to be in the spotlight. He was an incourageable teen who used to sneak out his bedroom window at night to see his boyfriend— also told to me by his father. What you must bear in mind is that in order to get college funding though these Foundations, one must show ostracation, abuse/neglect/disadvantagement of some kind. Well, excuse me— but I hardly call a person’s parents paying for two trips during high school— one to Australia, the other to France, a kid who is disadvantaged in any way, do you?

And fraudulence? Well, the fact that Mark’s parents have college funds set aside for all their kids—including Mark, one of the biggest cases of fraud against a Foundation of good cause as I have ever seen! What do you think?

I mean, think of it… All of us in the public donate to charity—THINKING that we are doing a good thing for someone who really needs it— only to be duped by an IDIOT like Mark. Meanwhile, “Sammy nearly beaten to death by so-and-so” needing the avenue out, ISN’T getting it! Fair? And then he gets “conveniently” SHOVED under the nose of one of the kindest gay men known in present time.. “AKA TR Knight”… only to thumb his nose at all of us and bear odasity to say “SUCKAS!!”

Mark preaches his message of tolerance.. but yet he knows NOT anyting of what he speaks– he has never exparienced the pain and sorrow so many of us have in our lifetimes… You’re right, Eric… about everything… Mark is nothing more than a user who has conned everyone into placing him into a very cosy situation for himself– but at the same time, a very DANGEROUS and potentially devistating situation for TR Knight.

It’s disgusting! He is the true meaning of “PIG”.. and I don’t care anymore who knows it! And as far as his parents? The y can go to HELL as far as I am concerned— because they told me to keep my mouth shut about what I was told by them and you know?— THAT’S WRONG… and now, my mouth is wide open and LOUD! It’s not right what he has done, and I will tell all I know. I have my phone bill reciepts to prove the phone call, and that’s all the evidence I need to dtake my claims to speaking to Mark’s father.

And by the way… while I was talking to Mark’s father– he actually referred to Mark as a “snake-oil” salesman… which I would suppose means that Mark is a smooth talking con artist who could sell the moon as a ball of cheese or something.

Mark ran away from home, actually, Eric. He wasn’t tossed out as he claims. His father said that he up and left one day—stripping the house of his belongings, and when he and his wife returned home one day– Mark was gone! Hmmm… ostracated? Yeah, right Mark… sell the public another one of your damn lies….

There is so much more to say… and you know what? I hope this whole mess ends up in the court room. I really do, because it will do my heart good to see the whole Cornelsen family fry for the crap they are letting their son get away with— and then telling me to “hush” about it.

Remember that, Dan? (Mark’s father). Mark’s a snibbling little coward… uses everyone for everything and I will relish in the day I can see him get his just desserts for the advantage he has taken of the Foundations at hand, and all the person who probably didn’t get his deserving hand in the “sponsor pool” like he should have!

hmmmm. amazing how quiet the forum becomes whan the truth comes tumbling out? Wonder where the opposition ran off to?…

To Dwane Wolfe:

I agree with many of your comments, but you are a little off base with some of them. I take it you have never personally met any members of the Cornelson family, including Mark. That’s why I wonder why you feel so qualified to judge him or his behavior. You don’t know him at all. I have met him and his family and I feel that I know them quite well and watched Mark grow up. Mark has a heart of gold, was very well liked by everyone that ever met him, was a straight A student, worked hard as a waiter while going to school to help fund his OWN trips, and is a worldly-wise kid who has a lot of determination to make something of himself. He is a sincere, honest person, not the evil person using another to gain fame and fortune that you think he is. I’m sure he is still immature and a novice at love since I believe this is only his second boyfriend. Though he wasn’t technically thrown out, he left his parents house under duress and great stress. They wanted him to get “cured” of homosexuality through religious means and conferences. Anything short of that was unacceptable and he felt he had to leave in order to survive and maintain his sanity. He has been living on his own since a very early age and probably did qualify for his scholarship because of that. Knowing him, I believe he is trying to use his new-found fame to further the cause for gay rights, not a bad thing by any means. Both of his parents have good hearts. They just can’t function well in the gay world with their religious beliefs and unless they reject their religion, they feel that they have to reject homosexuality. I am a straight man who had great loving parents and grew up in a very traditional midwestern home, so I do not personally know what either his parents or Mark are going through in dealing wih these religious or gay issues. Dwayne, it sounds like you do seem to understand many of those issues, but your hostility toward people you do not know is growing rather old. I guess I simply don’t understand why you are so negative toward Mark when you really don’t know him at all. I can understand your hostility toward his parents, but one phone call doesn’t mean you know them, either.

Hi Fernadale man…

I appreciate your comments. And you are right about a couple of things. No, I have not personally met the Cornelsen family, and I have spoken to both of Mark’s parents on the telephone actually. They seemed nice enough— well, at first, but I gathered my opinion by the facts that were told me, by them. The mere fact that they chose to come into the open AND public forum in the beginning says something about their credibility…. a great lack of it.

Desperation to cover one’s tracks of wrong doing, or perhaps trying to recruit members of the public into their twisted way of thinking is what was at stake, actually— and was made painstakingly obvious by Mark’s father who was all too content to babble on about the wrong things that Mark had done. He himself, described Mark as a “snake-oil salesman”. I use quotation marks around the phrase because those were his EXACT words, and not just merely something I am suggesting. I could go on and on about all the things he actually told me about Mark, but who has that kind of time. You yourself stated taht Dan drank heavily in the basement daily…. so honestly, as yours (I’m assuming you’ve seen this) my opinion is based on fact, and not bitter hostility as you suggest.

I’m sure Mark worked as a kid.. no one is denying that fact… however, when his own parents talk about the college funds they have set aside for all their children– including Mark, this is where the hostility begins with me as far as Mark is concerned. What you also have to bear in mind is that Mark’s Dad told me about the extravagance in both “dress” and in gift giving Mark had gone to when he appeared at their home in Fernadale this past Christmas. Upset? Sure I am! Bear in mind… this is a kid who is SUPPOSED to be having a major struggle with multiple jobs, college tuition, etc… Come on now, where does the “pity” end, and the “reasonable thinking” begin?

About Mark… I know MArk a bit better than you or anyone else in this forum thinks I do. Mark knows EXACTLY who I am, and he knows EXACTLY what the choke-hold is that I have that keeps him steering clear of me, each and every time I am on this message board. Don’t you get it? With all I have said thus far on this board… which has been far louder and more informative than any other poster.. if I didn’t know Mark a little better than you think I do, whouldn’t he barge in an defend himself or deny alligations? Right…. So you see my point.

Mark is far from being a saint… good heart or not. There is a side to Mark that I know, don’t like, and he knows what I mean.. so that’s all that matters. I also have friends in the film industry… so as for the goings on with Mark from time to time… I know enough. And you know?— it ain’t all peaches and cream.

Let’s just leave it at that for the moment.