Vanessa Hudgens Rubs Zac Efron’s Tummy

I’m sorry but if she has that mindframe when she gets married she’ll be divorced within 2 years. Anyone who has been in a mature relationship and made it last will tell you it’s a lot of work. When your always together and things aren’t always that serious (yes you can go out with someone for 3 years and it not be that serious) there isn’t much work to be done but if they moved in with eachother and were working in far away locations for a long period of time you have to work at it, it’s no longer easy. Why do you think so many people get divorced? They think that loving the other person should be easy and don’t want to work at it. When people are married for 50+ years is because they worked at the relationship the entire time they were together and loved each other more for it. Love can never be as deep if you don’t work at it… there basically no respect when the other person is just there ya know? I dunno, that’s just my 2 words.

Zanessa forever.
They are the cuttest couple on EARTH.

Also, Sasha, you might want to try reading some the posts on the previous 2-3 pages where you will find many accounts of people who have been married anywhere from 15-30 years who can attest to the fact they have NOT found their marriage to be “work”.

Sasha,

Your comments in your #402 post has completely a different “ring” to it than you #407 post. In the first one it comes across that you are only trying to “bash” her for something or to find fault. Sometimes we should allow a celebrity a little breathing room as they are on the spot and they know everything is being examined with a fine-tooth comb so they try to be careful but sometimes their words are twisted or are not taken in their full meaning. They usually never get to have someone say “why did you say that?” or “what exactly did you mean by that?” so they never get to elaborate on what they were meaning or saying. We all misinterpret other people’s meanings sometimes. But I can tell you—and that’s why I said in my second post to go back and read the previous 2-3 pages—that I know couples who have been married for over 20 years that insist it has not been “work”(toil) and some who have worked diligently every step of the way. We don’t always know what keeps relationships together and some fall apart. I think it has to do with the type people and the given circumstances in that relationship. But I would say after being together for 3 years and having separations for more than a 2 week period more than once, they have bee able to “work” out those situations that could bring trouble. Plus, they certainly do seem like two people who have each other’s backs and do do thinks for each other to make the other one happy. So, right now—and more importantly—when she said what she did, she felt that way. If questioned further, I’m sure she would admit it take effort. Her own parents have been married for at least 20 years so I’m sure she has seen what a marriage consists of.

My gripe is that too many people simply want to find something that they can post against her—and this is the latest thing. I think it is awful she is SO scrutinized for EVERYTHING she does or says. She is, afterall, only 19. And maybe she was trying to help the teens by saying in her way, you should be happy in a relationship, not run over. I have watched young teenage girls “work” their butts off to please someone only to be taken advantage of or they are constantly doing something to make the other person happy but the same respect is not shown to them and they do all these things to keep the relationship together. I feel that many times girls are made to feel like they are the one who needs to sacrifice and make a relationship happy or successful.

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Agreethe love should be there and then that’s when the work starts to see just how deep both parties feel about that love and where it could lead to and also to see how it develops and how deep it is to.

you need to be able to also have fun in your relactionship, share things that only couple’s feel they can share with each other,know when to give each other space all these things take work but work whatever it iscomes at all levels and some is more enjoyable than other’s but the effort that is put in does’nt make the relactionship any less meaning than being with your partner 24/7

With me and my husband we mainly saw each other at weekends becuase we both worked in the week and only saw each other maybe 2 times in the week but even then we always made time for each other and hanging out with each other just like Vanessa and Zac do and we’re now 20 years together and three kids still going strong.

I feel that Vanessa is right to make a career for herself and enjoy herself while she is young just like Zac is loving what he is doing, but their connection is something that has been their from day one and all troubles they have faced not just with Vanessa’s slipup but with constant breakup rumours, gay rumours, they have dealt with them as a couple and given each other tons of support,all becuase they don’t broadcast how they deal with these things does’nt make what they have any less meaningful just means they want to keep it between the two of them like it has always been. And I say good for them

Sasha,
A lot of people have complained she only got popular after the much ballyhooed picture and that is why so many people want to harp on it when she gets some attention. BUT in actuality that is not the truth. All the HSM cast were getting attention after the first HSM aired as it was so popular and word quickly spread about them making HSM2. All through the time HSM1 aired and the filming of HSM2 there were whispers and gossip that these two were dating. Now, grant it, this fact was not getting the same attention that it does now but a lot of people—mostly teens at that time—were definitely interested in these two more than the other kids from HSM. THEN came the pictures from their vacation in Hawaii. It hit the two like a ton of bricks. Like Zac explained: “Who would have thought that anyone would even care?” He and Vanessa were not trying to be seen and the guy who followed them even left Zac a note at his hotel saying “Thanks for the Land Rover”. So it was a shock to these two kids they had ever been photographed. THEN HSM hit like a hurricane and everyone was dogging these two kids who tried to keep their relationship low-keyed. But the fact is BOTH Zac and Vanessa were very popular before THAT picture even became public. They only got positive stuff said about them then. THEN someone who wanted to make a buck or got resentful or jealous of Vanessa got hold of that picture and stabbed her in the back with it. That is when all the negative stuff started. Grant it, more people may have become aware of her but I don’t think that is the way she wanted to become well known. Also, Zanessa became such a fact that they were all over. BUT the picture DID NOT make her popular. You and some others may not have been so much aware of her before the picture but the fact is she still was in great demand before that picture came out. I—who am 54 year old—knew who she was before HSM2 had finished filming. AND because she was in great demand is why that picture ever got released by the said “sour-grapes” person. If she hadn’t been of interest that picture would have not meant or been worth anything. As you said in your post “Honestly the only thing I don’t like about her is that after her little ‘incident’…she became really popular for some stupid reason…” But you say that is one of the reason you don’t like her but yet have to admit it wasn’t her fault.

I don’t know how they are when they are alone. But they aren’t the type of couple to make out in public. They have a nice private relationship and they seem to make that last for them.

Even after High School Musical 3 is over. They still have a great chance to stay together, they are obviously serious. If they wasn’t, they wouldn’t of denied it for freaking two years!!!

and i do need it because he’s turned all closed on me because of that soo it drives me MAD i know he loves me and feels the same, someone please give me a PROVEN way to have him feel safe and loved beyond all belief, and i know he loves me through and through but i kinda need him to feel that pull so that he feels like he can’t hide ANYTHING. no i’m NOT trying to manipulate him i just need him to see and feel no problems with speaking to me.

Karen when I said that I didn’t mean I don’t like her, I meant like… I guess just the entire situation made me a bit spiteful towards her… like if something was posted here about her I’d just skip it (except if she was wearing something that caught my eye than I’d take notes) just like I would for Paris Hilton. I can’t say I don’t like her because I don’t know her myself (though she seems like a sweet girl) and I’ve neve seen her act. I do know what you mean by yeah, by that time she was a rising star but it seems like that (still) is mostly what is asked of her in interviews, what people want to know about. Little girls look up to people like her and they might think ‘well Vanessa Hudgens did this so it must be cool’ and even though they’re 14 they do it. From what I know of, I can’t think of a response to that she ever gave that made sure that those girls that age knew it wasn’t cool for them to do it. Like I can’t remember an interview that said something along the lines of “I’m 18 years old, which technically makes me an adult, I’m in a commited relationship and if I wasn’t I wouldn’t have done it.”. But if she did than please inform me I’d love to know.

they are cute , but i think Ashley and zac would of made a really cute couple !

Sasha:

I hope I cover everything here that I want to cover in regards to your last post. FIRST, let me say that those people who immediately jumped on this business how she was a bad role model and it would make other “little girls” want to do this too, etc, certainly didn’t know much about human nature or just didn’t think things through very well—and probably didn’t care. I believe that kind of comment came first and foremost from bashers who were just looking for something in which to insult her and make her seem less “perfect”. Then other people jumped on the bandwagon and said the same thing and some still want to use that line of stupidity. Why is it stupid? Because 99% of girls who are 14 and under will never be swayed to do this picture thing JUST BECAUSE Vanessa Hudgens did it. Most 14—even many 15 year olds—-and younger would just die to even think of being naked in front of a boy. They are not thinking sex or of being naked and just because someone like an “idol” did it will not make them do it because they are not ready to do it—they are still not comfortable about such things—not should they be. IF, however, a girl is that age and thinks she will do it, it won’t be because of Vanessa. Those girls are already rather “active” for whatever the reason may be—which I won’t discuss now. Now, some older people like parents who have girls ages 12-14 may have been scared their daughters would do it because of Vanessa, but if they thought about it and were mature themselves they would know better. I don’t know if I was ever naive, but I wouldn’t have even wanted to take my clothes off in front of some boy at that age. Plus, if the mother has been doing her job the girl of that age would know that is not acceptable behavior—and parents have much more influence over their child than some celebrity has anyway. Some parents are never comfortable in talking sex to their kids and want to put it off at all cost so they blame anyone that might cause the subject to emerge before they think their kids are ready to hear it. The problem is most kids know it all from the “streets” before they parent truly gets around to telling their child the “truth” or the “facts of life”. Plus, parents cannot be coy and uncomfortable themselves about talking to their girls about such things since kids are exposed to so much more these days—they grow up faster. So, a very minute number of very young girls would ever be swayed by that picture so there is no reason for Vanessa to be blamed for such a thing. And girls should not be told things like “Only dirty girls do that” or “Only sl**ts would do that”, etc. That only causes girls to get the wrong impression so when they get to be a certain age then they suddenly are forced to get a different perspective on things, if you know what I mean. So, they have this confusion going on in their psyche.

Also, it is never good to look at some human being as being perfect or as an “idol”. When you do that you will ALWAYS be disappointed and eventually you will be let down because NOBODY is perfect. And perhaps your views of what is perfect is will not be what someone else’s will be. Nobody can or will always live up to your expectations. I let myself down sometimes because I can’t be as perfect as I want to be since I’m not perfect. Life is easier if you are not so hard on yourself or others. All you can do is the best you can and allow the other person to be the same—maybe you think they can be better but maybe they are doing the best they can too. Maybe they just had a slip in judgment or a weak moment—and the same will happen to you at some point whether it be this or something else, so learn to forgive.

Lastly, as soon as this happened Vanessa came forward and admitted it was her—which should be what one would want a person to do, face up and be adult and truthful when it hits them in the face. She could have lied like many celebrities do or make excuses for it or blame someone else, but she didn’t do that. That took courage but nobody wanted to give her credit for that. Also, immediately she APOLOGIZED to those it may have hurt and said she wished she had not taken the picture. I don’t know what else people wanted—well, actually I do, they wanted her to tell everything about the pictures and how it come to be and who it was for, etc, and that’s the truth. She had been the one who had been wronged so no other explanation was required whether they wanted it or not. It was her personal business and it was private. Some said she was 15 but maybe she was 17, maybe 18 but it didn’t matter—it was PRIVATE and she said she was sorry, she couldn’t make it go away like it didn’t happen so why should she have to say anything more. However, she did speak about this in in depth in the February issue of Seventeen magazine. I was going to write it down but I’m quickly running out of space here. SO, all you have to do is go back in the archives here on JJ as he printed it

i honestly think zac is a ***(:
but v is so adorable! shes awesome and i think her new song”sneakernight” is okay but then also ******* lameeee haha,
i bet you zac doesnt even shower like vanessa says he does, his hair looks greasy half of the time and probably stinks like **** too. STOP TALKING ABOUT THESE TWO JARED. no one really cares about v and zac together. im pretty much over their whole “zanessa” crap. i think vah would be better off with someone else! sorry if i offended anyone;D but thats just my opnion