OlderEllen to McCain on Same Sex Marriage: “Our Love Is the Same”
On today’s Ellen DeGeneres Show, the lesbian talk show host talked with Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain about their views on same-sex marriage and her plans to marry her partner, actress Portia de Rossi, this summer.
“I’m obviously excited and to me this is only fair and only natural,” Ellen said.
McCain said “people should be able to enter into legal agreements, and I think that that is something that we should encourage, particularly in the case of insurance and other areas, decisions that have to be made. I just believe in the unique status of marriage between man and woman. And I know that we have a respectful disagreement on that issue.”
“Blacks and women did not have the right to vote,” Ellen responded. “I mean, women just got the right to vote in 1920. Blacks didn’t have the right to vote until 1870. And it just feels like there is this old way of thinking that we are not all the same. We are all the same people, all of us. You’re no different than I am. Our love is the same. To me — to me, what it feels like — just, you know, I will speak for myself — it feels — when someone says, ‘You can have a contract, and you’ll still have insurance, and you’ll get all that,’ it sounds to me like saying, ‘Well, you can sit there; you just can’t sit there.’ That’s what it sounds like to me. It feels like — it doesn’t feel inclusive…It feels — it feels isolated. It feels like we are not — you know, we aren’t owed the same things and the same wording.”
Responded McCain, “Well, I’ve heard you articulate that position in a very eloquent fashion. We just have a disagreement. And I, along with many, many others, wish you every happiness.”
“Thank you,” joked Ellen. “So you’ll walk me down the aisle? Is that what you’re saying?”
“Touché,” McCain laughed.
“Well, my hope is someday it won’t be called a contract; it will be called marriage,” Ellen ended.
You can watch the video of Ellen and McCain here.
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McCain is right it’s NOT THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think when people say “sick”, it’s more of a personal attack, however, while I believe that same sex marriage is wrong, by statute, personal attacks should not be a part of standing up for what you believe.
you know, if people like you didn’t believe in such morally wrong things our nation would be a little more respected today. you talk about how our nation has changed, so stop living in the past, well if someone doesn’t maintain some kind of boundary lines we are going to be living like crap. America used to have a little more common sense than this, haven’t you realized that God made us in order for man to marry woman, it kinda doesn’t work right when a woman marries another woman, hows that gonna work, if you get my drift. other people can do what ever they want it is a free country and we’re so blessed to live here, but sometimes when it comes to things like this we’re becoming too free. because this is just down right sinful and gross. but like i said it is a free country but ellen don’t put McCain on the spot like that, your just lucky he was soo respectful to you or else you would have looked like an idiot.
That is completly wrong and so stupid ellen is a idiot and is just stupoid how can she even say that it is right? i mean this is the same as the same sex marrage in cali that got passed. it is wrong and people know it. that is why they feel the strong need to defend it so strongly. so duh a marrage is suppost to be betwn a man and a woman. so McCain is right and she is so wrong.
Jane @ 05/22/2008 at 12:25 pm
People who agree with McCain seriously need a huge reality check. This is 2008.
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I am sure you are the person who will be promoting beastiality or incestual unions next.
Marriage is “sacred”???
LOL!! I can’t believe anyone takes marriage seriously anymore because unless you have been living under a cage MOST marriages fail and end up in divorce. What is so “sacred” about that?
You all are just worthless idiots or bored soccer who probably lives in worthless fly-over states and has nothing else to do with your lives than blog.
To all you idiots who know nothing about the bible and think homosexuality is equal to murder: Did you know that it is a sin for women to wear pearls? Did you know it is a sin for us to eat pork? DID YOU KNOW THAT PRE-MARITAL SEX IS A BIG SIN (I’m sure you’ve all done it)?
LETS BAN PORK, PEARLS AND PRE-MARITAL SEX!! IT’S A SIN!!
IDIOTS.
McCain for President!!
I like Ellen though.
Who are you fools to “disagree” with homosexuality? What does it concern you??
Why are you “agreeing” and “disagreeing” with people’s lives for ***** sake?
Ew,
McCain is so old and ugly!!!!
Well, Let me start by saying for everyone who asks why we believe in One Man and one Woman Marriages. Ladies and gentlemen We agree with 3,000 years of recorded history but we disagree with the Supreme Judicial Court of California. The main reason is because we are worried about the family and the future of our civilization. A lot of arguments say well we won’t adopt kids but once we pass same sex marriage it will go farther and farther. I don’t know about you but I don’t want two Same sex Parents.
Hats off to John McCain and Ellen for having the courage to be transparent and, yet, respectful of one another.
We love to watch “The Ellen DeGeneres Show” and can’t imagine not being able to. That’s why we support our friends in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and neighbouring countries who want to be able to watch the show on a German TV channel and therefore signed the “TEDS in Deutschland” online petition.
http://www.ellen-forum.de/petition_teds_support/gbs-gbook.php?start=1
I am shocked that people here are comparing homosexuality to murder, bestiality and incest. That is so unbelievably ignorant and couldn’t be further from the truth! I’m amazed that people still hold such narrow minded views.
I agree wholeheartedly with Ellen here.
#30 - are you saying those who cannot conceive are not “real” men or women??
a lot of these comments really make me sad at how close minded so many people are. to call somebody “sick” for being gay . . . wow.
as for the marriage is sacred argument, do those of you are against gay marriage for that reason also dispute “quickie” marriages that last only a few days? i mean britney spears & jason alexander wasn’t exactly a shining example of how sacred marriage is. or dennis rodman & carmen electra. or larry king’s many marriages. or j-lo. or any other countless number of celebs who change spouses almost as often as they change their underwear.
in a world so full of hate and bigotry, i think we should celebrate love in all forms and be happy for those who have found it.
Judging others- ? not the same as using good judgement! We should use good judgement in life, teaching, accepting, decisions.
It is important for our government to use good judement! Mankind has the right to use good judgement ! You would not put a short person on a job to reach high places- nor would you put a tall person to go into a small opening- etc etc! We would not ask a child to do an adult job!
This again, is not judging!!!!!! Yes, God only has the job of judging the “soul”, but gave mankind the right “Earthly ” right to judge, make
the right decisions for the safety and good of our people. My judgement would be to not give gays and lebians the right to get legally married!!!!! you are not equal as Men and Women, no matter what you say- even if you say I am narrow-minded- I will remain narrow-minded! God would be the JUDGE for that !
From Coco - “As far as I’m concerned, you can’t concieve a baby naturally like a REAL woman and a REAL man.”
First, are you implying that gay men are not REAL men, and that lesbians are not REAL women? Talk about ignorant!
Second, there are many REAL men and REAL women, who happen to be straight, that are infertile and cannot have children. What do you say to those straight couples who are infertile? They cannot get married or have the same rights as fertile straight couples?! Seriously?
Third, there are plenty of gays and lesbians who have children of their own. Many of them (before they came out) were in relationships with the opposite sex and had kids with them. Gay doesn’t equal sterile, but I guess you didn’t know that.
“And please stop comparing yourselves to black people.”
The point is that ignorance is ignorance. Being gay is not a choice nor a sin, just like race. You just don’t want to accept the fact that homophobia is as bad as racism, because then you’ll have to accept that you’re a bigot too, just like a racist! Boo hoo.
Justin111:
Have you even read the Bible? Please stop talking about something which you obviously know NOTHING about.
#44 - Lauren, while I don’t agree with same sex marriage, I think if someone loves someone then that should be it. Obviously, there should be lines drawn (incest, for an example) but as long as someone is in love and happy, it shouldn’t matter.
Some of these comments, from both sides of the spectrum, are so ridiculous. I’m open-minded, and I agree with McCain, but I will gladly listen to someone else’s opinion and take it into consideration. Learn to do the same, whether you’re for or against something. You don’t have to change your mind but be respectful.
I love McCain , and I agree with him need more men like him
no same sex marriage
Let me guess….all of you who like mccain and are against gay marriage live in middle america and other small towns? You should try getting out more.
Ellen is just like every other obnoxious liberal, shoving their views down everyone’s throat. I’m not a McCain supporter, but he showed alot more class than Ellen showed as the host.
Ellen, great job today and for putting McCain in his place. Why can’t people just let other people live their own lives. My God, people, this is the United States of America, the Land of the Free. God loves us all. McCain is from an old generation and as in his words a “very, very, very, old man. His thinking his very, very, very old. What’s wrong with society is people that cannot adapt to change and be happy for others. ELLEN YOU AND PORTIA RUN TO THE ALTAR AND GET HAPPILY MARRIED. IF I WAS THERE I WOULD HAPPILY BE YOUR MATRON OF HONOR. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ellen is gay!
If a thief or rapist or sicko is hetereo,he gets the equal rights. If u are gay, you are not getting a ****!. What is wrong with these people? I don’t get this! Good for Ellen!
I hate john mcCain….stupid republican. Vote either clinton ot obama, not for mcCain the old republican.
I think Ellen presented her view being respectful and still getting her point across. I commend her for that.
I love Ellen and think her relationship with her partner is her business. BUT, marrige is between a man and a woman. God created Adam and Eve…NOT Adam and Steve!!!!! To the person who says middle America is who supports Mc Cain… Yes, we do. GO MCCAIN!!!!
#47,
aNoN YES *****.
I am a Christian have read the bible and I can pinpot to what I’m talking about if you’re that stupid.
Question is, have you read the bible? Idiot? Women are forbidden to wear pearls, dumb ****.
I bet you’re one of those idiots who believes other sins like pre-marital sex is not wrong.
I bet you’re a fat ass too. Gluttony? It’s a deadly sin. Do you throw your bible at fat people as well, idiot?
sacred means “devoted or dedicated to a deity or to some religious purpose” and the biggest argument it that the Bible states that being gay is wrong. Do you remember the Bible? Do you know even anything it says? Its the *very* reason our country was founded. The Bible sanctifies the marriage between a man and a woman. So firstly, you are dead wrong (and sound about 12 years old) and secondly, why would a same sex couple want to be married in a sacred ceremony under the same exact God that condemns their lifestyle? (but I guarantee He loves them just the same as you and me!) If not a religious ceremony, then a civil ceremony which is a ‘non religious ceremony’ is in otherwords..a CONTRACT.
All right, let’s think about everything that’s been said.
The State should be caring about their citizens’ behaviour, not about their personal lives. And it’s deeply true that we gotta respect each other, but let’s put an example to illustrate the idea:
Ellen respects Mcain’s point of view which is absolutely disrespectful. Why should people who respect those who don’t accept them be PUNISHED by not being allowed to get married?
I respect those who have a religious view on the whole. Yet, why wouldn’t they respect me? Didn’t - suposedly - Christ told the humanity to be respectful?
That’s the question.
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