Vanessa Hudgens is Ice Cold

I second the motion regarding ending this discussion….

yea lets end hte discussion. we all have a differnce of opinion and its really getting us nowhere so lets just all go about our own buisness. one more thing tho i know coners mother contacting them was selfless i just dont know how she was able to contact him anywayz just saying…

bem ,a vanessa estar preocupada pois estava a comparar as fotos dela em NY quando gravava o seu filme e deste tempo para cá a minha filho ta recebeu um quadril muito largo ou esta tomando remédio ou ela esta: todo falaram que ta bonito lindo, mais se reparar esta foto acima parece que ja vimos este filme em 09/2007 eu estou preocupa gostaria de saber por onde estar zac ele sumiu depois desta invasão de privacidade, pois desta vez a revista e o paps abusaram por aquela foto em rede eles mereciam um pouco de consideração e respeito por causa deste maltido dinheiro tiram a vida e o amor das pessoas, todos gostaram de saber que estavam juntos e felizes mais agora isso a vanessa novamente com esta expressão triste não valeu ,não gostei,vanessa fique bem Deus te abençoe. continuarei orando por ti .

Yes, I think the discussion should end but, Charlene, one last thing: Your second paragraph of your answer to all of us really tells the tale and your post #221 and #222 should prove to you what we all have been trying to say to you. You are obsessed to know—you want a guarantee they will see something YOU wrote because in your mind YOU are different and IF they could only read what YOU wrote they could not resist in giving YOU a personal reply unlike some other fan. In your mind you are different, in your mind you will be treated differently than anyone else because only you know how to treat them other than just a fan.

Charlene, there are only a few ways for a fan to respond. One is you are not a fan and want to say something hurtful and upsetting—which I’m not say is you. 2) you are one of those fans like the young kids who are ,”OMG, I just love you and think you are so beautiful/handsome”, etc. 3) You are the kind of fan who is not star-struck but just want the celebrity to know they are looked upon as an esteemed and respected person for what they contribute to society or the enjoyment or entertainment of others in this stressful world we live in today. Those fans usually appreciate the celebrity in other ways like they are role models or you appreciate how they conduct themselves, etc.

There are many of us on this thread who are like the latter because we are not the “OMG, you are so _____(fill in the blank with the appropriate superlative.)” We are here defending and supporting this young couple because we are older and have been through life’s long and winding road. Don’t you think we might have something very MEANINGFUL to say to them if we had a chance? Don’t you think WE are different? When someone thinks they are different and not like many fans—and you did say that—therein lies the problem. I’m afraid you do not have a unique point of view for these two that several regular posters on this board have not had more than once. You think, however, it is important they see YOUR mail because it—in your mind—will be different and how can it be? Lastly, what did you do when midnightwonder posted the link about Connor—your #222 post—you immediately jumped once again into trying to find out more private stuff that could get any kind of personal information on how to contact Zac.

The people rest, your honor.

Some words of wisdom from Harry Truman:

If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Some words of wisdom:

The wise man does not repeat himself.

People keep repeating themselves because it continues to be quite unclear what you would consider as evidence of a changing hyper volume that could reasonably be expected to exist at this stage of scientific advancement.

Logic: the theory of deductive and inductive arguments that aims to distinguish good from bad reasoning.

Is everyone on ET watching the ESPY awards?

It’s still another 2 hrs and 15 minutes for me here in the Zac time zone (PT).

I understand it is pre-recorded. Anyway, I’ll just wait for the you-tube links.

Good evening everyone. Hiya, Narf, where have you been,girl?

Ok, I’ve had 2 comments removed and moderated. I’m ticked. What’s up with that?? Is that happening to anyone else here??

How exciting, company picnic! Must be a pretty big event. Is it gonna a beach,park ,countryside or by a river picnic? And how big is the crowd?

Go Sox, hi. Didn’t see the 2 comments you had removed which is just as well. I still find it hard to believe there is so much prejudice around in such a modern, advanced, highly educated and multi racial environment we live in.

It’s at a park Boji, and there will be 70 people there. I love planning it every year.

Oh My! What a discussion–but save by the bell with the quoted clever thoughts and dabbed with a humorous side by Malia. I found myself laughing in between.

The loyal fans have their own good reasons to worry about. I hope Charlene is truthful to herself and to other people when she stated that the arguments are just within the boundaries of the plot and characters of HSM. I wish her the best of everything in life.

Good day/night to all around the globe with a blessing of another new day from the Lord…

i think for me as a fan i just admire them for being so talented and i support them all the way. they want privacy so respct that.