Suri Cruise: Happy Fourth of July!

I am making the point that I am not sure how much they are making public and how much is the paparazzi, media spin, and blogger spin. If putting their faces out there is going to lunch, shopping, a park, a parade or any other normal thing a human being might do, I do not believe that is them putting themselves out there. I think they are living lives.

And I am not making excuses for them. I really do not see what horrible things they have done. They live an exraordianry life. Tom has stated some religous beliefs that are controversial and was a bit over zealous about somethings he is passionate about. I may not agree with him, but it does not hurt me or anyone else. I know next to nothing about Scientology, but I say grasp on to whatever makes you a better person. I hope that is what it is for him. He seems to believe it is.

I agree they are lucky, but I also think it would be hard to have the things said about them and their children that are said, particularly their children. There are terrible things going on in the world at all times…now more than ever, but that does not take away from a persons personal hurt when things are said that are not nice. I think about world events, politics (a ton), and social injustices, but that does not mean I would not be sad and angered if someone called my daughter ugly or suggested she was not her fathe’s daughter. I would be hurt and furious…and I also have a happy, blessed life (on a much different level).

I was reading this to procrastinate on some work, but got sucked in the conversation while I do my research. I think I got disturbed when I started reading comments about Suri and Connor that made my heart sink-which is hat triggered me to take up for them. (I have never been tempted to blog on a “celebrity” site before today-I usually use it as a 10 minute escape). It is really upsetting to think that Connor or his friends could be surfing and find some of these comments..and one day Suri, too. How are they going to explain to Suri one day the comments about her not being Tom’s? There are consequences to these statements for a little innocent girl, but no one seems to care. And there are consequences for innocent Connor…and Isabella when she is included or even as a member of a family being bashed.

If Tom Cruise had donated any sum of money the public woul know. Technically speaking, there is no such thing as a “private donation”. Sure they title it that way, and may even call it an anonymous donation, but all donatons are claimed through the IRS and the info can be gathered by the most diligent researcher. Tom gives to his church. in his eyes that is charity. I the eyes of the world that is just feeding the cult.

The set of Katie’s last film was in Shreveport Louisianna. I never once read about her touring the devistated areas of New Orleans, nor have you heard of them actually donating money to any of the Gulf area that was destroyed. But you’ve read about all the others and no…not just Mr. Pitt and Oprah,. there were others as well. Tom could visit Katiea and between th two of them they could fly in Gino’s Pizza from hicago or treat the cast and crew ice cream, but they couldn’t be bother with a quik visit to see people who “really” need a hand up and a little aid. No they could’t. ust like throwing a wedding in a region that needed the hype to bring in business but instead of bringing in ocal vendors they shut them and the towns people out, choosing instead to fly in is…that and the other.

People keep going on and on about how much they respect this family and how wonderful they are. Well please tell me, just what makes them so wonderful outside of that golden pedestal that we in the US love mounting celebrities on, And then tell me just why they deserve such respect from their fellow man…the fellow man they clearly show nothing but disdain for.

Don’t tell me you’re suggesting that Kay is works for TomKat or other such idiocy just because she’s a good enough person to defend them against such vicious things, #201? Anyone could turn that around on you and say that you’re working for Nicole Kidmanbecause you’re hating on them so much?

And those other things you said were dumb too. Not only is Katie Holmes smiling in every one of those pics, she has a right to be unhappy when it comes to non-superficial reasons like hurtful, untrue comments about her family no matter how much money she has

I was writing conversationally. I am sorry if you could not follow. I had no intention of being sneaky in any discussion.

Of course life is not fair, but I try to be. I don’t really get why anyone would knowingly make unfair statements or knowingly be unfair in any way…but to each their own. I was only pointing out that stating something or implying something that may or may not be true is not very nice. And I never said he cared. I cared. It was not a statement based on any first hand knowledge. It was a negative assumption.

I disagree that this will not cause the children an ounce of hurt. Have you been living on the moon? People have emotions and feelings can be hurt. Have you ever been on a school yard and heard some of the silly things that are said by children and how hurtful it can be to them? This is a lot bigger than that. This is published on the internet for the world to see. These serious accusations and there is really no way to protect their children from this. It exists an they have to deal with it at some point. they are probably already dealing with it with the older two.

I really think tht a lot of bloggers write as though they are protected by anonymity and can say whatever they choose without worrying about how it could make people feel. I mean, what if people said these thing to you or about your children? It is very easy to say that you would rise above it and it would not hurt, but I doubt that is the truth.

I have no intention of having any influence on anything. .

I agree with Kay as well. I have no feeling about TC or KH either way.

The issue is the negative comments about the children. I have 3 teenage kids and it is a difficult time for them without having to deal with rude comments coming from media sources, including blogging. I think that line should no be crossed. Words do hurt, but particularly children. Right now my focus is how much it can hurt teenagers. Words can stick with them for a very long time. It is really disgusting that people chose to spend their time slandering children.

Nicole Kidman is about to give birth and her children are not allowed to be with her. Disgusting!

Kay,

Yes, these comments are hurtful to a child and I agree that the anonymity provided by the internet afford people the brazenness to say them. However, this is not different from life which has been for thousands of years. Back then people gathered in circles and whispered, embellished heard tales observations of people they didn’t like, and speculated. And somehow words did spread. The only difference perhaps is money profit aspect of this and the shameful thing is that the profiteers are men nowadays. Then again it may not be different at all, for we women like to gossip in secret and know that it’s a shameful thing to do so we shy away from profiting from it.

I don’t condone vile comments about children. I found nothing wrong in Connor carrying the bag hence I made no comment on it. But I am a firm believer, by first hand experience, that the hurtful comments about paternity are dismissible by the parents if they have no reason to worry, have fueled none of the fires that blew these smoke stacks, have shown the children more love than hurt (I said this because teenagers will always have moments thinking parents don’t love them, are selfish, etc). These hurts will also build the children’s strength which enable them to survive hardships. The children, no matter how young they are, tend to know the truth about their parents deep down. After all, they lived their entire life with these people, not the strangers who spun idle gossips (again I’m speaking from experience in both positions).

It is quite hard to sway people’s opinions when we are not the couple ourselves. Even the couple could not sway public opinion because theirs is a life built on and revolved around publicity and their profession is acting. It’s hard to take what they say or do at 100% sincere or honest when we know they can act and they do publicity campaigns such as an Oprah show or a magazine spread about their home life. Are we to believe they are good actors and at the same time believe that there is no acting in these campaigns? I know most of us do not want to be taken for a fool. When these people stand up for what they like or believe despite the lost of their money and fame, I’ll perceive there is honesty in their words and actions. And the blame for the hurtful and/or speculative comments about their children lies with them, the parents, not the gossip mongers. The mongers are tactless and cruel, but they should not be reprimanded alone and be expected to provide these children’s psychological welfare.

If we were to be moral police then we shouldn’t stop by these blogs in the first place. For doing so is enabling the profiteer. But if you chose to be the defender of this couple and their children, or any celebrity, every time you write something that allude to facts, back it up with evidences so you can succeed.

Have fun!

More pics of them.JJ. PUH-LEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First, a friendly advice. If you got sucked into this because of 10 minutes break from work then take it from me who went through the same thing and is now debating with you, see if you can leave and return to your sane world before it’s too late.

Now:

Re: a child always know his/her parents. I said this from the perspective of a child who was ‘victim’ of gossip monger about my not being my father’s kid. I did feel hurt but I resembled my father enough that I did not dwell on it. I did not want to divulge my personal info but alas such is the way debates go, to prove one’s knowledge of something, one is always forced to divulge personal or close circle’s info. Your husband thinking his adoptive parents his biological parents is testament to the power of love parents (of any kind) could give a child. What is hurtful about his thinking they are his biological parents? I don’t quite understand your point. Perhaps it is so because you are just doing the same thing you accused me of doing: supporting your points and refusing to see mine. This, by the way, is absolutely normal so I wouldn’t fault you for doing it had you not done it to me.

Did I say gossip is good? No it’s not. But honestly, and please do admit to yourself for it’d not make you a less attractive human being for doing so, we all like to read or hear a tad of gossip from time to time for entertaining. Why else would you look for celebrity sites?

Well, you didn’t suggest anything. Neither did I. But the fact remains that people will read your words as an insinuation of some sort or a speculation of some kind. Your arguing your points now attest to this tendency of humans, doesn’t it?

I find it humourous that you stated ‘For all we know he donates’. You stated fact is my perception. And perception is what’s going on at these blogs and it is what I’m trying to lead you to realize with my posts. If you had stayed with comments about the children, I wouldn’t have said you stated fact.

So how can Tom Cruise stop this spewing of hurtful comments about his children?

Realistically? It’s too late. He chose his profession, chose to let people into his life by providing tidbits of his love life, marriage, children to the world. He mounted campaigns to promote his movies, his belief, etc. So it is unfortunate that he has cracked his door open and will never be able to shut it tight again. That’s life.

The thing about a child knowing if the parent are biological or not was initially directed at the Suri-Tom thing. You said she would know In a nut shell) based on your experience. I did not agree that she would not have doubt or not. Even if she did not, it is a mena thing to asay. My entire point is it is no body’s place to make the statements that she is not. It ireally is coming from a bad place to make that statement.

I am not talking about the fluff gossip. I am talking about the serious, hurtful gossip…the mean stuff. I think we agree here.

The “for all we know” is not a fact. It was not meant as a fact. It was the devil’s advocate. He may do good we do not know about. It is a possibility. We do not know.

I am not contracdicting myself. I am not discussing the fluff gossip. My issue was the malicous gossip. I am not saying any gossip is good, but simply stating the malicious gossip is out of line-particularly about the children.

“Nicole Kidman is about to give birth and her children are not allowed to be with her. Disgusting!”

Who says they’re not allowed? Who says they could ever be forbidden from such events in the first place?