Orlando Bloom is a Belt Boy

It seems as though many people are guilty of lumping a group of people together and then giving them all the same characteristics. Not everyone that posts here is rude and unreasonable. But there are some who are. Not everyone who posts at Delphi is rude either. In truth I find a much higher degree of civility there than here, but that is fairly typical at a board where there is people have user names. It is easier to hide here. What I don’t understand is why everyone who loves Miranda has to hate everyone who isn’t too fond of her, and vice versa. I think she is a user, who is more interested in advancing her career and thinks she is some how better than anyone else. The way she talks. and the lies she has told solidify those opinions. Now if you believe otherwise, you are not my enemy you are just someone with a different take on the whole thing. Personally I might think are ignoring the facts and her own actions, but it doesn’t mess with my life, so believe what you want, and will I.

lol. Thank you for the clarification.

@Frofro
Clumping and collective questions: the answers are the same as other people’s or Delphiers’.

Your questions/comments regarding personal knowledge of B/K indicate you think you really know the truth while dissenters know nothing or are in denial. No clumping there.

Regarding saints, I’ve notice people who call him/them that are always in the middle of a post decrying his/their lying, cheating, famewhoring, loser ways. For instance, take the mention of saints in post #65, which came after implying they cheated on other people. I’ve yet to find a shipper who said he’s/they’re saints.

“if people cant start to look outside the box”
Whose box? Shipper box? Or your box? How about both?

@74
“Fighting over a movie star’s sex life is very serious business.”
Evidently, serious enough a whole board was set up for the sole purpose of dissecting/ripping it apart. Then when that got old, members trotted back over here to do it again. Most certainly it’s business for JJ, not sure how serious though.

@77
Delphi has a “much higher degree of civility there than here.”
How many dissenters post at Delphi? How civil have the anon-Delphiers been here? And why are they posting anonymously?

@69, 72, 78, 79
Thank you, and others like you, for trying to save the world from the tyranny of the Bloom/Kerr fauxmance. The lives you’ve saved are immeasurable. Though your anon-names will never be remembered, nor your deeds heralded through the ‘net, know that your silent suffering shall not be in vain.

Before you jump the gun, this is a joke, relax and have a laugh.

***Your questions/comments regarding personal knowledge of B/K indicate you think you really know the truth while dissenters know nothing or are in denial. No clumping there.***

Did I say that “I” know them personally? No I did not. I said there are more people outside of close family and personal friends that have crossed paths with them in their years. Please dont pressume to know what I am “indicating”. My questions were very clear, unless you need me to go back and list specifically the numbers of the posts in this thread that I was asking the questions to. I didnt have the numbers written down before typing so sorry…..my bad. It would be easier if people gave themselves names, but that maybe is why they post at Jared so as to remain anon…..dont know. I prefer names but that is just me.

My “saints” comment was sarcasm……but maybe you are too busy mincing my words to notice it for that?

***Whose box? Shipper box? Or your box? How about both?***

Isnt that what I said?

[repost] “I agree that endless spinning of the same wheels of arguements is boring and unproductive. But that will always happen if people cant start to look outside the box. Maybe there are people with valid points on both sides of the fence.” [/repost]

I thought I asked a valid couple of questions because, well, whether or not I agree with someone doesnt make me think feel or act the same as (or in extreme opposite of) them for doing so. Clumping everyone together at a board and saying “they are all haters” or “they are all dilusional shippers” instantly invalidates any arguement trying to be made, at least to me it does. If someone cant clearly see that people, and their comments are made individually, then why should I pay attention to any details they might have about something? Why should I bother to see them, or their comments individually as having any merit?

Its easy to say “all delphidiots are haters” - haters of who exactly? Haters of Orlando? I like the guy - still holding out hope his career survives the dry spell. Haters of Kerr? I dont admire her in any way, shape, or form, but hate is a very strong word, that is saved mostly for people who act criminally - thus terms like ‘hate crimes’. I was not a fan of hers, nor did I want to be, nor did I even care who or what she was. As well, nor do I respect someone who has such little regard for her own self image (inward and outward), or the image (same terms) of the person that she claims she is “so in love” with. Werent those the words she used to describe Jay/Brent just weeks before she tossed him aside to be with Bloom? Sorry….but its really tough to respect someone like that.

Thats just what started me not really liking, or wanting to like her. But I do not ‘hate’ her as the blue poster likes to clump everyone together and say that I do by including me in that. I think Kerr reaps what she sows, and that frankly has nothing to do with me, or as far as I know of, anyone else that is in Blooms fandom for THEIR OWN reasons. I dont have to do or say one thing to see where her words and efforts are taking her and her career. Thats how I, as an individual see it. Someone else might see her as a superstar sucess, but I dont. If you want reasons specifically, I would be happy to share them. If you dont, then dont read them….its that simple.

#84 - I know you are infamous for mincing peoples words here, even when they are trying to be sincere with their questions and opinions. I see that is what you have done with both posts I have made at attempting to have a conversation. Maybe that is whats wrong with the splits in this fandom. I guess it all has to all turn out just like politics…..the Democrats and the Republicans and so on and so on. I for ONE, personally believe in individualism. I use words like “I” and “me” when trying to express what I think. I dont need the words of everyone I agree with to back me, nor do I need to clump together people I dont agree with to make a point.

You werent even one of the people I posed my questions to, but whatever. I had the courtesy of using your complete thoughts to respond to……wish you could have extended the same courtesy but I realize you might not have been able to suit your agenda had you done so. But, as I have seen on many a thread here at JJ, you have done that many times before with other posters to the point of frustration and they no longer want to continue the conversation. I know you will think I am “clumping” by referring to many other threads and posters, but again, whatever. If I were that interested in continuing this conversation I would go find them, but Im not, so I wont. Have a good night.

You have described poster 84 perfectly They argue in circles, with no real resolution about their stand on the subject. They deflect everything by attacking the other persons words, instead of listening and responding to their ideas. It is an old tactic, If you don’t like the subject than change the precept so the other person must present an arguement about the way you have reframed the question. You made several valid points about clumping all posters at different boards under one name, and they did not respond at all, they simply reframed the question so they didn’t have to actually answer the question. They did exactly the same thing when you succintly gave reasons for your dislike of Miranda. No direct answers, no statements of why she disagreed, simply a shifting of the point. People like that are impossible to have a mature and intelligent discussion with, because they are too busy trying to maintain the high ground instead of actually talking about or defending their point of view. They are maddening creatures, who just don’t have the abliity to handle honest and impersonal debate. They have to make it personal, and they try to destroy their opponents character and move the exchange of ideas to a new question, one they control.

of course the delphi posters are civil with one another they think alike try saying you like miranda kerr or you think their relationship is real and see how civil they are

@Frofro, 87, 88
Yes, I am clumping you together. Yes, it is because you have the same perspectives so it’s easier than answering each of you individually, especially since #88 is already upset with my long-winded posts, which none of you like. Just mine though, not similarly long ones from Frofro and other anti B/Ks. Hmmm…

I short-quote for convenience. The “you think” comments were pretty insulting, even if you can’t see that. Yes, people do think, and no, you don’t know what each of them thinks unless you’re psychic. To quote #86, “kudos for trying.” (Thanks & hope you don’t mind, #86.)

Clumping/collective: everyone does it, I do it, you do it. So why ask as if you don’t do it?

Saints (& if you are including my responses to 74, 77, 69, 72, 78, 79): where am I wrong?

Opinion: you gave it. I thanked you for it, even though I didn’t ask for your opinion. Had nothing to say about it, hence I didn’t say anything. Didn’t know a response was mandatory.

Already explained myself about “outside the box”.

You: “If you dont, then dont read them….its that simple.”
Me: “You do see the irony of this statement, right?”
You really don’t get it? Sounds a lot like pro-B/K’s “If you don’t like B/K, stop reading about them. It’s that simple”? Ring a bell?

Those were the only points I had, and followed up on. I take it you can’t refute my points, & since I didn’t get into the points you wanted, hence the rigamarole about deflection, mincing words, changing subjects, agendas? Replacements for “intelligent discussion”, ” proper punctuation, spelling & grammar”, “back up your view”, I guess.

@91. Oh sit back, relax and wait. I am.
Can you imagine all the bellicose angst Delphi’s are going to go through when they find out these two fading bulbs are engaged, and she ends up hanging with him(in oh so many ways, LOL!)on the set of his desperate last chance attempt at a career, instead of being kicked to the curb as oh so confidently predicted? Again? This time for sure? Oh the drama! Wonder what new conspiracies they’ll concoct this time, or if they’ll finally let the fandom’s romantic delusions about this guy die? What is it they love to say–pass the popcorn baby?!

LMAO you think ALL at delphi give a shiit? They DESERVE EACH OTHER! Seriously, people dont care as much as you think, and nobody thinks they are going to split anyway, nah these 2 are in for the long haul- deluded? How can you be deluded by a man like him? He is what he is- a w@nker, so nice try at a wind up- but sorry you wasted your time. He and she are bashed- not because people are jellus but because they make it so godamned easy- I do it to TOMKAT the same, Kerrbloom arent singled out, nah they are just lower rung piss take fodder.

Stocks up on popcorn….

Reading comprehension: you’re doing it wrong bb. #93 isn’t an insider or even saying they are. They are telling people that you delphis are nutso and will meltdown if/when they get engaged. #93 is laughing at you lot for constantly predicting Bloom will see the light THIS time because it’s been 189873 days since the last papfest as you call them.

@92
First, it was “intelligent discussion”, “back up your view. Then, it was “deflection”, “changing the subject”. Now, it’s “maze running”. I’ll say it again, check your own posts.

“Makes it easier to ignore, which I will no doubt do from now on”
1. An anon ignoring me, what a meaningful gesture.
2. Darn, my readership just went from 1 to 0. There goes my chance to win the toaster. :(