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Katie Holmes is Fierce and Focused

Katie Holmes is Fierce and Focused

Katie Holmes arrives at the Gerard Schoenfeld Theatre for her performance of All My Sons in New York City on Wednesday.

The 29-year-old has had to deal with anti-Scientology protests, however, and co-star John Lithgow has said that she has taken them in stride. He commented, “It (the protest) was much more disruptive to the other theaters on the street! Katie is lovely in the play, and she’s been such a sweetheart to work with. She has worked so hard - this is a tough, tough play. Katie is acting with thoroughbreds and she’s doing a wonderful job! She’s had to really push herself.”

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99 Comments

# 1
Vbecksaholic @ 09/24/2008 at 1:51 pm

I love katie, and she can look good at times, but its hard to believe shes 29, she looks haggard.

# 2

haha, she looks so old

# 3

she looks like someone from a prozac commercial….
she needs to call an emergency helpline asap….
i may have to also after seeing these pix….
i mean really

# 4

I have a picture of my mother in that outfit, looks identical. However, my it was 19883 and my motehr was 46!

Hideous, at least my mom was working at Walgreens.

# 5

Poor katie she can`t Laugh at all . she looks so old

# 6

she looks pregnant

# 7

yea that’s what every1 thinks i came just to say KATIE LOOKZZZ REALLY OLD FOR HER AGEE…gwyneth looks younger than her and she’s 10 years OLDER

but ppl already said that!

# 8

@#7- actually Gwyneth is about 5 yrs older, not 10…

# 9
Maria (Shorty) @ 09/24/2008 at 2:52 pm

How come she’s got her mouth wide open when “Little Man” is around? Strange. Very Strange!!

I dont understand why everyone thinks she looks old because to me she doesnt look old at all. She looks her age if not younger.

Jared really! Fierce and Focused? You need glasses or contacts. She looks like a mess. Her clothes look unkempt and dirty. With all her money and sci-minders you would think someone could wash these clothes and press them a bit. She could also afford to buy jeans that actually look good. These don’t fit right no matter what the style and they hug her legs which makes them look thicker than they are. Very unflattering.
Fierce. I don’t think so. She is a pretty woman, but one would never give her a second glance in most of your threads if she wasn’t Mrs. Tom Cruise.
WHy don’t you post some FIERCE talent and post pics of Lithgow and Weist. Now that would be FIERCE and FOCUSED.

I hope they throw signs in her face until she realises!

Please, Katie, smile!

NEEK,
you must hang out with some scraggly @ss women. she’s only 29! she looks 39 at best! that’s not the way it’s supposed to work. plus, she’s rich to boot so she DEF has no excuse for looking like her grandmammy!

I can see too since Tommy has left her she is back to being the bereft - no smiles, no expression, nothing.
Is there a rule that she can’t smile, laugh or look happy if Tommy isn’t around?
Jared PLEASE post pictures of other cast members too if you feel you must give this 29 going on 69 crone publicity.

I know doing a play is hard work , but she looks like she needs some serious down time. She just looks so tired and unhappy in these photos. I know everyone wants to be casual at times , but she just looks like she doesn’t care anymore.When I look at her photos from back in LA , you can hardly tell its the same woman. She looked so happy and full of light and life back then! She really needs Suri and Tom back around her, its the only time she really ever smiles.

Come on Katie; you can do better, we have all seen it!

She looks very tired and unhappy.

Bejeebus…
NO lol & Im actually 37 & people think Im 18. So I look younger than Katie. But I dont understand why people thing she looks SO old… is it the clothes? I just dont think she looks that bad. I just started noticing her so maybe shes aged a lot in a short time that I havent noticed… maybe its just the stress from being a mom & being married to Tom cant help lol.

She looks at least 35 or older.

she looks like a before picture for the “Mammaw Needs a Makeover Show”

Neek, it isn’t so much the individual pieces, but the way she puts things together. She is wearing a sweater that looks like an old lady sweater, a top that calls attention to her hips and makes them look wider. Her jeans hug her legs which aren’t her best asset. They don’t fit right. The glasses, to block people from looking at her eyes look like they are from the 60’s. Her hair looks like she just got up and jumped in the shower and washed it and let it lay whichever way. Her complexion in these pictures looks pale.
So you put it all together and she looks messy, unkempt, like she is wearing dirty outdated clothes etc. That combined with her never smiling unless Tom is around-she just looks older than 29.
NOW, that said, most of us probably have days where we throw on the first thing that is in our closet, jump out of the shower and air dry our hair and hit the door running. BUT we don’t have tons of millions of dollars that could actually pay someone to tell us what to wear, wash and iron it etc. She does.

I SAY we have an intervention and CALL Stacy and Clinton on TLC’s WHAT NOT TO WEAR.

NEEK,
i didn’t say that YOU were old looking, i said that the women you interact with must be old looking. katie looks very old and haggard for her age…throw in her miserable expression and goodwill clothing choices and you have….well…the mess featured in the pictures above. i, myself, am 30 so i know what a woman of katie’s and my age should look like. let’s just say, if she and i were side by side….people would be calling her “bejeebus’s mom”.

Paltry and Katie both look in their 40s.

….and p.s. i’m 30 and 8.5 months pregnant so i’m TOTALLY not at the top of my game by any means but i’ll tell you what…..she looks like complete roadkill in comparison to my prego @ss!

I literally CANNOT recall the last time I saw Katie smile when she was NOT around tom or suri; i can’ t find any pics of her smiling at the public; it’s as though she smiles for tom’s benefit only

Bejeebus…
I know you werent saying I was old looking but I also dont hang around old looking women. I guess I dont know what 29 is supposed to look like since I look a lot younger & so does everyone in my family… I dont know what any age is supposed to look like lol.

I think Katies clothes are fine but agree some arent fitting right…Im not really a fan of this look. I also agree she could look better considering shes rich but I think we are all a bit to hard on these celebs (not you necessarily but in general) they are human… its nice to see them looking like crap from time to time lol.

neek,
well, i guess i hadn’t thought about it like that……her looking like cr@p is sort of like her giving a little gift to us (i would rather her send me a check though).
but anyways…..thanks, katie! we appreciate you and your charitable efforts! thanks for being concerned about our self esteem and the many many MANY sacrifices you have made for it! LOL

groovy marcia @ 09/24/2008 at 3:49 pm

why do celebrities always dress like homeless people? they have more money than i could ever imagine & yet they dress in ridiculous clothes. if i wore that out in public, i would probably be laughed at. everyone should check out katie’s blog at dontcallmejoey.blogspot.com
there are some videos she made of herself-they are awesome. i think she shows herself in a totally different way that the public has never seen her. she talks about when THE CONTRACT IS UP- like she is referring to having a contract with tom cruise as in their marriage is a contract. thatsthe way i understood it. read all her blogs & watch the videos.you can also go to her mspace from her blog.
i think she is a totally different person than people in the public perceive her to be.i think she seems to be alot stronger & smarter than people give her credit for. i think she is awesome! go katie!!

God Im glad Im not a celeb! LOL.

On another note… its sad that shes not smiling. Maybe shes missing Suri or shes tired.

umm Groovy Marcia- the video is not really Katie. I hope you realize that~

Maria (Shorty) @ 09/24/2008 at 4:13 pm

#25. I thought the exact same thing!! Maybe she’s not allowed to smile unless she’s with “Small Person”.

Maria (Shorty) @ 09/24/2008 at 4:17 pm

Being in a live broadway play when you’re not used to it can be very draining. Many actors have said that it’s a very hard life, but they love it. This is Katie’s first time on Broadway and it must be killing her. I mean, you mess your lines and there’s no ‘cut’….you have to keep going. I’m not a fan of either her or ‘Small Person’, but it is what it is. Broadway is hard stuff.

Does anyone know if “Small Person” is still in town? Did he take the little one back to Cali with him. If so, she must be missing her little one.

Why is she wearing a CROSS? When does she go to church since she became a member of the CULT of Scientology?
Tom Cruise believes that L.Ron Hubbard is his God, so if he is Katie’s god now, too, why is she wearing a cross?
She is a stupid woman for joining his CULT.

I wondered about the cross too. If shes with Tom doesnt she have to be in the cult too? Or does she actually get to have her own religious beliefs?

She looks like a bag lady you see in on an average day in the supermarket.

Does anyone know if “Small Person” is still in town? Did he take the little one back to Cali with him. If so, she must be missing her little one.
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Eh, I don’t know, I think she’s happy when the kid isn’t around. Suri was back in LA with “Small Person’ the last couple of weeks. Interesting that he swoops in with her, gets some publicity, then leaves with her. Makes one wonder.

And if Katie is already drained, after less than a week of previews, how is she going to make it until mid-January?

d CROSS is just a just an act, notice she didn’t start wearing/displaying it publicly till after her stage appearance which is quiet obvious, won’t be surprise if it’s “SMALL MAN’S IDEA”

That’s a cross? No…I don’t see it. A cross is longer at the bottom. Could it be an X? That would make more sense.

*vomit*

hideous dumb broad.

anti-Scientology protest is not anti-Katie.
some warnings for a new thing are not all bad. I hope Katie does not take it personally. Katie is sweet, smart, and a good actress and person.

We all needed our daily dose of the old lady I guess.

http://celebritytoday.today.com/

Does anyone know anything about that necklace she is wearing. It looks more like a plus sign than a Christian Cross. Is it a present from Tommy boy? Maybe it is really ‘X’ for Xenu!

I love Katie, but even I have to admit she’s looking a little old for her age. Has anyone noticed that she has been wearing that cross necklace more often? Is that part of scientology? I just want to see the woman happy again!

missy moo @ 09/24/2008 at 5:45 pm

umm….how do you know the videos of katie holmes are not real? i heard of them on several other gossip websites as well. they were all abuz about them.
her outfit is so hideous! what was katie thinking when she dressed hersef that day?

Rattlesnake @ 09/24/2008 at 5:47 pm

same old same old who cares tired of seeing her everyday on here, same old boring photos

oops! lITHGOW WATCH YOUR BACK! @ 09/24/2008 at 5:54 pm

Lithgow obviously does not consider dumb katie a professional. He says shes been a “sweetheart” to work with. Wow! What a slap in the face…it’s true that she’s not a professional but he could have been just a little less obvious.

If that comment weren’t enough, Lithgow goes on to say:

“She has worked so hard - this is a tough, tough play.” Translation: she’s not up to the part, she tries but she just doesn’t have the skill or experience;

“Katie is acting with thoroughbreds and she’s doing a wonderful job! ”
Translation: The rest of the cast is up to par, Katie is not.

“She’s had to really push herself.” She’s not a good actress. She’s out of her league.

Lithgow, you better sleep with one eye open cause the scientologists will be after your a*s. Your supposed to lie and say she deserves an Emmy and you, Weist and Wilson are not deserving to be on the same stage. LMAO!

Love Lithgow….He hit one out of the park. Honestly is always the best policy. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

her pants and bottom half look like a male! ughh

she’s probably not smiling because of the paparzz always hovering around like flies.

Is that a cross she is wearing???

GOOD VICTORIA @ 09/24/2008 at 7:12 pm

HEY DALE AND DANCER………..I believe her necklace IS a cross DALE, because I have one similar, that I bought at the Catholic Book Store here in my town…….There is no longer point of the cross, and it is a small one, ……….AGREED, some of the crosses had different length’s on them, but most were designed just like hers………DANCER……I agree that sometimes she can look unkept, and her clothes are really strange for her…….After archiving some past pictures of Katie in L.A., she was so different in posture and clothing design, and she looked her age ( or younger ), AND HAPPY…….I found so many pictures of her smiling and waving at the paparazz’s, and NOW, there is nothing!………..Still is strange to me that Tom stays at a different place with Suri……….BUT, Katie seems happy when Tom is in town……..Do not get that at all!……I would have thought Lithgow would be a little more enthusiastic about Katie, but it did not come across that way to me…..I got the feeling he was just being kind !!!……..I wonder if any show will be a sell out?

GOOD VICTORIA @ 09/24/2008 at 7:12 pm

HEY DALE AND DANCER………..I believe her necklace IS a cross DALE, because I have one similar, that I bought at the Catholic Book Store here in my town…….There is no longer point of the cross, and it is a small one, ……….AGREED, some of the crosses had different length’s on them, but most were designed just like hers………DANCER……I agree that sometimes she can look unkept, and her clothes are really strange for her…….After archiving some past pictures of Katie in L.A., she was so different in posture and clothing design, and she looked her age ( or younger ), AND HAPPY…….I found so many pictures of her smiling and waving at the paparazz’s, and NOW, there is nothing!………..Still is strange to me that Tom stays at a different place with Suri……….BUT, Katie seems happy when Tom is in town……..Do not get that at all!……I would have thought Lithgow would be a little more enthusiastic about Katie, but it did not come across that way to me…..I got the feeling he was just being kind !!!……..I wonder if any show will be a sell out?

wonder how tom feels about the cross necklace shes wearing?

HEY VICTORIA–
The show is actually doing very well or at least last week did. The average ticket price tho indicates there must have been a good bunch of folks buying tickets at the Half Price place, but hey, they probably did make money last week and of course if this keeps up their ROI (return on investment) will be soon. I still think the critics are not going to rave about her, but hopefully they will rave about Lithgow and Weist, the real actors/stars and that will get the serious theater goer there.
Do you think she is wearing a cross to prove you can be Catholic and a Sci at the same time or maybe like Nicole she has had it with the cult. I think cutting Catholicism out of your life would be much more difficult than something like Lutheran or Presby etc. Catholism has more pagentry, ritual, etc. for people to take comfort in and to perform.
Who knows, I certainly don’t.
It just is very strange to me that she turns into Katie the Grump the minute Tom isn’t there. When Tom is around she laughs and smiles. Is she that upset that he isn’t there? If so, why do this play then? Guess we will never know!!!

I read Lithgow’s comments and came up with the same impression. He was certainly diplomatic and kind but it was all window dressing; actually said nothing glowing about her performance at all. I would have hated to be in his shoes; you have to respect someone with that kind of tact.

good the more blessings come to Katie when trolls attack

Love her and her family..she’s a doll like Suri

Very lovely

love her necklace

How low and pathetic when some that bash Katie here are Brangelina fans. Jealous and threatened much?????
they are the one that bash most celebrities here.

davenport @ 09/24/2008 at 8:29 pm

I really wish I could see All My Sons because of Wilson especially
Katie Holmes.

anonymous @ 09/24/2008 at 8:30 pm

ADORABLE

the cross @ 09/24/2008 at 8:30 pm

About the cross. Just another sick publicity stunt. Looks like tom’s hairbrain sister might be calling the PR moves again. lol

Who really gives a crap what’s around her neck? She’s the type that can’t be trusted because she is a phoney. Whatever the reason, she is not sincere. If she cared about God in the first place, would she have ever dumped her Catholic upbringing? There is a 99.99999% probability that she would not return to her Catholic faith because Tom would not let her.

I’ve already wasted too much of my life on this golddigger.. gotta go do something constructive like take a sheet…..

Classy and always graceful. Katie is a true talent and au naturel beauty. Looking forward to more pics of her,Tom & Suri.

the cross @ 09/24/2008 at 8:34 pm

One more thing…WTF is she always carrying her phone for? I guess she will be in big trouble if Master Tom calls and she doesn’t answer on the first ring.

I happen to think she is a pretty lady and Im glad she dresses sweet and grounded as in conservative opposed to the sex overkill and ****** looks.

You rarely see without her phone in her hand anymore. Even the pics of her in the park with Suri, she had her phone always in her hand. I thought it was strange then and I think it strange now. Whatever the reason, this girl has some serious issues and to be honest, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to read of her accidental untimely death. I don’t wish it, but this is just too weird.

This made my day =]

I don’t think its weird she carries her phone with her everywhere. Everyone I know has their phone with them all the time. its almost permanently attached to their hand :)

thanks for the shoes close up

Well said John Lithgow. I saw some vids where the public were so annoyed at the protestors and many people insulting them instead.

I’M GUESSING THAT TOM DOESN’T WANT KATIE LOOKING GOOD WHEN HE IS BACK IN CA SO SHE DRESSES LIKE A STREET PERSON, EXCEPT NEVER WEARING THE SAME THING TWICE, AND THEN WHEN HE IS BACK IN TOWN WITH SURI, SHE DRESSES UP. HE DOESN’T WANT ANY OTHER GUY LOOKING AT HER WHEN HE IS NOT LURKING AROUND. AND WHAT’S WITH THE CROSS AROUND HER NECK? IS SHE TRYING TO TELL US SOMETHING?? IS SHE TRYING TO MAKE THE PROTESTERS GO AWAY???? WHAT’S WITH THE CROSS??????

I wonder what Victoria Beckam thinks of Katies lack of style since
she’s been in NY. It appears she’s forgot everything she has taught her about style, fashion and hairstyles. Its funny, Katie is in the fashion capital of the world and she looks like a bum EVERYDAY. And why does this droan need not one but TWO bodyguards?

What’s strange is how you overanalyze every detail, #9.

What is the big deal, #21?

Isn’t that ‘convenient,’ #25…

Stop with the immature height jokes, #32.

What’s interesting about a guy coming to support his wife in her debut and returning to his business, #36?

Must there always be a conspiracy when it comes to TomKat, #37?

Quit putting words into that man’s mouth and spinning things, #46.

Told you it’d be a hit, #52.

There was NOTHING to suggest he was spinning, #53. He said she’s doing a wonderful job. It doesn’t get more ‘glowing’ than that.

Only crazy people would find something weird and suspicious about a 21st century Hollywood career woman carrying a cell phone, #62 and #64.

McLovin–
I hope for the sake of Lithgow and Weist the show is a hit, but it is still early. Reviews haven’t come out. Katie only has so many fans, not sure if they can support the show if it takes a critical review.

jealousy is an ugly thing

Katie looks stunning on this charity buzz site where fans can bid and meet her. The charity is by Tony Bennett.

Its Not A Cross @ 09/25/2008 at 12:41 am

First of all, that is NOT a cross. A Christian cross has a longer vertical bar and the horizontal bar is higher. It’s a plus sign and it’s very popular here in New York right now.

Secondly, Tom Cruise said in an interview with Diane Sawyer in 2006 that he and “Katie are JUST SCIENTOLOGISTS”. YOU CANNOT BE A SCIENTOLOGIST AND A CATHOLIC.

Scientology likes to tell the media and new members that it’s possible to be a Scientologist and any other religion, however when you finally reach OT III, you learn that Hubbard teaches that Jesus Christ and the concept of God is an implant created by the evil overlord Xenu to control human being. I’m not kidding. I was born into Scientology and reached OT V before I left as a teenager. That is exactly what I was taught. Furthermore, attempting to practice another religion and Scientology is called “mixing practices” and is STRICTLY AGAINST THE RULES. You can be declared a Suppressive Person for mixing practices and disconnected from any friends or family still in Scientology.

Finally, a Scientologist cannot be married to a non-Scientologist. That means Tom would not stay married to Katie if she wasn’t a Scientologist. If you marry a non-Scientologist, it is said that you do not have “affinity” which is the number one rule in all Scientology relationships. Without it, a marriage can’t exist or happen. That’s the truth.

Think I’m kidding? Go to http://www.xenu.net and find out for yourself. Another great resource is http://www.exscientologykids.com. With a little research you will find out that everything I am saying is true.

You rarely see without her phone in her hand anymore.
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I know what u mean, cindyjean! Its so annoying. Everyone carries a phone but she has it in her hand 24/7. Even when she was playing with Suri in the park, she had it in her hand and was talking!

You mean to tell me she can’t put it in her bag or her pocket like real people do and use both hands to play with her daughter! Also what is so important that she needs to be on the phone when she has a few minutes to play with her kid? Tll them you’ll call them back and give the kid your attention!! I have a very full life but when I’m with the kids, I don’t get on the phone and give them half my attention. Katie is working on that play. When she has a few minutes to be with Suri, STAY THE HELL OFF THE PHONE AND GIVE SURI YOUR ATTENTION BIOTCH!

She strikes me as a selfish person who doesn’t have the time to enjoy her kid. Shes too worried about her career and missing a call from her lord and master, CrazyCruise.

Its Not A Cross @ 09/25/2008 at 12:41 am

It is possible the church (haha) would make an exception to Tom being married to a non-scientologist. It is my understanding he hit major xenu levels much faster than anyone else does. That David M and crew had him pass his levels within weeks rather than years. I think since he is such a public figure and gives so much money to the cult that they make exceptions out the wazoo for him.
What do you think?

#76, Don’t you think you’re over reacting? Katie was seen talking on her phone ONCE while at the park with Suri. I could understand the criticism if she was always on the phone while with her daughter, but that’s not the case. Geez, people just love to nitpick and criticize everything katie does.

Cutiepatootie

Katie is really America’s Sweetheart……i can go on and on about her amazing acting and beauty but its her personality that makes her so endearing and intriguing.

Add she is a fashion icon…

Old lady Homely is fiercely crappy as usual. Furthermore, her style makes me PUKE!

This ugly old lady makes the bial in my throat rise. Furthermore, she can’t even shine Jackie O’s shoes nor is she America’s Sweetheart… more like America’s no talent bag lady/creature.

she looks rough here. but its probably because of the rehersals and performances etc. i feel bad tht she has to put up with the protests- its really disrespectful. anyhow, she looks old here. i want her old hair back. better, the old katie back.

kit @ 09/25/2008 at 2:01 am

I trust you were being sarcastic? I don’t think Aniston and Witherspoon want to be classed in the same category as her with the America’s Sweetheart label.
Fashion icon? Yeah of Grunge.

Joe american @ 09/25/2008 at 10:43 am

She probably has tot have the phone out so her Scientology handlers can get a good GPS fix on her and then later compare
that with any movements of the Scientology critics that Scientology is tracking. They probably just want to know if she was exposed to any “entheta” from them that would require some “sec
checking” to remove.

very lovely you go girl

I love conservative modest Katie but underneath that and
behind closed doors she is kinky and one HOT MILF

GOOD VICTORIA @ 09/25/2008 at 12:28 pm

HEY DANCER…..and to IT’S NOT A CROSS…..I never thought about the idea that the cult force/team, would let Tom marry outside of the order, just to keep him IN the cult…..With all of his precious money and clout!!!……..After reading all the information on XENU, I know you are NOT supposed to marry non-scientologists, but Tommy could be the exception in their laws……………If Katie has not gone back to her faith, she must not have been a ” true ” Catholic……OR, it not mean a hill of beans to her to begin with………..Being a Catholic myself, there is NO way I would change my faith to what THEY worship, for ANY amount of money or celebrity priveleges……………….AND, to ” ITS NOT A CROSS”, you are right on the longer points of the cross…..After carefully examining my cross, it is different from the one Katie has on, which is ” all even points like a plus sign”……..BUT, there ARE some crosses I have seen that are all equal……Maybe they were not TRUE crosses!…………Like DANCER said, no-one will ever know what goes on in their household, OR Katie’s mind……I still feel so sorry for her though………….I miss the ” cute ” Katie of yesteryears!!

The Mummy @ 09/25/2008 at 2:24 pm

Cruise said you can be a Scientologist and another religion, #75.

Why was Sientologist Cruise married to Christian Kidman for so long if such interfaith marriages are forbidden?

Exactly, #78.

Do you any more updates on that story, #88?

I admire her a lot in everything she does and she looks great too.

pr person @ 09/25/2008 at 5:04 pm

“Cruise said you can be a Scientologist and another religion, #75.” Yes he did, after he said that he and Katie were “just Scientologists”.

But here is the thing… if you had done your research (instead of listening to Crazy) you would see that they can’t be Scientologist’s and another religion. Research it. Just because Crazy says it, doesn’t make it true.

Lucky Tom Cruise

iTS nOT A cROSS @ 09/26/2008 at 1:05 am

Cruise said you can be a Scientologist and another religion, #75.

Why was Sientologist Cruise married to Christian Kidman for so long if such interfaith marriages are forbidden?
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Are you purposefully that ignorant, Mummy? Or is it just that you’re so much of a fanboy that you can’t accept the facts (which have been proven) about Scientology? You’d think after all that time you spent on IMDB, you would have atleast done a bit of research. And please spare me the ridiculous denials that you’re not Yorick Brown from IMDB. If you continue to lie about that, I will be forced to bring your posts HERE so others can see that you are indeed the same exact person. Your way of writing is extremely easy to pick out. Lying will get you nowhere and just makes you look like more of a fool.

If you had done any research into Scientology, you would know that Cruise was lying. PERIOD. If it were true, why are he and Katie “just Scientologists”? You can’t be THAT STUPID.

I’ll repeat it again, since you seem to be rather dense:

DURING OT III YOU ARE TOLD THE TRUTH. YOU CANNOT BE ANY OTHER RELIGION AND A SCIENTOLOGIST. CRUISE KNOWS THAT, HE’S AN OT VII.

If you had bothered to go to the link I provided, or any other site discussing Scientology, you would know that. Scientology fought in court to NOT allow their OTIII be released to the public. THEY LOST and it is available for all to read. In that text, Hubbard states that all “other” religions are false and an implant. Later, in OT VII, Scientologists learn that Hubbard believed Jesus Christ was a pedophile. THOSE ARE FACTS DIRECTLY FROM SCIENTOLOGY DOCTRINE AND AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET FOR ALL TO READ.

Rather than be intentionally ignorant, do some research and learn something. Just because Tom Cruise says something is true, does not mean it is really true. The documentation is available for you to read for yourself. If you’re not going to read it, stop giving false information which ultimately supports Scientology.

iTS nOT A cROSS @ 09/26/2008 at 1:08 am

Forgot to add:

AGAIN, had you done any research, Mummy, you would know that Kidman WAS A SCIENTOLOGIST while she and Cruise were married. She took courses at the LA Celebrity Center and the Hemet base in the California desert. She moved away from Scientology toward the end of the marriage. After the marriage ended, she went back to Catholicism. THESE ARE FACTS THAT ARE EASILY PROVEN BY DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH.

Again, shut up if you don’t know the facts.

GOOD VICTORIA @ 09/26/2008 at 8:58 pm

TO ” ITS NOT A CROSS “………….Isn’t it interesting that Tom has married ALL women that are Roman Catholic ????………a friend told me that his first wife, MIMI, was also a Catholic, but I cannot any information to confirm this…..Can you????……..What is up with that anyway???….It is almost like Tom is intriqued with that faith ( Catholic ), or what?…ODD!!!!………..HEY LAGOON MUMMY CREATURE……..Since I was blasted on a previous site, I quit posting about THE MARY, even though my friend Susan now meets with her on a regular basis….( I’m afraid for her doing this )……Susan prints off Katie information like the ones we read and post on, JUST JARED, and show them to THE MARY !!!!………..OF COURSE, she still claims everything she has ever said is true, and STILL SWEARS, that Katie is the way she is, because Tom is ” pulling a good one “, to ” get out “……The two women who said ” no way you freak woman “, will disagree, ( LOL, I can hope they hate this to ), because they say ” scientologists ” do NOT act that way, OR have people followed like that in black SUV’S “……….They said Susan was lying and I was lying, BUT, you know what????….Who gives a crap…..I DON’T, lie, and SUSAN is the sweetest and most true and loyal friend a person can have……….When I told her to read what TAMMI and WHOEVER it was wrote about us, she laughed her patooty off…..And said i never should have apologized to arrogant asses like that, who can’t stand to read a story, about a psycho name MARY…..MARY says Katie’s stoic and ” care less demeaner “, is due to her constant worry over Tom ” getting them out”……….And THAT is why she is wearing her cross, to show the CULT, that they do not have the upper hand anymore, and she will worship and pray to whomever she wants……AND, that her inside source said that Katie has refused to take any more lessons at the Centre, and the upper crust of the Centre is on Tom’s back ” to fix it, or else”……..MARY said her source told her that they were going to send in Tom’s mother and sister to talk some sense into Katie…….That she ” was to rebellious for her own good “….( LOL>>LOL>>LOL> )….I tell you all what, this is the strangest and funniest story I have heard…..It is better than a frigging book!!!!!………I told Susan to take a picture of THE MARY without her knowledge, but I don’t want to get into trouble showing her face on the net…..How do you do this???….Of course I can’t show it on JUST JARED….there is not a place for that on this site……I wonder IF any of this nonsense WAS true, and I had her picture shown, AND IF a scientologist member saw it, what would they do???….Go to Malibu and shut her up, or just laugh?…I will let you know LAGOON MUMMY CREATURE….BUT, it is interesting isn’t it!!

I’m not Yorick Brown, #93. I’m no one on that website. I won’t admit to something that isn’t true. Some random stranger says I’m some guy from some site and you believe him just like that?

I guess TomKat are (or should I say were) Scientologists because they felt that only Scientology was the only faith worth believing in at the time. It’s what spoke to them. I don’t know what feelings a person has for wanting to convert or pray too.

I don’t support any religion. Just pointing out what he said.

Kidman was never a Scientologist. Although I believe she likely took classes but probably were rare and didn’t last long and only in the beginning.

Probably another coincidence, #95. Like that whole 11 year gap thing between his wives’ ages.

Please keep posting the updates on this story.

IT'S NOT A CROSS @ 09/27/2008 at 11:22 am

Kidman was never a Scientologist. Although I believe she likely took classes but probably were rare and didn’t last long and only in the beginning.

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That’s also untrue, as is most everything else you have to say Mummy.

Kidman reached OT II. If you knew anything about Scientology and weren’t so purposefully ignorant, you’d know that’s not just taking a few classes or taking “rare” classes It takes alot of time and money to get to OT II. Kidman’s status in the organization was published in a Scientology magazine with her declaration of how pleased she was that she reached OT II. Again, you’d know that if you did anything to find out.

Kidman was ABSOLUTELY a Scientologist during their marriage. When she began questioning the cult as she began preparations for OTIII, the trouble started between she and Cruise. How do I know this? Because in the middle of doing her OTIII preparations, Cruise divorced her.

Try finding out the facts before you spout information that is untrue.

Good Victoria,

Oh please. Cruise is not going to leave Scientology. If you knew anything about his status in the org, you’d laugh at the story you are being told. Sheesh

The guy lived at the CC for over a year until May and his younger sister and mother still reside there along with his sister’s children. He’s doing OT VIII as we speak which is why he’s not in NY with his wife. He makes frequent trips to Hemet to work on it. You’re being lied to or you’re lying. I don’t know which. Either way, if figures that the board nutcase would be the one that wants you to continue with this “story”, which is all it is. A piece of fiction.

Finally, Holmes is NOT WEARING A CROSS. It’s a plus sign or X. Anyone actually looking at it can see that. That necklace is very popular in LA and NY right now. I’ve see dozens of people wearing it.

You’re seeing only what you want to see thru the rose colored glasses of a fanatic fan.

IT'S NOT A CROSS @ 09/27/2008 at 11:28 am

PS

To Good Victoria

Re: Mimi Rogers

It makes me laugh that you have NO CLUE about Rogers. She was raised in Scientology but her family was originally Jewish. Her real name is Miriam Spickler. Her father, Phil Spickler, was a higher up in the organization until he began to question Scientology. He eventually left and so did Rogers. She is no longer a practicing Scientologist and hasn’t been for years. As for the Roman Catholic connection, Cruise was originally a Catholic and his mother USED TO BE very active in the Catholic church up until a few years ago when Cruise dragged her into Scientology. At that time, she left her Catholic second husband of 25 years to live with Cruise. She now resides at the CC in LA. Yes, Kidman was raised Catholic and so was Holmes. So what. Catholicism happens to be the number one religion in the US.

Damn…..I wish you people would learn the facts before you sit in front of the keyboard! LOL!

GOOD VICTORIA @ 09/27/2008 at 3:09 pm

GOOD GRIEF ”ITS NOT A CROSS”……SETTLE DOWN !!!!!! If you had read my post carefully, I admitted that I did NOT know WHAT religion Mimi was or had been……That is why I asked if anyone knew…Don’t blast me for not knowing and asking for information…I have NOT blasted or hurt you in anyway, but have AGREED with you on several occasions….Lastly, I have NEVER said I believe THE MARY story, but merely repeating what someone has told me……….I also cannot imagine Tom leaving his beloved scientology at any cost!!!!…………This information ( AND NO I’M NOT LYING FOR THE HUNDRETH TIME ), comes from a friend who has befriended a PSYCHO apparently, and is simply enjoying her ridiculous and stupid stories………I only tell them because a couple of people had shown interest in them, and thought they were funny and also stupid and NOT true, obviously !!!!…..Yes, I guess I should look up some information, but I figured with so many knowledgable people posting, that someone would know…….THANK YOU THOUGH, for your information on Mimi, and the other Scientology info…..See ya later!!!

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