Brad Pitt: Happy Birthday Knox & Vivienne!

Happy 1st Birthday Knox & Vivi. Thanks Jared for the birthday thread

Brad is looking mighty hot.

OT to Ground Control:
Sorry I posted the answer to your question on the last thread because by the time I saw there was a new one I had already hit send,

Here it is:

ebmo @ 07/11/2009 at 11:19 pm OT to Ground Control

447 groundcontrol @ 07/11/2009 at 6:35 pm

Thanks you for bringing that out. I have pointed this out myself at various times over the years when her enemies insist on twisting her words and imbuing them with their own negative spin.
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Well, I am impressed with your credentials, ebmo. I have represented more addicts than I can even count. I am always using experts for guidance. Good to know there is an expert on the board.
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Ebmo, what’s the current expert opinion on experimentation with snorting heroin? I realize it’s a different and harder drug but I know too many people who snorted cocaine back in the day - and on a regular basis for extended periods of time - yet for the most part when they decided it was getting too expensive they stopped without needing any kind of rehab and they didn’t return to use. I’m not saying they didn’t miss it - some a lot - but in the end they were okay with the fact it was no longer a part of their life. Of course as they matured partying was also pretty much a thing of the past for them. Don’t know if it matters but these were all well paid, hard working professionals at the time and continued as such with full lives and most eventually with families.
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Have you ever used your addiction expertise to try an assessment of those so negatively obsessed with Angie and her family? They are so pro-active about it to such an extreme that there must be some level of addictive behavior involved. Or I suppose they are just plain b i t c h e s. LOL!
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Hiya GC!
A substance is a substance is a substance. Generally only the methods of delivery are the variables. IV injection creates an intense “rush” within about 30 seconds, snorting; 30-60 seconds, smoking; within 3-4 minutes, orally takes the longest and some drugs cannot be delivered via the stomach.

When diagnosing addiction there is a continuum. - Use, Abuse, Dependence and Addiction. - Any person can fall somewhere in that range. (For example anyone who has ever gotten smahed - has abused substances.

When someone is assessed for addiction they are generally given a battery of tests as well as a personal interview. It is a lot more complicated than someone getting a DUI, or someone using substances ocassionally.

We generally look for repeated themes of the “big six”:

“SUBSTANCE DEPENDENCE (ADDICTION/ALCOHOLISM)

THREE or more of the following:

TOLERANCE
WITHDRAWAL

LARGE AMOUNTS OVER A LONG PERIOD

UNSUCCESSFUL EFFORTS TO CUT DOWN

TIME SPENT IN OBTAINING THE SUBSTANCE REPLACES
SOCIAL, OCCUPATIONAL OR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES

CONTINUED USE DESPITE ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES ”
*DSM-IV-TR

We take the results of all these tests/interviews as well as the DSM-IV-TR criteria - and assess their level of use.

Sniffing has just as much potential for addiction as IV use. Use or abuse does not mean addiction. It is very common for some CDPs and addictionaologists to “see” addiction in every substance, (Dr. Drew frequently does this with his off the cuff diagnosis’ which is technically a violation of ethics)

The other school of thought is that ANYTHING has the potential to be abused….it is all whether or not when use becomes a problem, money, relationships, work, or negative consequences, the person STOPS.

People stop all the time after a period of use. Heroin is a lot easier for the body to recover from than alchoholl….even when it reaches the addiction stage. Alcohol withdrawal can lead to seizures and death , Heroin withdrawal might make you wish you were dead but there is little danger of occurrence.

In addtion, Alcohol is legal and commonly accepted at social events, easily available, Very visable etc. etc. Alcohol is regulated by the FDA so there is little chance it is tainted with Fentanyl or another substance that could cause a synergistic effect. Less chance of overdose but when combined with other substances….huge chance of death, and dead means the same, whoever you are.

Every person is diferent….just depends. Eric Clapton had a huge “snorting” addiction to Heroin way back when, he has admitted he was under treatment with a private Psychiatrist for 3 years trying to kick it.

I am not surprised you have known people who have snorted it who have quit it…it happens all the time.

Happy birthday Knox and Vivienne.

Wish we could see pictures. *sigh*

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/happy-birthday-vivienne-knox-jolie-pitt

The world’s most famous twins - Vivienne Marcheline and Knox Leon Jolie-Pitt turn one year old tomorrow, July 12, and RadarOnline.com would like to be the first to wish them Happy Birthday!

The youngest of Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s six kids were born in Nice, France at a hospital not far from their parents’ famed Chateau Miraval estate; and the life they have ahead of them should be one big adventure.

Their older siblings Maddox, Pax, Zahara and Shiloh have already gone flying, sailing, and dirt-biking. They’ve lived in Los Angeles, New York City, New Orleans, Paris and Berlin. They’re being raised bilingual; English and French. They have the latest in kid fashion and closets full of hand-me-downs. The girls go to dance class with mom. The boys play soldier and do bumper cars with dad.

What a life they have in store for them. Here’s to many more happy birthdays!

brad has the family he ALWAYS WANTED. Angie gave that to him. God bless this wonderful family!!!!!!!

Happy Birthday Knox and Viv. Hope will see pictures tomorrow.

Happy birthday to the twins,knox and viv-this is an interesting article on raising 1yr twins

http://www.raising-twins.com/raising-one-year-old-twins.html

Happy birthday Knox & Viv !!!!

God bless the Jolie-Pitt Family.
Hello to Cecile,senior,Neleh,vicki,anoble,MF,Briseis,Bailey,neer,ebmo,estelle,pt,bdj,tondo gilr,african girl,alex,andromeda,Felinelilly,alexanderina,val,Jill,cliniqua,teri,yolly,Dina#1,Debra77 & to all lurking tonight.

Jolie Pitts is the most beautiful family. God bless the family. Happy Birthday knox and vivi.

Happy birthday Knox anf Vivienne. Oh JJ just a glimpse of the twins will be a great great great happy moments. I hope the grandparents will let us see them at least even just one picture….Can someone email or call the JP family…Just a one picture….What happen to People Magazine did you at least offer for any family pictures.

Wooowwwwwww!!! One year! So fast.

***HAPPY BIRTHDAY VIVIENNE AND KNOX.***

GOD BLESS YOU.