Angelina Jolie: We Have a Moral Obligation to Help Iraqi Refugees

No, Rachesun, I think it’s the issue how America got into this war, because it’s doing it over and over again. This is probably the most importatnt issue. This is not the game for the victims, but for those people who’re doing this - like your president - it’s just the manipulative game.

angelena should stay in a kikchen an cook and be aboout having babbies an takin care of har other youngins. look womenly an shut up an stay out of mens beznezz..poltics is four mens an election woman.

# 544 helen @ 02/29/2008 at 6:38 pm

You are sad.

AJ doesn’t cook. Why the hell sould she. She is an extreamly talented woman who’s better off doing amazing life changing things for others.

Let me know if you figure out how to make a difference from your kitchen.

It is wonderful to have an informed and intelligent discussion on the diverse differences of politics vs humanitarian causes.

Go to hell : at least she is doing something, it’s not like everybody at HW or around the world cares much, look even at the news, there is more and more time trassmiting news about britney or Paris. If what it is needed are celebrities talking about good causes to make them known, they shoulde be welcomed.
Audery Hepburn went to Ethiopia and other countries when there were huge hunger crisis, she tried to help. And she was “just an actress”. I remember that I was young then (didn’t watched much news), but it impresed me, the news about her, teh pictures about those (hambrunas) crisis were on different types of magazines, not just the news, and we went to buy stuff from Unicef (agendas, and cups) because we tried to help (family and friends), and it was because we heard about it.

At least is more than just writing a check.

OMG, did JustJared just out Nicole Richee love her? Her name is now appearing in post #544, but according to Jess0 #546, #544 was originally Helen! And she has has posted Angelina bashing posts.

francesca @ 02/29/2008 at 9:22 am

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lylian: No one is trying to discredit your mum’s achievements. Kudos to her for trying, for putting up the good fight to become the woman she became. However I don’t think from your own report that she did it on her own.

You said: my mother did come to this country with only about three dollars to her name. …. she went to new york

Lylian: She went to new york. I’m assuming your mother landed in Cuba like many did, so how did she get to NY on 3 dollars? Did she hitch hike, did she walk?? If she landed anywhere else other than NY with nothing other than 3$ in the lining of her coat, she presumably got there through the kindness of others.

You said: and swept streets and stayed at a shelter

lylian: She stayed in a shelter. Even if she had paid a small sum for the shelter, the shelter was most likely subsidised. Some one set up the shelter for people like your mum to stay and find her feet.

You said: until she had money saved to stay at a YMCA.

lylian: The YMCA itself was originally set up by christians to provide cheap accommodation to those like your mum.

You said: she NEVER took a hand out, she NEVER accepted charity.

lylian: From what you yourself have said, along the way, she did take charity, she did get a hand out, and by the way, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ACCEPTING HELP AND CHARITY IN YOUR TIME OF NEED.

lylian: The important thing to me is if and when you accept charity or a hand out in your time of need you should remember:

(a) to be GRATEFUL for those who have done something to help you and

(b) to PAY IT FORWARD when you can give.

Because it is a blessing to be able to give and it is a blessing to receive.

You said: don’t you DARE question anything about my mother. you aren’t fit to shine her shoes.

Lylian: So, I don’t for one minute question your mother’s courage and strength of purpose or anything like that. What I question is the lessons you seem to have derived from her experience - which as someone said, you lack some humility and generosity of spirit and I’m sure that wasn’t because your mother didn’t teach you.

And before you say, what would I know, old timers here know that my family were very poor, growing up in South East Asia. So I do know a thing or two about a father who had to pull themselves up with by his own bootstraps during and after World War II when the Japanese invaded our area and people were being killed. He too slogged like a dog to support his family during the war. But my father taught me to be humble and to appreciate the help people offered along his way to success - be it a kind word of encouragement or a regular invitation to a meal at home by a kindly teacher. And he taught me the privilege of paying it forward. Because, frankly, but for the grace of God, there goes I.

I’m assuming your mother landed in Cuba like many did,

Oops, I mean to say “your mother landed in Florida, like many did”

IF SHE”S SAID END THE WAR IN SUDAN WHY CAN”T SHE SAY END THE WAR IN IRAQ?????????

angelina succks @ 02/29/2008 at 8:59 pm
I thank you for your son’s service to this country, however, it seems you have personal issues, and it shows.

Gerodena @ 02/29/2008 at 5:43 pm

No, Rachesun, I think it’s the issue how America got into this war, because it’s doing it over and over again. This is probably the most importatnt issue. This is not the game for the victims, but for those people who’re doing this - like your president - it’s just the manipulative game.
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Whether you like it or not THERE ARE VICTIMS of IRAQ war including 4 million refugees. So, what are you going to do with them? ABANDON them?

To YUCK @ 02/29/2008 at 8:51 pm

Have you really read her article? Where does she say to go on fighting? Her business is refugees. She concentrates on refugees.

The only times she referred to the war in general is when she wrote,
“What we cannot afford, in my view, is to squander the progress that has been made.” But then she returns to her business again, the refugees, in the next sentence, “In fact, we should step up our financial and material assistance….

Sudan was not invaded by the US, but the US is totally responsible for the invasion of, and subsequent fighting in and destruction of Iraq, so the US is totally responsible to solve the Iraq crisis, including the plight of the refugees.

Did I say being known for a haircut was a big achievement. No. I was just trying to point out that she was very famous before Brad. Being on one of the biggest TV shows ever is an achievment though. In the 90’s she was probably the most talked about actress around, like Angelina is now.

Is Aniston working with TRUE A-Listers? Actors and directors? No.
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Angelina has made her share of crappy films. Aniston has made a few good films since Friends and gotten a fair bit of critical acclaim (The Good Girl, Friends With Money). She’s also made some utter crap and like Angelina a few years ago, she’s paying the price for some bad decisions. It might be a good idea for some of you to remember that between Tomb Raider & Mr & Mrs Smith Angelina was in a huge slump professionally. During that time she was mostly famous for topping most beautiful/sexiest lists and doing weird **** with Billy Bob.

Would Angelina be as famous without Brad. No. While I was impressed with her work in A Mighty Heart, it’s not her work that’s making her famous at the moment. It’s her private life, above anything else she’s doing. So before you slight Jennifer for only being famous for being Brads ex, think about whether Angelina would really be so big without him. Just a few years ago she was being linked to every guy around, the tabloids were sticking her with the desperate for a man tag and the work was drying up. Much like Jennifer today. My point is if you want to bash Jennifer for something, make sure the woman you all admire hasn’t been in the same position. It makes your argument weak.

559 angelina succks @ 02/29/2008 at 8:59 pm

It is not hard to fly first class to a foreign country, meet with important people, and then write a paper on it,(anyone who has graduated from high school or college has had to do the same type of writing).
Angelina could fly to Paris, attend the haute couture shows and pose in gorgeous gowns from the various haute couture houses, but she doesn’t do that. She has made the refugees her business outside Hollywood.

What is hard is effecting real change-this is the task that miss angelina is just not up for or even interested in. Her primary efforts focus on establishing relationships with an international contact base consisting primarily of important officials, (this ultimately increases her own power base. It does far less in helping refugees, but what am I saying? They are just “details”).
This paragraph tells me that you don’t think before you speak!
W, the most powerful person in the world, can’t change things. There is still no Palestinian state!!! He would love that before he leaves office. It takes teamwork, the effort of a great many people and many countries.
Same with refugees. Angelina can’t change things by herself. Antonio Guterres, the head of the UNHCR can change things by himself. It takes a whole lot of work by a lot of people from many countries to help feed, house and resettle the refugees in other countries or help them return to their own country.

The phillipino refugees who called on her for support were not important enough to visit. But Iraqi refugees - now that’s HOT!
I understand the Burmese refugees also would appreciate a visit, but she can’t go everywhere. There are 6 or 7 other UNHCR goodwill ambassadors. AJ has visited Iraq already. It’s only natural that she stays/goes on with Iraq.

The U.N did not even sanction, need, or was aware of her “cowboy” solo save the Iraqi refugees mission she undertook.
I bet the UNHCR is very happy to have her work for them. She has initiative. If she also gets in the news because of her work for them, so what? She is famous already.

Please make no mistake, miss Angelina is a little too transparent in marketing her own self important persona, (especially now around Oscar time since she knew the press would not be covering an award for her this year.)
She really doesn’t need more exposure. It just comes with the territory. She is committed to her work for the UNHCR.

I do not think angelina is in any position to dictate if my son should stay in Iraq to support her cause. How nice it must be not to have to deal with all these “details”.
You haven’t really read her article, have you! Nowhere in this article does she dictate anyone to stay in Iraq to support her cause.
Print the article (only 2 pages) and read it carefully before you speak, and don’t put words in her mouth!

laydidah @ 02/29/2008 at 9:59 pm

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BWAHAAHAH Angelina was a FAMOUS humanitarian/academy award winning actress long before Brad came into her life. Brad has had plenty of bombs his damn self… he admitted to being depressed because of the ****** films. Pfft