OlderMon, 07 July 2008 at 4:21 pm
Jennifer Aniston is Smartwater Savvy
Jennifer Aniston’s newest ad for her Smartwater campaign has been put up on the Hyatt Hotel on West Hollywood’s Sunset Blvd.
The caption reads, “I love the reflection of water (but what I drink is a reflection of me).” Head down to Sunset Boulevard if you want to see a seven-stories-high Jennifer Aniston!
The 38-year-old actress was last seen backstage cheering on her boyfriend John Mayer during his 90-minute set at the Rothbury Festival in Rothbury, Mich.
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Pardon me Orchid, my friend. But this time Jen Fan is correct. These words, that have been used towards Jen’s fans (no name mentioned, so it could be anybody): shallow, liquid brain, retarded, drunk (at least I was asked), stupid piece of crap and many others which I can not really track.
Generalization hurts, you know. But you are somehow different. You always try to take the middle way (you are not Buddhist, are you?), and try always the best you can to respect the other side. If you wrote something, it seemed like, that you have considered from many sides, and especially, the feelings of other. That’s what I love about you (May Aphrodite always be with you!).
Why? Because we like Jen? As much as I respect Angelina’s works, there is something about her that I can not forget. How easy it was for her and Pitt to act as if Jen was a piece of **** (at the beginning of their relationship). What did Jen do to deserve all those performances (especially the cover of a magazine -you know which-)? Jen had not done anything harm to Angelina, had she? Why did they do that? What had Jen done to Angelina (they were strangers at that time, weren’t they?). I mean she is a woman, a strong one -just like many of her fans say- but why did she do that? I still don’t understand. May be you can explain it to me. Make me understand.
It is very easy to leave. But it is goddamn hard to be left behind. Because there are questions which can not be answered easily. Was it me, or was it the one who left me?
And no, I am not Jen. I only try to understand the whole thing. We were left behind, once or twice in our lives, it doesn’t have to be Jen’s life all the time.
Ah, dear Orchid. Don’t be angry with my question. For I still want to talk to you!
rien @ 07/14/2008 at 12:35 am
that was very well said…i feel the exact same way…i myself don’t understand! well said!
429 rien @ 07/14/2008 at 12:35 am
These words, that have been used towards Jen’s fans (no name mentioned, so it could be anybody): shallow, liquid brain, retarded, drunk (at least I was asked), stupid piece of crap and many others which I can not really track.
Is that all?
I’ve seen worse on other sites, and have you ever visited FF? On the internet you meet all kinds of people in all the many discussion boards. Unless you can deal with all the different personalities, and different IQs. don’t be on the net. Some people use profanities, others don’t.
I skip the posts I don’t like, but I join in when I see a statement that can’t be backed up, or I see an obvious lie.
As much as I respect Angelina’s works, there is something about her that I can not forget. How easy it was for her and Pitt to act as if Jen was a piece of **** (at the beginning of their relationship). What did Jen do to deserve all those performances (especially the cover of a magazine -you know which-)? Jen had not done anything harm to Angelina, had she? Why did they do that?
I forgot the name of that magazine. I’ve seen many of the pics on the net. It’s possible that some people told him that it was insensitive, and who knows, if he could turn the clock back he would do things differently, but you can’t turn the clock back!
What had Jen done to Angelina (they were strangers at that time, weren’t they?). I mean she is a woman, a strong one -just like many of her fans say- but why did she do that? I still don’t understand. May be you can explain it to me. Make me understand.
As outsiders we don’t have a clue how it was in BP’s marriage. We don’t know what happened exactly, and it’s none of our business. All we know is what we read and we saw pictures. What happened to JA has happened to many other women. There’s no difference!
Wellknown women whose divorces I ‘followed’ were Ivana Trump and Anna Murdoch. Last week the golfer Greg Norman married the tennis champ Chris Evert after acrimonious divorces from their spouses. Both their spouses accused them of cheating.
JA fans seem to think that her divorce is the first ever. I’m also puzzled that it’s always AJ they blame. If they need to blame someone it’s Brad. HE was in that marriage! He and JA were responsible for the failure of that marriage.
After meeting AJ, and getting to know her when making Mr&Mrs Smith, and enjoying playing with Maddox (according to the stories), at the time in his life when he yearned to be a dad, and after thinking it over, he decided that being with them was what he wanted.
Trump, Murdoch and Norman have also been seen with their new partners after they separated from their wives. There is no difference to what happened to JA.
Maybe because BP is a famous movie star leaving one of the popular ‘Friends,’ the tabloids were all over their split, following them everywhere, and making up stories.
It is very easy to leave. But it is goddamn hard to be left behind.
I can imagine, yes, and it happens to many people. All over the world people split.
Because there are questions which can not be answered easily. Was it me, or was it the one who left me?
Questions like that can only be answered by the people involved, not outsiders.
Anyway, haven’t JA fans claimed that she dumped him? JA also started to see someone else, soon after they separated.
This is old stuff. I don’t know why we’re talking about it again!
# 429 Orchid @ 07/14/2008 at 2:41 am
I agree with every single word!! That is so true!!
420 # 420 Jill @ 07/13/2008 at 3:42 am
Share the joy, everybody! Angelina gave birth to a boy and a girl on Saturday night!
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Hmmm! I don’t see why it’s difficult to be happy for other people welcoming babies. I know that rien has congratulated B&A in one of the JP threads. I guess bet is busy studying! :wink:
funny @ 07/07/2008 at 5:05 pm
It’s funny how she is the champion for the average looking woman of America. I was watching “what not to wear” over the weekend and there was a few women on their that looked just like her and it just proved to me JA appeal to so many and why she can’t do not wrong in their eyes and that is because they see themselves in her. She looks like them. There’s nothing intimidating or striking about her. She’s safe or at least they think. That is why so many of them hurt for her when Brad moved on because for the first time the average looking girl bagged a hott guy. Of course not knowing that their innocent little jen jen slept with him on the first date and moved in 3 days later, which to me speak volumes for her insecurity & shallowness. Look at Tate Donovan whom she lived with & broke off her engagement to be with Brad, he was not that good looking. She felt the only way to snag Brad was to him tricks in the bed.
So sad but yet she is deemed as a role model to her fans. She didn’t even date him. She skipped straight to bed and moved in and yet you guys make it seem like it was some great love affair/romance between them. It was a rebound relationship for Brad and a hope to get higher in the food chain for Jennifer, basically a relationship of convenience. The PR staff and the media is the one who sold you the lies of a great love. If it was love they would have gotten to know each other before moving in, it was a business deal right from the beginning. They even spoke of each other as so, rather than a couple in love.
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Thanks so much for this wonderful post. Spot on.
um @ 07/07/2008 at 5:57 pm
Sorry, her body is not rare…i mean not where i come from where those bodies are considered average looking in a place where most are long legged and leanly curvaceous.
Tired of people selling her body like a rarity. Even in Hollywood standard, other actresses, older than her have prettier bodies. Try some of the soap operas, Eileen Davidson, 49 and Katherine Kelly Lang, 47 mother of 3, banging bodies !. Hell Janet, 42 when in shape and Latoya, 55 have better bodies. Michelle Preiffer, 50, 2 kids, stunning body and face eventhough she is not known as a eager trainer to maintain her shape.
In the petite version, Kylie Minogue and Toni Braxton, both 40 have better bodies. Even long legged Celine Dion, 40 and mother of 1 has a better body. I never heard a single fan of her selling her body like a rarity.
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Exactly. My favorite is Diane Lane.
You/Me @ 07/07/2008 at 6:04 pm
Some of you people are beyond immature and just plain dumb. What, you think there are no dark-skinned Americans, unless you are lily white you have to be “international”? And another thing, if this were Angelina then you would be praising the skies above about what a wonderful, glorious ad this is. Pretentious indeed, more like many of the so-called Brangelina fans are pretentious hypocrites. I can see why Brad & Angie hate their fans. There is no way on God’s green earth that Brad or Angie would respect any of you who rag on Jen, especially considering Angie’s past. EVERYONE makes mistakes, and if any of you thought Jen made mistakes after she and Brad split in the way she handled things….big f*cking deal! Angie’s done worse than speak ill of someone and yet look at how her “fans” idolize her. The deal here is that Angie’s fans comapre her too much to Jen and find her lacking so they attack Jen…..it must make Angie sick.
Jen is beautiful and this ad is gorgeous. And all you haters that are talking sh*t please, please do not call yourselves Angelina Jolie fans because you are nothing like what she would want representing her :-)
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You’re the biggest c*cksucking liar. Please stay out of our Angelina threads.
It is true that it is old stuff. But we have our own reasons why we like somebody and we don’t like the other. It is not because we dumb or stupid I know that there are a lot of worse site than JJ. I don’t visit them anymore, because I want to have piece.
But as you said, on your own post (#425), if JP fans accused us (Jen’s fans), then it must have been something we wrote. Then why are we accused of having liquid brain simply because Jen promoted water? And I was asked if I was a drunk or retarded, because of what? What did I write that indicated me as such a person? Because I criticized Angelina (which is rarely) or is it because I commented you, or what?
I don’t mean you. But Angelina’s fans are not all holly and nice. Some words about Jen is also not better than the words in FF or others. There are extreme fans from both side, and with these kinds of person the only cure we can have is like what you said, skip it.
And I am sorry that I brought the old stuff up because I want to understand the whole thing. We fight against each other (I dramatized a little bit) because of Jen and Angelina. But like you said, if there was somebody else to blame, then it would be Pitt. But until now, nobody (almost nobody -from Angelina’s fans) blamed Pitt, or at least asked him: Boy, what the hell did you do? And Angelina, as a woman, should have had more sensitivity, because she should put herself in other woman’s shoes and think for a while, what would she feel if somebody else did the same thing to her.
And I can understand You/Me, because I have the same opinion,
There is no way on God’s green earth that Brad or Angie would respect any of you who rag on Jen, especially considering Angie’s past.
Sorry, I mean FF and not JJ, JJ is considered mild .
@Angie fan @ 07/13/2008 at 2:58 am
I am not going to dignify your comment with a response
to rien
Angie fans like me have been called worst names but we accept the fact that it comes with the territory. Jen fans to be sensitve of what brad and angie fans comment about them should also accept the fact that making nasty comments about brad and angie is asking for retaliation. By retaliating we are making jen fans aware that brad and angie got fans who love and support them just like you jen fans love and support your idol.
I believe i have already posted before that JP fans like me make comments about jen fans in retaliation of what jen fans wrote about brad and angie. Nasty comments against brad and angie were not made by jen but by her fans. It is unreasonable to retaliate against jen when she was not the one who posted the nasty comments. Would you rather have fans of brad and angie retaliate on jen who did not make the comment in the first place.
Jen could have prevented this animosity between the fans if she had not done the Vf Interview or appeared on Oprah. Instead jen perpetuated the bermuda triangle by making her divorce public and tried to win sympathy from her friends and fans. Nic and tom cruise’s divorce never got this dirty because nic chose the high road and never gave an interview. Kudos to jen lopez for being mum when she broke off her engagement with ben afleck.
Jen creating this mess had not won her any respect or sympathy but made her look insecure and bitter. Jen fans are compounding jen’s already insecure and bitter persona by attacking angie.
What is puzzling is why do jen fans still go after angie when jen is already with john mayer. Why the bitterness about a divorce that is not even their own. jen fans should be more concerned about jen’s relationship with john not brad or angie.
rien @ 07/14/2008 at 3:55 am
I stand to disagree about what you call angie’s past. Angie’s past was created by the media not by angie. Angie was married when she was 19. What kind of past can she have when she was married before she met brad. Angie was a married woman befpre brad. As for being sensitive about jen’s feelings it was a known fact all over the world that brad and jen are already in the process of separating. Brad would have left jen even without angie. Was jen sensitive when she thanked everyone except brad in her speech and when she said brad was not the love of her life. Surely those two incidents are tell tale signs that they are headed for divorce with or without angie.
Rien, you try to portray yourself as being non judgemental but here you are accusing angie of a past. What kind of past since everyone got a past and so does jen. Angie is just one of those people who is affront and doesn’t portray herself as being miss perfect since no one is miss perfect. Here you are complaining about an angie fan attack when you are asking for a retaliation. Just like you fans of angie and brad will read your comment as an assault.
Brad was formerly engaged to gwyn and jen was engaged to tate danovan when they met. Have you asked too if jen was senstive about how tate felt when she dumped him for brad. There are rumors too about jen sleeping her way to the top so don’t tell me jen don’t have a past like most everyone else in hollywood. There are a lot of rumors too about jen but that is the past so don’t accuse angie of a past you don’t even know nothing about. If jen was really the poor victim that she or her fans are trying to portray her to be then why was jen humping vince even before the divorce? What about paul?
rien @ 07/14/2008 at 12:35 am
As much as I respect Angelina’s works, there is something about her that I can not forget. How easy it was for her and Pitt to act as if Jen was a piece of **** (at the beginning of their relationship).
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Rien, you are making the very common mistake of blaming “the other woman” when a marriage breaks up. Angelina did not break up Brad’s marriage. Brad broke up his own marriage. If he had not left her for Angelina, he would have left her for someone else. By 2004 the marriage was OVER. Aniston wasn’t even wearing her wedding ring any more! The marriage was, to all intents and purposes, dead. Throwing all the blame on Angelina just lets Aniston off the hook and helps her evade responsibliity for looking at her part in why the marriage failed. It’s silly to blame the other woman. What was Angelina supposed to do, go into a nunnery while Aniston “healed”? Angelina was not to blame for a marriage that was but dead before she ever met Brad and its time Aniston’s fans started facing that fact.
I believe many of Aniston’s fans like her because they see themselves in her. She’s all on the surface. There is nothing complex about her. What you see is what you get. You see her hanging out with her friends and hanging out by the pool and going to the beach and the beauty parlor and walking the dogs. And that’s all you see, because that’s all there is to her. There isn’t anything else. To me, that is superficial. Ask her fans what’s so good about her, and the first thing 90% of them will say is how great she looks in a bikini. For a woman going on 40, that is ridiculous. She’s not a 20-something any more. She’s a grown woman who doesn’t seem to take any interest in anything outside her own superficial activities. In other words, she is boring. Maybe that appeals to her fans but it doesn’t appeal to anyone else, and I don’t think it appealed much to Brad Pitt. That’s one reason he’s no longer with her and maybe one reason she can’t maintain a relationship. She’s clingy and needy and boring. It’s not an attractive combo.
You bring up Angelina’s “past” again for the umpteenth time, as if she is the only woman on earth who had one. Yes, she was a wild child who did some crazy things. Like most wild children, she grew up, got her act together and put her past behind her. That’s what her fans find so fascinating about her. She went from being a self-centered, self-destructive drughead to being a very good actress, a dedicated humanitarian and a devoted mother and life partner. She is someone to look up to for what she has achieved. You don’t look up to someone who lays around by the swimming pool all day long and does nothing for anybody else.
Finally, you cannot dismiss the fact that not only have Aniston’s fans attacked Angelina in the crudest possible terms (slút, whóre, etc. etc.), they have also made the most vicious attacks against her children. They have insulted her children in the most despicable racial terms and wished death on them. They call her oldest child “Maggot”. What kind of person attacks a six year old like that? We read these attacks on innocent children and on Angelina and all we can think is that if this is the kind of fans Aniston attracts, then what does this say about Aniston? Her fans are the reason so many J-P fans despise Aniston. With fans like that, she doesn’t need enemies.
Dear Angie Fan,
Nobody makes “our pasts” but ourselves. If the media bring them up again and again, then because it is recorded somewhere.
Like I said in the beginning, I tried to understand the whole things. Of course, Jen is responsible with the breaking off of her marriage, and so is Pitt. The only thing that I don’t understand is, what Angelina did on the cover of a magazine. I don’t judge her, I tried to understand the reason behind it. Yes, Jen is not the only and the first woman who is divorced. But it doesn’t mean what Angelina and Pitt did was correct.
I agree with what you said, some extreme fans commented with bad and cruel words. But it doesn’t mean all Jen’s fans did it. If I used the words, you were free to call me whatever you wanted. But since I do not, then you are not free to generalize all fans.
And about Pitt, for somebody who found Aniston not attractive or appealing, he stayed for 5 years together! Ever wonder why?
rien,
In all fairness, Jolie has been called worse things than Aniston and has gotten ill curses from those I could only presume to be Aniston’s fans as they rarely failed to mention the word ‘cheater’ or Aniston’s name in their posts. The vulgar phrases you listed are mild. My kid calls almost every one dumb, retarded, and so on. I don’t like names calling but apparently it is a trivial matter nowadays.
In regard to the magazine spread you mentioned, I did not and don’t see it as a performance on Jolie’s part to hurt Aniston. She was contractual bound to promote M&MS and she had to do what she was asked to do. But this point isn’t significant. What is significant is that by then Aniston HAD FILED for divorce. By virtue of her action, she should not have felt hurt. I have read that BP let her file to save her grace, that she filed because she was tired of his cheating behind, etc. What ever the reason was the indisputable fact is that SHE FILED which means SHE WANTED TO DIVORCE him. So why would you feel the need to think that she felt hurt. In life you can’t have it both ways. You can’t be the victor and victim both but at your selective whim. The moment the divorce is filed, each party is free to pursue other love interest. Aniston was pictured sitting on Vaughn’s lap not long after her filing. Pitt & Jolie were merely acting in a photo spread. Please look at fashion magazines. There are married models posing naked and kissing passionately with other male models on every one of them. Are they being insensitive to their husbands?
As Orchid said, people divorced every day. Some where on earth this very minute a woman is left. And mind you, 99% of these women are left with children, several of them in many cases and in many the children are young too, and 99% of these women are not left with millions to keep prettying themselves up for new love prospect. Aniston is in the 1% of the 1% here so she does not need sympathy. I am more inclined to say she doesn’t deserve one from us regular folk.
As for Jolie having a past. What have you learned from Greek mythology I wonder. Even Zeus has flaws. He cheated on his wife Hera constantly. All Gods schemed to suit their own hearts. Please don’t be the well read that learned little. Jolie’s past isn’t more colorful than that of her peers. She cut herself in her youth. Trivial! She overcame it on her own; this is admirable because it shows she has mettle to overcome vicissitudes in life. She kissed her brother on the lips, hard. Normal to me too although I came from non-kissing culture. I kiss my sons on the lips too, very hard when I feel an overflowing of love for them. Any one reads incest in the kiss is sick in the mind herself, not me. She showered her then husband with sexual affection in public. Nothing improper with that. She simply a passionate woman who keeps nothing locked in her heart. She loves foolishly and wholeheartedly and when she loves she gushes about her beloved, putting him on cloud nine, worrying nothing about the possibility of failure or disappointment of love in the future. That my dear is love in its purest form. If you expect to be catered to then you don’t really love. There’s really nothing wrong with being a passionately loving woman. Every man wants his woman to show the public her passion for him; it smooths his vanity a great deal. Trust me, all men have this sort of vanity.
If you can’t stop judging Jolie, or any woman, by her past, I suggest you stop studying Greek mythology, or any mythology. For you have failed to understand the true messages of these myths.
rien,
I haven’t heard BP saying he found JA unattractive. This is his fanatic’s fans’ words. It could be that he found her attractive and six years later found her no longer attractive for whatever reason. It could be that he wanted to make his marriage work like his parents’ did. We don’t know his real reason. The only thing matters is that he has moved on and so has Aniston. You should stop wondering about other people’s business.
Do you know for a fact that Jolie was the one who insisted on the W magazine cover? Why do you keep laying the blame at her feet. This mentality is the cause of the bitter war between the fans of these two women. It forces out this statement: Jolie did it for a job’s obligation while Aniston chose to sit on Vaughn’s lap and clinging to this man’s body for pleasure. Which is worst? Who is insensitive to the ex? And why the hell the ex need sensitivity? Gosh, some of you women have not move forth at all, have you?
BRAVO VOE WELL SAID!
Rien why do you feel that Angelina owe Jennifer anything? Why do keep insisting that she needs to be more sensitve to her feelings? Excuse me but she filed for divorce. She made sure everybody knows she wasn’t in pain over that decision. When she was straddling Vince. Only after her and Vince didn’t work out. All of sudden, she is hurting? Get the F&ck out of here!!!
She is not hurt! She is SALTY! At the fact that it’s not a wham! bam! thankyou ma’am! relationship for her ex and it is for HER! You people want to delude yourself and say she handled her divorce with grace and dignity. Tell me, how digified do you feel? When you air your dirty laundry and have your friends disrespect your relationship? Seriously when two people wrestle in mud. Do you honestly believe either one comes out looking clean? Please..Well lucky for Jennifer. Here is a chance for her to show some class. Let see, if she is done pouting and willing to act like a mature adult. The olive branch is out there for her. Ball is in her court. Oh and Jenfans please accept her for who she really is. Jennifer Aniston not Rachel Green.
Oh and I’m not saying she owes Brad and Angelina anything either. Just saying, since she was the one who created this whole bermuda triangle. She should end it with class. Wish them well and move on with her life. It’s the right and mature thing to do. This will leave no more room for people to talk shiet! So what’s the problem? do it!!!
Difference between Jen and Angie fans. Like their idol, Jen fans can’t handle what they dish out! If you can’t stand the heat then stay the hell out of the kitchen. Plain and simple!!
She’s a childless loser.
She’s a very average looking,overpaid actress.
Rien—What did Angie do on the cover of the magazine?
You use this as a tool to continuously make her s sinner. All of mankind are sinners. There is none of us that are perfect. I don’t know not one human Jennifer included that is perfect or has not been insensitive at one point or another in their life time. Your pretense of trying to understand why did a certain Magazine spread is Rediculous,because you will forever use this to blame Angelina,.This is the only thing you have to hold onto and to use to continously see and find fault in her. I do not see Angie as the other woman,because I do not believe that Jennifer and Brad were a couple when Angie and Brad connected. You fail to mention or see anything that jennifer could have done differently. You see her as perfect in her divorce. I see your lack of understandng as just that lack of understanding. You have found your way to hold onto a fault and a way to blame Angelina through claiming that she was insensitive toward Jennifer feelings. Angie was doing her job. Promoting her movie. She is not jennifer”s keeper. Her fans can have that job.
Peace~
Have you ever done anything less than perfect ?. Do you care to admit it and then elaborate on it?
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