Vanessa Hudgens - MTV Movie Awards 2008

i love you vanessa!!!

Boji, my friend, you have hit the nail smack on the head! Good going, lady! Yes, Miss Gomez has a lot to learn and I hope she doesn’t say too much that will make her sick when she has to eat her words. Believe me, what I thought and said at 15 was very much different than the reality I lived when I was in college and was 19. Emotions, temptations, hormones, and a slew of other peers ideas who are around you then pose a new set of thoughts and ideas many times than those that bind you when you are with Mom and Dad at 15.

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for me Vanessa is still my Best disney star!

What bugs me about Selena is the implication that she is above making mistakes like ” you know who.” I don’t appreciate the suggestion that the other stars did something so awful. The way that Vanessa has handled herself since the “scandal” has been exemplary and I feel that there are much better lessons to be learned from that than making some grandiose statement suggesting that you will never make such a mistake. As others have mentioned, she is publicly setting herself up for a fall because it is easier to say such things than to avoid making mistakes.

And what is so wrong with making mistakes if you learn from the experience. I think it is almost as bad to go on record saying you are above other people than to just live with private convictions.

Plus she definitely should show more professional respect for Vanessa, who has opened the door for all of these other brown hair, brown eye Disney stars (Selena, Demi Lovata or whoever). Vanessa’s look is now almost the norm for Disney stars instead of the Hilary Duf look (which is to be a beautiful blonde ). So Selena, please stop suggesting that you will never make a mistake because, as we all know, “everyone makes mistakes” (as our other “naughty” Disney star has so aptly put it!)

Speaking of Miley, her reaction to the VF cover was the opposite of the class Vanessa showed when under fire. Vanessa took responsibility for her mistake while the Cyrus clan tried to blame others, including a world renowned photographer and a magazine known for it’’s out there covers. What were they honestly thinking when they agreed to put Miley on the front cover. She is a teen pop star so the magazine was the wrong vehicle all together. My husband even commented that he lost all respect the Cyrus’ because they tried to wiggle out of any accountability for the cover shot. As I have said before, mistakes are part of living and accepting responsibility for your actions is the best and classiest way to learn from them.

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I’ve hesitated to comment on this issue because I think it is applaudable to keep oneself for one’s husband. Having said that, the ones that manage to keep it are the ones who never announce it or wear it as a badge because they are the most humbly aware of their own humanity and how prone we are as humans to all kinds of ill.

Like others what bugs me is the motive. Why announce it at all? why now? How come that thunderbolt just struck you now, after Miley’s incidence and you are being hailed as the next disney princess. It just smacks of exploitation, lack of professional or personal respect and downright calculated coldheartedness. I’m sorry I’m sounding harsh but the whole thing upset me so much because it gives christians and christianity a bad name.

Declaring moral superiority always gets the strongest condemnation from Jesus, He was the one that defended the woman caught in adultery and challenged whoever was without sin to cast the first stone. He always advocated keeping your good works between yourself and your God, not letting the right hand know what the left is doing, compassion, standing with those who are hurting or being marginalised not climbing over their broken backs to try to grab their spots (which is basically what Selena is doing). I can’t believe this attitude is being held up for kids to emulate in the name of morality. Her whole attitude is cold and anti-biblical and I’m sorry but she’s totally turned me off.

Earlier on in the year, she gave an interview stating that she was offered a role in HSM 3 but turned it down because she wanted to be taken as a serious actress (doing Cinderella Story?!!!). I gave her the benefit of the doubt then but this has shown me that she has no professional respect whatsoever for her fellow actors and would put them down to boost herself and I think that’s appalling!
Whatever Miley’s fault is, she respects her fellow actors, she refused to comment on Vanessa’s incident, simply stating that her friends should stand by her, she didn’t consider herself too big for hsm. For me. these rank higher than wearing a ‘purity ring’ blessed in church. It takes more than a purity ring to purify one’s heart.

Every known book of wisdom has always stated that it is what people DO not what they SAY that show who they really. Vanessa’s handling of her mistake showed that. I’m hoping Miley learns from hers but Selena’s actions are showing that she’s out of touch with her humanity whih is a pity. As others have said, she’s digging her own pit and it is the same media that is announcing her morality that will bury her if anything goes wrong.

Oh my gosh! Sorry everyone aboout the long post, I got carried away.

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Naomi,

I love your post and could not agree more. I was raised so strictly that when I was faced with “reality” it was a huge kick in the pants of my self-righteousness. A few other things over the years and I realized there are standards Christians try to hold to—meaning there are ideas of actions and moral we TRY to uphold and maintain—but the sometimes no matter how hard we try we fail, fall short of the mark, or are not quite as perfect as we may like to be. It would seem Christ is the one who understands that better than we humans do—he also forgave David for adultery and even blessed him by giving him a son named Solomon with Bathsheba whom David committed adultery with. It shows us mere humans just how feeble-minded we are. We do no know or understand the way God does. That is not to say people should feel free to go out doing whatever they want to do. After all , it does behoove us to try to obtain certain standards—in my case a Christian one. But we are not perfect.

I believe many people who have criticized Vanessa since the photo scandal and who still do are too young, and like me when I was still living at home, to understand certain things in life or are still thinking they are better than those of us who have been less than perfect. But those people on this board who do those things—or try to be critical—get shot down quickly because there are too many of us here who are older and wiser.

And as far as those who feel they must come out and be so outspoken about their virginity, yes, it can done but why must you talk about it? I will mention two cases and shut up:
1) Jessica Simpson proclaimed her virginity and apparently kept it until she married Nick Lachey. Good for her. However, what about now? Plus, after she married Nick she spoke so embarrassingly about sex that I would have preferred if she had been an old “pro” at it when they married. And as I said, what about her life now? Is she a “role model” just because she was a virgin when she was married? It didn’t keep a happy marriage intact.

2) Charleston Heston, married for 64 years to the same woman, was a big “sex” symbol of his day. Who would have thought that the man got married before his 20th birthday and even married the FIRST girl he ever dated? What does that say about him? It must mean he had ONE woman all his life and I never heard him bemoan the issue in saying he wished he had had a chance to have a hundred women, nor did I even hear him proclaiming how great he was because he had saved himself for marriage. His private life was between him and the woman he loved and honored for 64 years. PLUS, he was never a big star who was rumored to have had numerous extramarital affairs.

Basically, we all are given a life to live and what is expected of us is to do the best we can. In the end we have God to answer to and not the public or fans, etc. In the meantime, we have God do lean on and depend upon to try to make us what He would like us to be.

Naomi, I agree with you. I would want my daughter to be pure at 15 and when I grew up I couldn’t date until I was 16. At the time I thought it harsh but now i realize that at 16 I was more prepared to handle peer pressure than I would have been at 14. That besides the fact I loved my parents too much to do anything to make them ashamed of me.
The thing that gets me is why the need to wear purity rings and announce it to the world? it just seems a little fake to me. Remember Brittany Spears made some of the same statements and look what happened there.
I guess what I’m really trying to say is I feel that Selena’ just to become the next Miley, when the first one still exists.

#515 You can rest assured that Zac and Vanessa aren’t too fond of you either. In fact the things they said would make a sailor blush in embarrassment. *blush*

#516 You make some good points Naomi. As I said on the Selena thread where this issue was originally discussed I said if she is sincere and I hope she is then I say good for her, but that it really wasn’t a good idea to announce it to the world. And hadn’t given it any thought since until I read your excellent post.

The whole thing does kind of ring of calculation especially since she along with “Camp Rock” leading lady Demi Lovato are being positioned as the next “big things” to come out of Disney. Unlike Miley, Selena Gomez has no name recognition outside of the Disney Channel yet. So if her announcement was just a calculated move to impress the parents of America I think it will backfire because it’s likely to engender two responses One being “Yeah we’ve heard that before.” And two “Who is this girl and why is she telling us this?”

I also have to say that I also didn’t like the way she looked down her nose at “HSM3.” She apparently doesn’t realize the cross generational appeal of this francise. This is a feature film and it could have gotten her noticed if she really has the chops to make it in the business.

Her silly and immature comments made me think of Hilary Swank’s career. One of Hilary Swank’s first roles was in a “Full House”-esque sitcom called “Camp Wilder.” Her first starring film role was “The Next Karate Kid” then she did a stint on “Beverly Hills 90210.” None of these are exactly Shakespeare. Then she went on to win two Oscars for “Boys Don’t Cry” (1999), and “Million Dollar Baby” (2004) respectively and she’s not even 35 yet. \

Of course I’m not saying Hilary Swank had said No to any of those projects she still wouldn’t be where she is today. I have no way of knowing that. My point is you have to start somewhere. As Vanessa hersefl says in her “Road to High School Muscial 2″ segment when she talks about being paid $50 to play a munchkin in a community theater production of “Wizard of Oz.”

And “High School Muscial 3″ wouldn’t have been such a bad place to start.