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Zac Efron & Vanessa Hudgens: Beso Buddies!

Zac Efron & Vanessa Hudgens: Beso Buddies!

Vanessa Hudgens and on-and-off screen boyfriend Zac Efron hang out with Brittany Snow at Beso restaurant for dinner in West Hollywood on Saturday night (March 28).

Vanessa, 20, and Zac, 21, both looked cute and casual at the 2009 Kids’ Choice Awards earlier in the day.

HSM3 took home honors for Favorite Movie and Vanessa took home a Nick blimp for her win in the Favorite Movie Actress category!

10+ pictures inside of Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgens, Beso buddies…

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240 Comments

# 1

she has gorgeous hair!

# 2

when were they ever “on-and-off”
theyve been together for ages lol

vanessa looks nice,
zac looks hot as always:)

# 3

umm, mosz: on and off means they’re a couple in the movie and in real life. on and off SCREEN. lol.

still don’t like her outfit. but her hair looks gorgeous. :)

# 4

Too cute! I love these two.

# 5
V-loyalist @ 03/29/2009 at 1:09 pm

Cheers to them for winning and they look awesome as always!

# 6

Vanessa looks hottttt!!!!

Paparazoooo sucks!!!

Leave V alone!!!

# 7

Vanessa congrats!!!

Go celebrate, your fans are celebrating too!!!

Take care and Godbless

# 8
Zanessafanx13!!! @ 03/29/2009 at 1:12 pm

OMG more zanessa, i love it!!! They look sooo cute, i love that he is such a gentleman that he helped both ladies out of the car. I love these 2 together, they are the cutest couple ever!!!

# 9

so cute ALWAYS!!!!!
it’s vomit worthy

i really love v style!! she can carry out anything.

I LOVE ZANESSA <3<3<3

Zac and Vanessa are so cute,

watch the video of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORRf1F5xVn4

the paps were so nasty. this video shows them going and leaving besos.

Zac is a nice guy. he loves Vanessa so much

JUST FANATIC FOR ZANESSA @ 03/29/2009 at 1:29 pm

I love so mutch zanessa
gr8 to see them together
zanessa realy is forever
LOVE ZANESSA!!!!

Congrats to Vanessa for her win!! Love her hair here, all three look great

zanessa4everrr! @ 03/29/2009 at 1:31 pm

they are SOOOO in love!
i love them!

We love Zac in a casual outfit, but we’d love him even more wet and naked!

xo
Rants, Thoughts & Merde
http://rantsthoughtsmerde.blogspot.com/2009/03/glaad-awards-urie-and-williams.html

Zac and Vanessa are the custest couple ever.

zac is a rat @ 03/29/2009 at 1:31 pm

He might have helped both of them out of the car but who did he walk in with not his gf that’s for sure and what’s with where he has his hand on Brittanys back even when she is clear of the car and he has no need to have it there.

Took him all his time to help Vanessa by the look of the photo’s and then left he to walk in by herself yea that’s a real gentleman is’nt it.

So [pleased that Vanessa won the award she deserved it and she looks great here and at the awards. She seems happy to be out on the night unlike Zac who looks like he’d rather be anywhere but there with her mind you there is a saying that two’s company and three’s a crowd so maybe Zac wanted some time just with Brittany, after all he’d spent the afternoon with Vanessa so maybe he fancied a change for the night.

omg ppl . compare brittanys and vanessa’s legs : /

Vanessa’s hot hot hot!!

Love Zac & Baby V

Loving the V’s shorts… she looked amazingly sexy and hot.

Papz was just all wrong with the qtip and must mean.

Thanks JJ for posting your the greatest!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUST FANATIC FOR ZANESSA @ 03/29/2009 at 1:36 pm

I agree with you Marie
zac locks soooooooooooooo totaly in love at all the time
I LOVE ZANESSA!!!
PORTUGAL LOVE ZANESSA!!!

guys they are friends…and whats wrong if zac has his arm in brittanyns back!!!
theres no problem..they are friends..and zac has girlfriend and brittany boyfriend!!!

if you watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORRf1F5xVn4

you can see that he did not actually touch brittanys back. LOL you all sound stupid saying that. watch the video the link is at the top

Van looks freaking stunning here! Her make-up, hair and those legs of wonder = A+++++++++++++++++++++

Zac and Brittany look great as well.

I love their close friendship with Brittany and that they possibly arranged this belated birthday dinner when both Zac and Van were able to attend as Britt attended both Zac and Van’s birthday dinners.

Britt’s boyfriend and Jessica Stroup were there as well. I hope they had a good time. An intimate dinner with close friends is always full of win.

so happy that Vanessa won. Love brittany and Vanessa.

shes so ugly and so overrated, only thing pretty on her is her hair…her style sucks, she lookt awful at the KCA

i love that zan are hanging out with britanny, her boyfriend and jessica stroup.

and congrats to vanessa for winning kca fave female movie actress.

eyda @ 03/29/2009 at 1:54 pm;

Yeah and are you any better looking. i though ******* not. shut the hell up.

THEY ARE HOOOOOOOOOT LOVETHEM

zac seems a gentleman..

The look great! Vanessa looks super HOT.

Zac is nice, helping them out the car

seriously V pulled off the rocker look!!!

V rocks!!!

can’t wait for BANDSLAM

Vanessa so pretty!!!!

rosielee9 @ 03/29/2009 at 2:13 pm

At least one of the pap’swere nice enough to take the Qtip out of Vanessa’s hair and the pap’s wonder why Zac and Vanessa don’t give them the time of day half the time when they do things like this, it was a bit of ear wax big deal everybody has it but there’s no need to throw things at the person, Zac did the best thing and ignored them but at times like this I bet it’s gotta be hard not to have a go back becuase that and the crowding and shouting of the pap’s was just digusting.

When is the preimier in LA. for 17 Again? I wonder if his parents and Dylan will go.

Vanessa is gorgeous!!!

Haters are just JEALOUS!!!

Keeping the faith V!!!

Love you

your BF looks like a girl anyway he acts like a gentleman lol

Vanessa you are AWESOME!!!!

YOU LOOK HOTTTTTTTTTTTTT

V is preparing for BANDSLAM concert and promo and SUCKER PUNCH

woot wooooooottttt

vanessa, that these beautiful photos
hope zanessa had a good time with friends

does anyone know what the eye cleaning thing is all about when the paps r saying stuff 2 zac?

Vanessa is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo beautiful in that picture!!!!!!!! She is beautiful beyond belief!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank god zac and vanessa didn’t go to that sleaze bag perez hilton’s b-day party. glad they have class and hang out with friends who are also decent. bless them.

kami

You are correct. You know this is just another thing on a long list that proves what that the hag has never cared about anything but herself. It’s good both Zac & Vanessa have friends that are real unlike the pieces of **** that will kiss ass all over scum like Perez just to get some publicity. She’s absolutely disgusting to actually attend. Fame ***** to the max. Hell even Miley has more class.

http://ashleytisdale.org/photos/displayimage.php?album=784&pos=1

is it true that he cheats on her? rumor has it he has a booty call in every area code.

YuP, Perez says that Zac Efron sent Champagne to his room last night. Check out Perez on Twitter.

#46, no nikki bodansky fan, stop trying to start s-h-i-t. go back and blog with your other friends like that big becca girl. go live in your fantasy world.

too much makeup and holy fake eyelashes.

I don’t really care what Perez says, b/w the Kca’s and this outing, where did he get the time. And he calls Zac gay all the time. Plus Zac could actually get something out of being nice to Perez. He’ll lay of Vanessa. There’s a difference between being a slimy fame ***** or behaving like Zac or even the Jonas brothers when it comes to Perez.

i see all the little haters are out today. all jealous cause vanessa won as favorite actress. jealous, jealous, jealous.

being jealous of her will get you nowhere.

congrats to VAN ! and HSM3 !

its great to see them celebrating with friends.

and the best way to treat paps (like haters and jealous posters here)
IGNORE them!

thanks to all the true fans who made these wins possible…

i agree about the perez thing. in my book anyone who would hang out with that guy is lower than scum. so glad zac and vanessa are above that.

Zac and Vanessa so belong together.

Dude, I seriously doubt Zac sent Perez champagne. That was probably a practical joke from someone who knows Perez has a crush on Zac. Ha, it cold have been anyone. But, I’ll bet you the Perez doesn’t drink it. He would probably think it’s poisoned.

Zac is a rat please shut up everyone is getting sick of your comments.

V spelllssssss VICTORY!!!

Victorious V!!!

I’m so proud of Vanessa!!

Love you

Vanessa is so pretty!!!

Congratulations

Keep it up!!!

I’ll hope to see more AWARDS come your way!!!!

Haters seriously STOP the HATE!!!

SERIOUSLY I love V-HUDGE

Baby V

YOU rock!!!

Queen Bee @ 03/29/2009 at 3:32 pm

Perez got all excited,did he? Over a bottle of champagne he THINKS is from Zac Efron? The only way I would believe Zac sent ANY kind of gift to Perez Hilton is if the words came out of Zac’s mouth. There are always lots of rumors and made up garbage about Zac and Vanessa.

There was a rumor last night that Zac and Vanessa were at IISole attending Perez’ b-day bash. Turns out they were at Beso with friends. First off, if Vanessa refuses to pose with that hate-filled Perez, why would they go to his party?

Zac is Nasty @ 03/29/2009 at 3:40 pm

EWWWWWWWWW Zac Efron always just looks dusty or dirty to me. After seeing his nasty ear wax this past week it just confirmed that he doesnt have great personal hygiene.

i love her vanessa is the best and she won thanks to all her fans

So cute. I think it i a birthday thing, Brittany has presenet in her hand

Such a gorgeous couple!!!
Congrats to vanessa for
winning the kca female movie actress
and HSM3.

They look great together. Who was the other girl and guy…I love that Brittany Snow has dyed her hair back to blonde. She looks better as a blonde…and that’s a bit unusual being that many brunettes look better their natural hair color…but for her, she looks best a blonde.

lol at all the zikkis getting all happy bout the perez thing. they only love him because he hates V too bad zac & vanessa are still going strong. Delusional cu nts.

#61 ZAC IS NASTY =R U CRAZY SAYING THAT ZAC
ALWAYS JUST LOOK DUSTY OR DIRTY TO YOU?

Vh makes me horney

last time the shorts look bad and the top good
this time bad top, good shorts…
and she has those stupid boots again!
ive noticed that she has some beautiful hair tho, more reason 2 like her =]

Anyone with a credit card could have sent Perez H. a bottle of champagne and said it’s from Zac. So until Zac said he did, I give Zac the benefit of the doubt.

As for Ashley, I will also give her the benefit of the doubt. I went to a b-day party for someone I hated because my boyfriend was obligated to attend the party. Being a good gf,I put aside my ego and my general dislike for person and went to the party. I was cordial towards the person and wished them a Happy Birthday( though I was thinking the person should ***********).

Life can get complicated and sometimes you have to put your feelings or ego aside and focus on what is important to you.
We don’t know why Ashley attend Perez’s birthday party but I don’t think she because she likes Perez.

She wasn’t obligated to do anything. The reason Ashley went is because Perez has always loved her. Of course she loves him. The ***** wants buzz for her album and she’ll do whatever it takes to get it. This is all part of her trying to be sexy and edgy. She even looked like a stuck up ***** in all the pictures from there.It’s good that she’s letting her true colors show. She has proved that she is nothing but worthless ****.

laura daniela @ 03/29/2009 at 5:09 pm

V loks stunning. I love her legs. The paps were quite rude. One of the q-tips got stuck in Vanessa’s hair. It better be clean, otherwise we should kill the paps for even daring to touch Miss Hudgens’ beautiful hair.

‘on and off screen’ meaning they are a couple both in their hsm movies
and in real life.

Does anyone know where his shoe’s are from???

All the haters need to get a life.

Matt, pretty sure they are YSL shoes.

Lol. Zac looks more intentive towards Brittany then he his his gf. Heh.

Lol pup, get your eyes checked.

#70–pop86:

It’s too bad some of the people on here can’t understand what you are saying. I think having to “bite the bullet” is even more a necessity in Hollywood, meaning sometimes the celebrities have to do things they really prefer not to do. Ashley may have gotten roped into this Perez thing simply because she is getting ready to promote her new CD. Some people will not understand that and be angry but on the other hand these celebrities have to promote themselves. It is their JOB. It may be a foreign concept to us normal working class people but it is part of how they survive in their type world. It is the name of the game.

Plus, I can see Zac sending that bottle of champagne—and it is not because he likes the guy or what he says. It’s more of a “in your face” type thing or “say what you like” you are not getting some rude reply from me to get more attention or so you can come up with some other nasty things to say. To me, it is always Zac who looks like the better person as everyone knows Perez’s only motive is to get attention and become more famous and live off other people since he has no real talent. Some people just like nastiness. Think about it, IF Zac actually tried to stop Perez’s words then Perez would only get more attention and make Zac look petty or like he can’t take the heat. Then people would be saying if he can’t take this kind of stuff then he is in the wrong business, etc. I’m sure Zac doesn’t like what Perez says but he is not going to give Perez the satisfaction knowing that if he pushes even harder he might get some negative reaction from Zac.

It the old adage: Never let them see you sweat…

lol pup get your eyes gouged out, since u aren’t using them anyway.

#78 is another one of those delusional fans from “that” delusional fan site where they live in a time warp from two years ago. Zac ain’t going to hook up with the b-l-i-m-p you idolize, so you might as well accept the fact that he’s with Vanessa.

of course karen found an excuse for zac zac could beat vanessa like c. brown and karen would make it make it her fault and prove zac was innocent a lot of you bleeding heart zaccers would

if zac sent pigg hilton a gift that says everything anyone needs to about zac he’s all about himself

hilton has said things abouyt vanessa that are disgusting i wonder how karen would feel if there was someone calling her a ***** and her husband sent the person gifts and or her best friend went to his party

pigg hilton is a blogger with a fan base not GOD zac and ashley’s career are not made or depend on pigg hilton

you guys are always talking about me maybe you need to think about zac and ashley if this is true

karen the man can do no wrong it that it and people say i need help

Some people need to grow a backbone and stand up for what is right. That’s all I’ll say.

On the other hand, I’m sure they all had a better time at Beso’s with real friends. They look great. The paps sunk to a new low with their nasty conduct. It really is disturbing that they can get away with anything. Seriously, is it OK to throw things at people now? I just don’t get it. I’m sure Zac laughed it off, because he’s desensitized to their antics, and doesn’t want to lose his cool. Good for him. That was true class and great poise on his part.

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 9:05 pm

Pop86 and Karen:

After all this time of agreeing we are finally going to disagree about something LOL

I do hope the Zac gift stories are not true I really find as a woman Hilton’s remarks about V are truly offensive and I would not like to think he doesn’t gives a rap about what Hilton thinks of him. Zac has so much talent and charisma he doesn’t need to be kissing up to or acknowledging a mean spirited fool like Hilton. But we really don’t know maybe V approved it in which case if she’s okay with it I’m okay with it.

But as for Ashley I’m very sorry to say I think she’s really about herself and I must say I have always felt that even from the beginning. If Perez Hilton liking her so well can help her album and image I think he could say what he wants about anybody. It’s just my opinion and I accept that I could be wrong but somehow I don’t think so. But who knows.

Sorry buds this time I have to disagree.

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 9:10 pm

correction:

I would like to think not I would like to think LMAO I’m tired

First thing is the paps is so mean I can’t believe they would that. Zac and Vanessa don’t need that. I feel sorry for Zac and Vanessa because all the hate.

Zac and Vanessa have been together for 3 years and If Zac did not love her then I think he would dump her. I hope some of you people get sued by Zac and Vanessa PR People.

desiree How could you say that Zac would beat vanessa , I hope Zac and Vanessa sues your ass.

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 9:23 pm

I HAVE FLAGGED THE REMARKS OF THE POSTER “THE TRUTH” FOR DELETION. THESE REMARKS ARE DISGUSTING BEYOND ANYTHING ANY OF OUR USUAL HATERS WOULD SAY.

PLEASE JOIN ME

PEOPLE PLEASE TAKE YOUR MEDS!!!

To the person who commented on Paris Hiltons comments on Vanessa, I’m no fan of Paris although as stated by another blogger, alot of people in LA know the truth about this girl. Vanessa is no saint and not nice, Zac needs to move on, he can and has done way better!!! Agreed, he would be crazy/stu**d to marry her.

I know a couple of these names, there are definately paid bloggers on here. Maybe Vanessa paying them???

I think we make this a big deal when it shouldn’t be. Obviously Vanessa does not lose sleep over Perez and what he writes so I don’t get why we should give him attention. He’s highly overrated and is celebrated only in the tabloid blogs (E!, LA dishrag etc). He doesn’t matter in the industry and I find it’s tween populated blogs that rate him highly. He does not matter where it really counts.

I think both Zac and Vanessa are aware of this and surely do not take him seriously. What does it cost to send a bottle of champagne to an attention seeking blogger who has a crush on you? nothing!
Zac could easily do the same for a fan. It’s probably his publicist or assistant that sent it. I’m sure Zac couldn’t say what brand of Champagne that was. He can afford to be gracious without it costing him anything. I don’t see what else he could do without coming across as petty.
Vanessa for sure, knew about this but couldn’t care less as we can see from the KCA and Beso pics. She’s out having a good time with her boyfriend and close friends after winning an award for favorite movie actress.

In my opinion, for either of them to address PH’s hate on Vanessa is to say that his barbs are hitting home. I personally don’t want them to give him that attention or satisfaction. He’s not worth it. You don’t see any established or respected actor calling out bloggers that attack their partners or that attack them. They don’t give them the time of day. That would be descending too low and not classy.
The way they pretend they don’t know about it while Zac can be condescending to him is the classy way to deal with him. The implication is that his opinion does not mean anything to them, they can afford to ignore it.

The stupid fool is blubbering while Zac is spending time with those he really wants to be with, the message is clear, he is like the clamoring peasant you brush off with a little gift to keep him happy while you go about your business with those on your level that you really care about, so I don’t really get why it’s an issue.

Zac and Vanessa are not reality stars, they don’t need Perez. In fact, he’s played all his cards with Vanessa and he hasn’t affected her standing in the industry or ability to win awards.
Whether he keeps on abusing her or stops would not change anything about her career prospects or her personal life. To them, he is just a random blogger who has a crush on Zac, it’s only polite for Zac to send him a bottle on his birthday especially as I’m sure he was invited.

This is a situation where lack of class is being responded to with class and the difference couldn’t be clearer.

BTW, the fact that he completely missed the impersonal sarcasm and disdain in that note is a tribute to his IQ.

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 9:29 pm

Bradley:

Not to defend the nutcase but I think the lobotomy candidate Desiree was saying he could and we Zac fans would make excuses, not that he did.

I think it was supposed to be hypothetical.

To Gracemarie: It is the truth, many people are aware of this. No hate.
Personally I think she should get some help. Clearly you don’t live in LA or California. These people create personas and are often not at all what they appear. AND AGAIN BOTH ZE & VH NEED TO BE PUBLICLY ASKS WHAT THEY DID TO A CERTAIN WOMAN.

Grace Marie, are you really RLL???

LOL

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 9:39 pm

Not only do I live in LA half the year BUT my husband is rather well known in the industry (something I’ve never admitted on any board and he’s going to kill me for saying that but your post is beyond the pale ) . So I can say with complete faith that you and Steve need help and need to go somewhere where you can be believed.

Next time pick a site where there are NO INDUSTRY people at all.

Naomi I Totally agree with you

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 9:43 pm

RLL???? What or who is that

lol. A group of people have finally cracked.

Anyways~~~ I’m just happy to see Vanessa looking totally gorgeous!!

Oh my goodness, they’re finally cracking! We need psychiatrists ASAP!

They all look great! Congrats to Vanessa!

I am not fan of Vanessa at all. I support because she is with Zac.

Why is when there is a post about Zac and Vanessa it being out crazys.

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 9:55 pm

Naomi:

Great post.

I’m trying unsuccessfully not to lose my temper with the slanderous crap I’m reading tonight which I know positively is completely untrue. And my husband’s pretty cool he won’t kill me. LOL

Though I do think the slanderous posts need to be pulled.

Zac and V looked great don’t you think??

#92…gracemarie, happy to help.

Naomi, that is a great perspective, and well said. I feel love and loyalty should be stronger than money and work obligations, but your points are very valid and most likely the case. Thanks.

#95 Naomi- I totally agree with you. The only people who take Perez Hilton seriously are people who hate Perez but still go to his site and then complain about him.

-To all crazies- You are proof why we need universal healthcare in the U.S.

Vanessa looks like a tramp in that outfit.

i just want to ask why Ashley go to Perez Party is she no class at all?
i loVe Zan

uh wow, thetruth is obviously mental & Steve way to not even get the correct Hilton in your lies. Man people need help.

I think Ashley’s been showing who she really is for sometime and that goes beyond Perez but hey I’ve never been a fan.

You’d have to be blind after all these years and up to last night to not see exactly how happy and and exactly how secure Zac and Vanessa are with themselves and their relationship.As for that apparently “scandalous” photoshoot. Here’s what Vanessa had to say.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/zac-efron-and-vanessa-hudgens-talk-zacs-grown-up-photoshoot_article_16112

They seem pretty intent on loving and supporting each other no matter what.

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 10:16 pm

Pop86:

That’s not quite true I hate P. Hilton and I’ve been to his site maybe twice but unfortunately he is quoted everywhere including here and is a guest on a number of Talk shows. You can know what he is saying and never go to his actual site.

Anyway I agree Naomi is great. Sorry we didn’y agree about Ashley.

What an honor to be chosen best actress by a bunch of first graders. She looks awful in that trashy outfit and she doesn’t act much better. She deserved to win nothing.

the truth: what did they do to a certain woman and to who?

colleen
cry MOAR.

Well said Naomi, thanks for your wisdom. :-)
I haven’t been on in a while, how are you?
I myself have people in my life (mainly at work) that I “ignore” by being nice as pie to them. Like you said, it’s does np good to let them see they got to you.

Gracemarie, they do look great. Glad your husband won’t kill you.

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 10:32 pm

Colleen:e
Well the cats out of the bag about my husband so I am just going to use my knowledge via him.

Children between the ages of 5-12 makeup a full 1/3 of the industry’s money take. Why? Because they are persistent with their parents when they want to go somewhere? true but not the whole eason.

The reason: They can’t go anywhere alone so when they want to go see HSM3 they not only generate the money of their admission but the money for the admission of the parent or parents, aunt, older sister etc. who has to go with them. For every ticket sold because of a teen 13-19 the younger base can generate up to 2 or 3 or 4 more. So if mommie is taking 8 year old Jennie to see HSM3 she probably taking her 4 year old brother too and mayber Dad decides to tag along for a family night.

They are also huge movers of dolls, trucks, shirts, lunch boxes for a movie and they have siblings.

They are a HUGE demographic for the entertainment industry. So if they have decided they like Vanessa I say GO GIRL.

Does any one know about Zac´s shoes ? brand? something?

Thanks guys!

Narf!!! We’ve missed you. I’m fine and I hope you’re keeping well too.
You can see human nature is always consistent in both good and evil.

On a serious note, some people have finally lost it. Only a seriously mentally deformed mind would think up the garbage they are spewing.

It’s scary how a relationship can both bring a warm glow to some people and provoke monsters in others. I guess we all react to things based on the type of people we are.

There are certain people I would hate to encounter in real life. Pure horror!

ashley fan here but try to be not biased..
since when going to a birthday party is a sin ?
sure perez might “hate” vanessa but are you guys really sure it’s pure hatred not merely a joke to pump up his site ?
he did that to almost anyone and he only known to be nice to people who’s nice to him in the past…ashley did meet perez before this I believe and she might be nice to him I don’t know….

we know that both zac nessa and ashley are GROWN UP adults…

IF they act like their fans right now, freaking out just because one of them, in this case, Ashley went to a birthday party of someone they dislike or “hate”, then that’s not ADULT material at all….

gracemarie @ 03/29/2009 at 10:44 pm

Naomi:

I believe we get back what we give out so I’m sure we don’t have to worry about them. Of course I had to calm down before I could say that I was furious LOL

Anyway on another side: V gave remark to Access Hollywood I’m told (have to go over there) and said she thought the pictures of Zac in Interview Magazine were just pictures and they were sexy.

She supports her man - gotta love her and he I’m sure supports her equally.

nessaisstunning @ 03/29/2009 at 10:46 pm

Whoa. To all the stuff above about Vanessa and others. Do people realize they’re talking about real people and real relationships and an actual FAMILY? I get that some think Zac is otherwordly and has a God-like status among some of his fans but he’s still human and part of a real life family. It’s not just Vanessa you’re trashing when you post that stuff. That’s sick.

I don’t know “the truth” about Vanessa but she can’t be all bad since non-paid gossip bloggers talk about her publicly without provocation about how sweet and considerate she is. Unless you’re saying that V and Z’s PR people are now paying V’s former co-workers to talk about her?

She’s become friends and made long lasting friendships with not only her own co-workers but Zac’s co-workers that last beyond the actual project. I think it’s really cool that she’s made good friendships with Brittany and Amanda even though Hairspray filmed how many years ago, 2+ years ago? How often does that happen in this industry among young women?

At a time when a lot of other 19-22 year old young actresses are and usually do spend their time cutting each other down, starting public PR wars, stealing each other’s rotating boyfriends and generally being competitive at every level of their public lives, there’s this small group of young women Brittany, Vanessa, Jessica, etc. They have every reason to be catty witches with each other. Instead they support each other, they hang out beyond the red carpet, they do silly normal stuff together, they hug each other and support each other when they think the cameras aren’t looking and what not even though they’re all competing for the same work and place in the PR food chain.

These women should be applauded for that because it’s rare to see any group of 19-20 year old women act like that but to see these actresses be like that with each other is wonderful. After the years of Lindsay/Hilary/Paris/Nicole/etc PR feuding and wars this is really refreshing.

Plus I’ll always have a lot of love for her simply because of her work with Best Buddies. It’s such an awesome, underrated program and that she’s lending her name and efforts to get the program publicity and funding is much appreciated.

I am well Naomi, thanks. And I missed you guys too. Yup human nature is still the same.
It’s scarey what some of these minds can think of these days and I hope we never do meet them in person. As the saying goes, “I wouldn’t wish them on my worst ememy”

On a positive note, I am really looking forward to 17 Again, Bandslam, and MAOW. hopefully I will have enough money for them all. LOL!

The commercials for 17 Again alone are killing me. :-)

Soni hannigan @ 03/29/2009 at 11:16 pm

I think alot of people are just jealous of Zac and Vanessa and that they are in a REAL relationship and really care about each other. Zac’s PR people would neer pay someone to say bad things about Vanessa. He would fire them if it was true. He stands bu her like she does him.

the Disney no talents with Brittany Snow. Eating dinner. So intresting.

WHO CARES !

This garbage is stricly for the naive tweens.

#95–Naomi:

That was exactly what I was trying to say. If what Perez says about Vanessa bothered her so much and it bothered her that Zac didn’t “defend” her then why is she with him so much? I doubt she wants Zac to give this guy ANY credit and they virtually are laughing in his face for his ridiculous comments. It would be just as ridiculous for them to give him credence by attacking him.

don’t want to bring it up again but feel i have to.
i just got an info from fellow friend in FF who might post here too that viper room is strictly 21 and older which maybe why zac and nessa didn’t go in addition to many other reasonable and possible reasons…

tizzfan–I doubt V would go even if she could. Kiss is 21 and up and she went there to hang with Zac, Brittany and her bf, and Jessica last night. It seems Vanessa made a choice to react in a certain way to Perez a few years ago and she’s been consistent with it ever since. She lets others in her life make their own choices in how to react to Perez.

Vanessa would end up cutting out everyone in her life but possibly her parents, sister and agent/manager if she chose to cut ties with everyone who praised Perez or went to his PR-ego boosting events. Ashley, Brittany, Amanda and Jessica were all at Perez’s party last night. Zac is definitely on a kiss-Perez’s behind tear these days, for whatever reason.

I think it speaks to her maturity that she doesn’t throw down ultimatums or demands that others that she cares about in her life react to Perez in the way that she’s chosen to. It’s a very healthy attitude to have in general but definitely in this business. As a fan of hers, it’s disappointing to see those in her life not have her back in that regard but that’s not on Vanessa or a reflection on her but on those who choose to ignore Perez’s blatant disrespect and targeting of V for some good Perez-PR.

those zikki lovers really are the most horrific people they belong in an asylum.

gorgeous as usual!!!!
luv baby v !!!!!!!!!!

kittkat, besos/kiss lounge is the same place… kiss lounge just happen to be on the second level…. i goggled it and it seems like that place have no Strict policy regarding age but merely how many bottles you bought , the connection, and how hot you look ( hahaha) ( of course this is internet which can be wrong )
vanessa can get in because she was invited by the birthday girl i believe brittany..
if i can choose, I will also go with zanessa since viper room is not only strictly 21 years older, it’s not at all “clean” if you know what I mean… hoho :-)

oh and also i am 20 but I am allowed to go to Lounge but not Clubbing.
that’s the main difference I believe
and I hate clubbing…
as much as I like Ashley, i hope she doesn’t go clubbing…
sorry for being OT

back to topic…
I googled the place and it was HOT… might want to go there for my 21st.. intimate birthday party in luxurious place… haha

http://ehs-wildcats.livejournal.com/114349.html

It weird when the bitter of ontd are more decent than the ziki freaks that reside there. I’m really not sure what I find more funny, the fact that zikki freaks like that butterfly girl talk about how horrible it is to hate and be rude to someone like zac when they disrespect his life every second with the way they treat his gf Or the fact that butterfly girl who has stated she wished vanessa was DEAD actually thinks she has any right to try and make judgments on her character as if she or her kind know vanessa. The only people jealous are those fuckwads and maybe their queen the disrespectful, obsessed overinflated balloon. And how predictable them pissing their pants in excitement over this Perez stuff.

The funnier thing is I stumbled on the fact that the audry person from zaa is actually associated with the likes of her. I can’t believe I would visit that place, I never tht anyone there was like that
I wonder if anyone will ever have the guts to reveal to zac the sheer mentalness that is that group of people.

thetruth: Are you crazy or what? If not, then stop playing hide & seek and speak out what you want to say. If you want people to believe, then you need to say something concrete and w/ evidence, otherwise no one is going to believe you.

OMG!!!
I TOTALLY LOVE her legs..
(love it! :)

and her short..
it was really cute..

CONGRATS AGAIN TO V & HSM3 cast.

Finally, I managed to get access to JJ. For some reason, me being a good half way around the globe, JJ was particularly hard to get through to.

It is good to see the wise ones expounding their knowledge. Thanks for enlightening the rest of us. Gracemarie, well, I never. Am truly impressed that Vanessa has such fans, nurses, Forensic accountant, personal assistants, students, other professionals, grandmothers, mothers, lawyers and now someone connected to the Entertainment industry. Sorry, if I’ve left anyone out, you can add to the list.

Sophie, VABN had some very wise words to share as well. Ain’t gonna link as my comp seems to be having a bit of a prob. I suggest you go and read the last page on The KCA awards.

awwwwwwwww i LOVE them together!!!

After looking at the list of celebrity Attendees at Perez’s Birthday Bash, I will have to say I’m a bit sick to my stomach. It is HOLLYWEIRD, alright. I will never understand and I don’t think I want to, not right at this moment, anyway. I really don’t know what to make of it.

But then, Boji, we’ve got to remember, there are celebrities and there are celebrities.

That some one successful in their career or is well-known attended PH’s party means nothing, it doesn’t make it any more respectable to those that don’t care for it.

It doesn’t mean that there is anything wrong with attending PH’s party, nothing is wrong with it. It’s a personal choice and nobody owes anybody any explanation for going or not going. PH is a human being and like most human beings appeals to some people and disgusts others. That’s normal.

In simple terms, those that attended did so because they wanted to, those that didn’t attend did not want to. It’s their prerogative. People hang out with those that appeal to them.

Perez has a fanbase and those fans will want celebs they are fans of to hobnob with Perez, nothing wrong there. Then there are those of us that can’t stand Perez and obviously would not want the stars we support to have dealings with him. Nothing wrong there as well, it’s all a matter of taste. Besides, it’s their lives not ours, we just support the ones that their values and choices appeal to us.

I guess I’m not really bothered about the attendance list because of all those that I’ve heard that attended, there’s none I particularly regard highly or am surprised were there. Again, a matter of personal opinion.

I would begin to get worried when I hear that people like Anne Hathaway, Charlize Theron, Rachel Wiesz, Matt Damon, Sandra Bullock, Jada Smith etc attended a tabloid blogger’s party. They are the calibre of celebrities I respect and would want Vanessa to emulate.

This is possibly why I am also more interested in her movie career than her music career and love her exposure to prestigious award shows like the GGs and the Oscars. It’s not too early for her to observe and learn from the right sort of role models. You become what you’re exposed to.

Currently, I’ve observed that tv actresses/actors and musicians are more inclined towards such gatherings because the tabloids play a bigger role in those industries. I wouldn’t be surprised if they make up the bulk of that attendance list.

OMFG , vanessa looks so sexxxxxxxy i love her she’s so gorgeous

Naomi, you’re such a dear. Thanks, I guess my distaste for Perez just over came my sensibilities. Reading some of the threads posted by Perez just reveals how bitchy and nasty he can get. I feel that these celebrities attending his birthday somehow endorses all that nastiness. I have to be more objective, I know but I get incensed everytime I read his threads regarding Vanessa, the latest being the Q-tip incident.

i love zac and vanessa

vancrazed @ 03/30/2009 at 8:18 am

I find it very sad, and disturbing that there is a Zac fan on this board who would resort to spreading lies about his family in order to get others to hate his girlfriend. please don’t call yourself a fan of his. It is humiliating to him that any one of his fans would think that lowly of him, and I am hoping for the sake of both of these two young adults, that the real fans on this site, know not to listen to the garbage. It is depressing and sad that anyone would stoop to that level. And I am so grateful that the kind of company Zac and Van choose to keep it above the level of the known perez. They just won more brownie points in my book and I am honored to call myself a true fan.

Didn’t take her long to come out of the woodwork. Zac is home and

she still looks like a refuge from the garbage dump

zacoholic @ 03/30/2009 at 9:07 am

OMG!
They look sooo amazing !!
Love U Zac & V ^^
POLAND love you!!!

Ann, let me correct you. To take refuge means to take cover. Are you trying to say that Vanessa has been seeking shelter in a garbage dump? I do not get you. I would say that YOU are the one out of the woodwork, one of those wriggly fat grubs (baby insects).

nicely put Boji.

wowwwww seriously what the hell is that, I DON’T BELIEVE THIS!!!. Vanessa will never do that. I believe that it is such a racist remark to say that V had slept with Zac’s dad. V’s mum is a Filipino. In the Philippines, I know that some young girls are girlfriends or wives of older Caucasians. The Caucasian guys say that Filipinos are caring and loving. Honestly, I really don’t buy this stuff!!! How dare you say this thing?

Please stop hating on her. I’m not a paid blogger. I just come here to support Vanessa!!! I love her.

gracemarie @ 03/30/2009 at 11:17 am

Boji:

Hi well it my beloved spouse not me in the industry so what I know I know from him. I did however read him the list of PH guests and he was not surprised at all but he laughed.

The caliber of star at PHs party is not a caliber I want Zac and V associated with I want them on a higher level doing really serious acting work and am very happy they choose to spend time with true friends.

As for those at PHs party who claim to be friends of V or Zac I’ve said all I intend too and will leave it alone.

graciemarie…my mom works in the industry as well…and has for years. And I have said the same thing and couldnt’ agree with you more on this issue. As an older fan, I see Perez for what he is, and the folks that didn’t show up at his party, are the exact folks that I want Van and Zac associated with.

Zac and Vanessa look cute together.

She did not not go cause she’s under 21, cause the JONAS brothers were there and 2 of them are under 21, so that’s bull! She could have gone if she wanted to or was invited

gracemarie @ 03/30/2009 at 12:25 pm

Vancrazed:

I guess as a Jew with our history I can say this:

If Vanessa was a blonde white girl half the haters on this board wouldn’t be here. The blue-eyed boy was supposed to choose a white girl not one half fillipino that’s what a lot of people think.

I am convinced as does my husband that that is at the heart of Perez Hilton’s venom where V is concerned. Perez and most hater on this board believe Zac is supposed to be with what feeds their bigoted asses. Perez gets away with it because so many think like he does.

Well I’m sorry Perez and haters Zac parents it seems were to busy trying to raise a decent human being and didn’t have time to also raise a racist. Which probably would have been hard for them since they are not racists either.

As for the party attendees my husband says: some are “flash in the pans” that we will be saying “remember so in so whatever happened to them”, some wil never achieve success commensurate with thier ambition, some will find hanging with Perez Hilton will hurt them in some circles they need to go further.

“Kissing up” is a dangerous business fraught with land mines - you have to sacrifice some self respect (which I guarantee you’ll need later and won’t have) - sometimes the person you are kissing up to turns on you and does you more harm than good and believe it or not though it is Hollywood some producers and directors actually do look for integrity and auctioning your integrity off to the highest bidder in the name of abition can be an extremely costly enterprise.

Glad Z&V skipped it.

Its nice to read the positive and enlightening comments of ZV true fans (ignores the nut cases here). Everyone is on the same page and looking forward to ZV’s future projects.

It has been a wonderful weekend with HSM3 and Van’s wins at the KCA 2009. I admire how confident and supportive Van is of Zac’s recent career moves (interview and shoot). I can’t wait for Sucker Punch confirmation….

she has gorgeous hair!

Please stop hating on her

Vanessa looks super HOT.

Perez said he sent champagne zac

I feel so bad for Zac. All his fans are douches. : (

I’ve been reading Vanessa’s posts for a couple of years now, but I
have never read comments that have this much hatred. Gracemarie,
I also reported posts #87,88,89 but I guess slander isn’t enough to
remove those posts. This was suppose to be such a happy day for
Van and HSM and I can’t believe how it turned out. I don’t know if they are jealous of her success or just because Zac’s her BF.
Also, I know Karen is one of the original ZV supporters but I kinda
agree that with Zac giving PH the gift is kissing up. I do read his
blog and I do have a sense of humour but he does go to far with
the Vanessa bashing. I just think ignoring him as they have in the past was a better way to go, but maybe PH has more power than I
thought and in that case I guess Vanessa better send her kissing
up apology and jump on the band wagon with the others so he’ll
stop bashing her. I guess you have to do whatever it takes to help
your career. But in the end PH has the last laugh cause he’ll end
up writing whatever he wants if it gets him hits.

is it true that zac to winnow ISOP?

Zac Efron fan and Supporter @ 03/30/2009 at 2:52 pm

87,88,89 I hope Vanessa’s people sues you.

“#88,89,
I want facts

vanessa looks nice,

why were they not the party of Perez Hilton?

gracemarie @ 03/30/2009 at 4:03 pm

Robin:

V and Z do not owe their careers to PH and he can do little to keep people from supporting them since so many see him for truly what and who he is. People like him get whats coming to them sooner or later.

I think it is berst V stand her ground so that when she is even more successful she won’t have sold her so soul to get there.

WHAT IS REALLY A DISGRACE:

V KINDLY ALLOWED JJ TO INTERVIEW BUT HE WAS NOT MAN ENOUGH TO REMOVE THE SLANDEROUS, DISGUSTING POSTS ABOUT HER PLACED ON THIS BOARD YESTERDAY

THAT PRETTY MUCH IDENTIFIES WHAT JARED IS BECOMING MAYBE PEREZ ISN’T THE ONLY ONE WITHOUT ANY INTEGRITY. I WONDER WHAT JJ MOTHER WOULD THINK , IT IS UNLIKELY SHE RAISED HIM TO DISGRACE HER BY EMULATING PEREZ HILTON.

Shame on you JJ

cute cuople

i hate tmz
poor zac and vanessa

christine x3 @ 03/30/2009 at 4:40 pm

love them!

i like cuople zac and vanessa and brad and angelina.

Thanks Gracemarie I agree. I hope Vanessa stands her ground
as well. That’s what I really like about her is she is honest even if
she is criticized. She seems to be very strong, secure young woman.
Zac as much as I love him plays it safe , but I do understand he is
far more popular and has much more to lose. Anyway I love them both
and I hate the papparazzi and how they are treated by them. The Q-tip
thing was disgusting. Jared you can still remove those horrible posts.

#174
i agree with you

JJ pls remove posts 87,88, 89

gracemarie @ 03/30/2009 at 6:59 pm

THanks Robin.

I wish our Z&V supporters Malia,Poppy, For Real, and brilliant Karen will also call for the removal. Each of them is far more eloquent than I and have an uncanny ability not to lose their tempers at malicious fools like poster# 87 and 88 something I have not yet mastered..

I never thought I’d ever seen posters who make Desiree and Zac is a Rat look tame in comparison and they are both lobotomy candidates. LOL

Zac Efron Done With Musicals… For Now

The 21-year-old has just signed on to The Death & Life of Charlie St. Cloud saying, “It’s a little bit more grown up. It deals with some heavy material.”

http://www.thecelebritytruth.com/zac-efron-musicals/006288

Browning Replacing Seyfried in Sucker Punch
Source: Entertainment Weekly
March 30, 2009

Entertainment Weekly reports that Emily Browning (The Uninvited, Lemony Snicket’s A Series of Unfortunate Events) will replace Amanda Seyfried in director Zack Snyder’s Sucker Punch at Warner Bros. Pictures.

Seyfried was set to play the lead role of Babydoll, but had to drop out due to scheduling conflicts with the fourth season of HBO’s “Big Love.” In the film, Babydoll is confined to a mental institution by her stepfather, who intends to have her lobotomized in five days. While there, she imagines an alternative reality to hide her from the pain, and in that world, she begins planning her escape, needing to steal five objects to help get her out before she is deflowered by a vile man.

Vanessa Hudgens, Abbie Cornish, Evan Rachel Wood and Emma Stone co-star. Sucker Punch is scheduled for an October 8, 2010 release.

gracemarie:

I have already reported abuse on those horrible posts. I did it nearly as soon as they were posted. I don’t understand why they have not been removed. However, in the past I haven’t understood how some posts have quickly been deleted and some were left to remain. I don’t know how many people Jared has working on such reports but some may not be true Vanessa and/or Zac fans so they let them slide. Who knows, but they are clearly posts that should be removed. I know on JJJ there is supposedly only one person checking this kind of stuff out and since Jared seems to be busy with interviews and jetting off with people like the JoBros maybe he hasn’t had time to check his emails… It really isn’t a very good excuse, however.

gracemarie:

BTW, the fans who have been around these boards and have been vocal since Zac and Vanessa hit it big have encountered such people as the #87, #88, #89 poster more than once. Early on there were people like this all the time throwing horrible things at Vanessa and Zac. We steadfast fans were at war everyday and it was horrible. Desiree and zac is a rat would have been laughed off the board at that time because some were so horrendous—acutually desiree and rodent ARE laughed at and never taken seriously by the fans who have been around for a long time. They are just a nuisance, not some kind of threat. They know that is all they can hope for.

Actually, after all has been said and done over the past 2-3 years on this board I believe that is why the Perez Hilton stuff is rather mild to some. He has more than proved himself ridiculous. I think Zac and Vanessa may think he is stupid but then again they have faced worse than him. After all he is just trying to get attention and drum up his “business” so he gets more and more outrageous to try to stay on top of this game he has going. One of the problems is—which I don’t think people see is—more the fans gripe and complain
about him the more ATTENTION he gets and the more he will dish out on the things the fans are complaining about. Why would Zac ‘confirm” that his cra* on Vanessa is irritating. The best is to make a joke out of the creep. He certainly said a lot of bad stuff about Zac at the beginning. He’s one of the first who started the gay rumors about him…

BTW, this may be a little off the subject but before people go all off on Ashley Tisdale—and I don’t follow her although I think she is a fine comedic actress—we all could clearly see that she and Vanessa were still “tight” at the KCA’s and I’m more than sure that Vanessa and Zac knew she was going off to Perez’s party after the awards. However, they don’t seem to have a problem with it so why must we make so much of it? Doesn’t anyone thing that is only going to set Perez off more into his praise of Ashley and then dump that much more on Vanessa? The quickest way to stop Perez’s ranting on Vanessa or Zac or anyone you might like is to STOP making comments that will tell Perez he is hitting a nerve with that celebrity’s fans. He is only going to do it more if he realizes it is angering people. He doesn’t care how he gets attention, just as long as he gets it. So, people should stop griping about what he writes about Vanessa and quick beating up on Zac’s lack of fighting with him and let Perez be what he actually is, a nobody. The fights that he causes among the fans is what makes him “famous”.

you are right Karen, just ignore the rants and gripes of someone-trying-hard-to-be famous blogger…

we fans should be concentrating on positive news of our fav stars..

And since SP got its female lead, i am so hoping we get confirmation of all the girls cast very soon.

gracemarie, I completely agree with your post on #156. I have always felt that prejudice has been an ugly part of the hater’s posts. It’s very sad. As an original Angel here, I’ve seen it for a long time. It breaks my heart, really.

I think what bothers me somewhat about the Perez situation is, how he has a hold on some celebs, who truly fear his backlash, and pander to him. I just think it’s cowardly. But I think Karen’s “don’t let him see you sweat” idea is probably true as well. One of these days, I’d love to see someone just put the jerk in his place.

I’m really upset JJ has not removed those posts. I reported them as well, and thought they were about as slanderous as anything I’ve seen here. Please, Jared, do the right thing.

Perez doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. There were lots of people that went to Perez’s party, a lot of it was all PR work etc. People like Brittany and Jessica also went but it looks like they did it in a very quick, low key manner. Whatever their decision to associate with Perez, I can give most of the people at the party the benefit of the doubt and still respect them personally and professionally.

As for Ashley that’s totally different, to me at least, . Ever since that radio interview from some time ago where the host completely bashed Vanessa, said some repulsive things and Ashley just laughed along and then at the end praised the guy, it was clear who she was. Self serving and spineless. Sure its pretty damn obvious Zac and especially Vanessa are still extremely close with her. I’m not gonna be like the Zac/Nikki ships’ pathetic attempts at fans and wish bad things upon the people that matter to those who I’m a fan of. I’ll respect her as their friend but I see no reason to support or defend her at the times she brings it on herself.

Credit to Team Hudgens: Variety March 30, 2009

Emily Browning lands ‘Sucker Punch’
Actress to star in Zack Snyder’s fantasy-drama
By DAVE MCNARY

Warner Bros. has tapped Australian thesp Emily Browning (”The Uninvited”) for the lead in Zack Snyder’s fantasy-drama “Sucker Punch.”

Abbie Cornish, Vanessa Hudgens, Emma Stone and Evan Rachel Wood also star. Browning’s previous credits include “Ned Kelly” and “Lemony Snicket.”

Snyder will direct and produce with his wife and producing partner, Debra Snyder, through their Cruel and Unusual Films banner. Wesley Coller is exec producing.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vanessa Hudgens fan @ 03/30/2009 at 9:53 pm

Zac and Vanessa are grow up they both have amazing movie career ahard of them. Zac and Vanessa will get bigger movie roles. vanessa is a sweet girl that is why Zac fall in love her. Zac and Vanessa support each others careers.

I can’t wait to see 17 again and Me And Orson Welles with Zac. As for Vanessa I can’t to see what other movies she gets.

gracemarie @ 03/30/2009 at 10:24 pm

Karen:

THanks so much I have to admit I am not use to such cruelty and so my reaction was anger and offense. You are probably right and even being around the business with my husband (who thinks your quite brilliant by the way) I am still shocked by such behavior.

My husband says I’ve always been easily hurt for other people I guess he’s right - my students would agree. He never reads the boards but I copy stuff and show him it makes him laugh often and some posters he thinks write very well and relives pressure.

Anyway I will attempt to ignore Sleaze Hilton and his cohorts. My grandmother would say “leave them to God” and I will.

there’s a new post in jjj about vanessa’s ecko thingy… it shows her posing and stuff.. beyond cuteness…. must see if you luv her…..

as far as ashley’s matter, please just stop…. you wouldn’t like it if haters criticize vanessa for every single thing so don’t do the same….
if ashley as some of you stated want to ***** herself then let her be lol .. if she wants to be conceited etc, what does it have anything to do with nessa ? as long as it doesn’t “hurt” other people, i think it’s up to her ….

i think it depends on what your original position was
if you never been a fan of ashley, this will be a good reason to hate her more…
but if you’re her fan or at least like her, you would come to your senses and think that if vanessa doesn’t have a problem with it, why should you….

Ahh, Gracemarie, sorry I missed you. When it is day for you, it will be night for me about 12 hrs apart. Lovely, to see Team Hudgens here as well.

For your info, Karen, Go Sox, Narf, Troy, V-loyalist, Kgg,Steph and Robin were part of the original Angels. Troy was known as Charlie. They formed an alliance or is it allegience on JJ and called themselves Zanessa Angels.

Then along came Audrey, Ellie and Ayen who set up Zaangels. I’m a 2nd generation Angel. And then came others. Things changed, some people moved on. VABN was established much earlier to cater to the Disney princesses(correct me if I’m wrong).

Now we have TeamHudgens made up of mainly mature fans dedicated to Vanessa. Hope I’ve given you a gist of the evolution of Vanessa’s fans. Those days we had to battle alot of immature posters. Nowadays, I’m so glad to note that the threads are filled with wisdom, maturity,educational and knowledgeable tidbits and are of a higher calibre, altogether.

amen to what boji said. I as well am a member of TH and the girls who run that site run it with integrity and maturity. I am proud to be a part of Vanessa’s older more mature fan base, and VABN is the same in my opinion. Thanks again to the girls who run TH. They are a fantastic group of young ladies that know the balance between expressing yourself, honoring others. I am glad to be associated with such a group of fans.

gracemarie @ 03/31/2009 at 12:30 am

I lurk on VABN and Team Hudgens and love the maturity of both sites. I am not a big fan of ZaAngles as everytime I’ve gone there there was a anti Vanessa feel I got from the moderators well at least Audrey. Or should I say a feeling that they tolerated Vanessa but Zac was all that mattered

Anyway they now have separate boards I hear so the whole purpose of the site really doesn’t exist anymore. It’s not a Zanessa site anymore. I’m sad that became necessary.

Gracemarie, you are right. What more can I say.

Vancrazed, thanks, buddy.

Yes, gracemarie, the ZA thing is very sad since it stood for Zanessa’s Angels. So Vanessa was very much a part of that site—or was suppose to be, hence the name zaNESSA. To me, if the want to be a Zac site, so be it, but they really should chance the name to maybe Zac’s Angels. But the young woman who ORIGINALLY conceceived the idea was a big Zanessa fan and posted on JJ for quite a time. However, I’m not sure that she has much say in that site anymore.

Sorry, but I feel I must mention, Chika, Chay and Ayen are the founder members of Team Hudgens. Chay is also an active admin. staff on VABN. Together, they make Team Hudgens a stress free haven.

gracemarie;

As I sit here a hundred shades of crimson, I can ASSURE you and your husband that I am not brilliant and I can offer proof by suppying names from this very board who will attest to that fact. LOL But I do raise a lot of peopl’s ire on JJ for whatever reason. Threee other people can say the same thing I have said in a post—a whole lot better in fact— and it will be me the hater will take exception to. It’s just a “gift”, I guess… LOL

Over the years I just have listened and watched people with what they say and how they respond in certain situations. I find that many people will respond certain ways in certain situations. I’m kind of opened with myself. I have accepted when I am jealous or why I’m uncomfortable in certain situation—kind of laid myself bear even if it was hurtful to find the whys and the wherefores. I had a great need for KNOWING. Of course I find I have a lot of questions too with each passing day. For a long time I have examined things like that and learned to go on gut instinct also. I don’t think people’s natures are all that different. We are complicated to a degree but like a movie there are only going to be just so many plots and only so many reasons a person is driven to their actions and thoughts. That’s where I’m coming from and how I derive my opinions, etc.

gracemarie @ 03/31/2009 at 1:51 am

Karen:

I understand.

I was on JJJ just a few moments ago and watched as some very sick persons attack a 13 year old child because she was Vanessa’s sister. The level of insanity tolerated here is indescribable sometimes.

What nasty things people will do to ease their own pain and inadequacies.

Unfortunately it seem some of those people are con JJs staff-I see the posts from yesterday are still there..

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Sonner or later

Karen, I haven’t forgotten. You were the Wise One and still am in my book. Your compassion, your profession and your beliefs stood you in good stead. Granted there are others more eloquent but don’t belittle yourself. You provided comfort and hope and compassion to alot of tweenies and teenies out there who look up to you.

I was more taken with your indepth biblical knowledge. The other person who I also admire is Malia who is one helluva writer. She wrote some profound and insightful yet witty articles.

First, I am sorry for all the typing mistakes in all my previous posts, I simply type too fast and am always in a hurry so I do not go back and check for mistakes. Unless it is a huge error which I think some will not be able to figure out I don’t go bakc in another comment and correct myself.

That being said on with a concern of mine: just who is minding the store so to speak? One time last year similar type comments were made insulting Vanessa’s family members and they were deleted off the board so why are the ones that have been reported for abuse now left? JJ, just who do you have moderating the comments?

Boji, thank you.

Remember, JJ is too busy making the rounds in the social circuit doing his PR and has obviously left this site in “capable” hands.

wow i must say I am APPALLED by the responses and hate I have seen you lot giving Ashley. she is a wonderful girl and just because Perez bashes on Vanessa is absolutly NO reason for her to not attend. Perez has never been mean to her and ashley is a VERY nice girl hence why she is nice to him. She is nice to everuyone. I met ashley and shes the sweetest person you could ever hope t meet and shes not just out for herself. she is not that type of person and you dont know her so stop insulting her for no reason at all. I admire and respect her for being sucgh a honest down to earth amazing young woman. i woudl be proud to be associated with her

Charlene, calm down. I know you’re Ashley’s number one fan. Where is the hate you claim we are throwing at Ashley? Ashley’s her own person. This thread is not about Ashley and some of the comments made is a generalisation. The singling Ashley out is made by a few immature posters, no doubt.

Just do not lump us rational fans into a “LOT”, do you mind. None of us has said otherwise about Ashley. Stop with your irrational ranting and take it elsewhere, JJjr or VABN perhaps where I have noticed quite a few there.

Pls Vote for Zac for Time Magazine most influential People.
Calling all Zanessa and HSM fans Pls!!!!!!!!!!!

Boji im sorry but there was ALOTR of people on here insulting ashley and everything and i had to defend her. you would do the same had it been vanessa they were picking on .

Charlene, I did speak in Ashley’s defence on VABN if you bothered to read the posts. I’m also speaking on behalf of the rational fans and posters here. Anyway, apologies accepted. Perhaps you could be more specific as to whom you are directing your attack or defence the next time. Peace out.

I am a baby here (as opposed to my age, ha…ha..) compared to the regular and original posters/fans here but I try my best to keep the board discussions positive. I have learned a lot from reading all the posts here and on the side, have made cyber friends too (a shoutout to my friends in VABN and Team Hudgens).

We all try our best to keep the discussions here positive as JJ is a well known public blog and I know that a lot of people lurk here, though they don’t leave a comment. We can only do so much but on a happy note, Zac and Van have signed on to new movie projects.
Yeah….

I just want to take a moment and thank Karen,Boji,Malia,go sox and every other zac/vanessa fan who has made this site such a wonderful place to come to. Your comments are truly wonderful and inspiring.Before I would come here I never admitted that I was a fan, I was always ashamed of whta my firends would think of me, but you showed me that it doesn’t matter what age,country, or religion you are and that it’s nothing to be ashamed of. I love how despite how many haters come here and whine,complain,spread rumors,or say anything disrespectful toward zac or vanessa or even to you you always brush them off and continue spreading postiveness. I have been coming here for quite some time and it just seems that nothing gets under your skin which is quite amazing judging by how many immature haters who love to spread their venom here. If only there were more people in the world like you the world would be a better place. God bless you all :)

Zac and Vanessa are grow up they both have amazing movie career ahard of them

I ONLY WANT TO SAY :L EAVE THEM ALONE

Zac and Vanessa are good people. I respect them for trying to keep their relationship out of the spotlight. Good for them.

Karen it is good to have people here on this site supporting Zac and Vanessa like you do.

HER OUTFIT IS HORIBLE BUT HER HAIR IS OK PERFECT

Charlene, while you’re being appalled on Vanessa and Zac’s thread, Ashley needs your comments on her thread. I think Ashley will do whatever she has to for her career including being “nice” to whoever will promote her. I glad Vanessa has intergrity and doesn’t sell out. Perez id only nice to Ashley now because she kisses up to him. Do you really think Zac took the time to send something to Perez or do you believe as I do his PR people did out of politeness?

#204–Nash;
Thank you, you give this old lady hope! I’ve been missing your posts and wondering if you were alright.

#209–cindy:
Well, I certainly try. Everyone doesn’t like our efforts but we keep on . We have developed some tough skin by now. LOL

tee…..
i don’t work in hollywood so how am i supposed to know about how things work there..
but as i see, promotion is promotion
as long as it doesn’t go into negative direction…..
i still CAN’T believe how many of you attack Ashley just because of one thing that neither right and wrong…
I am SURE if vanessa went to the party ( I doubt she would though just IF ), her fans will say things like Oh see, she’s nice even though prz attack her, she is still nice blah blah blah that’s because nothing sinful can be seen from someone we support,,,

As far as my opinion, I don’t think it’s a RIGHT move to promote her album but if she had other reasons such as having fun with her friends, seeing Christina Aguilera live as she is her favorite, etc then more power to her…

again, it back to our original position. If you never been a fan of Ashley, this will be a GREAT reason to hate her more.. but if you’re a fan or at least respect her and her friendship with nessa, you will come to your senses that if vanessa is ‘OK’ with it, why should we complaint……

beside, this is zanessa post… don’t talk about ashley and then attack her :-)

Based on everything I’ve read from them/ Zikki fans = filthy cockroaches.

gracemarie @ 03/31/2009 at 9:38 pm

Karen:

Glad to see folks are appreciating your posts. You Go Girl.

We haven’t seen our buds Malia and Poppy for awhile hope they are having a blast

#214, forrealz, they are living in a fantasy world they have created from a movie that was made over two years ago. Nothing based in reality. Just a sick fantasy. And what they are suggesting/praying for makes both Zac and Nikki appear to be immoral, indecent, and totally uncaring people. They are doing a terrible disservice to the person they allegedly admire.

tee ashley doesnt just act nice she really is nice. ok she is nice to perez b.c thats the type of person she is a NICE preson people plz whoever is insulting ashley stop it she doesnt deserve that

I was surprised to see pictures of Ashley coming out of a Bar in Hollywood last night with Samantha Drok, but she is moving on. I am just hoping and praying she was not drinking and then driving because the pictures did show she was the driver (designated I hope). She seems to have a good head on her shoulders but she has been “into this particular type of partying recently”. I KNOW she is promoting her album and is trying to get “out there” to get her name before the public, but the Mom in me says - take it slow Ashley and think it out clearly!!. We love you and want you to take it slow in moving into the adult world.

Confucius quotes to reflect upon:

• Do not impose on others what you yourself do not desire.
• Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it.
• Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.
• To see and listen to the wicked is already the beginning of wickedness.
• What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others.
• When anger rises, think of the consequences.
• Wisdom, compassion, and courage are the three universally recognized moral qualities of men.
• Without feelings of respect, what is there to distinguish men from beasts?

Zac Efron fan and supporter. @ 04/01/2009 at 1:23 am

Zac and Vanessa are two of the best people in the world. I hate the paps and Tmz because they are so rude. Zac and Vanessa are just two people trying to live the lifes.

I just wished the paps and Tmz would could being rude. I Think Zac and Vanessa’s PR people should sue the pap and Tmz. How can the paps get away this I have no idea. it is not there job to hate on Movie stars.

Btw Zac and Vanessa looks amazing at the KCA. They looked so much in Love with each other.

Pit, I am most positive ashley was not drinking. She has said on numerous occasions that she is not a partier she doesnt drink or smoke or any of that stuff but she does enjoy dancing so thats prob why she was there

Malia, atta girl. I love your quotes especially the last one” Without feelings of respect, what is there to distinguish men from beasts?”

everybody this post is about zac and vanessa

that´s all

other Ashley fans should be like Tizzfan, i have been reading your latest posts so far and i like how you defended Ashley without bashing others. Nice. and very objective posts too. im not much of an ashley fan but i think this bashing is uncalled for

I guess some people here are BEASTS

Yeah!!!! Gucci asked Vanessa and Amanda to co-host the launch of the new Flora fragrance event at Chateau Marmont . Wow!!!!

The house tapped Amanda Seyfried and Vanessa Hudgens to co-host the event for the youthful scent, along with Vogue’s Lisa Love, and the vibe was more high school than Hollywood . . .

http://www.wwd.com/lifestyle-news/eye/guccis-late-bloomers-2088950?src=rss/recentstories/20090401

gracemarie @ 04/01/2009 at 5:46 pm

Malia:

Put this in the Funny or Die posts so more can see it LOL

Nash, it’s SO nice to see you here again!! A lot of us are older and VERY experienced in life, but it’s the best having such a mix of ages here. It always brings great perspective to our discussions, as long as people stay respectful of each other’s thoughts and opinions. Sometimes that doesn’t happen. But it’s so good to have you back….it’s been a long time!

I think it’s amazing when people say “the first trailer however is horrible.” and then when someone does the same thing to their favorite celebrity, they go back and call them “haters” and starts being righteous. It works both way of course, but it’s still funny to see them. I don’t really get why they keep coming to Vanessa thread but eh…

i heard that ashley will be starring in zacs movie the life and death of charlie st cloud

ayen, I know you referring to me… anyway if you want my opinion on ashley’s new movie TCFU i will say that it’s even worse trailer and storyline…..
bandslam trailer did not do the story a good justice at all…
lots of people are wondering where is the story…. even a lot of die-hard vanessa fans said that the trailer even though obviously EXCITING is not as great as people was expected…

i admit that I am not vanessa fan, recently I am not even ashley fan anymore. I can’t call myself a fan since I don’t even buy anything from them other than hsm concert dvd.
However, I happen to love Disney in general and ashley was the first person I found after i left disney for a while when lizzie mcguire stop showing..

I can choose different username and no one will know I am an ashley fan…. you just judge me because of my username ?

i know you’re really cool and nice because i read your posts for a while but please , I am not in any mean haters…

p.s : my grammar sucks so sorry :-)

tizzfan, I’m happy to see you addmit you are not a vanessa fan after all the post where you said you were while making negative comments. I’m sorry but when it comes to Ashley, I like her but I have no doubt that if the ship were sinking she’d push over everybody to save herself.

i have to say that i don’ really know the definition of being a fan at all….
just like I say, i am not an ashley fan either if by fan, you mean i have to defend her every action…..
i am not saying i am not a vanessa fan which means i hate her…
i like her a lot and sometimes share happiness (lol) with people in FF if we got her new pictures especially zanessa ones…

i just think it’s best to say that I am not her fan because everytime i say i am her fan no one believes me anyway and even the fans somehow attack me more than they attack the real haters possibly because my username…

peace !!!

I wasn’t talking about Ashley’s new movie tizzfan. But let’s face it, people were doing the same thing w/ Ashley’s new single. They judged it first hand based on a 10 sec preview and you went on defensive went people started saying that it sounded like ‘pink’, etc… You’re always like that. You keep saying you’re not a fan of Ashley, or that you don’t really know if you’re a fan, or how to treat her etc etc…but you always keep coming to Vanessa post, post up something positive and underneath it you always add something negative. But when it comes to Ashley, when fans start having ****, then you get defensive again. That’s why I can never take your words sincerely.

I’m fine w/ people not liking Vanessa or when they give constructive criticism, but your post? They always confuse me. There’s always something negative behind your words. why sugarcoat it and then put something negative? Why can’t you just be direct instead?

and don’t make excuses on your username either because you didn’t start out as ‘tizzfan’. In fact I know you most as Diana or Diane or whatever you call yourself in vabn.

tee you dont know ashley and that was very rude of you to say. ahsley woudl most likely make sure everyone she loved were safe

well whatever lah
whatever i said you wouldn’t believe my anyway…
i just don’t get why you’re wasting time on me when I never intent to bash vanessa at all…..while at the same time, there are lots of hater that you might want to actually spend your time with…

peace !!

She always dresses like a hooker.

FELICIDADES LA GANADORA DEL AÑO ES VANESSA HUDGENS

SE GANÓ AL CHICO MAS BELLO, HERMOSO , CON LA MEJOR RISA, ZAC EFRON EL CHICO MAS CHURRO DE HOLLYWOOD

SABES QUE VANESSA TE FELICITO QUE ESTES DE NOVIA CON ZAC TE SALVASTE POR QUE HAY OTROS QUE SON MUY ANTIPATICAS EN VEZ VOS SOS LA CHICAS MAS BONITA DEL MUNDO Y ESPERO QUE SIGAS ASI Y NO LO DEJES ESCAPAR A ZAC POR QUE VALE LA PENA TENERLO
IN BESO GRANDE SI LES INTERESA MI NUMERO ES 79938936 LLAMENME SI PUEDEN UN BESO GRANDE LOS AMO A LOS DOS…………………….

SHE LOOKS SO OLD!!!!!!!! JUST LIKE 50 YEARS OLD WOMAN!!!!!!!! SHE LOOKS LIKE A M-O-N-K-E-Y!!!!!!!!!!!

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