Orlando Bloom is a Motorcycle Man

@173
You take the ex-boyfriend’s reaction as the gospel truth. Then he wasn’t much of man when he failed to follow up by making a police report. Or at the very least, take it to the press. Shouldn’t he & Taylor be proclaiming what happened from the rooftops? Don’t they want to save the next woman who falls prey to Bloom’s unwanted advances?

And you ought to be ashamed of yourself when you automatically discount Taylor. Why do that? Because she’s a woman and therefore cant’ think for herself? I don’t know how you jumped from her correcting her ex-boyfriend’s status to asking for it. I was making the point that the ex-boyfriend’s rather possessive behavior -EX-boyfriend, remember?- was probably why she consider him an ex.

And what did Taylor lie or didn’t lie about?!

@174
Uh…If you actually believe what you wrote, then agreeing to disagree & we will never know what actually happened would have been enough. Given the rest of your post, sounds like you don’t really want to agree to disagree, etc. It’s with us or against us, eh? Just remember, I said MAYBE there is no story.

As for them keeping silent, yeah, same as maybe there’s no story: stranger things have happened. :-)

@177
Ah. I like your last strange things happen. Pax.

OT: I like the autoformatting of the smilies! Does that make me lazy…

:-D

I think the accident&picking up model story
(no matter if you believe what’s happened) changed his public image for worse. At least a little bit.
I have never believed Orlando is perfect because he’s just a man. Picking up girls in clubs is something common, men do it. The difference is that Orlando is a celeb and everything is recoreded by cameras.
I think that since the accident his PR try to change his image to keep him in the spotlight with lots of fans again. Dating Miranda is quite helpful because he’s seen as a loving man. I just think that they play it wrong because from a womanizer he became a showmance puppet, which is even more annoying.
I don’t think Orlando is a really bad man, at least not more than any other guy. I just think people shouldn’t take serious what he says about himself because he can’t say ‘I love to have one night stands in club, it makes me feel good and I don’t really care about the conseqences’.

I tend to agree with you. I don’t think he is a bad man.. I think he was very young and it happened so fast, that he lost sight of who he really is and what he says he believes. While I think he has always been a party animal, and was a bit of a womanizer, I doubt he was any worse tham some guys I know. But then women were literally throwing themselves at him, he could have any kind of sexual favor he wanted and more. And he didn’t have the maturity to realize that yes there can be too much of a good thing, and sometimes it is better to be more respectful of you self and just using women (even if they are willing) isn’t a healty was to live.
I agree the Miranda thing is to try to change his image from a big partier, who drinks and maybe uses drugs, is taking several different women home every night. They are trying to rebuild that image of a nice guy who is respecttful to women and is serious about his career, and it a kind of fun, sweet, and yet a little goofy guy.

They have picked the wrong way to do it. I think more people would have so much more respect for him, if he talked about the accident and the incicdent at the club, maybe admitted he had made some dumb decesion and apologed to his fans for letting them down, along with his friends and family. He would have won over so many people if he stood up and behaved like a man with dignity and humility. He got bad advice, and he should have put his foot down.

OK, for the millionth time.
There were more things unclear about that night. Like, VT was quick to let everyone know the other guy is his ex. I don’t know about you, personally I like to do the least damage possible when I break up with a guy, sometimes offer the “let’s be friends” line, but I never go to clubs and parties with my exes. That would be kinda weird. Also, to me VT looked like she was angry at both guys. You know they are sometimes like little boys fighting over a toy.

BTW I no longer go to clubs. Recend trends include women dressing like cheap h00kers, putting their stuff on display, and the dancing styles nowadays with the @ss shaking and hip swirling… makes poor guys nuts. I’m not saying they asked for it, no way does a guy have the right to be indecent just because of that. All I am saying is that if that behaviour makes a man lose it, I don’t like it, but I understand, so I avoid those situations.

Another thing that night is that when they leave the club, a woman is driving, and although the paps start to follow them immediately, at no point do we see pics of someone getting out of the car to change places. We don’t know when and how he got to the driver’s seat and that was always weird to me.
Also, he never personally blamed the paps, it was his cousin who said that. And remember, he was driving a borrowed car, on the right side of the road he might not be completely used to, and he was not speeding a little bit either, or the crash would have been much worse. Personally I guess the lady who was driving first had a few drinks and that is why they decided to switch seats. Why else?
I don’t blame the guy to quietly panic and get away, I have been in a car crash before, and it took some time before I was able to think straight.

Oh, and about the “rep for being grabby with women” bit, well, that too is an internet rumour to me, so while I do not cast it away, I will not believe it without credible sources more than I believe his love and dedication to Ms. Pink Panties of Oz.

Thank you. You are constantly a voice of reason here. People seem so quick to believe negative stuff that has no more credibility than the hearts and flowers sh!t about him and MK. I agree 100% with everything you say.

@181: how do we know who he called? We don’t. And frankly people react really oddly in those situations. He might have had no idea how serious the injury was. I find that whole conversation being used to damn him to be kind of silly. I have no problem sitting here and poking holes in his public persona and the PR manipulations. But people do need to be careful to not believe their own version of events and recollections. It’s better to stick to facts. As Jaded said, a lot of the stuff people throw at him to crucify him are as much gossip and speculation as the MK garbage.

@182:

They have picked the wrong way to do it. I think more people would have so much more respect for him, if he talked about the accident and the incicdent at the club, maybe admitted he had made some dumb decesion and apologed to his fans for letting them down, along with his friends and family

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What did he do? They released a statement originally that he was thankful to the emergency workers and then he briefly commented on Larry King about the situation. There was no reason for him to comment further. I know some people don’t believe the police and DA of Los Angeles but as long as they are satisfied there’s not much else to say. He doesn’t need to apologize publicly to his fans, he didn’t do anything to them. He was in what amounted to a minor fender bender.

I also have to say, even though I don’t care to re hash this: I love that people say “he only went back because of the paparazzi”. Please, the paparazzi first told him that if his car was drivable he should get in it and drive it! The paparazzi who said he had to go back was trying to get him into trouble. You tell me why they didn’t drop the cameras and help the poor bleeding people? The truth is no one knows exactly what happened but I sure as hell wouldn’t take the photog’s word over anyone elses.

LOL, you KNOW this is a weird place if a silly girl like me gets to be “constantly a voice of reason”! But thanks for that anyway, much appreciated. *mwah*

that is nice if its true-hope it is. But I do have to wonder why it wasn’t in the paper like everything else and I don’t believe its because she wouldn’t have wanted that kind of press.

I just saw it on IMDb. I wonder if she’ll upload the photos. Eagerly waiting.

It would never be some sort of accident, it would be arranged for any celeb to visit a hospital like that.

One alleged good deed doesn’t make them a legitimate couple or erase everything else. Especially if we don’t know the details under which this occured. I could spin a million scenarios about it that wouldn’t mean MK was a “good” person. As for OB, he’s done this sort of thing in the past so we at least know he has a history of it. Her participation? Might just be mimicking his “causes” like her words now mimick everything else he has said or done.

according to the post it was not an accident but a dinner that they went to there.
Don’t those types of charity dinners make the paper? Maybe it wasn’t a charity dinner but the poster said it was dinner.

In the case of a Ronald McDonald House it might be low key because they don’t wanna be associated with McDonald’s. No conspiracies here. So far. Although it would have sounded more natural to my ears is she would have said “Thursday”, for example, instead of “the other day”. Might just be me though.

@dinner - Dinner could be 6:30 pm. Kids often go to bed at 8 pm. Especially in a hospital where illness makes them exhausted. I have kids, I know how their energy seems to disappear during illness.