High School Musical 3: Melbourne Madness

It feels GOOD BETTER THEN GOOD GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

love zanessa, by the way, i am an adult fan with 2 kids………….i just admire them two.

That’s right, yets!! Who are wonderful, supportive, and amazing!!

… and me…

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Love Zanessa and I’m an adult fan as well. I have 4 kids and 2 of them are grown and on their own. I’m in my late 30’s and a huge fan of Zanessa but more so of Vanessa.

so count me in.

#383 that will be in january 2009, either before or after kaycee’s winter wedding

karen, can’t find that video of troy’s wildcat speech in you tube. guess we have to wait for the dvd. its a major spoiler, so that is why it is still not showing up.

and go sox, yes, it is amazing considering that we all come from different parts of the world and timezones.

I always felt Disney and Kenny Ortega most important casts are Zac and Ashley. Don’t get me wrong, Disney and Kenny Ortega do treat the other casts fairly and good; however, Zac and Ashley get more of the deal then the other casts. Disney and Kenny Ortega did say that without Zac, HSM3 will not be a success. Of course, Ashley is Disney darling princess, and she is very important to them. As far as Vanessa, Lucas, Lucas and Monique are just underrated actors for Disney and Kenny Ortega. HSM1 is more like an experiment to see how the fans react to it, and they probably didn’t think it became real huge. After that, Disney and Kenny Ortega figure that Zac is the pretty boy/poster boy looks that attracts many tweens/teens girls. They just swept Vanessa under the carpet for HSM2, because Ashley is basically Disney product from “Suite Life of Z & C” and needed to satisfy and justify her. Therefore, HSM2 is written to show more of Ashley and Zac. Disney and Kenny Ortega didn’t know that Zac and Vanessa have falling in love with each other during the first HSM, and they did not know about the two dating each other. It was until after HSM2 came out, that is when everyone found out about it. For HSM3, I believe that Zac has some saying to the script by making sure that Vanessa is more involved in the movie. Zac did say that he will do HSM3 depending on the script is.

The only reason that Disney and Kenny Ortega needed Corbin and Monique are dancing. Vanessa and Lucas for vocal and dancing. I think Disney and Kenny Ortega’s judgements on rating acting talents are done very poorly. The type of acting that they want are overly done, obnoxious, tasteless, forced, fake looking, very animated and over exaggerated. Look at the way the adults roles of acting were directed…like Coach Bolton and Ms. Darbus are very animated and over exaggerated. Mrs. Bolton and Ms. Montez are more realistic people. Vanessa, Corbin, Monique, Kelsi, and Lucas characters are very realistic to actual life. As long as Zac is not paired with Ashley, his acting is realistic. I remember in HSM2, when Zac is paired with Ashley, his acting become exaggerated and not natural. Vanessa, Corbin, Monique, Kelsi, and Lucas actings are very natural, seem more like real, and not force. Ashley looks like she is forcing herself that does not look natural, and she still has the Maddie’s character built in with Sharpay. One critic pointed that Zac’s acting as Lark in Hairspray is still Troy in HSM. I think that is how Disney wants their actors to be overly exaggerated, loude, over acted, and very animated, which it probably appeals to kiddies and tweens. I guess when the critics are rating it by looking at the Disney kids prospective, and that is probably why Ashley has couple of good rating.

After watching other filming works of Vanessa, Lucas, and Corbin…these three have very wide range of acting skills, and plus their characters in other roles do not resemble their HSM characters. I am more impress with these three than Zac. Zac has the poster boy/pretty boy attraction like any hearthrop in the past, and of course he has the personalities that everyone loves. Lucas and Corbin do not have the heartthrob status, and they have to work harder. I could see Lucas as another Michael Keaton. Corbin could be another Denzel Washington. Vanessa has the Angelina Joline and Catherine Zeta-Jones status and acting structures. Monique is actually 27 years old and playing a high school character, and I thought she should be given a hugh credit for that. I am really hoping that these four Vanessa, Lucas, Corbin, and Monique stay far far away from Disney and move on to more doing more mature and serious acting that really appeals to at least for the crowd of mature age 16 and over - in other people that could walk in to movies without adults to babysit and controling their behaviors.

I am looking forward to see Vanessa, Lucas, Corbin, and Monique next feature movies…big or small roles. Zac has already charmed his way in and will be doing fine. Ashley will always have Disney backing. In order to get more movie roles and projects,Vanessa, Lucas, Corbin, and Monique have to lot work harder than Zac and Ashley. Wishing Vanessa, Lucas, Corbin, and Monique the very best.

It is just an opinion and not putting anyone down. Disney makes s-h-i-t full of money and will not even feel being underminded.

me too wants more movies for Vanessa Hudgens.

#388 and #389, Interesting and thanks for sharing your opinions. As a mattter of fact, I agree with most of what you both said.

I agree that Disney does portray over the top characters in most of their movies. My opinion is that when Zac is put next to Ashley in hsm, he is required to be part of the comedic scene and therefore has to act accordingly. I thought Vanessa was good as the dumb impressionable student on the suite life of Zack and Cody. I just feel Vanessa needs a breakout movie role to prove herself. The other is of course, Corbin. Like Vanessa, he was always smiling in Jump which I thought was not neccessary.

Ashley as has been mentioned has strong ties with Disney and they’re developing something for her. Zac has already something (Footloose) in the works. Lucas, not to worry, will do well in Broadway if he chooses. Monique is very mature and intelligent and I feel that she knows what she is doing and no doubt she will make it. I don’t know but I still feel the underdog here is Vanessa. I feel that she has a lot more hurdles to overcome. One is being from the very beginning because of ignorance she was ill advised in her contracts and decision making. I will not blame her parents who I feel were just as ignorant partly because of who they are. I know how it is if you are not savvy in the entertainment business and not know the right people, they can take you to the cleaners and leave you high and dry. Zac and Ashley had all the right connections and people in the business and that is why they are both financially secure and better off than Vanessa. This is just my opinion and correct me if I’m wrong.

Interesting thoughts and opinions, everyone. And like Boji, I agree with a lot of what you all said.

I do think Vanessa will have to work harder to prove herself, but she has such great raw talent, beauty, and energy, that I think she’ll do well. I also think Disney was hardest on her, not promoting her last album, and giving her less of a salary for HSM3, which is the most blatant slap in the face. SHE is a major reason for HSM’s success, and with the money she has helped make DIsney, they should be ashamed of themselves. I think they owe her BIG-TIME!!!!

I do think that Zac is going to have an easier go of it for now, but depending on how his looks mature, he may be stuck in younger roles. He’s not a really big guy, so they have to be careful who to pair him with, and even guys around him in films can’t be that much bigger than him, at the risk of making him look small and insignificant. I think this is why Zac often mentions that he will be carefully plotting his next moves professionally. He needs to, to have longevity in his business.

i don’t have any experience on the real workings of the entertainment industry but from a fan’s point of view, the way the HSM3 promotions have been going says a lot about Zac and specially Van’s stature in the entertainment business. Van might have started not having the exposure of Ash and Zac when HSM started, but she is proving to everyone that she can be the style icon (look at how many mags she has graced this year) and she can be a crowd drawer (look at her concerts). We can’t really know if she was paid less than Ash, but one thing for sure, Disney now knows she is a star, along with Zac. They started the promo tour in Sweden by themselves, and they will end it in Japan by themselves.

Ash is undoubtedly more well known as she was the mainstay in the Suite Life. If you recall, she introduced HSM, Zac and Van during their New Year bash in Dec. 2005 (you can see this in youtube). Ash has the experience of working early with Disney but all the other HSM stars are catching up like Lucas and Corbin.

“to #389″ on #390. I was trying to start up conversion to see what everyone’s opinions on that subject while awaiting for more news from JJ.