Brad Pitt: Celebrity Pilot

blonde hair!!!!!yes yes yes

Is that M. Knight Shamalyan(sp?) with Brad Pitt?????

That's not Angelina's plane it's a rented one from the Paris airport. He is blond. The letters are the airport location in Nice. The staff must of given it to him. The airport crew apparently threw a dinner for Brad and Angie Monday night

haha!

looked like M. Night Shyamalan, doesn't he?

haha!

looks like M. Night Shyamalan, doesn't he?

Yeah Bradley! Thanks JJ for the pixs.
The man does know how to wear a shirt. Yum!

We don't really care who's or what plane he is using. What matters is that he is clearly happy. So I am happy for him. You go Brad! :)

We don't really care who's or what plane he is using. What matters is that he is clearly happy. So I am happy for him. You go Brad! :)

We don't really care who's or what plane he is using. What matters is that he is clearly happy. So I am happy for him. You go Brad! :)

He is so HOT and he is back blonde.
He looks really happy.

BAMZ+1 RULES

Bradley...Bradley...Bradley!!!!

That man just does it for me. The more he ages the better he gets. I even find the gray in the beard scruff...just damn sexy. Angie is a lucky girl.

His hair is Blonde becasue the picture is old, and no that is not M. Knight

His hair is Blonde because the picture is old, and no that is not M. Knight

Brad looks healthly. He put on some weight. His hair is back. Check out that chest.

Rica is there another fanfic,I am having withdrawls. And Yeah Baby Brad looks HOTT!

that picture is not old, jesus, its dated on ramey pictures as a couple days ago. He looks very good!!

HE IS SO GAWD DAMN HOTTTTT

he looks gorgeous isnt that true julia!

how come one person commented that these are old pictures??
what the heck! brad is still hot!

Ange, Yes there is a new Fanfic. Just read it and it is Wonderful.

HOT BODY.

is hair is Blonde because the picture is old?? the date is 03.15.06

how come one person commented that brad has gained weight??

YUMMY! Thanks JJ!!!

he looks good, great body but i hate the beard....

Thanks Rica again for another wonderful chapter...Matt is going to be ready for a photo shoot with my sister's magazine in a couple of months...may be more juice bean for you?...we will see.

duh dumbsh*t the same day as the airport with the family.. Same clothes, same hat not old!
get your facts straight..

# 13 | linda z | March 16, 2006 01:11 PM

Linda Z,

The pictures where taken MARCH 15, 2006.

http://community.livejournal.com/brad_news/134736.html#cutid4

jpf

man...can i just have a kiss from braddy??? he's hot!!

Rugged sexy! He looks very happy

Brad is just so handsome! I love the ruggedness, gruffiness, and swagger. He looks peaceful, happy, and content and that's all a good sign that he/they just shine the haters on, and "just get on because they've got much bigger fish to fry like being a family, and no reason to waste energy on the negatives.

I like his thickness now. He's put on a few pounds, but you can see that it's in the right places. Love them Jolie-Pitts!

jpf

ok he loos hot ,ok the man has a great body..but he looks happy in this pics when brad is with angelina the poor looks unhappy and miserable.

# 32 | laura | March 16, 2006 01:43 PM

That's interesting that you say that since these pics (in the white shirt) were taken the same day that the ones when he's in the airport with his family, and he looked exactly the same "happy, handsome, smiling, and content." Here's a link with all the pic's all at the same time,,,,,,,and in ALL of them "even with Angelina", he never changes his countenance.

http://community.livejournal.com/brad_news/134736.html#cutid4

jpf

Where is Rica's new chapter posted?

You know what,He always had the big glued on smile with JA,and as we know now was not happy for a long time. I don't blame him,let them wonder. All I know since I have a child, is pregnant sex is GOOOOD sex. He gets to hold her,and feel his baby move,feel that life they created out of love, he gets to talk to her Belly at nights so the baby will recognize his voice. Unless you have a child under loving circumstances,you will not understand what goes on between the parents to be. Whether they last or not and again I love long shots so my money is on them lasting. These two will be forever bound by these children. No matter what happens,for the most part,you can never have strong negative feelings for someone you have a child with.

YUCK!!! Are you joking? Brad looks like he is about MD age now!! So sad to see such a hottie turn into a scruffy mess. JA might have been a lot of annoying things but she sure new how to keep her man looking, or at least wanting to look, good. AJ is BRAD PITTS DOWNFALL YOU WILL ALL SEE!! HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH BYE BYE PITT LOSERS!!!

Does anyone notice that BP is only smiling.... a real smile... when he is away from AJ?? What is up with that? I think he might realize he bit of more than he can chew...

pics depict instances in time, they don't tell the whole story! geesh, my take on why brad looks tense when he's out w/ his family cuz he has to worry about the lunatic paps. would u be smiling if strange guys were shoving a camera in your family's faces 24/7?

Thanks JJ! Brad looks fine & handsome! You guys realize that out in public most celebs seem to put on a poker face! I sure would if I was followed around like a wild animal! Rock on Jolie-Pitt family!

#34 rica fan,

if you read her previous fanfics you know where they are...in the usual thread

^what and where is the usual thread?

Luckyyyyyyyyy! Ugg, that looks like so much fun!!

Those lips, that tongue, that chest, those abs....

and we can't forget....THAT ASS!

Amazing Grace...How Sweet!!!

This man is awesome whether dressed to kill or shaggy to the bone.

SoooO true...Brad seems happiest without the witch AJ. Maddox looks 100% happiest with him too as opposed to his time with the witch (I can't wait to read the Mommy dearest novel in seeral years!). The baby...well...she most definitely does not seem like a happy, 'bouncy' baby.

WHo knows, right? But my bet is that the sheer excitement of a new baby will keep them together for now. Give it a few years and there disntinct differences will slit them apart. SHe is bound to expode back into her 'old' perverse ways ...she cannot continue acting like the demure, devoted 'wife'.

# 36 | YUCK!! | March 16, 2006 02:04 PM

Ah, Jr HS. I see you had a break before the next class began...what to do, what to do BINGO! I see you decided to jumo online and show your age.

jpf

yuck...he loos scruffy yes but hot-hot, he doen´t feel the need to look like is in the oscar or a premiere...the man is in saint tropez flying!

did angie ever act like a demure wife? i dont think so. she is one hot unconventional momma and her kids are gonna love her for that. brad sure got damn lucky

Curious if you didn't know, then you don't need to know.

are you curious or furious (you know fakey bamz+1 lovers but in reality is a true hater)...tell me first b4 i tell u

Why are Aniston fans so fearful of the truth? You can still like jennifer and know her for the imperfect person she really is.

Or do you always run from the truth in life?
Only at Lainey Gossip - not even Ted Casablanca has this scoop! Fresh, as in this morning, from a strategically placed spy in LA ...here's the not-so-exciting scoop: The Pitts, as widely reported, have been doomed for a while: since as early as 2003, when Brad made some telling comments in a magazine interview saying that love doesn't have to be forever, that he and Jen knew that, and that if their ride had to end...it would end, and they would accept it. When the (inexplicable) buzz around her performance in The Good Girl took her to a new level, Jen put Brad off babies until the end of Friends. When the 9th season concluded with an extension, she once again promised one more year. In that time she was signed to nearly 5 upcoming projects...without consulting him first. Her big mistake was not telling him before the scripts would arrive. When he saw her accepting role after role - and had to read about it in the daily trades - he confronted her. And to hold him off, she relented again...temporarily. So the deal is: she finishes the show, he finishes Mr. & Mrs. Smith and Oceans 12 over the summer of 2004...and then they take a break. What happens? Derailed. As in the movie co-starring Clive Owen. She signs on with, yet again, no warning to Brad and it's off to couples therapy we go. Wouldn't you know it...every interview she gave last year leading up to the Friends finale was taped while the two were in counselling. And although she had absolutely NO intention of having a kid any time soon, she still persisted in saying on Diane Sawyer, and Oprah, and ET, and on and on and on...that a baby was on its way (which means she's a better actress than we give her credit for). This further infuriated Brad. 'Obviously your image is more important than actually making what you say real...why are you going on tv saying one thing and then refusing to get this done as soon as you get home?' Next up: filming with Angelina. Jen nearly lost it when she heard about the on-screen chemistry. So she flies to Cannes to open Troy with her husband and they spend a few weeks in Europe where things were actually getting better. For the sake of the marriage, after getting advice from his parents, he was willing to wait, understanding that his wife clearly had many issues to resolve within herself and wasn't ready at the time for a baby anyway. Besides, no one wanted to affect the box office sales of Oceans 12, so the two pledged yet again to give it a go. The problem is, they hardly spent any quality time together in the fall. Jennifer was filming back to back pictures, he was getting ready for the Oceans promo, and ...as my source says, he wasn't willing to be the only person injecting some sincerity and romance in to their marriage anymore. And then came the Oceans 12 cast interview with Diane Sawyer when Brad visibly choked up and said he would like nothing more than to have a little girl like Jen running around. When news of the interview reached Jen, she hit the roof, prompting a huge fight, and the famous 'London' incident when he ended up celebrating his birthday alone last December and she was photographed at the airport, upset and, some say, without her wedding ring. They briefly reconnected over Christmas, made the decision together without fanfare and then joined Courteney and David on vacay for one last hurrah to escape the media frenzy when the announcement dropped on January 7th. However...what started out as an amicable split is getting increasingly nastier as time goes on. Brad is pissed that she hasn't come out to refute the infidelity rumours, that she is content to milk the public's affection and let him look like a cheating scumbag only because she wants to turn it around for her career. Which is exactly why the couple's close friend Catherine Keener (her husband is Dermot Mulroney who guest starred as 'Gavin' on Friends) has almost cut Jen off completely, disgusted at her self-serving behaviour. You'll note, Catherine was one of Jen's closest galpals, along with Kathy Najimy and the three used to have girls' nights almost every week for years. In recent months, Catherine has made a point of being publicly photographed with Brad, while keeping her distance from Jen. And finally...regarding Angelina and the alleged hanky panky on the Smith set... my source says: 'Lainey, he's straight! Show me a guy who isn't going to get a hard-on when Angelina's lying on top of you all sweaty and skimpy dressed...can you? No! So what makes you think Brad Pitt's going to be able to. But he didn't screw her...for sure. Last summer, he was still really in to Jen. He's a pretty loyal guy. When that (insert bad word here) Gwyneth cheated on him, he was nuts. He'd never put anyone else in that position, you know? But now? Game on man. A guy's gotta do...know what I'm sayin'?' And there you have it. Take it for what you will. Call it bullsh*t if you want. Hell...I want to! But remember this: would that kind of story sell as many magazines as an illicit high profile affair???

Reported On 28/04/2005

I'm glad he's blond again, and it must be nice to just be able to do almost anything in the world you want to.. They are really living and enjoying life. Very happy for them.

We all know that Brad morphs into his girfriends, but now Ange is morphing him into Billy Bob! Scruffy, hairy face, etc!

At this fast pace of mutation, imagine how closely they will resemble each other in one month. Aghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# 44 | brad looks like hell | March 16, 2006 02:39 PM

Remember you said all of it that ok? I know it makes some feel better to believe he's not where he wants to be, and with who he wants to be with, but that's tought because the guy is in heaven. He's crazy about Angelina, and she him, and I think that's whats killing so many because you know its true". I've been a Brad fan for 15yrs without fail, and thru every woman, but I never saw him this happy, peaceful, content, and just simply not bogged down with hollywood life. He and Angelina are gonna be around and in love for a very long time. sorry

he looks HOT!!! being a dad, madly in love, just makes him SEXIER!!! ROCK ON BAMZt1!!!
and you know he is getting HOT, LOVING , COMPASSIONATE SEX!!!!

Billy Bob deja vue.....and you morph in several nicks.....get a life !

# 50 | the truth | March 16, 2006 02:48 PM

Thanks! I've read this before, along with watching the VH1 couple thing, and just too many other pretty darn clear as day things out there that prove beyond a doubt "Angelina had to nothing to do with the Aniston-Pitt marriage ending." Also, there's so much out there "even in Anistion-Pitt's own words" that they're troubles began long before Angelina was in the picture.

jpf

Thank you Jared, your pictures are always great so current , and ypour comments are always fair and concise.. I admire anyone who lives their lives as they want to and not what lothers and society deems.. I think that is why their activities upset so many peiple who do the oppiste just envy and a deep longing to have a life themselves.. Pitt Jolies congrats on alll you do ... best of luck.. your friend ..in Pa. Marla

Thanks JJ for more pictures of BAMZ..or in this set...more pictures of BP.

THAT MAN! Gosh, that man has a killer ASS!!!!!!!! Wow.

Love that Ass Brad.

BRAD LOOKS SO SEXY AMO A ESTE HOMBRE

GET A LIFE!!! Are you REALLY SERIOUS!! JPF or whoever... what do you do all day? I came to this post as a joke from my friend. I saw Jpf writes like 10 x's a day. Are you one the PR couples payroll.. I hope so because you have no life. The funny thing is JA sucks AJ sucks... I just can't belive how many of you post this craziness. THEY SHOULD BE CAREFUL FROM YOU ALL!!!! They are so in love? What the hell are you talking about. How the hell do you know anything about them?? GOD HELP us if you are all adults... I can see why the world is the way it is. We should put this much effort into our teachers and who educates our kids. BELIEVE ME I DO!! I don't need to have a camera crew around me to show how much I devote my time to things that matter. AJ and OPRAH are media WHORES who need attention and compliments on how much they give back. How about all the people that do the same thing and have jobs?? WTF does AJ do all day that she can't give something back huh? I could careless about JA who is a loser too. THESE PEOPLE ARE like trained monkeys.. they are paid to look good and ACT!! GROW UP ALL OF YOU!! My friend e-mailed me this link on how sad our world is... I hope you all no this blog circulates as a joke at MANY OFFICES!! Holy COW YOU PEOPLE ARE SAD!!!! GROW UP!!!!! blah blah go off on me, who cares.... you people are truly in need of a life!!!!

nevermind, i found it. btw rica, ur a great writer! maybe u should publish a children's book? lol, it would be better than madonna's for sure!

nevermind, i found it. btw rica, ur a great writer! maybe u should publish a children's book? lol, it would be better than madonna's for sure!

thanks for the pics jared, great update

the truth #50
I've been following this media crazed story since the beginning, to the point of obsession. Nothing and I mean nothing leads me to believe that Brad cheated ever in his life. Not with Juliette, not with Gwyneth, not with Robin, and not with Jen. Like you, I am happy that he has found love again. He deserves to and so does Angelina.

LOL Curious Good Job finding the fic. Glad you liked it. We all appreciate our Rica, the Resident writer.

Where the hell are all these Brad/Angelina fanfics??????

Am I blind?

is that you??? wow...you spent maybe an hour just to read this thread and now make comments about it...who is the loser now...i asked you...

the number one loser is of course #61....congratulations #61...you got the first price!!! THE BEST LOSER....LMAO :) :)

Riddle me Here, Riddle Me there
Think of All the places Bamz have gone
Rica took a long trip with them
But was left in the City alone.

#66 spinx

weeellllllll...d r n st. tropez, france...if u r good n solving puzzle...u no where to look 4 them....good luck in finding them....:)

the truth - -

Wow!

Convincing!

Cat, I am liking. This is fun isn't it? Does the Riddle make sense?

Jen did have a myspace site which she posted this right around the time when they announced the separation on Jan 7, 2005
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Well, since everything is formally stated, I guess I should address it, because I don’t feel like answering a million e-mails about this. The split was no one’s fault, please don’t blame Brad or myself for this, things don’t always work out the way you want them to…and this is one of those things.
We haven’t yet made it known if we’re divorcing, because we’re not exactly sure ourselves, we’re taking a break from each other though. The tabloid stories weren’t true, no one was cheating, no one was carousing around town, it just didn’t work out. Brad and I remain friends, although this will take some getting used to and I hope that you all understand that this will be hard for me and him in the next coming months, not only will we have fan outrage but media scrutinizing us, and it’d be easier if we just had everyone’s support. I’m probably not going to answer much about this, and knowing Brad, he won’t answer anything, so don’t bother him about it. We plan to remain friends and business partners. I thank all those fans for their support, I appreciate it a lot. Thank you.

Now let's see. . .who were all those people saying Brad was overweight? had let himself go? A picture is worth a thousand words! Thanks again JJ.
JLS

I tried, I really tried to imitate Jen's poses from Vogue. I practiced at home but I thought it might be better to go to the local grade school because she was using gymnastic equipment, sort of. I so went there and practiced her poses for four or five hours. And then I didn't realize that it was really late, like after midnight, because a poiceman came to the playground and asked me what I was doing and I told him I was trying to pose like Jennifer Aniston. "Who?" he asked. "You know, Jennifer Aniston. Brad Pitt's wife." He suddenly looked real ly interested.
"Oh, that hot chick from 'Tomb Raiders'", he said, smiling really happily.
"No! No, Jennifer Aniston. You know. From 'Friends'."
"Oh," he said, looking like he had just smelled something bad. But maybe it was the dog poop in the park. "HER. She's gotta get over it and move on." And then he told me to go home. I didn't want to know what she had to move on from.
So I went home to my J-E-N food of jambalya, endive and neapolitan ice cream, and another viewing of Rachel having the baby.

OMG....LMAO...you are killing me #74-anonie mouse.

Where's Kermit and the Lou's, real or otherwise today? I miss their abuse; they know it all. They see it all and they personally know shit.

Mouse, was the policeman mean to you? Don't worry about him not knowing Jen. He probably does not have own a TV....but how did he know about the hot chick from Tomb Raider I wonder? Oh, Oh I know, he probably just got a glimps of her from..the...from working security at the theater. That's it. And he meant MOVE UP not MOVE ON, Silly mouse you heard it all wrong. Move up to... a high Raiser. You know a penthouse instead of the Malibu Bungalow. You know, a pretty girl like that can't be too careful. A lot of people are envious of her. She needs all the security she can get. I'm glad you still have you friends DVD and I promise to get you the DVD for "Ferris Buller's Day off", oh I know, I know it was a very short series but she was spectacular in it. But babe, I am a little worried about this J E N only food, you need to eat better or you'll never get that pose. Think about it.

anonie mouse....my gosh...your so funny that i can't stop giggling here at my work and almost crying just to stiffle my giggles...mouse....i really really care about you...please stop eating food that just starts with the words jen....

#74: YOUR POST IS A CLASSIC!

HAHAHAHAHA! FUNNY

WEDDIN RUMORS ALERT: YAHOO AND AP JUST POSTED ARTICLE STATING BRANGELINA IS RUMORED TO BE GETTING MARRIED IN ITALY THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rumored being the word. Hope it isn't true though. It would be too much of a circus. They deserve something private and sweet, Donchathink?

# 74 | anonie mouse | March 16, 2006 04:33 PM

I was laughing so hard that my boss heard me. She wanted to know what was so funny so I had her read your post. She's still laughing. You really need to do stand up or at least start collecting all your earlier and future posts and get them published. Classic! ROTFLMAO

Poster # 61,I will never get the hypocrisy of people like you and whomever forwarded this blog,to prove where the world is heading. Keep forwarding,the more hits,the better for Jared. People like you sit around and lurk,thinking you are better for not posting,and not caring about celebrity life,I am sure if you had to choose,you would ditch your dilbert cubicle in a second. Most of us who grew up in this culture have this sub concious need to be voyuers,how else would you explain the likes of you reading this blog and getting all high and mighty,pretending to be better, for supposedly not being all caught up in it,guess what you are,the moment you took the time and energy to comment that people here are losers and are the joke of a bunch of mindless drones in their dilbert cubicles you became one of the so called losers. Welcome to the Club Baby!

LOL lola, I too have not stopped laughing. I have to say, you have a very cool Boss. Tell her all BAMZ fan's are happy she likes Mouse.

#71 yep it does...if u r bamz+1 lovers u know where to find the fanfics...:) :)

May he dyed his hair back because THEY ARE getting married this weekend :D

Mouse and Mouse fan -
Thank you so much for the laughs. Though, I too AM becoming concerned that all you ever eat are J-E-N foods Mouse.

roflmao

# 61 | To all the LOSERS!! | March 16, 2006 03:45 PM
GET A LIFE too.

# 84 | Lucky Lola | March 16, 2006 05:12 PM

My boss is hella cool. She understands that I work hard and I play hard. Her philosophy is that happy employees are more productive employees.
Also she's just plain nuts. :)

i only see brad smiling and happy when he is by himself. but when angie is around he looks totally unhappy. not even a smile on his face. what is wrong with him?

oh and one more thing, angie only looks happy and smiles when brad is around but when hes not with her and the kids she usually looks moody. unless maddox did something cute or something.

#90-#91-manmy...there are plenty of pictures of both of them smiling and even laughing together....you have to open your eyes, heart and mind.

I don't know--Brad has kind of a shit-eating grin on his face--wonder if the marriage rumors are true? BAMZ forever.

I'm laughing at all the comments from those who believe Brad is miserable because he doesn't smile. It never occurred to these posters that he's also a millionaire. Meaning, if he was so effing miserable, he can afford to leave IF HE WANTED TO. He must not be miserable.

I also think it's pretty funny that those who are putting down BAMZ fans study these pictures AWFULLY HARD trying to support a weak position. Zealous, much?

I'm laughing at all the comments from those who believe Brad is miserable because he doesn't smile. It never occurred to these posters that he's also a millionaire. Meaning, if he was so effing miserable, he can afford to leave IF HE WANTED TO. He hasn't because he doesn't want to.

I also think it's pretty funny that those who are anti-BAMZ study the pictures awfully hard trying to find anything feasible to support a weak position.

Estelle, Kidi and Pebbles, Guys don't bother. Honestly, it is a lost cause. People will see what they want to see.

Hi all of u.Say I am a BAMZ+1 fan for sure, but I must be somewhat internet illiterate, because I really do not know how to acces the fanfic.Is there some sort of a guide that I can look up?Thanx.

bamz+1 lovers did you smell something nasty and stinky as maumy pass by...wheew...i think she eat a lot of onions and spicy foods that her breathe and body are so stinky...we need humidifier/exterminator to extract the stinky maumy......ooh i know we need to wipe jj's with the chin...swipe it nicely so that maybe by miracle chin will become less chin and maumy will be exposed to the light of fresh air....whoooowww.ppfff..

#94 eyes

go and look for the riddle....lol and good luck for finding them....

Studying the pictures??? Sure Einstein, it is so hard to see if he is smiling or not. How can we not see these annoying people. Everytime I come to this site BPAJ seem to be the only stars in the world. I guess we can assume that JJ is obsessed as well. Even Pop sugar does not have this many AJ bending down.. AJ walking to her car 32 different shots.. you guys are obsessed and down right creepy. Why are some shots of her belly? What the hell are you looking for? Is she really pregnent? Before you say something about me sweetie... you better take a long look at yourself. These pictures come up and there are 96 posts in less than an hour. Talk about sad... weak position.. what the hell are you talking about? THIS IS HOLLYWOOD PEOPLE... SNAP OUT OF IT!!!! Brad looks BAD. END OF STORY.

I know African Girl, but at least we tried. Regarding the rumored of wedding?...did we have that rumored back in November and December of last year?....I feel a deja vue things going on. It would be nice if the rumor wasn't a rumor, but one can only hope....sigh!..

Eyes for the Fanfic
See where Bamz have being
Look for the sign that says
I am Lonely for the ones I love.

Cat were the curious One? Yes?
Pat yourself on the back.
For a Job you did so right.

The truth is actually the truth! I thought I was the only one who knew

to #98 i have nothing against you coz i dont fucking know you. so leave me the fuck alone. lemme post what i want to post and have my own opinion and you can have yours. dont be so childish and start acting retarded by calling me whatever you just called me like you know me. are you in grade shcool or something? maybe 3rd grade? you sure remind me of my nephew. hahaha. grop up will yah.

# 64 | Lola | March 16, 2006 03:48 PM

"I've been following this media crazed story since the beginning, to the point of obsession. Nothing and I mean nothing leads me to believe that Brad cheated ever in his life. Not with Juliette, not with Gwyneth, not with Robin, and not with Jen. Like you, I am happy that he has found love again. He deserves to and so does Angelina."

Ditto. He was faithful when they weren't! G.Paltrow is the one who cheated on him, and even when he felt "a connection" to Angelina, he's the one who came to Jen, and said so. C.Cox went on record as saying "he didn't have to do that, and believed he hadn't been unfaithful."

I think he and AJ just communicate differently then in their other relationships. They seem friends first "maybe because they were friends first".

jpf

How can we not see these annoying people.# 100 | pebbles in the brain | March 16, 2006 07:35 PM

Let's talk about a sad, weak position. If they're so annoying to you, why the hell are YOU here? To answer your idiotic question, I'm not looking for anything. I happen to like the BAMZ supporters on this site. And, by the way, it sounds like you need to direct your complaint of too many pictures to Jared. After all, his name is on this site.

to #98 i have nothing against you coz i dont fucking know you. so leave me the fuck alone. lemme post what i want to post and have my own opinion and you can have yours. dont be so childish and start acting retarded by calling me whatever you just called me like you know me. are you in grade school or something? maybe 3rd grade? you sure remind me of my nephew. hahaha. grow up will yah.

Doting dad to Angie 2 "orphans" make brad hotter and love.

Interesting in #50 the comments about Catherine Keener distancing herself from JA. She and Brad know each other from way back, right? I remember reading that Brad slipped in the back door of Keener's "40-Year-Old Virgin" premiere last summer when the first Brangelina sightings were all over the news. I wondered about JA and Keener making "Friends w Money" together. Keener seems a very decent sort who would be nice to anyone, but I wonder what she really thought of JA. CK seems to have intelligence and depth; she has a kid; she doesn't seem like tannign beds and yoga would be the only thing she's want to talk about.

# 74 | anonie mouse | March 16, 2006 04:33 PM

You are so funny! You really would do well writing for standup.......big market! You'd do well writing monologues....seriously.

jpf

Hello Bamz+1 lovers.Mr Pitt is looking very hot and happy.He looks pretty darn cute in that tight sweater.Love the fact that the blond hair is growing back.Looking good.

Oooh la la.....hot...hot...hot Mr. Pitt! Looking Good! Thanks Jared. Great pics!MD...eat your heart out...you couldn't look this good even in your dreams. By the way, I am also boycotting anything to do with that idiot MD. Obviously off his meds.

Hola to all the PITT-JOLIE FAMILY. That sounds so marvelous. This man is looking soooo happy and relax. Bello,Bello.

wow!! what a yummy daddy!! he looks great, happy and offcourse sexy! i don't think these are old photos. have you guys seen the new pictures of BAMZ at the airport when they're heading back to france? he was wearing the same color sweater holding Z in the same color outfit, while ange was holding Mad's hand n they both were wearing black outfits. what a matching family. soooo cute!! yup! angie is lucky and so is brad. they both deserve each oyher. and please stop calling names at each other in this "forum", guys. just leave jen alone and wishes all the best for BAMZ + 1. cheers to all BAMZ+1 fans!! brangelina rocks!!!

regarding the wedding rumors; IMO i think something's really cooking. rumors are EVERYWHERE NOW; AOL, AP,YAHOO, E, PEOPLE, RUETERS. brad's got that big smile on his face, like that cat that swallowed the canary.......we shall see........

To the Riddler,
Thanks U so very much ,I did get it!!!

Eyes, You Are Welcome
Every other day, A Day Like This
Rica Flies Alone in The City
Join her if You Can
And we'll all see the sights.

The Riddler

Picture of real Brad, sexy,peaceful and contend. far from those picture with his ex wife, well, they are cute and seems happy but something is always missing despite all those big grin... I luv the new Brad. I can't wait for their new baby .

original jfp and the truth,
so glad that there are people like you that think clearly irational and not narrow minded. i agree. bp & ja's marriage was already in trouble long before ange. i remember read somewhere that brad's co star in troy was spotted as his other woman. ange came to brad's life at his bad time of hie marriage. so, she was actually a shoulder to cry on for him. the fact that they're together now? only heaven knows. same thing about brad and jen's marriage problem. chemmestry can grow at two poeple who usually spend time together especially at the hard time. i think brangelina's love was growing from those periods of time and offcourse until now. but brad was telling the truth that ange was not behind the split of pitt and aniston. but i just don't understand those haters. they keep yelling the same issues at this kind of forum. "he cheats" "she's marriage wrecker" and calling teir kids names. how low...brangelina fans never attack jen. unlike jen's fan who attacke angie at berlin. what is that suppose to mean? lot of things happen in this world in the way that we don't like. just face it. be strong. what aniston fan did in berlin, really2 showed their level. lowest level of a human being. i mean, geez, she knew that there were kids there, and she still tried to hurt ange. even animal won't do something low like that. wish all the best for BAMZ+1. they are really the good role models - if you want to open your eyes and minds...big hug for brangelina fans!

original jfp and the truth,
so glad that there are people like you that think clearly irational and not narrow minded. i agree. bp & ja's marriage was already in trouble long before ange. i remember read somewhere that brad's co star in troy was spotted as his other woman. ange came to brad's life at his bad time of hie marriage. so, she was actually a shoulder to cry on for him. the fact that they're together now? only heaven knows. same thing about brad and jen's marriage problem. chemmestry can grow at two poeple who usually spend time together especially at the hard time. i think brangelina's love was growing from those periods of time and offcourse until now. but brad was telling the truth that ange was not behind the split of pitt and aniston. but i just don't understand those haters. they keep yelling the same issues at this kind of forum. "he cheats" "she's marriage wrecker" and calling teir kids names. how low...brangelina fans never attack jen. unlike jen's fan who attacke angie at berlin. what is that suppose to mean? lot of things happen in this world in the way that we don't like. just face it. be strong. what aniston fan did in berlin, really2 showed their level. lowest level of a human being. i mean, geez, she knew that there were kids there, and she still tried to hurt ange. even animal won't do something low like that. wish all the best for BAMZ+1. they are really the good role models - if you want to open your eyes and minds...big hug for brangelina fans!

Yeah, I think something is up too. I know we've heard the rumors before but....I just think Brad wants a wedding before the baby's born, and face it, they can't wait too much longer!

the hotest man on earth!!

I am in love with this man's chest. I've seen him bear- chested in movies and who can forget the W pictures with Angelina almost on top of him, but everytime I see pictures of him, I'm reminded how much I love it.

Brad darling. Quit playing with that tongue so much, okay? You have girls creaming their pants here! :P

To BAMZ+1 Fans. Check this out:

http://people.aol.com/people/galleries/0,19884,1173069_9,00.html

Ol' Mac D. had the gall to attempt to put down Brad and Angie. Well, after seeing this picture, I can't help laughing, because it reminded me of what a counselor told me at one time. "People who puts others down, do so to make themselves feel better or superior, because they are the ones who have issues or chips on their shoulders'. Yep, Mac probably cannot handle the fact that he is old and getting older, and can't go back to his cheating ways, because Zeta Jones can't only knock him down physically but financially. He must be so jealous of Brad's bod. LOL!!

Still the sexiest man on earth ! If I was with this guy for 7 years, I could have 5-6 kids. don't know whats jennifer thinking ?

Tita, how she could think another season of "Friends" and then a bunch of crummy movies were more important than having a family with him is beyond me. She could have done both. I think she realizes that she blew it and that's why all the "No, I really do want kids! Really! And I will have them!" stuff now.

Old M. D a has been superstar want to have some attention. the best way is to bring the hottest couple on earth now and other famous nameslike Julia and Renee, and he got what he want,, this news was broadcast all over the world. but the backlash, he became a joke. people start questioning his fidelity on his first marraige and his marrige to a woman young enough to be daughter.

TO "the truth":
'Or do you always run from the truth in life?'

Answer:
WE CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT IS ALRIGHT TO HATE, TO STEAL, TO CHEAT, AND TO LIE IF WE DRESS IT UP WITH SYMBOLS OF RESPECTABILITY, DIGNITY AND LOVE.

I have no more respect for Angelina.
Sorry Angie.
I use to respect you in every way.
But I just can't support you on this one.
I hope you do go on living your life the way you see fit.
It's none of our business.
It's not like we're ever right.

OMG he looks so HOT! I love the stubble, I think thats's so sexy! It's like he just rolled out of bed! Nice ass shots too! That man has some nice buns! Good for him for taking some time to himself. He looks better rested in these pictures.

The fact that Michael Douglas, a so called former sex addict or cheater or someone who marries a woman young enough to be his daughter, is dissing Brangelina...., uh, should tell you something!

The real lie is to stay with someone you do not love or who does not love you anymore. That helps no one. Life is too fucking short.

TO.. NIcole.....I have more respect for angelina.
Dont' be sorry. I still respect her in every way.
I will aways support her on this one. I hope she is happy. It's our happiness. Nobody's perfect.

Is there going to be a wedding?

Something good has come out of MD's comments. It got the BAMZ+1 community pissed off and even more determined to support our favorite family. Many of us (just check out the fan boards) now take the stand that if you f*ck with Brangelina then we will f*ck with you. Hate on Brangelina and we won't see your movies, buy your magazines, but we will write letters to editors to protest your comments, and in MD's case even write to the UN. If JA continues the pity me game and we all know she will then she can just do without our $$. The same goes for MD. I really think that they foolishly underestimate Brangelina's fan base.

Goin' to the villa, and they're--
Gonna get ma-a-a-ried
Heading to Lake Como, and they're--
Gonna get ma-a-a-ried;
Gee, her really loves her and they're--
Using Georgie's nice digs.
No he-li-copters allowed.

Sorry, wishful thinking.

I'm with you 125. I would have spent hours and months and days trying to make him babies. JA was a fool. She could have had it all. I know Brad really loved her and she through it all away for some drailed box off flops.

And to #^! and #100 Guess you like brad baby too huh? You don't seem to be leaving.........

dear auntie maumy....you stink...eeeewww...what's dat on ur teeth??? dentures??? onions???....eeewwww....you ugly stinky auntie maumy....go away!!!

I support whatever they want to do as far a marrage but personally I hope they wait till after the baby is born. Then Angel will be all thin again and the baby will be so cute all dressed up. Who cares about what other people say. The other 2 kids come from a not so glamorous background and it would make more sense for all of them to be the same. Rough start, but now the cutest, most famous kids ever. Brad was there for all of them when they were little and so was Angel. That's what really matters. Not some dumb piece of paper.

"Brad can endure 7 years with his very boring, self-absorbing, shallow ex-wife for 7yrs. with Angie, with a biological kid bonding the two, and despite all this bashing on them and yet they are still together. this relation will definitely last longer than 7 yrs."
# 218 | jojo | March 16, 2006 07:21 AM
I totally concur with you. Though I am realistic about the prospects of relationships as a general statistic, people who are most in sync with their likes & dislikes, lifestyles, philosophies, and values have a higher chance for success. I see Brad as an extremely patient and tolerant person who has been a longsuffering husband for years. It's easy to understand how he fell for Angie hard, who not only stimulates his sense of vision and touch, but his mind. It's obvious she's never dull. She's adventurous and takes on new skills.

So, it's been speculated that it would be Angie who would fall out of love eventually. Howard Stern made that off-the-cuff remark that she would be bored of Brad. But therein lies a misperception that Brad is the boring, white bread lover. Granted his "pretty boy" image may perpetuate that persona, but the more one reads about him, the more one realizes that he's funny, contemplative, sensitive, caring, and deep. Certainly all those qualities were the deal maker that convinced Angie that Brad was THE ONE.

Many of men had tried to court Angie, but she turned them all away. Remember she had been celibate for 2 years after Billy Bob when men were lining up at her door. This isn't a woman who just gets bored of men. She's choosy and selective of who will be the man in her life forever. She thought Billy Bob would be the one, but Billy Bob had too many insecurity issues to commit completely in the marriage. (But you won't hear Angie not take any responsibility for the failure, unlike a certain someone.)

Jenny Shimizu made some outrageous comments and predictions, but the fact was she hadn't been speaking to Angie for years. So what the hell would she know of someone constantly evolving to be the best person she can be? NOTHING!

I have to admit I had a bit of initial doubts, but I was reminded that Angie's children are the most important thing to her. For those children, I believe she would do everything possible to ensure the stability and happiness of the family they have with Brad. No relationship is without some conflicts, but it already looks certain that compromises aren't a non-negotiable tool with Brad and Angie. She's allowing him to adopt and bear his biological child (as others have noted).

# 224 | pp | March 16, 2006 07:44 AM
I echo everything you said so well.

"Once again, I am late for the party." # 230 | African Girl | March 16, 2006 08:21 AM

Not as late as I, African Girl! With such activity on this board, it is tempting to log on sooner. But damn, I need to cut back and get some personal business taken care of. Well, it's great that sensible and intelligent posters such as Human, anon, pp and others are taking up the slack.

AG, you're transcending the whole BAMZ discussions to where I'm waiting with bated breath for another of your personal stories that add a real human touch to the topic at hand.

# 234 | Desert | March 16, 2006 08:39 AM
I'm glad you have the patience and drive to take on those repetitive haters. As African Girl has noted, I've already gone to the mat arguing against the haters with their weak arguments that have no legs whatsoever. Like her, I'm resorting to ignoring their same, tired shitty attacks and I'm almost (ALMOST) losing my will. I'll probably go on a pick and choose my battles strategy.

But I'll always have your back when you need it.

#244 - Lylian, in addition to your exposing Jennifer's timeline lie but
she had categorically stated that she wasn't a rebound girl. Well, well, she certainly rebounded with the first man willing to latch onto her practically sight unseen. How long has she been going on about her and Vince being only friends even as they moved from the friends phase? And haters don't go beating that dead horse of Brad and Angie lying they were only friends mantra. They were friends who became lovers when the Brad became available after the divorce was filed.

# 246 | lylian get a life | March 16, 2006 09:37 AM
Oh the troll whose only purpose on a gossip blog is to tell people to get a life, as if the trolls had a life to begin with.

#250 - African Girl, I admit I was among those who was led to believe that Angie figuratively wore the pants in the relationship. But in my defense, I don't think there's anything wrong with a woman leading a relationship to balance out many relationships controlled by men. Then I finally caught up with all of Lainey's gossip on Brad and Angie. I learned that Brad is actually the one who makes most of the decisions. Of course, I knew Brad was no slouch in the control issues department, as I had read and heard stories about his absolute ideas of how things should be done. And there was the rumor about Angie allowing Brad to direct her in MAMS scenes (don't know if that was true) because of her conflicts with Doug (she did have disagreements but nothing lingering).

Anyhow, Lainey basically painted a picture of Brad who is business savvy and very proactive. I believe he was the one who encouraged Angie to go for endorsement deals, which lead to the St. John's partnership in September 05 (so much for any supposed scandal hurting her career!). That is one of Angie's best business moves. Her St. John ads are so much more elegant and classy than Charlize Theron's amateurish ads that are equivalent to Saturday Night Live parodies.

Because I look up to strong,independent women who are in control of their life, rather then being dictated by others what to do. # 253 | Liv | March 16, 2006 10:40 AM

That's exactly what I identify most with, as I consider myself a strong, independent woman with a rebellious streak (no my rebellion is nothing like Angie's)

BTW, welcome aboard to the BAMZ train, Liv!

African Girl, you look to be assigned a special headcase.

# 313 | Announcement from JJ | March 16, 2006 03:22 PM
That's what I've been seeing since the haters came out of their cesspool: morphing under multiple names to give the false impression haters are multiplying (yeah like dividing cancerous cells).

# 213 | asthmatic chihuahua | March 16, 2006 06:45 AM
I'm here for you tinkerbell. And I have your inhaler!!

Let's forget about my meeting her. It's not among my goals, as I have no real desire to meet any celebrity. I'm the SUPERSTAR! Just kidding there; it's a rip of Molly Shannon's catchphrase.

You're here. Why don't you and I get together for a walk in a doggie park?

No you didn't scare me. I don't get here until late. Do you need your tummy scratched?

BAMZ+1 forever and the Unrated MR & MRS Smith DVD comes out in June/2006
# 325 | crybabyAniston | March 16, 2006 07:16 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you for that great news cba!!

P.S. I might have responded to comments in the BAMZ is back thread so if you're confused of the out-of-place replies, there you go.

HEY GUYS....JARED'S BIRTHDAY IS ON MARCH 24...NEXT FRIDAY!! (HE MENTIONED IT IN THE NEW THREAD OF THE SHOW "PRISON BREAK")

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JARED AND THANKS A LOT FOR GIVING US THE BAMZ+1 VENUE!!!

BAMZ+1 ROCKS AND SO DOES JARED!!

HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY JJ....THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL BAMZ VENUE....
Thanks Cindy2...what is this about the unrated MAMS DVD?...I did not know about this?...very interesting....YEAH!...

Cindy2

# 213 | asthmatic chihuahua | March 16, 2006 06:45 AM
I'm here for you tinkerbell. And I have your inhaler!!

Let's forget about my meeting her. It's not among my goals, as I have no real desire to meet any celebrity. I'm the SUPERSTAR! Just kidding there; it's a rip of Molly Shannon's catchphrase.

You're here. Why don't you and I get together for a walk in a doggie park?

No you didn't scare me. I don't get here until late. Do you need your tummy scratched?

-------

Cindy2, can i come with you in the park and play with athmatic chihuahau?? i can toss her around and up on the sky...she would love it and bark excitedly as we catch her between us...that's a good exercise for her to get rid of her asthma, don't you think so???

let me know and we will have a date!!

Estelle, if you're asking from pure curiosity and not a statement of the anticipation about the unrated MAMS, I'll give you my take.

There was hype that Doug Liman filmed more love scenes with Brad and Angie. To squeak under the PG rating, for which markets to a bigger audience, lots of the love scenes had to be deleted.

On the commentary track with the producers, they often spoke about how certain scenes were longer. More bantering with Jane and John Smith. Longer love scenes though not necessarily explicit (so I suspect the buzz about any nude sequences was pure hype and not true).

Even for the test audiences, more love scenes were wanted over the action ones. For a lot of the fans, that's also true.

I really could do without the action scenes, which play out rather a remake of John Woo's "Hard-Boiled" for me anyway (the action scenes are more cool in Hard-Boiled). The biggest selling point for MAMS is the chemistry (whether on or off-screen) between Brad and Angie. For that I hope they seriously consider doing more films together. After all, Spencer Tracy & Katherine Hepburn and Paul Newman & Joanne Woodward did at least 9 films together. Tracy and Hepburn were the most successful with their series of films on battle of the sexes. Brad and Angie could be the modern representation of that genre.

I'll wish Jared his birthday next week.

Sure, jjoy, you can join me in anything!! You have an open offer to any get-together with me.

But you may have to ask asthmatic chihuahua if he or she is a one-person dog or party-is-on toy dog.

Ok...all Bamz +1 supporter...go to www.ONE.org, sign up for white band and go to www.UNHCR.org, sign up for AJ blue band....we can all wear these band on our wrist, showing support to BAMZ and also at the same time donating money to charity as well....better than wearing those stupid Team t-shirt...classier don't you think?...just to think all the BAMZ's fans alone can almost help us reaching the goal to end poverty....and of course, all JA's fan are welcome to wear these band too.

thanks Cindy2!

HEY ASTHMATIC CHIHUAHUA, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE PARK TO GET AN EXERCISE!! CINDY2 AND I WILL TOSS YOU AROUND, UP AND DOWN, SIDEWAYS AND IN CIRCLE...THIS IS GOOD FOR YOU TO GET RID OF YOUR ASTHMA, DO YOUR HEAR ME?? BARK IF YOU CAN, OKAY DONKEY!!

SORRY, I am shouting because asthmatic chihuahua is also deaf...you need to shout at her not just point your middle finger....sigh...is she really worth to go out in the park and play with her?? I don't think I want to... I rather talk to my bamz+1 friends...but if chihuahua pestered me to go out...then I need to do what I need to do and play with her to help her get rid of her asthma so that she can be with us for longer time....oh to be so caring of the old deaf asthmatic chihuahua!!

Hello...If you are still looking for the fanfics they are on "Brad in NYC" thread, I think! You will have to go back to February, and look for the picture of Brad alone...someone else help here. I could be wrong.
Hope they are getting married! Catherine and Michael, you stay home. Just send a very, very nice gift.

First, sorry for my #140 post from another thread. I had two threads open, going back and forth and drafting my comments in a separate notebook window. The thread should have been this one instead.
http://www.justjared.com/gossip/2006/03/brad_angelina_airport.php

# 109 | kidi | March 16, 2006 08:34 PM
From what I've read, Catherine Keener was Brad's friend first from their starring in the same film about 15 (?) years ago. Catherine was often seen out and about with Brad at basketball games. And he would often be her date for her movie premieres.

As recently as in December, he was photographed with Catherine in a dinner outing for the birthday celebration of Catherine's sister.

I think Catherine has been diplomatically civil with Jennifer on their official outings, say their "Friends with Money" promotions and the Oscar after-parties. But I would bet that Catherine is now closer to Philip Seymour Hoffman than Jennifer.

#124 - For all of Michael's cynicism about Brad and Angie, at least Brad isn't paying Angie $1 million for each year she's still with him as Michael is apparently doing with Catherine with their pre-nup.

# 135 | Maddox for President | March 17, 2006 12:19 AM
True dat. Any negativism and finger-wagging against BAMZ is only going to empower more of us who can't stand misguided and misdirected injustices and the BAMZ fans stand up more for the family - whether that be with our pocketbooks or our words.

I'll help you out, Addicted. For those interested in Rica's fanfic (where you may glean some insights to the relationship as Rica incorporates real life events and scoops), this is the thread where she is posting her stories. Bookmark it for easier access.

http://www.justjared.com/gossip/2006/02/brad_pitt_paris.php#comments

Rica, perhaps could copy all your installments and post it to a BAMZ thread that isn't so stuffed with over 500 posts. The page takes a bit of time to load (even for me with a broadband connecetion).

Here's a BAMZ thread with less than 100 posts that might be easier for everyone to open up.

http://www.justjared.com/gossip/2006/02/angelina_maddox_toy_store.php#comments

Again, just a suggestion you, which you don't have to take up.

"African Girl, you look to be assigned a special headcase."

I'm reading my own comments to make sure they came off okay (yeah, yeah, I should have done that from the start). I caught that remark as something might be misconstrued. African Girl, you know I always have your back. The special headcase is Nigerian Boy who seems to have latched onto you like a stray barnacle. He must be lost and lonely to come here for companionship.

Condy2 and African Girl...are you on Rica's mail list? A forum has been created so you might want to check your mailbox. If not contact Dolphin Girl about it as she is the moderator. It was just created so you have not missed anything.

I'm still surfing around, taking breaks from this site and coming back. Man, there's so much to get caught up in the Brad/Angie world with the other sites!

Elena, dolphingirl was kind enough to email me. But thanks for the heads-up nonetheless.

Addicted you are on the mailing list already aren't you?

I appreciate you all holding the fort, so to speak. It is too bad that some of these people do not come here to communicate or have a dialogue so they choose to ignore most of what a lot of us write.

nov.2004 readers digest issue.
aj said the man she could be with someday must be an amzing father, a compassionate , strong and independent person. bp now freer than ever.more mature, seems to be more daring.flying lessons and the recent secret trip to india.something of aj's trait finally got into him.
life is short,enjoy life, family. here's to bamz+1. all my best wishes for a happy life.

the recent secret trip to india...........this trip is false:"Hollywood star Brad Pitt flew into Rishikesh on March 7 to get high on the Ganga — spending six hours white-water"......sorry but march7 brad was in berlin at bamboo land with his family.

Something good has come out of MD's comments. It got the BAMZ+1 community pissed off and even more determined to support our favorite family. Many of us (just check out the fan boards) now take the stand that if you f*ck with Brangelina then we will f*ck with you. Hate on Brangelina and we won't see your movies, buy your magazines, but we will write letters to editors to protest your comments, and in MD's case even write to the UN. If JA continues the pity me game and we all know she will then she can just do without our $$. The same goes for MD. I really think that they foolishly underestimate Brangelina's fan base.

wow! wow! maddox fro president,
what a strong comment you make! hehehehe
i'm curios about what you're going to do with what you said. well, what ever it is, i hope it's not something unclassy like that jen fan ever did.
but, i afree, those haters JA,n MD really underestimate the power of brangelina fans. well, i'll be rite behind you, man! but please just don't do something stupid like manisaton fns, okay? our idols always handle all the rumors and trouble in a classy way, and i think we should do that too. brangelina rocks!! long live BAMZ +1, big hugs for brangelina fans!!

I never like Brad Pitt when he was with Aniston, I love Brad now. He became a real man. Never realised there was more to him than a red-carpet ready aniston arm candy.

has rica posted a new entry? if so, where? happy st. pats day!

"For that I hope they seriously consider doing more films together. After all, Spencer Tracy & Katherine Hepburn and Paul Newman & Joanne Woodward did at least 9 films together. Tracy and Hepburn were the most successful with their series of films on battle of the sexes. Brad and Angie could be the modern representation of that genre."

I agree with you Cindy2. I hope Brad and Angie don't rule out working together in the future. They're just too good together to deny us more of the same.

Today even BBC and Reuters are reporting their wedding is at Lago di Como this weekend. I've never seen BBC 'speculating' on celeb stuff--wonder if there is any credible source?!

Notable news agencies such as CNN,AP,reuters are speculating about Brad and Angie getting married this weekend and Brad's publicist making no comment!

Brad is a lucky guy. Think about, how many guys have got a chance to be with two different ladies? I cannot think of second person. I think both AJ and JA are amazing though I love AJ and think she extremly beautiful.

BTW, I'm also wondering if Rica has posted a new entry?

I agree as well with them hooking up again to do more Films, Mr. And Mrs. 2 would be worth seeing

Estelle-
Thanks for the heads up reagarding the site and wrist bands, going to check it out.

#132kidi You said it sister, slam dunk

Angelina Jolie Continues To Snub Her Father Jon Voight

Hollywood legend Jon Voight insists his heartache over being excluded from his daughter Angelina Jolie's life has now doubled since learning that she is pregnant with Brad Pitt's child and about to be married.

Voight says, "I'm always trying to reach her and send her my love but I still haven't spoken to her ... I wish somebody would help me and give her a call," Voight lamented.

Voight appears to be heartbroken over his daughters snub. "Now she has announced she is pregnant with Brad's child, I would love to be included in this exciting moment," he continued.

When Angelina sees her father on his death bed or asleep/weak in a hospital bed, then she will realize that holding onto all the grudges was the worst mistake she ever made.

#167 Francine
I agree this is a sad situation, but we don't know what their relationship is really like to put any judgement. All we can see is that Voight has repeatedly used and abused his daughter's fame for his own PR, which hurt her repeatedly and she said so. That' infamous 'my daughter is crazy' interview almost put Maddox's adoption in danger. Now she has a lot more at stake, protecting her own family. Just the fact he is complaining about it in the media shows he hasn't realized what he has done to her. Unfortunately she has to be very careful with how much she can let him in her life.

#167...did jon voight died already??? that's bad...he should talk to the media first that he is dying coz then angie and us will learn and commiserate about him dying!!

PRETTY BOY PITT LOOKS LIKE SHIT!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA
KARMA..................

Angie loves her daddy, she said so when she was receiving an award. She invited him to star alongside her in "Tomb Raider". I'm sure whatever is going on between them will be resolved the proper way, not through the media.

The reason why Jon goes to the media to lament all the time, including when he went on those interviews discussing his daughter's emotional problems, he does it because he feels the media is the only way in reaching his daughter.

Obviously, if he could speak to her in private, then he would never go to the media.

But Angelina never gives him the chance to do so. A father has a weird way of showing his love, but he greatly loves his children. Despite his mistakes. That is shown in the past photos where he'd take his kids along on the red carpet and hold them. He didnt have to do that. How many male actors do you know bring their children on the red carpet with them? Not that many. Especially ones who want to appeal to their female fans.

Fathers, even ones that live in the home, are alot more colder than Jon is. Angelina's just being stubborn.

Francine,this is a very complicated situation.The thing that bothers me is why does Mr Voight keep talking to the press?I really feel this is the wrong way to try to communicate Angelina.

Angelina should take this bit of advice:


Don't be overenthusiastic about someone you've just met. Don't jump on a potential partner too quickly. Don't scare them off with too much intensity too soon. They might feel overwhelmed or trapped. Don't drown a new man in deep disclosures.

Hey, either somebody's using my name or there are really 2 titas here.

Whatever, but last night at Extra, they said that the BAMZ+1 are on their way to Milan today. That is in Italy, and getting closer to Lake Coumo. What if the people at Extra are telling the truth, would that mean that they are really on their way to getting married in Italy?

Obviously, Angelina and Jon Voight are very emotional people who express themselves very well to the media because maybe they feel that's their way of letting out their problems, as stupid a mistake as it is.

Angelina and Jon both have the habit of expressing ALOT to the media because they feel there's nothing wrong with it. It's a mistake, but what can you do.

Like Father, like daughter.

Maybe it's just a reception in Italy. Or maybe Clooney, as well as brangelina, are pulling a fast one on us because of so much papz bothering them all the time. It's probably just a joke. Or maybe Clooney said it would be a good "prank" to the media, to throw them off and make them think it wont really happen and maybe it will.


I think Angelina should wait until after the baby is born to get married. She'd look more beautiful and she can have the baby join in on the commemoration.

They could already be married in secret, hence the matching rings (and on different fingers to throw people off). They could be married already because maybe they don't want a bastard child.

Francine,
from what we have observed the last few months it seems that AJ values her privacy . If Mr. Voight feels going all around T.V. to tell people how much he wants his daughter to speak to him is the right way to go obviously he does not know his daughter as well as he should and does not have any rights to her or her new family. These people are the most hunted people on the planet any one around them with loose lips and a hunger for attention will just be poison for them, and I think AJ REALIZES THAT and wants to protect her family.

Re: BAMZ in Milan
Did they really fly to Milan? That's where you would fly to go to Lago di Como! Can anyone just marry anywhere in Italy with no paperwork before hand? (in France you need about a month to live there) If this is true what a nice place to be married!

I wonder what Clooney's 'I am not that close to Brad' interview was all about. It was in the hight of Oscar race, maybe he was courting pro-Anistonites in the Oscar voters pool?? Well anyway he got it, so he can be friends again with Jolie-Pitt.

This constant, ridiculous, insignificant argument over BP, AJ & JA is going to go on forever and no one is going to change anyone's views! I am absolutely ashamed of myself for even coming back to this stupid site more than once. These are celebrities, figureheads, ACTORS.... they are not GOD like some of you act like. There is sooo much else going on and going wrong in this world that needs our attention at the moment, like AIDS, world hunger, George Bush, healthcare, childcare, women's rights, just to name a handful. This is absolutely the last time I will post in this lame-ass, hate-filled, going-no-where environment. I have a life, a very full one, and it is a complete waste of time to drool over celebrities and wonder what they're doing, wonder where they're going, wonder what they're eating, wonder what they're thinking, wonder what sex the baby is going-to-be, etc. My brain actually started to go numb reading all of the dumb back-n-forths between everybody!!
I hate to say it, but if this is your definition of "fun", I really feel sorry for you.
Over and outta here!!!

# 140 cindy, such a clever girl!!! you saw right through me...shame, it would have been so nice to meet you.....

take care.

This is for my fellow BAMZ+1 Fans, this article is from Time Online - UK, regarding JA: Someone needs to tell Jennifer Aniston that if she’s sick and tired of being part of “this sick, twisted Bermuda triangle” (along with Brad and Angelina), she should stop minnying on about it in interviews. Fortunately, the freezing temperatures in Aspen this week seemed to keep her quiet, while she was out for a stroll with her new squeeze, Vince Vaughn, in town for a tenth anniversary reunion of the film Swingers at the Aspen Comedy Fest. Record snowfall is making for a bumper season in Colorado, and Ski Independence (0845 3103030, www.ski-independence.co.uk) still has availability.

My god Brad has TENNIS SHOES ON. I AM GOING TO FAINT.

"People who puts others down, do so to make themselves feel better or superior, because they are the ones who have issues or chips on their shoulders'. Yep, Mac probably cannot handle the fact that he is old and getting older, and can't go back to his cheating ways, because Zeta Jones can't only knock him down physically but financially. He must be so jealous of Brad's bod.
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You meant kinda like you're doing now?

this picture was made yesterday ? this is what brad was doing yesterday? were was angie i thought that they are in italy now were are they now can somevody tell me please are they now i n italy or paris???

CINDY2: THANKS FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS. I FIND MYSELF APPLAUDING/AGREEING WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU SAY. ALSO, THANKS FOR THE RICA THREAD. I'M SO COMPUTER CHALLENGED I'M NOT SURE WHAT A THREAD IS, BUT I INTEND TO GO THERE.
JLS

JS--This is a celebrity blog--what would you expect to discuss here, Darfur?

Hey, JS. Stop bashing on Bush. What is wrong with trying to protect your own country? I hate it when people just ride on a train when they don't know where it's going just so they could be thought of as cool or au courant. Stay on topic! That's BAMZ+1 or Brad Pitt flying. Talk about ADD!

I remember someone posting a while back about how Angelina responded in an interview that her estrangement from her father was due to the fact that he was two-faced in a very hurtful way to her. He was saying glowing things about her in the media and then sent her letter telling her what he really thought of her and it wasn't what he was saying to the media. Apparently it was mean hurtful things.

Does anyone know what interview that was? I am interested in this because I don't think anyone should rip on her because she doesn't want her dad in her life. Sometimes relationships are toxic and you can't change another person so it can just be a bad situation.

Dolphingirl, actually it was the other way around. At the time she was adopting Mad, her father was quoted as telling the reporter that Angelina was a mess and that she really needed to get help etc. She almost lost Mad.... But on top of his abandonment while she was growing up, her father's televised interview was a total betrayal.

Elena and all the other Jon Voight haters, you are incorrect! I saw all the interviews that Jon Voight did that year after BillyBob left Angelina. He was CRYING when discussing Angelina. He was afraid that she would do something drastic like kill herself, since she played with knives, after BillyBob left her. You are not correct at all when describing what he said during those interviews. What do you expect, when she refuses to speak with him? If he can't get thru to her, then how else will he?? She makes it seem it's all his fault and it's not! She did the same thing with Jennifer Aniston! She made it seem all Jen's fault!

Dolphin, I am in a very toxic relationship with my father. Which is why I moved away from him. But I would never treat my father the way Angelina is treating hers.

Tita, Bush spent over $400 million of our money. And Saddam is sitting in his cell thinking, "Hahaha....., I still WON! Bush spent his people's money over me?? This is too good to be true! And look at their continued economic downfall from that! Even two third world countries, India and China, are cashing in on this and doing better than America! LOLOL..... What an IDIOT!"

Diana sent me the scans of the August 7, 2003 issue of Rolling Stone magazine that are up on Soulie Jolie. The article does indeed quote AJ regarding the estrangment from her father stemming from the fact that he wrote to her to let her know that is feelings regarding her were negative and at the same time he was telling the press just the opposite. Which is two-faced.

I know a lot of people think you should take whatever kind of abuse a parent dishes out to you. That's fine. That's your life. But I wouldn't do it and I don't. No one has the right to treat you bad unless you let them.

Angie best friend is her mother. There is no need for Jon Voight to use the media to communicate with his daughter. All he has to do is to write a letter and ask her mother to give it to her.

Jon Voight caused a lot of pain for not only her mother but for Angie and her brother. He was pretty much absent while she was growing up.

Just because Angie does not have a relationship with her father does not mean that she has not forgiven him. Forgiveness is not the same as trust. One forgives because it is necessary for the healing process to begin. But that does not mean you have to trust the person who hurt you. Trust is like a credit rating. It is far easier not to loose it than it is to earn it back. Jon has to earn her trust again. I have read in several different articles, that Brad is encouraging her to open her life up to her father again.

Jon is reaping what he has sown. He made no effort to have a relationship with his children while they were growing up.... Only Angelina can judge the honesty of Jon's agenda. Perhaps that is why she keeps him at arm's length...to protect her children from emotional dissapointment from a grandfather who may hurt them.

Hello Bamz family,Gabriella I also saw the interview with John Voight.I think you are letting your dislike foe Angelina cloud your judgement.John Voight was a lousy father,also he has a big mouth.If he really wants to communicate with her so bad why doesn't he try talking with her mother,writing a letter etc.He shouldn't be on tv telling the whole world.We do not know what went down so it is not fair to judge the situation.Why are you bringing Jen into this?Angelina has never blamed Jen for anything.Jen is grown woman who made her own choices reguarding her marriage.

I meant for not foe.

Elena #196 Excellent point regarding trust.

What ashtmatic chihuauhua, you're leaving me already? Pfftt, I would have expected that from Paris, but not Tinkerbell! You didn't like the idea of the doggie park or jjoy's plan to rough-house you? Well, I'm sure jjoy and I can just dress you up in doggie clothes and paint your toe nails instead. Oh well, my loss!

As much as it is sad when there is family dysfunction or alienation, I can't help but support Angie's decision to cut her father out. When Angie was in the process of adopting Maddox, Jon backstabbed her in two ways. First, he leaked that she was adopting when Angie was keeping it on the down low. Hush, hush, but no, Jon couldn't help flapping his mouth about his new grandson.

Then the unforgivable breach was when he started besmirching Angie publicly. Here are his exact words as reported on Entertainment Weekly:

He said he was ''brokenhearted...because I've been trying to reach my daughter and get her help, and I have failed and I'm sorry. Really I haven't come forward and addressed the serious mental problems she has spoken about so candidly to the press over the years, but I've tried behind the scenes in every way.''

As if that weren't enough, he continues with trashing the relationship she ever had with Billy Bob:

''I never had the feeling that they were going to make it because of both of their serious problems, and they've both been very public about them, so I never really held out any hope.''

In contrast, read Angie's tactful statement in response:

''I don't want to make public the reasons for my bad relationship with my father. I will only say that, like every child, [brother] Jamie and I would have loved to have had a warm and loving relationship with our dad. After all these years, I have determined that it is not healthy for me to be around my father, especially now that I am responsible for my own child.''

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,333476_7_0_,00.html

I don't know about others, but my personal motto is to keep family business and especially problems IN the family. I never talk about anything troubles or trying issues to people outside of the family, including close friends. But I know my standards of privacy is no doubt higher than most.

Regardless, Jon was out of line to even intimate that Angie was a headcase - whether there was any truth in it or not. His statements were outright slanderous and malicious, which could have risked the approval of her adoption. Jon was self-serving and simply interested only of his own needs. Even when he's a celebrity, there are better channels to reach out to his daughter than to the media. You get friends and other family members to relay messages and mediate. The media can't do jack for family dissension.

Since then, Angie hasn't been defamatory about Jon. She simply said to the effect that she doesn't hate her father but she doesn't want to waste energy in an unhealthy relationship, which looks to be have created by Jon himself.

It's hard to really be in other people's shoes cause we can pretend how idealistic we could be. What Jon did was as damaging to familial relationship outside of physical or sexual abuse. But verbal and emotional abuse is right up there.

Nevertheless, I do hope they can eventually work it out and reconcile. But I wouldn't criticize Angie should she feel that Jon hasn't changed enough. For that, I think he should begin with a public apology for what he did and said to her. Where's that ownership by him?

Here are further comments Angie has made on the situation between her and her father in a November 2004, Reader's Digest interview:

I didn't have a good relationship with my father. Growning up, I saw my mother very stressed, often, and crying a lot. I didn't want that for my son. I believe the only people that should be around a child and raising a child are people who absolutely, 100 percent love that child.

RD: Your father said recently that he wants to reconcile and repair the damage he's done. Are you interested?
AJ: No, no. I think it's not something you tell the press; I think it's something you do in your private life. Fortunately, I got to a place in my life where I realized that, no matter what he said, I was a good person, and a good friend, and I am a good person, and I am a good mother. And because I'm an adoptive mother, I don't see blood as family. I see time and love-you earn it. You can't just call yourself a father.

I don't hate my father. I don't blame him for divorcing my mother, or having affairs. He went off path. I don't respect the way he treated my family as I was growing up. But we survived, and we're a good family. I just don't want to dedicate one more tear, or watch my mother cry one more time.

I'll post the full article in a following message.

Reader's Digest, November 2004

Angelina Jolie lives in two worlds: Hollywood, where she makes movies and stays in five-star hotels, and the refugee camps of Africa and Asia, where she works with the UN, bringing hope to the homeless. She feels most alive, most herself, she says, working with the people who've endured great losses yet still feel grateful for life.

At 24, Jolie won an Oscar for playing a sociopath in Girl, Interrupted but found little satifaction in stardom or the wealth that came with it. The daughter of actor John Voight and actress Marcheline Bertrand, she had already seen the downside of celebrity-her parents divorced when Jolie was a toddler. And she now says the exploits of her wild-child youth were mostly an attempt to fill an emptiness she felt inside. After she finished shooting Lara Croft: Tomb Raider, Jolie volunteered to be a UN ambassador and returned to Cambodia to visit refugee camps. She found a calling, and realized that her fame and money could be used to accomplish a world of good.

Now the mother of son Maddox, 3, whom she adopted in Cambodia, Angelina Jolie hopes to adopt more children. We caught up with her in Beverly Hills on a day away from the set. She talked to us about her role as the mother of Alexander the Great (played by Colin Farrell) in her new movie, Alexander, her passion for helping the dispossessed, and her longing for a partner with whom she might share it all.

RD: Did you always want children?
AJ: I always felt that I wasn't going to be a mother. I knew that to be a parent, nothing about me could be self destructive, or unsure day to day. I never thought I could be that balanced.

RD: So your son helped you find the balance?
AJ: He did calm me down, and I have a sense of peace. It made me tougher, because I changed my life overnight, to make our life better. It's the greatest thing that ever happened in my life, my son.

RD: You first saw Maddox when you went to Cambodia for the UN. Did he pick you, or did you pick him?
AJ: I think it was mutual. I had never held a baby in my life. I was one of those women-people would say, "Do you want to hold my baby?" and I was like "No..."

There were about 14 kids in the orphanage, and he was the last child I saw. They put him in my arms, and he was still asleep. Then they put him in a bath, and he stayed asleep. Then I sat with him and he opened his eyes and just stared at me for the longest time. Then he smiled.

RD: How old was he?
AJ: Three months when I met him, seven months when he came home.

RD: Was it a big adjustment?
AJ: I felt like I needed to earn being a mother, so in some ways I made it overly difficult. In our house, no one helped me. I'd shower while Maddox was in a bouncy thing, or try to brush my teeth with him attached to me. A few times, I came down in a blanket without a shirt on, because I couldn't figure out how to do it while I was holding him.

RD: Your marriage to Billy Bob Thornton was breaking up around then.
AJ: Yes, it was a difficult time for my marriage, but it was the happiest time in my life as a woman.

RD: I read that Billy Bob said about you, "I was afraid of her. She was too beautiful, too smart. She had too much integrity. I felt small next to her." Are men afraid of you?
AJ: I'm not very settled. The positive side of that is I'm on fire all the time, to try anything. The negative side is there isn't a lot of time for me to sit and watch a movie and hold hands. I tend to not be inside my relationships. I tend to be more focused on the world. It takes a certain kind of man to love those things.

RD: Does a child need a father?
AJ: I have men in my life. I have a brother. So Maddox will have male teachers. I was raised without a father.

RD: But you knew who your father was. You saw him sometimes.
AJ: Yeah, but I don't necessarily think that's better. I didn't have a good relationship with my father. Growning up, I saw my mother very stressed, often, and crying a lot. I didn't want that for my son. I believe the only people that should be around a child and raising a child are people who absolutely, 100 percent love that child.

RD: Your father said recently that he wants to reconcile and repair the damage he's done. Are you interested?
AJ: No, no. I think it's not something you tell the press; I think it's something you do in your private life. Fortunately, I got to a place in my life where I realized that, no matter what he said, I was a good person, and a good friend, and I am a good person, and I am a good mother. And because I'm an adoptive mother, I don't see blood as family. I see time and love-you earn it. You can't just call yourself a father.

I don't hate my father. I don't blame him for divorcing my mother, or having affairs. He went off path. I don't respect the way he treated my family as I was growing up. But we survived, and we're a good family. I just don't want to dedicate one more tear, or watch my mother cry one more time.

RD: Your son has gone from being an orphan in a poor village to the adored son of a movie star. You know what the challenges are of being a movie star's child. How are you going to deal with that?
AJ: He will occassionally be a part of Hollywood, and visit me on the set. But he will know what the real world is, and how much his mother cares about that. He travels with me on all my UN trips. He's already got two passports-his first one's full.

RD: Do you want to adopt again?
AJ: I have a dream of having children from around the world and letting them grow up together. I'm going to see how I handle two or three, because I'm a single mother, and it's not easy. I'd love to have eight, but I don't know if I could.

RD: Tell us about your work in the refugee camps, and your work with the UN.
AJ: It wasn't intentional. I went to Cambodia for Tomb Raider, and it dawned on me how much I didn't know, that there was a country where I couldn't walk in certain areas because it was riddled with land mines. Then I learned that my own country hadn't signed a treaty to ban land mines. I traveled more and began reading. I read about the UNHCR-United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. You realize there were refugees since the dawn of time. Nearly 20 million people are under the care of the UNHCR. I thought, how is that possible?

RD: You've started foundations...
AJ: I have the Maddox Relief Project, which deals with Cambodia and my Jolie Foundation, which helps children in orphanages. Then there's an animal orphanage in Namibia I work with.

RD: Do you work in places in the United States that have needs?
AJ: I 'm part Native American-Iroquois Indian on my mother's side, I have an organization called the All Tribes Foundation that's been trying to do a lot with Pine Ridge reservation, working through the elders. And I sponsor a poster contest every year in grade schools. Students draw pictures for Refugees Day in Washington. To get thousands of children thinking about that issue is great. If there's a kid in school that's from another country, instead of making fun, maybe they'll be more open to where he came from, or what he fought through.

RD: Do you get puzzled stares in Hollywood for your involvement in this work?
AJ: I'll get, " What are you reading?" I'll say, "Oh, something about Burma." And they'll say something like." That's great. Are you going on vacation?" There are a lot of good people, too, and I'd like to find a way they could help. I had a fund-raiser at my house for [banning] land mines a few years ago. There were 40 people and great speakers. I think the money raised by all those people, who had quite a lot of money, was maybe twice what I paid to put the event together. So if the party was $2,000, it raised $4,000. I know the money I have have. I know what those people have. I was kind of disheartened that there was not as much generosity. So I haven't had another fund-raiser. I'd rather just give it from my own pocket.

RD: Does being a celebrity give you a platform?
AJ: It allows me to do certain things. If I do a movie like Tomb Raider, with a big audience, it probably helps me. If I decide to go visit a school in the middle of Kenya, or Russia, the kids will be excited. That's better than having an Oscar.

I went through a depression when I was first famous, because what was I famous for? I didn't do anything great. And I didn't discover anything wonderful.

When I'm in a refugee camp, my spirit feels better there than anywhere else in the world, because I am surrounded by such truth, and family. I feel so connected to just simply being a human being. In these countries, they don't know who I am. I am useful as a woman who's willing to spend a day in the dirt. Maybe it was important for me to know that.

RD: Tell us about your new movie, Alexander. What drew you to the character you play?
AJ: She's a very interesting mother. She won't allow Alexander to grow up with any fear. She wants him to be extremely hard and brutal; she encourages violence.It was at a time in history when, if he wasn't strong in battle, he could get killed. Today, we can raise our sons to do what they love, even if they're not great at it. She had to raise a son for greatness, because that was how he was going to survive.

RD: You had a pretty rough youth.
AJ: Like everybody, I went through a teen stage, mine probably in some ways worse than others.

RD: You once had an interest in cutting yourself, of drawing your own blood.
AJ: I think it's hard for average people to understand things like that. I forever wanted to feel more alive. I did turn to the cutting, and the blood, because then your heart's pumping, and you're bleeding. You're alive.

RD: Was there a time when you didn't want to live?
AJ: Absolutely. I felt very empty inside. I felt like nothing mattered to me. I still have a long way to go in figuring out who I am, but I know I can be of use to others. I can help give a voice to people who aren't as able to speak for themselves. I can be a mom-and I know what my son's life would be like if I didn't make that choice. I feel useful in my life.

RD: Did the refugee camps change your perspective?
AJ: Oh, God, yeah. I really had no idea of the imbalance of the world, and how fortunate I was. My neighbors in Cambodia are land mine victims, and they never complain about anything. They play music; they smile; they raise their kids. They all work together. You put them next to somebody who's stuck on the freeway on his way to his big office, and it puts the world in a totally different perspective.

RD: Is there anything you haven't done that you'd like to do?
AJ: I'm sure I will live a life of great adventure. I will help where I can. The one thing I am not sure of is if I will do it alone. I would like to believe that I'm going to share my life with somebody, one day. There's something bittersweet when you wake up in the middle of the night, or something amazing happens- your son walks for the first time-and you don't have that other person who's going to remember that forever with you. That's kind of the one sadness. But if I only get one great love in my life, him being my son, I'll take him.

RD: And if you get another love, what will he be like?
AJ: The kind of man I could be with one day would have to be an amazing father, compassionate, strong, independent individual. I want somebody who demands I be better than what I am today. I don't have that with anyone in my life except my son. My son somehow thinks I can do everything.

I can't believe how much hatred of Angelina has clouded the judgement of her critics. What exactly does Angelina not speaking to her father has to do with Jennifer Anniston? And since you brought it up, both Jennifer and Angelina were raised by their mothers, the difference is that till today, Angelina's mom is her best friend and jennifer is only now trying to reconnect with her mother. Because her dad was a soap star and had the money, so forget her mom.
Dolphin, I read the rolling stone article, and the good thing is she said she feels sorry for him, because he was not there for them as a father and yet he believes he knows what is best for her, her mother and brother. To think that he almost compromised the events that turned Angie's life around is almost hard to imagine. So, Gabrielle and Co, before you judge somebody else's life, find out the truth first.
Voight had the audacity to call UN, and tell them to cancel her trip to Sierra Leone, this was after she got him the job to play her father in the Lara Croft movie, and going on gossip shows to tell the world his daughter has mental problem thereby almost sabotaging her adoption of Maddox, yeah..........that is really a way to reach her. She probably would have let it slide, but he announces the news of her adopting to the world even though she wanted to keep it quiet until the visa processing was complete. And seeing how much working with the UN and adopting Maddox helped her grow and evolve, maybe it is a good thing she keeps him at arm's. I think it was the same interview that she said it was as if the men in her life did not want her to grow. They did not want her to go, but they never offered to go with her. Fast forward 2 years, she has a man who is not only willing to let her grow, but is offering to go with her. I am a cynic, but something tells me Brad and Angelina will make it. Nobody believed she will do the UN job for more than a year, she has done it for 5years and counting.

I double-checked the thread link I posted and realized I posted the wrong link. Here is the correct link where Rica is posting her fanfic installments.

http://www.justjared.com/gossip/2006/02/brad_pitt_nyc.php#comments

#180 - Be Sane: "I wonder what Clooney's 'I am not that close to Brad' interview was all about."

That statement by George also puzzled me. How long have they been friends of whatever intimacy and joking about each other in the public? Since Ocean's Eleven, which was in 2001. That's over 4 years of frienship and teasing without George clarifying they were only showbusiness friends and not close friends. I remember when George was interviewed on Oprah, Brad did a brief interview as a special video clip to surprise George. All their interactions certainly gave the impression they were good friends, even if Brad wasn't among George's homies whom he would play regularly basketball or ride their motorcycles.

Nevertheless, why did he feel he had to set the record straight on the extent of their friendship when he had been playing along the marriage rumors at his house? Was he tired of speaking for Brad on the marriage rumors, as if he would be Brad's best man?

Somehow it did give the faint impression (perhaps a bit alarmist on my part) that he was distancing himself a bit from Brad. Maybe others have a better insight.

#181 - JS
What you failed to accomplish is to relate and bond with the many diverse people from around the world who visit this forum. That alone is a productive achievement in our human existence. We are foremost social creatures that gravitate to social relationships. There's nothing abnormal or shameful about that activity.

Don't like, then please don't come back. Or else you'll just be another line of the pretentious blow hards who delude themselves they are superior than us with their pompous arrogance.

#183 - Alexanderina: "Someone needs to tell Jennifer Aniston that if she’s sick and tired of being part of “this sick, twisted Bermuda triangle” (along with Brad and Angelina), she should stop minnying on about it in interviews."

Thank you for that excerpt, Alexandria. It's just another of the growing fatigue we all have for Jennifer. She has moved into media overexposure after she continued her breakup circuit well after the Vanity Fair interview.

# 187 | JLS | March 17, 2006 03:15 PM
Thanks! I like reading a variety of comments. Of course I favor the pro-BAMZ ones as they typically have sensibility, logic and common sense without the aggravating self-righteous moralizing that taints the haters' comments. But most especially, invariably, the pro-BAMZ comments are infused with personal stories and anecdotes (yes, I'm talking about you, African Girl, Elena, lylian and others!) that make it as if we're friends just shooting the breeze. I find that an appealing attraction to this site.

Anyway, on the term of "thread," it's a reference to the individual topic/subject/discussion with the collection of messages. For instance, the string of messages in this discussion is a thread.

#203 - Mary,

Good post and very enlightening of the full circumstances of the situation.

thanks cindy2...she's really an amazing woman..she really evolved and become a better person that's why i admire her a lot...whatever haters say about her they can never dispute that not only she is beautiful physically but also emotionally and spiritually...about stealing husband and all her past that the haters keep repeating and reasons for condemning angie are full of bs…angie's haters live in the past and that’s where they will stay and like the ad Woulda Coulda Shoulda …they will be all left behind with nothing but misery and hopelessness!!.

Cindy2, you said it so much better and more eloquently than I could, and thanks for posting the interview. Now that is a girl that gives interesting interview and has something to say beside her past marriage.

Hatred of Jolie hasn't clouded my judgment. I see her clearly for what she is- a mentally unstable famewhore who screws married men. She uses her kids for publicity, no question about it, and she is just filthy dirty. Nothing about her has changed one bit, except that she now has been gagged for a while. I'm really sorry for all you sad BAMZ fanatics that you don't have someone more dignified to appreciate. Brad is now wrecked and skanky from Angelina's presence in his life. I hope Angelina gets the psychiatric help she needs before she destroys the lives of those kids any further. I feel bad for Brad's family. Just wait until that mental midget starts doing more interviews.

Thank you to you both, jjoy and Mary.

One more thing I would like to stress about Angie's position with her dad is that it is clear the people most important to her are her children (along with her mother and brother). She would not dare to harm their growth as individuals or for lack of a better phrase, fuck them up, as her father did to them. Why would anybody expose their children to someone with such toxicity as her father? She and her children would have to wear biohazard gear just to be around him.

To be fair, I like that he has been more reticient in his public statements without going further than saying he loves his daughter and supports her. But he still needs to keep the strain between him and Angie private. In other words, he needs to just shut up, just as Jennifer needs to find a new topic than her breakup.

#206 - jjoy,

I've always given people a lot of slack and leeway in their personal indiscretions and transgressions, as long as what they do don't physically or emotionally hurt others by direct intentions. I would get along with people who would rub others the wrong way. While others would like to be cliquish and ridicule those who didn't belong to their cliques, I never paid any attention to cliquish bondings. I would befriend those who didn't "fit in."

No matter how much a person's habits and personality may clash with my own (I'm fairly straight-laced having never smoked, drank or did any drugs), I respect genuine people who speak their minds and who have the conviction to live on their own terms.

Because of that, I have absolutely no problem with Angie's past and certainly find nothing wrong with her present. She has more heart than the goody-goody two shoes who shine their shoes. Moral hypocrites annoy me more.

There above #208 is the moral hypocrite I speak of.

i recently came across this clip of angie, i don't know how old it is, but because of the bangs i'd say circa "taking lives," anyway i was truly moved by her emotions, and almost got a little weepy myself, its about her experience w/ refugees in Sierra Leone (Sp?) so BAMZ fans check the link out, i think you'll appreciate it, while haters can just remain biased and hostile.

http://video.msn.com/v/us/dw.htm?m=us&p=truveo&g=dba12fa0-cf79-490a-9504-a9d534888395

# 210 | cindy2

Indeed...the moral hypocrite!!

If after reading AJ's interviews and you still think she is not sincere in her works, then you are very twisted person. Whenever I listen or read AJ inerviews I can see what kind of person she is.
You got to admire that even though AJ had difficult and very odd growing up period, now she is tring very hard to be a better person and find purpose in life.

#204 Cindy2

Regarding Clooney .... I think he made that statement because every interview he gave, all the interviewers made it seem as if he had itimate details about Brad & Angelina. He just wanted to clarify that although he and Brad were friends, they weren't like Holly & Angie

So he wasn't distancing himself from Brad, but he was just tired of being asked about Brad's personal life (especially regarding them getting married

Just out of Italy this am. 3/18
Pitt and Jolie set for wedding on Lake Como

NICK PISA

HOLLYWOOD stars Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are due to marry this morning in a ceremony on Lake Como, the Italian press reported yesterday.

The pair have been at the centre of matrimonial rumours for several months and are said to have set their hearts on a service aboard a boat on the lake.

The couple's parents are not due to attend, but the guests are expected to include the actor George Clooney.

He has a villa nearby, at Laglio, and the couple are expected to stay there ahead of the service, which will be followed by a reception at the nearby luxury five-star Villa D'Este hotel.

Yesterday, builders were working on Clooney's home - called Villa Oleandra - where they were raising the walls around the estate.

According to Italian news reports, the ceremony will take place on Lake Como, which has a spectacular backdrop of snow-capped mountains and hills.

The venue was chosen to hamper the hundreds of paparazzi photographers who are predicted to flood into the area for the event.

Extra police have also been drafted in to control the crowds of sightseers who are expected to gather at the water's edge to catch a glimpse of the couple.

One report said the wedding would take place on one of the traditional Lake Como boats, called a Lucia.

Simona Saladini, the town's mayor, said she had recently taken delivery of a new Lucia and admitted that, although she had not been contacted, she could carry out a service if asked.

"The whole town is awash with rumours that they are supposed to be getting married here and it would be great if they did," she said.

Jolie and Pitt are expecting their first child.

Related topic

Angelina Jolie
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=574
This article: http://news.scotsman.com/entertainment.cfm?id=427842006

Brad and Angelina are being wrongly and cruelly villifed, hated,
insulted, and criticized because of all of these lies, rumors,
accusations, and gossip that were originally started by the
tabloids. This nastiness all stemmed from one false rumor
that would spawn a thousand other false rumors and lies.
The corrupt media would use this false rumor to misportray
Brad's divorce...and to misportray Brad & Angelina's relationship.
They are twisting everything about Brad Pitt into a scandal when
nothing scandalous occurred. They are circulating these horrible
lies and rumors all around the world through every media outlet:
magazines, newspapers, television, and internet...as if it were
the truth. The media is profitting from this: it has caused
higher sales, higher ratings, and higher reactions from the
public...because people are being manipulated by it...then
they can generate more lies..more people respond to it...it
is a sick cycle that has gone completely out of control and
out of line. But is making millions of dollars for profit and gain. This exploitation is injust. I thank the BAMZ supporters (You all know who you are) for caring about combating massive cruelty
and injustice. What is happening to Brad and Angelina is
cruel and unfair..Keep pointing out the reality of the situation and
giving a better insight into the truth with facts and valid resources. Brad and Angelina
are being hated over something that is NOT even true. Their children are attacked in some of the most cruel ways. And these are little children.

To the closed minded, coldhearted, and spiteful Jen
fans that just completely disregard and ignore every rational
argument made, and then lash out . Get your facts straight.Post your hateful commentary elsewhere. There are plenty of
other places where you can vent your unfounded hate. If you
dislike what we say, then don't bother posting on A BP/ANGIE page.

cindy, do you copy, your ugly muppet here, (hi, jjoy!) paris can wait...

here's something for you...although i got a feeling that you know all this already ;)

samlot district of battambang province is the most war-torn area of cambodia. its population consists entirely of some 45,000 returnees and IDPs who lived under the rule of the khmer rouge for nearly 30 years, only to be driven from their homes by fighting after the coup d’etat of '97. samlot has the highest percentage of landmine victims and other destitute families in cambodia.

the j. foundation had this rehabilitation of vulnerable samlot returnees -project there to administer to the physical and psychological needs of the poor and increase their level of independence by strengthening family economy and income status.

...aaand there is this lush and undulating wildlife refuge in battambang:

no plans to turn the area into tourist site - $5mil is being spent simply keeping the area as it is.

there is a staff of rangers und border police to stop chopping the trees down, protecting the rare wildlife and preventing farmers from encroaching on the land.

and, no "hollywood mansion" there, but a couple of schools for local kids, a centre for the disabled and ranger's station (for beer).

mines are everywhere!

take a look:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3646/004oa.jpg

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2052/00b8pv.jpg

such a place, but so deadly too!

To CINDY#2. and all the ones like her. You are odd, very odd. You are wasting your life away fantasizng about every move of this family. Like Brad said himself, 'You cant believe everything thing you read, he hates people like you. He also stated how cruel the media has been to Jennifer Aniston. He said he'd like to slap the shit out of people who slam Jennifer and invade his life......but anyway....cindy2 get a life girlfriend, you need it. Maybe if I try real hard I can get Brad's # 4 you. You talk (type) way to much!!! By the way it's on NBC national news Brad and Angie may be getting married. Im HAPPY FOR THEM, although I can't understand all these hateful comments. Good bye this is MY ONE AND ONLY POST. Thank you, very much !

AMEN SISTER

Cindy2 -Thanks for posting that Reader's Digest interview. I heard parts of it before, but not the whole thing.
I agree with Mary post #203. Base on this interview, one can not help that Angelina has found the right person, and for Brad the same thing. As I have said in the past, it's got to be very obvious to Brad that this is the woman who he wants to be the mother of his children. Someone who truly love children and a lot of them! Not just one or 2 . If they can make this a lifetime commitment, my gut feel the children they raise will be well educated, strong, and certainly follow the footsteps of their parents - to be of service to others either in politics or world organizations such as the UN. Wishing them the best!

#218 don't say bad things about..
#219-men = Most of us are not saying anything that has not been printed or that is untrue. Welcome to the world, sometimes the truth does hurt. But accepting it also sets you free. . You type too much for someone with nothing to say. You wish you had the intelligence . wisdom and definitely Cindy2 typing and research skills. Have you ever heard of "copy and paste" for example. If you do not want to come across to others as an ignorant and malicious individual learn to keep quiet. I for one didn't even bother to read past the first few lines of your post as it was simply a waste of good space so I am glad to hear you won't be posting again.
CINDY2# I know that I speak for all the adults on this site, including jj ... I look forward to hearing from you as you bring bring information, insight, wisdom , humor, intelligence and so much CLASS to this site. If #218 had an adults level reading comprehension she would have known that what you write comes from having a life and living it to the fullest. So again THANK YOU for all your share with us here on Jared. Your contributions raise the bar on the quality of this site and make it stand out from the others and why I return. And since I could not have said this any better, I quote you:

"What you failed to accomplish is to relate and bond with the many diverse people from around the world who visit this forum. That alone is a productive achievement in our human existence. We are foremost social creatures that gravitate to social relationships. There's nothing abnormal or shameful about that activity.
Don't like, then please don't come back. Or else you'll just be another line of the pretentious blow hards who delude themselves they are superior than us with their pompous arrogance."

^CINDY2 - THANK YOU .)

research source used to support comments on this site: gossip outlets

ELENA...THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT 221... YOU ARE IGNORANT AND QUITE STUPID YOURSELF

ha & hahaha. Great name!!! You really are a joke. Thanks for the chuckle.

Michael Douglas are you having another dementia attack? your point? That you are mentally challenged? Do the nurses at the mental hospital know you haven't been taking your med's ? I guess now that everyone has caller id, all these learning impaired children are making malicious posts on the internet... Go watch cartoons that are more suitable for your intelligence. hahaha. (Iguess that is what you hear when people look at you so you think that is your name?)

No matter what you say about JA she will ALWAYS have HAD BP first!!! AJ is taking the sloopy seconds of JA!! BP looked 100x's cuter with JA than AJ. Now he looks like the grim reaper...tired, pale, unhappy...scruffy and just plain YUCK!!! He stopped caring about his looks and now it is all down hill for him. Lets face it... what the hell did he bring to the table other than his looks and his , just get on screen and act? Not to hard to remember lines huh? They teach dogs a lot harder things in life. AJ is way to hot for him and she will tire quickly. Remember BP said he was not meant to be with one women forever.. oh right that just applied to JA... yeah right!!! AJ is YOUNG CAREFREE and wild... this will never last.. BP is TOO OLD and will never be able to keep up.
BP is an old man going through a midlife crisis. Poor AJ!!!!

#226 you are the smartest one on this board You know the facts buddy !! Give me five slap gr8 comment

Wow, thought I was going to get ripped a new one. Glad you liked it #227. What are your feelings on the subject?

#226 Re Angie having JA's seconds
Well.....JA had GP seconds who had JL seconds,I don't know who he was with before Juliette Lewis who he lived with for 3 yrs I believe,and let's not forget the first famous woman he hooked up with was Robin Givens.

Hi guys,
Top of the morning to Ya! (Have always wanted to say that....don't know why). Cindy2, thanks for posting the readers digest. I have to say, you are really good with research. Maybe if I had your skills I'd have finished my book a long time ago. Lucky you.

Regarding Clooney, I also think he was trying to avoid all the personal questions. Besides, I don't think Clooney gives a rat's ass (pardon my french) what anyone thinks of him.

About Jon Voight, I don't know what to make of this man. I'd like to believe he loves his daughter but his actions don't show it. I do feel sorry for him because he is going to miss out in one of the greatest experiences in life - Seeing his grandchildren grow (of course this is according to my mother who is nutso over her granchildren). The romantic in me wants father and daughter to work it out, have family barbecues with the other sets of grandmama and grandpapa (The Pitts) and all live hapilly ever after. Then realist in me figures if having her father in her life is going to be detriment to her family, then by all means, exchange postcards once a year. Dolphingirl said it best " know a lot of people think you should take whatever kind of abuse a parent dishes out to you. That's fine. That's your life. But I wouldn't do it and I don't. No one has the right to treat you bad unless you let them"

The fact tha Jon Voight has been brought into the mix, shows me how far reaching people would go to "Show what a Bad, Bad, horrid, selfish, the daughter of satan" Angelina Jolie is. People we get it, you don't like her. Fine, just move along. What I find even more amusing is that when the bring up something, like the father situation in this case, and someone shows the flaws in their argument, the way Elena, The real Lou, nnt, Mary and Cindy2 just did, these people resort to personal attacks (#218 and #219). My goodness, it is just so ridiculous. #218, you saay it is your last post and yet you come back again and again, I won't be surprised if you do come back after this. I have no issue with you coming back, afterall it is a free world, I am just showing you that you are no better than "we odd, overy odd people"

Keeping it Real....what can I say, just continuing doing just that.

Whatamess...very befitting name (Sometimes the response just writes itself)

Gabrielle you Wrote "She makes it seem it's all his fault and it's not! She did the same thing with Jennifer Aniston! She made it seem all Jen's fault!" Please tell me how she accomplished this task? What did she do? How did She do it? When did she do it? if you can answer these questions....my God, you are blaming another person for a grown woman's actions? How does that work? Let me guess, She used her super mind control powers on Ms. Aniston to give contradicting interviews right? This is what you are saying, so now that the backlash has begun, The evil Ms. Jolie seats back in her chair, rubbing her hands together and going "excellent, now everyone will like me". Now I just have to laugh because after putting a scenecrio to your lofy declaration, which is the only way I can make sense of your statement, it sounds even sillier. Please take a page out of Keeping it Real's book and KEEP IT REAL!!!

On a last note, to you all who have taken it upon yourselves to be Judge and Jury, I just want to say "c'est la poule qui chante qui a fait l'aef." I will try to translate it without losing the depth of it - Look within yourselves before looking outward . What makes you come on so strongly, so loudly about the "sins" of others? Is it guilt on your own part?

You missed my whole point!! Looking at BP now after all those women... he looks LIKE CRAP. His appeal was his looks.. and now they are gone, what does he have?? Money..a lot of people have that, AJ has that!! AJ will tire of an old man trying to keep up with her and the kids. Mark my words. LOOK at AJ she looks great and BP looks terrible. Tell me I am wrong?? I think he finaly found a women he can never look like... or be like... BP is just OLD and tired. He looks lost with her... she will run circles around him.

African Girl... WTF. Think about this much? Sure, I won't lie, I come her to look at pictures sometimes, than I read the latest posts but you... you take it to a unhealthy level. You went through everyones comments and responded. Who the hell are you? Their PR guy. You know them as much as we do. You are not the queen of this site, however you act like your word is the finally say in this. I love to just peek into these lives by pictures.. you write novels like you think you know them. You are a very strange person. Now that I just wasted 5 minutes of my life I won't get back writing you... AAAAAGGHHH you suck people into this warped world you live in. O.k reality...SEE YA!!!

42 is not old!!! jenn aniston is 37 and in the aspen pics she looked terrible,haggard,tired...is she old? and vince with his horrible look!!

#226, #227, #228.
Honey, what are you doing? Asking the questions and Answering them yourself? (Whispering) That looks crazy, dear. You don't have to do that. Just give it time and others will respond to your post okay? That's how it is done. You don't want to do that again, coz I have to tell you the truth, it is the weirdest thing. You don't want to leave the wrong impression now. No one wants to talk to someone they think is.....well you know. So remember post wait for a reply from ANOTHER PERSON...REAL PERSON to respond and then you respond. Easy.

(loudly)
Now about your post, See, the thing is everyone who has been with someone is getting sloopy seconds of another person. That's is life, for instance, your significant other was with someone else, which means you are getting that person's sloopy seconds and before that it was someone else's and around and round it goes. The thing is though, when he/she leaves you for someone else, that person is getting your sloopy seconds. I bet you like that hun?

Anyway, I just don't your point.

231 Mark my words..you are very boring ,get a life ... and do not worry about brad pitt,you are obsessed

LMAO - #232 I Rest My case. Thank you for making this easy.

PR? Only in my wildest dreams (sigh)

The Pix are good hun? I think so too.

Cindy2, what r u trying to prove here by posting those articles that make Angelina look so smart and angelic? To make her fans grow?

Millions of people have read those articles. it's not as if we are not aware of them. And you keep defending Angelina for the sake that she is a "saint."

There are millions of people who do what she does, but never get the attention she gets. THEY DONT WANT THE ATTENTION. She is NO MORE SPECIAL.

"It's just another of the growing fatigue we all have for Jennifer. She has moved into media overexposure after she continued her breakup circuit well after the Vanity Fair interview."

You SHOULD be fatigued!! Because YOU are the ones to keep discussing the woman. She is simply trying to answer to her fans. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, THEN IGNORE IT! WHY DO U KEEP BRINGING IT UP??

"Voight had the audacity to call UN, and tell them to cancel her trip to Sierra Leone"

Do you know why he did that? Because he was worried sick about her. Angelina has said things against her father because she is very very angry. When you allow anger to lead your decisions about family members like that, you're creating a world of hurt for everyone. It was stated in another article that Angelina and Jon use to fight all the time. What father and daughter havent?! That's actually a GOOD thing. She may not realize it now, but she will later. it's both good and bad. It's bad in that I agree it is toxic and you should stay away from people like that, but still allow them to be in some part of your life if they still love you. It's a good thing in that her father DOES care about her!!!

#237 Linda
From the responses that Cindy2 has gotten, you can see that some of us do appreciate the articles she posts. It only presses home our points that Angelina Jolie is not the evil person she is being potrayed as.

Cindy2, what r u trying to prove here by posting those articles that make Angelina look so smart and angelic? To make her fans grow? -LOL...Yeah Okay. Angelina needs a bigger fan base and Cindy2 gets paid by how many people she "converts". ROTFLMAO

#231 first of all,the man has been trying to shake the pretty boy image for awhile now. He has said in the past,he doesn't know how much longer,he wants to be a part of the whole Hollywood thing,as it was a young man's game. He looks pretty content to me. Maybe he is just sick and tired of hairdressers and botox,and looking like a goddamn plastic ken doll.
#237, What Jon Voight did is took something that was very private and made it public,what he did was a lot worse than what Aniston's mom did and she refuse's to forgive her mother. Aniston's mother raised her,Jon Voight did not raise Angie,she owes him nothing,sometimes we have to choose to love from afar. Now Aniston needs to forgive the woman who carried her and who raised her,no matter what she said JEN,she is still the reason you are here.

It's funny. I like the present BP more than the one that was photographed befoer with JA. Different folks, different strokes! African girl, I always enjoy your posts. I would write longer ones myself if I could. I am just not eloquent. Coming here to read BAMZ lovers posts is like going to a friendly club. We have many interests in our lives. BAMZ is one of them!

Jen shouldnt forgive her mother! I would never even go near a woman like that. She wrote a BOOK about her daughter! She said some things that were unforgiveable and personal in that book. Why would she do that knowing her dauughter is an actress. Because she could cash in on it, that's why!

I would NEVER trust a woman like that! Are you kidding me? I would STAY away from a distrustful woman like that.

Atleast Jon wrote a letter TO his daughter! He didn't write a book! He could do that, ya know, but he hasn't.

And as far as what he wrote in that letter. There are many fathers who have made HARSH CRITICISMS to their daughters for their behavior. He is no different! of course that letter would anger Angelina. If I received a letter from my father criticizing me, although out of his love and concern for me, I'd probably scream at him and not speak to him either for a while (not for years, like Angelina). Fathers have a funny way of showing their love for their daughters.

Jon LOVES his daughter. He expresses his love the wrong way sometimes, and what father hasn't, but he still LOVES her just the same.

Cindy2, everyone knows that her mother cried and so forth because of everything with Jon not being there for his family 100%. I have seen women burst out crying like this for similar reasons- their man not being there for them a 100% and so forth.

It is an emotional roller coaster ride for some women. And yes, especially with children involved. What single mother has not gone through this? Angelina also stated that she found it useless to sit around crying like that and decided to make her life different based on what she witnessed with her mother. And I am sure Angelina is more protective and defensive of her mother because of this.

But harboring anger against a father who has been trying to get in touch with you, is not the answer. She is 30 years old now. She needs to let go of the past and relate to her father in an adult manner. That means, "Old man, I respect you, and i will see you, because you are my father and you still love me, but you are not going to overstep your boundaries for the obvious reasons. I will make sure of that."

is angelina jolie now in italy?

FYI: Jennifer Aniston has reconciled with her Mother. Following her divorce from Brad Pitt, her mother contacted her, and they are trying to bridge their differences and are reconciling. It has been reported in several articles and a few interviews with Jennifer Aniston.

Linda, Emily, Xtina , Jess etc. You are the missing the point. Respect ? For what ? For being a father that did not support her her family either emotionally or financially while she was growing up? Please respect has to be earned. He wasn't around most of her growing years when she needed him to be there and now all of the sudden he wants to tell her what to do? He had nothing to do with her until she became somebody in Hollywood. Do we hear him make statements about her brother? Is he not concerned about him also?

Concern had nothing with it , for if it had it would have stayed within their family and not something that the world knew about before she did. Love goes hand in hand with loyalty. Blood is supposed to be thicker than water. But what Jon did was neither loyal or loving. If Jon is serious about mending fences with Angelina... he has start with mending fences with her mother. We are defined not by our words but by our actions. Obviously Jon's actions have not given his words any credibility. Telling someone you love them means nothing if how they treat you says something else.

African Girl – kudos to you girl for response #36. Great come back. ;)

#231, your post just show how shallow and immature you are. Brad and Angie are mature people who have grown up and become wiser. Their looks or physical attraction is secondary to them. It is so obvious to see that that their personalities connect. They have the same likes and wants not just in creating a family, but hobbies, sports, and goals. And yes, you are wrong. Open your eyes and mind, and while you’re at it, read your English grammar/spelling book.
Chanel-we all hope they are. :D

Well, so much for the March 18th Italian wedding rumors, unless it's going to be a very late night ceremony.

I have seen fathers be there for their children a lot of the time. But some of these same fathers ABUSE their children. Angelina should be thankful her father did not ABUSE them.

i am not fond of Jon, but I think there's a lot of anger involved and misconceptions by the public because of what Angelina has said.

You treat whatever Angelina says like gold! What makes you think she is always right? She could be wrong in alot of the things she's saying.

I know you guys are her fans. And you dont like people bursting your bubble. I am a fan of Angelina's (have her screen saver and everything) but I don't have BLINDS over my eyes! I see things from a REAL perspective.

Some of you said not to believe the tabloids. You shouldn't believe ANYTHING that is said in the media, articles, interviews and photos even by the celebrities themselves! These are just minute glimpses from varied perspectives.

You need to get out of the box and analyze this. Even the celebs themselves don't know what they're saying and they're only giving brief statements about their lives, much of which can be mixed up or made up.

"Concern had nothing with it , for if it had it would have stayed within their family and not something that the world knew about before she did."

Angelina never kept anything "inside the family." She exposed her father and everything about her life. That gave Jon permission to speak up about her antics. Maybe he made a mistake in some of his wordings, but he's not doing this for publicity. If he did, he'd be crucified for doing it! As he is now. He did it, despite how angry it would make Angelina. He didnt do it to hurt her. There is just a battle between them and they both need to learn how to handle their issues and not make it into a battle.

African Girl,Juno,Cindy2....get a life. Enough said!!

are they married yet?

Just checking in to see if any confirmation has been received of a marriage today in Italy. I guess possible wedding news has been broadcast all day, according to my friends and family, and they want me to be the first to know! Hope it is true....

Just wondering after reading some of the letters criticizing Jared BAMZ contributors... If others can have serious and meaningful lives while still maintaining enthusiam for sports teams, movies, bands or entertainers, why are we wrong for our interest in this pair of fascinating people living extraordinary lives? I admit it isn't as grand as following interplanetary travel or curing cancer, but I am so puzzled by the people who read all 300 or 400 or 600 posts, only to say how stupid and "moronic" we are. So what if we are fascinated by Brangelina? After reading the interviews given by Angelina, she seems even more deserving of our interest than ever. She is so young, it's amazing that she has accomplished what she has. Thank you Cindy2 for the research. I am very appreciative of the time you and others take to share this information.

Just my thoughts on George Clooney seeming to distance himself from Brad...only a hunch, but George loves to play. He would only make such comments if he was really very much involved. He is a team kind of guy, a ringleader most of the time for the Oceans 12 pack. If Brad's brother isn't the best man, I am sure George will be.

Someone also said that Jon risked Angelina's adoption of Maddox. SHE RISKED IT HERSELF! By talking about knives, sex, many lovers, mentioning she would literally have the ability to "kill" (and not the metaphor) anybody who would hurt her brother, allowing BillyBob to say on the red carpet "we fucked in the car." I mean you're saying Jon was responsible in risking Angelina's adoption! You're not serious!

"What makes you come on so strongly, so loudly about the "sins" of others?"

People have been coming on strongly about the sins of others (murderers, cheaters, abusers, sex addicts [ahem, Colin Farrell], bullies, corruption), for years. If people feel something's wrong here, they're going to speak up about it.

Angelina, like anyone else, will have critics. Especially, when she does things that are controversial. What do you expect?

How can you all defend or pass judgement on people you do not know? Can't you just look at the pictures and take then for what they are worth? Nothing in the real world. Yeah AJBP are happy... good they should be!! Boo hoo JA sad!! Great! That is her problem... Stop this maddness of writing sagas about them, plus who the hell reads Readers Digest anyway?? My grandfather maybe.

Brad is HOT! HOT! HOT!

Wow, just got home and decided to see what was going on with Bamz,and I see the arguement is still going on about Angelina not speaking with her father.People we don't know what happen between these two.Angelina and John are responsible for their own actions,and they both will have to live with the consequences of their actions,case closed.Reguarding Angelina being honest about her past,I respect her for that so much.It took a lot of courage to just lay it out there for the whole world to see.Not many people would have the guts to do that,because they would be afraid of people judging them.Angelina is a strong and honest woman,thats why I am a fan.To the haters who keep going on and on about Brad looking like s##t.Yes he looks a little rugged,but he cleans up quite well when needed.Even rugged he still looks hot.You should see the pictures of Vince on celebritysource.blogspot.com.The man has three rows of bags under his eyes and he's only 35.I could not imagine looking at that first thing in the morining.

"My grandfather maybe." lol

Well atleast you have a grandfather. What about Angelina's children? Jon Voight is trying desperately to be a part of their lives.

Grandfathers do stupid things too. Many men do. That doesnt mean you block them from seeing their kin.

Heck, my grandfather was ruthless till the day he died in running his household. To the point where one of my cousins even compared him to Saddam because he acted like such a dictator. But he was still a good guy. Some of my family members just may have disagreed with the way he did some things in the household. Nothing truly bad though. Just enough to piss some of them off. Nothing abusive.

But my parents, uncles and aunts never went as far as blocking him from seeing his own grandchildren. He was a serious man, but he loved his children and grandchildren and great grandchildren more than anything in the world. Like Jon, he was a good man, despite how he may have angered some.

My father, although he would never admit it, knew my grandfather had his negative ways. Some would say that my grandfather didnt do a very good job of raising his family after my grandmother died at a young age.

But you just don't treat family the way Angelina is doing, simply because Jon did it wrong. Atleast he WANTS to be involved in her life. He's not a good father, but he still has love for her. HOw can you deny that, especially to an old man? He's not asking to be joined at the hip to her. He simply wants to see his daughter!

Lou... why does VV's name have to come up in everything or JA? When I wrote my comment about BP looking like crap who cares what VV looks like?VV is ugly BP is now ugly... end of story. You can't even let someone say he looks like crap now?Geez this website is more slanted than the news on tv now a days. I can't have liked BP and now find him really looking awful? Believe me there are tons of people who agree. AJ LOOKS HOT HOT HOT... BP NOT NOT NOT!!! She will tire you will all see. She is to free spirted to be domesticated!!!

"You should see the pictures of Vince on celebritysource.blogspot.com.The man has three rows of bags under his eyes and he's only 35.I could not imagine looking at that first thing in the morining." lol

He parties a little too much and probably doesnt take care of his health. Brad has smoked, so he doesnt take care of his health either. Maybe Vince was just tired that day because I havent seen those bags under his eyes in other photos. But BP doesnt look too good either. They both look worn out. Men really need to keep a nice grooming regime. Take some tips from Queer Eye for the Straight Guy

I totally understand what you are saying LB,I have a friend who hasn't spoken to her father for 10 years because of the way he treated her mother.This man has never met his two grandkids as well.I refuse to judge my friend because of this.She's a wonderful wife and mother and a good person.Will she regret this one day?Maybe,but it's her choice to make.

#255, whatthe..

"stop this maddness of writing sagas about them"...No. People who want to write them should, and people (me!) who want to read them can, all without your approval or disapproval, and hopefully for a long time, 'cuz it's fun. If you don't get it, sorry...

#256, sheila@5:05
I know!

#258, LB @ 5:24
Your post is such a great example of how to offer a different opinion intelligently and with a purpose. In your case I want to say you gave me something to think about, and you changed my mind somewhat. I do think what Jon Voight did was extreme enough to do permanent damage, but you are so right when you point out that having a grandfather is meaningful, and maybe Mad and the other children will appreciate any attempts by Angelina to include him in their lives after all. Amen.

"Do we hear him make statements about her brother? Is he not concerned about him also?"

How should we know? James Haven is not in the public eye. He's not famous. He chooses to stay out of the media. So, Jon probably does love his son and has concern for him but what is there for him to discuss to the media or be concerned about over James?

Angelina is the one who has made her relationship with her father public and that is why Jon is trying to reach her through the media. She's blocking him.

If her mother or brother could help Jon, then he wouldnt go to the media. But obviously they're not helping him see his daughter, so he has had to resort to using the media.

'Where's my daughter? Please help me find my daughter. Please...'
JEEZ! Who wants to hear that come out of a father's mouth?!!! It's as if someone shot or kidnapped a man's child. It's nuts.

I think that whole family is a little mental, but what can you do.

#259 you didn't have to comment on Brad at all,but since you did I felt you really needed to see what s##t looks like.Domesticated?Angelina's not a cat.You just keep beating the drum of her past.The woman is 30, and has shown she is a good mother.Her marriage to BBT didn't breakup because she wasn't domesticated,the man didn't want the responsiblty of staying home and taking care of Maddox.He went on the road with his band.So she left him.Angelina was being a responsible mother staying home and taking care of her kid.That sounds pretty domesticated to me.Brad and Angelina have spent the whole time since they hooked up loving each other and caring for those kids.They have not been out partying.That speaks volumes.People change,but you seem to forget that little fact.

The only two witnesses to everything that went on between Angie and Jon are them ; not you and not me. I have said this before. a person will not remember what was said, what was given but they will remember how you made them feel. How can we praise Angelina for her growth and emotional intelligence and then try to second guess her decision regarding her father? Abuse comes in many forms. Contrary to the what some think ... bruises and broken bones heal but words can not be forgotten. Would you be so eager to expose your children to someone who has abused you in some manner and scarred your soul? Not on your life until he proves himself to me...Forgiveness is not the same thing as trust. Trust is something like respect once lost it has be earned again. Angie's appreciation of Brad as a father is because he is everything that her father was not . Being a sperm donor does make a father. Ask Brad. Jon was little more than that ... There are men. friends of her mother's who where more active in Angie's life than Jon. Those kids already have an old fashioned kind of grandpa in Brad father already.

I said this before ... Jon needs to make peace with Angie's mother and also her brother for starter.... IF his feelings are genuine.

I can comment whatever I want. It is so funny coming to this site because you all think you are Dr.Phil. You have one poster who finds stuff in the Readers Digest!! What kind of time do you have on your hands to look stuff like that up? If you notice my comments are about how nuts you all are... nothing other than me reading your stuff. Hell yeah I am gonna read it... I have three hours to kill and I needed a laugh.. you guys just need a comment thrown in there slapping you back into reality every so often. Jon Voight. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!! Who cares why they don't speak? At the end of the day does it effect you NO!! Or maybe some of you looloos think it does. I joined a program writing to soliders in Iraq... maybe you could use some of your story telling.... Africangirl...cindy2...juno... to help some of them get their moral up. Oh...just to get your feathers up... BP looks like CRAP!!!! I see with my eyes, no reading into anythingt here.

"How can we praise Angelina for her growth and emotional intelligence and then try to second guess her decision regarding her father?"

The fact is, AJ hasn't really "grown" or possess a lot of "intelligence" in these matters.

AJ & her mother both have problems with dealing with issues. They don't know how to get themselves out of an emotional setback (eg. her fear of marriage which now places her status as an illegitimate mother). And AJ probably then digs it in even deeper so that she is more full of hatred & revenge. Why can she not forgive her father? Isn't one of the virtues of Buddhism supposed to be that she should forgive others who may have wronged her? This woman is 30 & is about to give birth to a biological child. It's about time that she grows up. Her heart is truly narrow & can only hold things which she is PERSONALLY interested in (at the TIME that she is interested in it).

Her relationship with her father is like a little 5 year old girl who gets mad at her daddy because he didn't give her a piece of candy (so that it wouldn't rot her teeth more). So she remembers those things forever and bases her adult behaviors on that. AJ being abused?? Her father wasn't around. How could she have been more abused than what she does to herself (eg. knife-cutting)? Emotional or psychological abuse? Um.... when was AJ such an emotionally or psychologically stable person who can discern the difference between discipline & abuse?

Well Elena,I guess they have gone from bring up her past to complaining that she won't speak to her father.There are alot of celebrities who don't speak to their mother or father.What it boils down to I guess they have to b###h about something because they blame her for Brads divorce.The whole issue is so sad.What will be next?A funny thing happen today when I was shopping.A lady was standing in front of me,she looked very slender then she turned around and I saw her bump.Her arms were still thin as well as her face,legs etc.She was boobs and belly and also 7 months along like Angelina.I just laughed to myself because of all the posts made by the haters complaining she was to thin.Every woman carries different,Angie is lucky hers stayed in one place.

Fantastic Anna you hit the nail on the head.
Watch out though... you pushed them into a corner.. You make a very VALID POINT!!! Nothing nasty, just an unbias opinion about a women that has let this part of her life out there for the public to see... her relationship with BP however she has been very closed mouth?? Hmmmmm

Brad looks a little tired from helping his pregnant partner care for two very young children. Vince Vaughn looks a LOT tired from...well, you know.

When it comes to Angelina relationship to Brad,I agree with Paltrow on that subject.KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.I feel after BBT she will be doing just that.

Angie is evolving. Everyone is so anxoius to get all the answers at once, but I am sure she will have things figured out, especially with the help of a good partner. Best wishes to her.

#226 You have three hours to Kill and you need a laugh.

I have three hours to kill and I need to write.

Cindy2 has three hours to Kill and she does research.

Juno Has three hours to Kill and she wants to have a good debate.

The real Lou has three hours to kill and she wants people to understand that things aren't always black and white.

Every one has three hours to kill and want to put in their two cents.

Hell Yeah, we are all going laugh, write, do research, have a good debate, and try to be objective. Now that we have established that we ALL have time to Kill, can we get past the "not having a life" issue. And with the "nuts" issue, I figure we are ALL NUTS or No one is. No halfsies.

Writing to soldiers in Iraq? Sounds intriguing,so how does one go about doing that? Very commendable by the way.

Lou, LOL you are right... I am on my way out the door. One of my malefriends is taking my to New Orleans for dinner . I do hope these individuals who posts are so full of anger, and venom are not parents. I am doing a study at the Med school here of women who Anna and whatever and so many of those like them remind me of... All have abused or molested their children. All like Anna and Whatever hate themselves. the world and anything that is reflective of the emptyness of their soul. I hope they find their way to a church or to therapy for they are truly emotionally sick.

Have a wonderful evening...got to run....

I'll like to thank all the supporters of Angie out there. She has a lot to offer this world. More power to this family.

The website for the soldiers is: Soldiersangel.org. Check it out, it makes a difference in someone life... that is awesome!! I mean nothing personal with my comments ..truly. I respect your opinions, sorry they don't match though.... we could use you on our side :)!!
Love AJ she is HOT!!! Keep up the great debate, you have good points!! check back later.

Hello African,Yes I do have a few hours to kill tonight.My best friend is a teacher and I spent the morning helping her tutor students with learning disabilities.My sweet husband is taking care of the kids so I am free.See Angelina has even inspired me to help the less forunate.What a wonderful woman.

"I know you guys are her fans. And you dont like people bursting your bubble."

First of all, this is not a fan site. This is a blog. And even if this were a fan site, people would still post their criticisms on that celebrity's fan site.

Secondly, if her fans do not like the criticisms, then they shouldn't be responding. It's insane to respond to people who have criticisms on a celebrity.

I've seen many of my favorite celebrities being criticized, but I don't care about them. IT'S EXPECTED. I've seen my favorite celebs being bashed by others many, many times. I never cared. What are you gonna do? Get the mafia on them? I never respond to their criticisms anyway, because it's only going to make the criticisms worse and I don't want that for my favorite celebs and I don't really take it seriously unless someone makes it into an issue like you guys are. I just post my compliments and go!

And the fact that Angelina fans are admitting that there are haters is not doing a whole lot of good for their reputation. No one wants to be "hated."

The funny thing is, the so called "haters" have said time and time again that they do not "hate" these celebrities. But you wanna go on saying they do. That's probably more hurtful to Angelina. She can take the criticisms, but I don't think she likes the fact that her fans are saying that people "hate" her.

There are many of us who respect her, but we just don't like some of the things she does. And we will voice our opinions on that. What can you do about it? You have to let it go and not take it so personally, because that's just mentally unhealthy.

"All have abused or molested their children. All like Anna and Whatever hate themselves. the world and anything that is reflective of the emptyness of their soul. I hope they find their way to a church or to therapy for they are truly emotionally sick."

Elena, thank you for that. I can see you have a long ways to go in your own psychotherapy. i appreciate the fact that someone who is studying to help other people or who is already in that field would be so kind and intelligent enough to say those things. You really represent Angelina and thanks for that.

You are the one who is mentally sick. I feel sorry for anyone who would do psychotherapy with you. You should get your degree or license taken away for the comments you just made. Hope nobody reads your computer. This is how Brangelina fans represent themselves?

Elena, you are the utter professional. Hands off to the psychotic psychotherapist wannabe who spends all day on an Angelina blog, obsessing over her and both practicing and FAILING at analyzing people.

Thank you for post #278 No one "hates."We're ALL fan's.You made some very valid points.But some of the people say they don't hate Angelina,but they do.I not a fan of Miss Jen but I don't spend all day on her site critiquing her every move,commenting on how she looks.Some of these people spend all day on this site ripping on Angelina blaming her for Jen's divorce and it gets old.There is difference between contructive criticism and spewing hate.

Elena what kind of psychology do you do? Because you give the worst advice. Words and trust and so forth. There's alot of words and distrustful things that both mothers and fathers say and do.

But the issue here is that Jon has been openly trying to SEEK his daughter. What other father that you ignore for 10 years or 5 years ...says he wants to see you? It must be painful for him. He must be sitting at home, thinking, "I know I've done wrong. But I wish Angelina would speak to me."

Think of the old man sitting in his chair, by himself. iT's sad. He WANTS to see his daughter. To ignore a parent that wants to see you, is the most painful thing in the world. He ignored his children alot, but maybe he was going through his own problems as well. He doesnt seem like a stable man.

There are many drunk fathers, there are abusive ones, there are many fathers who have done wrong things in their lives. But if they have said they love you and want to see you, why hold so much anger? Elena, for someone in psychology, you should know holding grudges and anger toward someone and completely ignoring them like that is not the wisest decision.

My parents have done a lot of unforgiveable things, inlcuding beating me when I was little, exposing secrets of mine to others they shouldnt have, embrassing me to others, verbally criticizing me too much.... but I accept that. I accept they can't change. And I've DEALT with it and learned how to maneuver my way around it. And my parents have grown too. They realize that they can be wrong too, although they repeat some actions.

But I would never ignore them like that. They havent apologized for some of the things they've done but I know they don't know any better and I know they have some regrets, like Jon does.

There are many fathers WORSE than Jon Voight. He by all means did nothing horrendous. Every family has its problems. And there are ways of handling it. Parents make mistakes. Jon Voight, like my parents, have made mistakes. But one thing I know, my parents, despite anything they've done wrong in the past, are my parents. And I will always forgive them and if they need me, I will never ignore them. If they hit me when I was little, but have realized their mistakes, I will hug them when they are old.

it's easy for Angelina to ignore her father because she makes millions of dollars. People like that, and the ones who didn't live in a traditional home, do not know the value of marriage and family sometimes. They envy it and long for it, but it doesnt necessarily mean they know what to do with it or how to go about it.

I do not see what Jon did that was completely unforgiveable. What Jen Aniston's mom did, and some other celeb parents have done, wiritng a book on your child's personal life, now that's just wrong. That's going to the extreme. THAT is what I call distrustful. Because you are going to greater lengths there and USING your child for money.

"I do hope these individuals who posts are so full of anger, and venom are not parents. I am doing a study at the Med school here of women who Anna and whatever and so many of those like them remind me of... All have abused or molested their children. All like Anna and Whatever hate themselves. the world and anything that is reflective of the emptyness of their soul. I hope they find their way to a church or to therapy for they are truly emotionally sick.?

# 274 | Elena | March 18, 2006 07:18 PM

Huh??!!!!! For one, I am not "emotionally sick." Secondly, I don't see how you can make that type of judgment based on my post.

Thirdly, there is NO WAY I would ever abuse or molest children. The thought of it is sickening.

Fourthly - Unlike many who post here (& apparently you also), I am very SATISFIED with my life & I am one of the last to feel "empty" inside. Hence, there is NO NEED for me try to live my "ideal dreams" vicariously through others, like Brangelina.

Also, I am not full of anger or venom. I don't see the validity of holding anger against someone (which is a waste of my effort to do so anyway). And I don't see the need of trying to wish evil on someone just because they may have wronged me.

Although I tried to not mention your name in my post, keeping it indifferent such that others who may share your opinion may also be included, you likewise take this SO personally!! (hmm...it's almost like AJ!)

Anyway, although you seem to be a decent therapist in your previous posts, it is obvious that when you PERCEIVE that things are directed in a personal level at you (although not necessarily specifically intended), you also have problems with dealing with these issues, & it is difficult for you to get over it. Now I see why you love Angelina so much.

Real Lou, have you heard the old saying amongst actors, "One CHOOSES to be famous."

Angelina ASKED to be famous. She could be an actor without having to expose herself so much. Look at other respected actors who do not mention their family or personal lives to anyone.

Angelina chose to be famous. She chose to express to us her personal problems. Jennifer does not do that as much.

No celeb has really portrayed themselves in the media the way Angelina has. Angelina basically BROUGHT the publicity into her life. So she asked for the critiques.

#283 ROFL You've GOT to be kidding--"Jennifer does not do that as much (choosing to discuss personal problems"--what have you been smoking?!! Who has been the big publicity whore for the past 15 months, Jen or Angie? Lil' ol Jen looooooves the pity party interviews with Oprah, Vanity Fair, GQ, Vogue. GMAFB--you are kidding, right?

It's the same thing with the papparazzi. If you don't want the criticisms, if you don't want the cameras, then don't be famous!

There are many actors, such as John Cusack and Sean Penn who try not to expose themselves too much. John Cusack is a respected actor who has had a long life in the business. Do we really ever see him in the tabloids? No. Do we really know anything about his personal life? No.

If you don't want people criticizing you, then don't talk about your personal life as much as Angelina has. That was the first mistake she made. But we all know the real reason she does it. It could be an outlet for her. BUT, in reality, you make millions more money far more quickly, as well. Hence, the saying, actors can CHOOSE to be famous.

# 285--I repeat, you're joking, right?

#283 Give me a break.Angelina is not the first celebrity to talk about her past.Drew B is one example.She had a drug problem stemming from a young age and has been married twice.I don't recall people going on and on about it 1 year later.What this boils down to is the Brad,Jen and Angelina triangle.People are upset about the divorce and will not let go.I guess when people ripp on Jen she bought it on herself because she keeps talking about the divorce in everyone of the many interviews she keeps giving.So fine I guess Jen has asked for the critiques as well.

Compared to Angelina, Jen speaks very little on her personal life! With Angelina we knew she "fucked in the car" with BillyBob and that she wrote her ex-husband's name in blood at her first wedding or that she has many lovers. She even chose to speak about Maddox. We even knew what type of school he went to. There are many celebs who would never dare even mention their children to the media, for their protection!

Even that Reader's Digest article with Angelina was far more longer than most celeb interviews I've ever read! That could've been a book! Jen and many celebs talk, but they dont go into detail the way Angelina has.

And Jen too CHOSE to be famous. Any celeb that even mentions a word about their personal life, CHOOSES to be famous and answer to their fans.

And Jen had to answer! Some people were saying things about her that were harsh. And being associated with Angelina, who is a media whore herself, Jen NOW had to be in this unpredictable dilemma of having to answer these questions about her personal life. If Angelina were never in the picture, Jen would have had to NEVER even bring up the personal issues with her marriage and divorce.

Real Lou (gosh it sounds funny adding the real to your name) that is very admirable. Taking time to do something for someone else.

I only wish people understand that inspiration is a long way from Idolizing. We find this woman inspiring but does this mean we have put her on a pedestal? On the contrary, we see that she far from being a"goddess", she is someone who has made mistakes and learnt from it. Her life shows me that no matter what you've done in the past, as long as you still alive you can turn things around.

Everytime someone writes something about her past, it just makes me go "wow, she did that too? My, it shows how far she's come. Good for her" or "Goodness, if Angelina Jolie can find the will power to turn her life after all the things she has done, then anyone can do it". So I have no problem reading all the things about her past.

About her dad, it would be hypocritical of me to say I understand where is coming from because I don't. Fortunately for me, my father was one the good ones. He couldn't imagine being away from his family for months at a time let alone years. How else can you explain the fact that whenever he was transfered to the different places, he made sure we all came with him. It didn't matter if it was for six months or six yrs. There were people that though this was an unstable way to bring up children, but he felt the alternative was by far the greater evil. So I can not understand how a father abandons his own children.

So he wants to rectify his mistakes? No problem but he shouldn't expect to undo what has taken many years to do, in one meeting. I have noticed that it is easier to forgive people you don't care about than it is to forgive those you really love. The love leaves you very vulnerable and when it is mistreated, you hurt deeply. During the awards (I forget which year), when she was escorted by her dad, did anyone notice how happy she looked? She was like a little girl again, all giddy with excitement. Make no mistake, there is love there and that's why it hurts so much. So what if she's 30? There is still a hurt and scared little girl in there. Can anyone honestly say they haven't let their scared inner child come out in certain situations? Come on let's keep it (lol, keeping it real, sorry I keep using your handle but it makes so much sense.) She is a good person not a saint, let her have insecurities and doubts, hopefully, she'll over come them like everything les she has over come.

Thanks #276 for the website. I'll go check it out. It sounds like a good place to horne my writing skills (yeah, yeah I know it is supposed to be a selfless thing to do, so sue me. I have not gotten to the Angelina Jolie Level but it doesn't mean I am not trying. LOL).

The other thing is, Angelina took Jen's man. Angelina chose not to talk about it. If I were Jen, I would do the opposite of the woman who took my man, and TALK about it!

We ALL know Angelina took Jen's man, despite the marital problems or not! You can deny it all you want. But it's evident. Even Jen was upset about it!

Jen doesnt care about Angelina. So, Jen will TALK! If anything, Jen may be pissed off after what happened to her. What woman wouldnt be?

Why isnt Angelina speaking? She felt the need to talk before. Why not now?

#288 Jen didn't have to say anything,she wanted to open her mouth.How do you think the pity party got started.No one put a gun to her head.

#285 who's interested in John Cusack and Sean Pen. Jen Aniston and Brad talk too much about their union that result into the demise of their marraige. Angie and BBT , may be but not more than Brad and Jen. Brad and Angie learn thier lesson. so they are keeping silent even with all this media madness on them. Angie did have an interview with nightline but didn't heard her mention Brad nor family. It's Jen Anisotn on most mag., talk show, interview, shouting to the world she' coping, don't pity, I'm movin on. blab, blab, blab.

No one took Jen's man.That marriage was over in 2004.These two were faking it forever.

I will tell you this much. I think it's kinda odd that you people know every interview that Jen did. I personally have not read one interview by Jen except seeing that interview on Oprah last year, which no one would have missed. So, none of her "pity" interviews affected my view on the matter because i never read them. I saw only what Angelina did and the people she did them to.

Pebbles, the only time Brad smiles, is when Angelina is not around.

I see this breakup is REALLY EATTING AT SOME OF YOU.Jen has Vince be happy.

Hmmm...I wonder if any of you are Angelina.

Real Lou, no one cares that Brad and Jen BROKE UP. These break ups are such the norm, it would be expected! It was the way it happened that troubles people.

No, Real Lou, I think it's eating people like YOU up that people have criticisms of Angelina and Brad and their union. It's sad that they can't even smile with each other in front of the cameras like other celeb couples do to show their affection and love for each other. Their union, to many, isn't exactly the highest point of their public lives and careers. The high point is when there are no "haters" and you are completely commended for your actions and are not afraid to answer questions or have to hide your union. But she's getting controversy for it. And people don't like the way she did it and to the people whom she did it to and with.

Why would it trouble you?Brad and Jen separated and he went after Angelina and Jen hooked up with Vince.Brad waited until the divorce was filed before he hooked up with Angie.He did nothing wrong.He wasn't having a affair,he just fell in love with someone else,it happens.

The real reason THIS PARTICULAR breakup is so heated for people is b/c the media portrayed " American Sweetheart" VS. "Homewrecker Whore". Of course this sensational circus will SELL SELL SELL PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT. It's the public who was the sucker, looser in this, supporting all the magz. All other parties involved seem to be moving along just fine.

#295 Kelly...

Brad smiles when he's with Angie and he smiles even more when she's not around because...

He's thinking about what he's going to do with her / to her when he DOES she her again!!!

Ever thought about that?

#298...

Why should it bother you or anyone else...he didn't break up with you?

You need to start worrying about if someone in YOUR life is going to break up with you and how you're going to deal with it...

Instead of being BOTHERED how this one (BP/JA) ended...

To everyone,why would they be smiling for paparazzi pitures?You make it seem like they are on the red carpet.I see pictures of Jen and Vince looking less than happy with life,but I don't look at them and assume they are uphappy.I think you are reading alittle to much into this picture thing.

"He's thinking about what he's going to do with her / to her when he DOES she her again!!!"

lol... NO i do NOT think about that!

You people are nuts, but i do like pushing your buttons.

Either way, I like it when people bring out the psychotic side of you guys, like Elena. Did you see how she went all exorcist and said that about molestation and all that?

Angelina fans are crazy.

Grandparents have rights now. Jon Voight could take them to court and demand to see his grandchildren and the court would grant him visitation rights. It's true.

#290...to everyone....your post is totally illogical. You are accusing Angelina of taking Jen's man. The act of taking someone, would mean that you had to overpower them, grab them, or possibly
kidnap them. For an adult, I would assume you mean that a gun or some type of deathly threat was used during the act. Or,
moving on to the highly irrational explanation, some kind of magic was used to 'take' this person. Let's consider the facts, BP isan
adult male, of sound mind and body, but has yet to report to the authorities that he was 'taken' by AJ back in 2005. Another fact
to consider, he has had numerous means of escape at his disposal during this time, e.g. plane, motorcycle, car, but it appears that
he has yet to make any attempts to escape. On the contrary, from the daily pics taken of him, especially those in this thread
with the jeans and white sweater, he's strutting around looking might fine and gorgeous as ever. So, if you have evidence, or
eyewitnesses, as to when and where he was stolen, it would be greatly appreciated if you present it, rather than making these type of irrational, tabloid sounding statements and being able to back it up.

Oh Goodnes, can we just stop this.
He cheated - No He didn't
She is crazy - No She isn't
She is a whore - No She isn't
She talks to much - No She doesn't
And on and on it goes. Obviously we are never going to come to an agreement. People will continue to believe what they want. The most we can do is state out opinions, we all come from different places and I don't mean physically, I mean emotionally, mentally, our outlooks are different. We can see that. No body is crazy, Psychotic, nuts, in fantasy land, jobless, has no life and whatever else that is being said. I for one am getting tired of this circle we keep getting into. If we stopped bickering long enough, we will see kind of opportunity we have at our finger tips. There so many people with wonderful insights about life here, Where else can we find people from Thailand, India, London, Africa, meeting in one place and having a wonderful albeit heated discussion? (I know know about the UN but that's not what I mean). I enjoy meeting new people, hearing what they have to say and if possible be taken into another way of life different from mine. The fact that we meet on a blog about celebrities should not demean what we are exchanging here. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are a jumping off point for whatever else comes to mind. I know that when two or more people get together, there are bound to be issues but this is getting old. Come on....

It's late and I am tired, so have a wonderful night everyone. Hopefully tommorow will be a better day.

Cindy2 have a good day, don't let the nonsense that has ended our day, ruin the begining of yours. Signing over to you now (weakly LOL)

# 290 - 'to everyone' - Just what do you think AJ actually did?And just where exactly have you been hiding your head??? In #294 you actually admit you haven't listened to all the interviews JA has done, so how can you have a 'balanced' or accurate view of the situation? Fine to form an opinion after you have had a good look at what we the public can see of the situation, but to hold an opinion with such hostility when it's not even well-researched, is ignorant!
If you actually really listened to not just what people say, but also to THEIR ACTIONS (which often speak louder than words!) you would realize that AJ was hardly responsible for the breakdown of BP & JA's marriage. Brad & Jen created a relationship together, they were BOTH responsible to keep it together, and were BOTH responsible when it failed to stay together. It is pretty clear, from both Brad AND Jen's actions and words, that their relationship was doomed long before MAMSmith.
I have been reading a book with my husband about relationships, and came across a significant comment on divorce which may help some of you who have not got closed minds regardless of the facts!! It is from a book called 'Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work':
"In probably the most reliable survey ever done on divorce, by Lynn Gigy Ph. D., and Joan Kelly, Ph D., ... 80% of divorced men and women said their marriage broke up because they gradually grew apart and lost a sense of closeness, or because they did not feel loved and appreciated. Only 20 to 27% of couples said an extramarital affair was EVEN PARTIALLY TO BLAME." (p. 16).

So it seems to me that Brad & Jen are the ones responsible for their marriage breakdown, not AJ.
So Ange 'took her man'??? Maybe Jen should have got pistols out at dawn to fight her off!! Which is just how ridiculous some people's arguments sound!

# 307 - 'Mrs Smith' - that was funny! I just posted my comment to find that you had just posted yours! And we were both on the same wavelength about the 'gun'!
Thanks for the laugh!

#305

You haven't pushed any buttons...just saying you don't know what the man is thinking.

I could really care less what you think of me or any of the other fans/non-fans...

but whatever

Just got home from work, long day. Guess I opened a can of worms with my question last night. As usual I wasn't here for any of it. What I would give for three hours to kill. Thanks Cindy2 for the info. If I ever need to locate a needle in a haystack I am calling you girlfriend! lol. I'm too exhausted from working a double to comment on everything I'm missed. African Girl's right anyway, it is a never-ending circle. Well, hopefully they'll surprise us all with a wedding soon. I would love it if they did get married right under noses while the press is camped out in Italy. That would be so funny.

Why do the haters all write in paragraphs with big blank spaces in between? To set themselves apart? They make it so easy for me to skip reading their posts. For once, thanks haters.

# 290 | to everyone |

hey u tell me who fuck u so much and got dumped like jen does?? u keep insisting that angie stole brad...how?? tell me?? and u want angie to talk about like u do....shit nobody is interested to learn that u got dumped, that your husband got tired of your insecurity, your whining and fugly face and these people are celebrities...tell me and show me a data that says how many people disapprove the bp amd aj relationship...i bet you can not come up with solid evidence backing up your whiny ass...get a life loser and stop whining that your ex-husband was stolen....such an idiot comment from a whiny dog/chihuahua!!

to 305
You think people here are nut, then why are you wasting your time responding to all the nuts here. ? you're no different from the people here.

why don't you go and empathize with angie's daddy?? you're so caring and loyal daughter....

Pic of Pregnant Jolie:

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=rjjo5f

God, you're telling me that this looks normal, when you're more than half way into your pregnancy?

Arms, neck and face that skinny, when you're more than half way int your prgnancy is not normal.

I've seen skinny pregnant women before, but this is ridiculous.

Uh, this is not another adoption, Jolie. You do have to eat when having a new baby. What does she need arms for when she's got Brad to schlep everything for her. Talk about anorexia gone amok.

And flying a plane at this stage? Flying a plane is different than being a passenger in an airplane. The cabin pressure is different, there's more turbulence, shaking and radiation and what if something went wrong? A pregnant woman parachuting off a plane does not look nor feel normal when you're dropping from the air like that.

She use to be MORE voluptuous when she wasn't pregnant. She looks horrible as a pregnant woman. Talk about bone rack!

Gwen Stefani's got to be the hottest pregnant woman ever. Jolie looks like Mary Kate Olsen.

"to evryone is busybodies hypocrite": grow up! another psycho brangelina fan. SPEAK ENGLISH! It's like, you people get possessed like in the exorcist. We can see your heads spinning! Glad to see we don't push your buttons or that you're not reading our posts.

JA is just a TV actress striving for attention. I don't know how she managed to hook BP in the 1st place.

she wants angie , brad and jen as her guests..so that jen can accuse angie as a husband stealer, homewrecker and all other nasty name calling that anna, the jerry springer wannabe come to think off but too professional (??) to say them in public....she wants angie to tell all her dirty secrets so that she and jen can happily crazy justifiably point their fingers that all the rumors, tabloid gossips are true to justify jen and her fans hatred against angie....they will do everything to get revenge against angie even accusing her of being uncaring daughter and maybe even a murderer...but then braddy just ignore the jerry sringer wannabes and carry cuddles his babies and being more loving to the mother of his first biological baby and these makes jen and her fans more madder and hateful of being ignored, categorized as scorned women and pathetic losers .....

no inglese puta...no understan inglese puki!!

# 306 | Granny

grow up and go to sleep so that you have the energy to take care of your grand kids

#321, speaking in foreign tongues now? Someone call an exorcist for this freak.

#290 everyone
Aj stole Jen man ? a mature , smart person will do enough reseach and know it's not ! Brad is not a kid that could be stole at gun point . ok, if stolen , Brad can run out of it. With all this negative press and bashing, and he still stick with angie that means his commitment with AJ is deep. The home was wreck even before AJ come in. B andJ was seeing marriage counselor since 2003.obviouly it didn't work. even without AJ,. B and J was already in the divorce pathway. The true vicitm of this triangle is AJ . she does not deserve all this bashing, she was a reborn person after BBT, she's devoted to her work ( career and UN), devoted to her son, devoted to her mother. she had a dark past but we should not contempt a person of her past. I came to appreciate AJ after this scandal, her courage and commitment to Brad despite all this negaitve odd. others would have freak out with all this madness.
Brad & Jen are the ones responsible for their marriage breakdown, not AJ.

Elena has a "male friend"? How nice. Is the guy from one of your insane asylums?

Sharing with BAMZ fan and haters
Only at Lainey Gossip - not even Ted Casablanca has this scoop! Fresh, as in this morning, from a strategically placed spy in LA ...here's the not-so-exciting scoop: The Pitts, as widely reported, have been doomed for a while: since as early as 2003, when Brad made some telling comments in a magazine interview saying that love doesn't have to be forever, that he and Jen knew that, and that if their ride had to end...it would end, and they would accept it. When the (inexplicable) buzz around her performance in The Good Girl took her to a new level, Jen put Brad off babies until the end of Friends. When the 9th season concluded with an extension, she once again promised one more year. In that time she was signed to nearly 5 upcoming projects...without consulting him first. Her big mistake was not telling him before the scripts would arrive. When he saw her accepting role after role - and had to read about it in the daily trades - he confronted her. And to hold him off, she relented again...temporarily. So the deal is: she finishes the show, he finishes Mr. & Mrs. Smith and Oceans 12 over the summer of 2004...and then they take a break. What happens? Derailed. As in the movie co-starring Clive Owen. She signs on with, yet again, no warning to Brad and it's off to couples therapy we go. Wouldn't you know it...every interview she gave last year leading up to the Friends finale was taped while the two were in counselling. And although she had absolutely NO intention of having a kid any time soon, she still persisted in saying on Diane Sawyer, and Oprah, and ET, and on and on and on...that a baby was on its way (which means she's a better actress than we give her credit for). This further infuriated Brad. 'Obviously your image is more important than actually making what you say real...why are you going on tv saying one thing and then refusing to get this done as soon as you get home?' Next up: filming with Angelina. Jen nearly lost it when she heard about the on-screen chemistry. So she flies to Cannes to open Troy with her husband and they spend a few weeks in Europe where things were actually getting better. For the sake of the marriage, after getting advice from his parents, he was willing to wait, understanding that his wife clearly had many issues to resolve within herself and wasn't ready at the time for a baby anyway. Besides, no one wanted to affect the box office sales of Oceans 12, so the two pledged yet again to give it a go. The problem is, they hardly spent any quality time together in the fall. Jennifer was filming back to back pictures, he was getting ready for the Oceans promo, and ...as my source says, he wasn't willing to be the only person injecting some sincerity and romance in to their marriage anymore. And then came the Oceans 12 cast interview with Diane Sawyer when Brad visibly choked up and said he would like nothing more than to have a little girl like Jen running around. When news of the interview reached Jen, she hit the roof, prompting a huge fight, and the famous 'London' incident when he ended up celebrating his birthday alone last December and she was photographed at the airport, upset and, some say, without her wedding ring. They briefly reconnected over Christmas, made the decision together without fanfare and then joined Courteney and David on vacay for one last hurrah to escape the media frenzy when the announcement dropped on January 7th. However...what started out as an amicable split is getting increasingly nastier as time goes on. Brad is pissed that she hasn't come out to refute the infidelity rumours, that she is content to milk the public's affection and let him look like a cheating scumbag only because she wants to turn it around for her career. Which is exactly why the couple's close friend Catherine Keener (her husband is Dermot Mulroney who guest starred as 'Gavin' on Friends) has almost cut Jen off completely, disgusted at her self-serving behaviour. You'll note, Catherine was one of Jen's closest galpals, along with Kathy Najimy and the three used to have girls' nights almost every week for years. In recent months, Catherine has made a point of being publicly photographed with Brad, while keeping her distance from Jen. And finally...regarding Angelina and the alleged hanky panky on the Smith set... my source says: 'Lainey, he's straight! Show me a guy who isn't going to get a hard-on when Angelina's lying on top of you all sweaty and skimpy dressed...can you? No! So what makes you think Brad Pitt's going to be able to. But he didn't screw her...for sure. Last summer, he was still really in to Jen. He's a pretty loyal guy. When that (insert bad word here) Gwyneth cheated on him, he was nuts. He'd never put anyone else in that position, you know? But now? Game on man. A guy's gotta do...know what I'm sayin'?' And there you have it. Take it for what you will. Call it bullsh*t if you want. Hell...I want to! But remember this: would that kind of story sell as many magazines as an illicit high profile affair???

Reported On 28/04/2005

Jon LOVES his daughter. He expresses his love the wrong way sometimes, and what father hasn't, but he still LOVES her just the same.
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did he told you that or saw it on tv or read it in tabloid mags??

am i interested about it??? NO...so stop preaching about being a loyal loving daughter...if jon wants to get involve with angie's life...he doesn't need to tell me via news on tv or mags...

as for gossip, do you know that jon has an upcoming movie showing this month??....needs publicity ha...you know pity me party...i love my daughter!!

because she doesn't have a man..only a cucumber...ooooohhh...a vibrator!!

plisi plisi puta puta kisy kisy..kmab

The radiation we received from one long transatlantic fight is equal to the amount of xray on 1 shot of Chest X-ray. the altitude for passenger plane is higher than small plane, therefore , more exposure to radiation. beside after 6 months of pregnancy, all the fetus organ is completed and just growing, therefore, less sensitive to radiation exposure. yes, I think it still look dangerous in small plane, but I think there was coach beside her. AJ is a person who treasure her kids more than anything, I don't think she will jeopardize the health of her unborn kid.

To #77 Mouse Fan..HAHAHAHA you got me rolling on the floor on that one. Absolutely an A lister rejoinder. Poor Mouse got hit by a super slammer. Hahahaha

317, me
........Arms, neck and face that skinny, when you're more than half way int your prgnancy is not normal..... Are you an Obstetrician ? as long as the baby is growing normally, it's alright. some are naturally slim and gain little weight on pregnancy. I think AJ is absolutely gorgeous carrying her pregnancy.
Gwen Stefani's got to be the hottest pregnant woman ever...... Who care. Angie is carrying the baby of the sexiest man on earth.

the real story or whatever your name is,

you are wrong, wrong wrong on most of what you write but you just have to make Jennifer Aniston look bad and you just can't do it. Jennifer and Katherine Kenner ARE still best pals and probably always will be. You see Jennifer is the kind of person who stays friends with a person for life, unlike Angie who doesn't seem to have too many friends at all, if any.
Read the article published this Jan. and see for yourself.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/23/AR2006012301710.html

# 319 | Arora

so true!! i think jen was a good actress/pretender and pretend that she is sweet, kind and gentle...you know brad's exes before the chin, the wild jl, the snooty gp...and then came the "sweetest" (barf) girl and she got jackpot.....woowee....brad the sexiest man alive pay attention to "sweet" (barf) jen and marry her.....wow....she feels like cinderella with her prince...but then the prince discover the tru jen.. insecure, whiny and vain and dumped her...now she is whining again "don't make me your victim coz you make my skin crawls"...that bitch should be kick on her ass to shut her poutiless mouth!!

regardless what you want to say Brad loved Jen and married her and seven years is a long time by hollywood standards. She couldn't have been this rotten person you say she say is if he loved her, and by his own admission he did love her. He said so did many times.

People as rotten as you describe Jen aren't loved by ANYONE. You Jolie fans just have to go on and on about how terrible she is to prove that he left her not because he wanted to fuck Angelina but because she was ugly, selfish, and blah, blah, blah. The world knows Pitt and Jolie starred in a movie together and then had an affair. Except it and admit it already. Stop acting
like first graders who are naive enough to believe otherwise.

And if you don't like what I have to say that's too bad, cause this is a free forum for all whether we like Bangelina or not. You all certainly voice your opinions on Jen whenever you can and LOUDLY. The day this turns into a Exclusive Pitt/Jolie Fan site is when I will stop coming here.

No problem African Girl..... I don't really care who blogs here or even from what vantage they speak from. I just don't appreciate people pretending they are one way and then thinking they can make fools out of us by disguising themselves. Lame. It's why I like Angie so much. Not a fake. I enjoy your posts. Your wit is great.

Lots of peeps here are talking about criticisms and the affect of criticisms. Critiiscm is good. Like everything else in life it has its place and purpose. I am here because I like Angelina...... everything. The dark, the light, the humane, the insane. She is a woman alive in her skin, has a deep mind and lives by the seat her soul. I understand her cause I really relate to her spirit. She validates my own journey. I understand why people judge her and put her down and say the things they do. That happens when you wear your heart on your sleeve and open up yourself. Don't hide behind a facade. She lives in the moment and makes mistakes, contradicts herself. Imagine that? She explores both the light and dark in herself , keeps it real for herself and isn't afraid to share it with the world. No matter what she is doing good, bad or indifferent. She has a courageousness about her that is inspiring. So many people hide behind their alter ego or the "image" they want the world to see. Spending so much time living according to "THEY" "THEM" "The right way". (Whatever that may be)
Living in & out of those two selves and trying to figure out what "they" say is best...... can waste a lot of time in ones life. For me it's about experienceing your own challenges. We all have them. Living for what is expected of you vs. who and what you really are is a loss. No matter where she has been along her path, she hasn't lied about it and I respect her. Thats soul. I also don't believe she is going to change that now. She might have more discretion,and I believe she will continue to be true to herself and strive to evolve her authenticity.

Angie stated along her journey in life when she was younger, she got into some dark places in herself. So alot of people didn't like it. Still don't. Instead of denying who she was during those times, like alot of people do, she explored the darker side of herself as well. She didn't hurt anybody except perhaps herself.... or an all american image. Oh gee. She walks the path of a true human being. A choice that requires an inner strength and self defining character. It's integrity. Raw. Open. Honest. That's not a whore. I personally don't think she cares about what we all think. I don't believe she reads articles on herself or opens herself to what the world wants from her. I don't believe she would want to have that in her subconscious as it might alter the way she lives and/or create negative thoughts that might impede her
passions or redirect her choices to experience and do things she wants. She lives her life and She is very alive in it. That's why even the "haters" are intrigued by her. That aliveness that we all relate to perhaps as fans or for those who are intrigued by it, but just have to many other things in life to do or are just to scared to, can't afford it or can't figure it out yet. . Don't we all wish we could be so alive? These things people criticize her for are the very things that have shaped her into who she is today. So it's all good really. Kissing her brother, exploring her sexuality, being a single mom, adopting, having her own babies and finally finding someone to share it with. She is a warrior.

People can stand on false pedestals and talk about things they can't even relate to and have no experience with. So they criticize. It's a means of them defining who they are and usually has little to do with the other person to whom they reference. All actions are primarily self motivated. We can use movie stars, recording artists, TV Actors. anyone who has a spotlight on them and bounce who we are off them by agreeing or disagreeing. So when I read these blogs it's really entertaining. It's not about who AJ or BP or JA really is. It's about each one of us, me, you and the next one.... just another place to experience our own selves. I am not embarrassed to admit
being here is just another validation for me that it's OK to be alive and know there are others out there like me I can read about. I get validated. Regardless of what other people think.
And tomorrow I will go out and Live my life again making the best towards evolving my own authenticity. And then come back and check on my girl! Don't need to defend her either. She can do it herself.

# 335 | Anonymous
The day this turns into a Exclusive Pitt/Jolie Fan site is when I will stop coming here.
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there are other celebrities in jj's site and one is your idol jen...you are here in an exclusive brangelina thread so it's now time for you to leave...if you don't like what we say about jen...then don't come here and read them...go to the jen's thread and show your support to her...i don't know why you are here on this thread if you like jen and hate brangelina....to spare your feelings of reading nasty comments about jen, again i repeat don't come to this thread that are exclusively brangelina.....

# 333
the article was taken from lainey entertainment com. which alway have juicy gossip which eventually turn true.
C. Keener is a co start in one of Aniston film, it's normal to be nice and polite in public. Angelina is a relative loner but that does not mean she is a bad person. but actually she had friends - her pediatrician, UN co-workers, a few celebrity.

The day they invite me to their wedding is when I will stop coming here!

# 335 | Anonymous
the world ? knows Pitt and Jolie starred in a movie together and then had an affair...........
I'm sorry to tell you not the world ,it's the hard core Aniston fan and the delusional "Golden couple" fans that can not accept their marriage is over . Aniston and Brad should share the same responsibility of the break-up of their marriage. not Brad alone.
please go to # 326 for more detail on what really happen in their marriage.

I would like to comment on Jon V. Regardless of what happened in his marriage to his wife he still abandoned his kids for many many years. He could have nutured along a relationship with Ange & her brother. But he did not. He didn't even try to know his daughter, therefore most of what he knew about her was related to what he heard from magazines, gossip and people who obviously were not close to her. To ridicule your daughter wether it be Jon V or JA's mom, is some true BS***. How anyone could purposefully and publically demean their own kid for their own personal advantage is a form of emotional abuse . That takes some time to heal from. I know people change but unless something really significant occured, like honest accountability and genuine humility I wouldn't want him around my kids messing with their heads. If he did it to AJ and has not attempted to rebuild their relationship, why should it be OK for her kids? I so don't buy into this sappy excuse that just because you are an ole man now all should just be forgiven and forgetten.
Speaking in the press is the best he can do? There is some deeper issues there if that's as close as he can get. W e don't know this man, and if a child isn't comfortable even at 30, there's a big piece to this story we are not privvy to. I could see how much pain was there for both of them when they did Tomb Raider. Obviously that film didn't make things better. Sometimes it's best to leave things alone. Just because you are a parent or a grandparent doesn't make you worthy of being honored. It just means you have kids in your life by procreation and Not necessarily Love & committment. I believe Joliewants both in her life.

I am such a big fan of brad, but when he was with Aniston, I never really liked him much just thought he was some coiffed red carpet husband, he seemed sooo boring then, a little self absorbed, and narcassistic. We all know where he got that from. Now he seems like he's made a complete turnaround and seems like more grounded person interested in other things apart from himself. I heart brad.

Some of you haters act like you care if Angelina talks to her father.
Talk about spending too much time on people you don't give a rat ass about. You should worry about your own life.
Stop preaches because you don't know shit about their relationship.

No I don't believe JA and Catherine Keener (not Katherine Kenner) are best pals and always will be. She was friends with Brad long before he knew JA and is probably cordial to JA but that's probably it. Her loyalties would be to Brad.

JA said marriage was over by summer 2004 (Vogue). JA said it took more than 12 months to get over the marriage, thus summer 2005. Also summer 2005 VF, JA accuses BP for 'sensitivity chip missing'. That means she was OVER the marriage when she accused him in public!

JA exposes her lies on her own; she USED HER DIVORCE for PR, while BP maintained his dignified silence. I can totally believe that BP feels JA is nothing to him now, and he wouldn't want to do anything with her. If he loved her, that is in the PAST. WAY past.

Only JA fans pity her. So, she is saying her fans make her skin crawl. And all this for what, a mediocre career that's going nowhere without a superstar husband.

BAMZ haters' criticisms - ZZZZZZZzzzzzz.......

I just want to say here it was such a laugh to see the paps in Italy in that place Brad and Angelina were supposed to get married. I mean, talk about getting it wrong. The news was even carried by legitimate press. I was just starting to think there's something to it. I still can't believe this thing got so big. I bet neither can Brad, Angelina and George. It's utterly incredible and hilarious. I read that the cafes andrestaurants did rather well in that little town which is nice as this would generally be their slow season. I wonder if George, (and possibly Brad and Angelina) would continue to cry wolf for a few more times and then really show up when no one believes them any more and get married there. That would be really really funny.

#336, YEAH. Thank you for posting that. I feel you on that one. That is why I like this woman. She is a woman living by her own terms and people don't like that. I think this hatred and hostility toward her is because of her undeniable fighting spirit and her looks. I think people are intimidated by her and fear her. I mean it takes courage to say f**k you to the establishment like that and still live to tell about and get the man. Boy, are they pissed.
But seriously, the hateful comments are reflections on the individual writing it not on Angie or Brad

Incidently, having an emotional scarred past or problem is not a CRIME. Nor is MENTAL ILLNESS a crime. These are problems hard to overcome for anyone. I am sure at some point in your life one or each of us will come to the point of having a mental/emotional breakdown. How you choose to deal with it is your choice. Some people talk about it to a therapist, some take drugs, some talk to their gods about it. We all handle it differently. It's all good. That is what makes us human. It's like that song from Seal, Crazy: "but we're never gonna survive unless,
we get a little crazy."

Love Angie Fans...Cindy2, AfricanGirl, the real Lou, Rica, Elena, and all the others fans out there. Keep posting your thoughts and comments your reseach and your criticisms...that is what free speech is all about.

BRAD is looking mighty FINE to me. He looks good. I was never a fan of his until he hooked up with Ms. Jolie. He looks good in his shirt . I am feeling it big time. Hard rugged good looking man...he is no longer the pretty boy. Oooh yeah...I am having a wet dream on this one. (If a woman can have a wet dream of a man..then I am having it.) LOL.....

Be sane, I also read somewhere a couple of months ago--in a fairly legitimate magazine like People or Us--that a friend of Brad's has never seen him so happy; that he's more relaxed because JA made him nervous and that Angie wants him to do what he likes. It's the old saying--if you love something set it free and it will come back to you. It conjured up a picture of JA, cigarette in one hand, whining to Brad (circa 2003 or so) "I don't wanna go to Europe! I don't wanna do charity stuff! I wanna stay here! I don't wanna travel! Why can't you stay here with me!"

Action speaks louder than words.Brad and Angelina have been together and hardly apart since last year being a family.They have that undeniable spark between the two of them.I wish them well and the very best in life-love,happiness,etc..

Action speaks louder than words.Brad and Angelina have been together and hardly apart since last year being a family.They have that undeniable spark between the two of them.I wish them well and the very best in life-love,happiness,etc..

ROCK ON BAMZt1, for fucking with the press once again!! I think they are ALREADY married. Regarding the issues she has with her father; it's none of our bussines. regarding the fact if brad cheated, for the one millionth time, only 3 people know, and that's none of our bussiness. I used to really enjoy this site, the wonderful pictures, the funny comments rica's wonderful fanfic, BUT some of you guys are out of CONTRIOL!!!! I will continue to visit the site, but people, come on, this is suppose to be FUN!!

GUT feel that poster #231,250, 259, 266, 269,283,285,288,290,294,298,299,305 is the one and same angry individual, who can’t just come up with a name. Honestly, I don’t give a hoot what you say, I just skim through your posts. It’s obvious you just don’t like Brad. That’s your opinion, and we are entitled to ours.
The reason I come and post here is for entertainment, so contrary to what you think, you are not pushing my buttons. If anything, seems you are the one affected with the amount of post you’ve made. As for writing to our soldiers in the war torn countries, I do something better than that, I pray for them continually, and hope God hears our prayers that this wars end, although it almost seems unlikely. So yeah, this beat having to watch the news that has been so depressing.
#336 - AWESOME post, can’t agree with you more. This is the reason I admire Angelina, she’s not perfect, but she sure damn tries her best not just to be a better person, but living life to it’s fullest. And the fact she doesn’t give a rat’s ass what others think. In fact, I read over a year ago, how she jokingly said in reference to people keeping skeleton’s in their closet, as “mine are all over the place”.

And we can beat this dead horse, as to who’s right or wrong over this break-up that is way over long time ago. I have been a Brad fan for a long time, and had read some articles that there were issues between him and Jen before they even got married, but at that time, I didn’t pay it too much attention, because I too was going through a very painful divorce. My ex-husband wanted a divorce to be with a younger woman. It took me years to finally accept that we were wrong for each other to begin with. It takes time to heal wounds, but now we are perfectly fine as friends. And hard as this maybe to believe, but I truly wish him happiness with whomever he may find that with. I even include him in my prayers that God helps him in his needs. That is true love. If you truly love someone, you let them go, if they are truly yours, they’ll come back, if not, they were never meant for you. Now, I have met a man who I feel God reserved for me, and we are getting married next month. Yep, part of the reason I pop in here is to avoid the stress of all this wedding preparations! :D The point I am trying to make? Give Angie and Brad a chance. I feel destiny brought them together. If they had met sooner, they MAY not have lasted, but given that they are now both more mature and wiser, they stand a better chance. And as I have said in the past, Paul Newman and Joan Woodward, and Ron and Nancy Reagan were not each other’s first spouse. And look at them… they lasted a lifetime.
African girl, real Lou, Cindy2, Ange, and all the BAMZ+1, as usual, I always enjoy your posts. Always entertaining, insightful and enlightening. :)

I see with my eyes, no reading into anythingt here.

have three hours to kill and I needed a laugh.. you guys just need a comment thrown in there slapping you back into reality every so often. Jon Voight. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!! Who cares why they don't speak? At the end of the day does it effect you NO!! Or maybe some of you looloos think it does. I joined a program writing to soliders in Iraq... maybe you could use some of your story telling.... Africangirl...cindy2...juno

Ooooppss! I forgot to remove poster#250 out of my cut and paste from word doc. Sooorry!!! :))

Wendy I started counting the number of posts and different "names" you used and gave up as there are so many. You are very easy to identify, as you spew the same garbage . Do you live on this site? I think Elena is right about you and your other personalities for how can someone as hateful and nasty as you are here be any different in real life? You have such a horrible attitude here that it is hard to not believe that you are like this in your real life. I feel sorry for those close to you as you must be soooo mean to them,.

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Nope I like this thread and I'll stay here as long as I like and make whatever comment I like. What I should've said is the day this belongs to you, which it doesn't and will never be . So shut UP already. HATE the bamz and always will hate the cheaters. Hope they get whats coming to them.

Excuse me... not agreeing with you all makes me mean to everyone in my life. Do you see unicorns? Where the hell are you from? I think BP is not looking so good? And.... I am voicing my opinion.. I have to read through your crap so you will read mine.. you don't like it? LUMP IT!!! Like one poster said before this is not an offical fan site. Everyone is welcome to come here and say what they like. To the one poster who said that praying for the soliders is better than writing them? You must be kidding. I went on that site...take a minute from your BUSY life and go to it. Hopefully YOU WON'T BE SO FULL OF HATE!! I guess everyone in your life must be depressed around you!! Sounds stupid huh?

#336, Keeping it real @ 3:01am...

Such a great post! You are a nightowl, it seems? That is usually my time up and reading, often the only time available...sorry I missed a chance to answer you in real time last night. Your observations were so clearly from living life. I think I am a fan for the same reasons, although not because I relate to her and her courageous approach to life, but the opposite. She is all I never was, and at some point you regret living your life the way you think others want you to. What a waste of time that turns out to be! So she is someone I admire very much, mistakes and terrible decisions and immature judgement and all. One thing she REALLY got right: Pass on Colin and pass on Val--wait for Brad!

#308, African girl...

Just a great message also. I think we do seem to take for granted that we have this opportunity to speak to people from all over the world ! It is so fantastic, and yet what do we do most of the time? We do silly things like drool(me) over Brad and waste the chance to learn from each other. A while back everyone mentioned the city and state they were writing from. Wish we could do the same for the country we are writing from. Thanks, I always enjoy your contributions.

#353, Juno @12:46pm...

Also thoroughly enjoyed your message, and I do relate to your experience...I had the same thing happen. And so true... late, late at night years later, after so many tears and so much pain, I was suddenly aware of the truth-- we were never right for each other. It was all so clear in just that one moment in time when it came to me, and I was finally able to let it go and find peace. One question: no need for specifics, but how did you meet your fiance? Friends? Work? Internet? Dating service? I would love to know...

"I would like to comment on Jon V. Regardless of what happened in his marriage to his wife he still abandoned his kids for many many years. He could have nutured along a relationship with Ange & her brother."

[Okay people, if you're willing, you're gonna have to reduce the font on your screen for this one. Go to your internet browser menu, go to View, then Text size, then pick a font that's appropriate].

There have been many times my father did the laundry, did the grocery shopping, drove me to school, threw out the garbage, took care of the car and the household, picked me up at work, took care of my dogs and my unhealthy mother, and financially supported us. But he was emotionally cold. He knew how to talk to me, always sparking a debate over anything. He was always a kind man, but he was, here comes the bad part, emotionally, mentally and verbally abusive. He never cussed us out or anything but he might as well have and he tended to degrade and criticize and constantly nag my mother and I for every little thing we did. I’d tell him to stop because it’s like poking a bear and you know what the result is. A lot of anger, screaming, yelling, fighting and arguing. Sometimes those fights in our family became physical. And my father would never let up with his verbal abuse. It drove my mother crazy, which I think contributed to her lack of health and depression. At my age of 26, while my mother was in another country on a long much needed vacation, and I had finally moved out of state, far, far away, my father was left alone at home for the first time in 30 years. My mother and I joked that he use to threaten to leave us and live on his own and now he got what he wanted.

But one week, after I decided to change my cell phone number, and had given my new number to my dad, an 'A-HA!' moment (as Oprah puts it) came to me later on. My cell phone was his only way of contacting me, his only daughter. Well, he’s almost 70,and although he will never admit it, stubborn as the old man is, he has somewhat of a memory problem now. And he forgot that I had given him my number. Well, I hadn’t spoken to him for maybe around 3 days only. It was not that long. All of a sudden, the security guard and building manager of my apartment building were banging at my door continuously. I didn’t want to answer because I was inappropriately dressed, just woke up, and don’t like answering the door unless I know why you’re coming. I thought they were just trying to bother me about getting something fixed in my apartment. And I thought it could wait. But they wouldn’t let up. Getting angry, I just went about my business getting ready in the morning and undressed to get in the shower. As I was in my towel, naked, in the bathroom, I heard someone OPENING my apartment door. I was just about to lose it! I thought, are these idiots crazy?? Couldn’t they WAIT to frickin fix something in my apartment??? I half way opened my bathroom door, and yelled, “WHAT’S THE PROBLEM??!!!!!!” The building manager, a foreigner, said, “Oh sorry, I wanted to tell you that your father called me several times today.” Stumped and pissed that this was his reason for opening my door illegally and realizing he‘s still looking at me half naked, I said, “OOOKKKAAAY, U CAN GO NOOOW!!!”

I immediately called my father and screamed and yelled at him for calling my building manager, of all people. He admitted that he ASKED the building manager to open my door! I said “Are you nuts! I am 26 years old! You have no right to do that!” For the love of God, he just couldn’t comprehend that. He said that I was the one being ridiculous for even saying that. I was amazed at how my father STILL thought I was his young girl whom he had a right to demand whatever it is he demanded of me as well as protecting me. I always had a problem with my father’s over protectiveness, but this was ridiculous! He thought something had happened to me and I was either dead or missing. I told him, what I do with my damn life, whether or not it be a trip out of the country for several weeks, without telling him, WAS NONE OF HIS BUSINESS AND TO LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE! But, of course, his tactic worked and I made sure that I did not go long without calling him.

Then later on when I saw the interviews and read comments made by Jon Voight where he begged everyone through the media to help contact his daughter, as outrageous as it is, and found out that Angelina hadn’t spoken to her father for 5 years, I was amazed. I started to compare my father to her father and thought, what a couple of crazy guys. They’re so annoyingly over emotional. What’s their problem?

But I thought about it more and more. Despite how our parents act, with all the “evil” things they’ve done to us, but still LOVE us, we ALL tend to blow things out of proportion. But I realized that a father’s love is REAL. It is very real. We take for granted men’s love for their children because they are so bad at showing it. I realized, with all the embarrassing interviews Jon did, with the letter he wrote his daughter, with him calling her trip off,…. this man was DEMANDING (like my father) and wouldn’t let up! Jon may be going about things the wrong way in his children’s life. And like my father, his relationship with his family is toxic or non-existent, but he still LOVES his children. I could have easily blamed my father and spread nasty things about him, like Angelina has, and WOULD BE JUSTIFIED IN DOING SO. But this incident where he got someone to TRACK me down, while being at the adult age of 26, made me realize he is at an age where he can’t lose me. If he died knowing that I wasn’t around, he would not have a restful death. And being as old as he is, he doesn’t want to leave this world without having his wife and daughter in his life, despite how badly he goes about handling things with us. I hope one day he will realize that all the hurtful things he says, still not realizing they are hurtful, will affect HIM one day if he ever lost my mother and I. I hope he will realize that it is a regretful thing he did to us and still does. But he still has not realized that, or maybe he has since he's alone right now. But I can't be angry at him for his lack of knowledge in how to be a family. I can't change him or his awkward personality. But I am not going to allow it to affect me anymore and I will handle it a different way instead of getting angry at him all the time. A father is not a husband or a boyfriend you leave because they havent treated you right. He’s your father. He may not show his love and care like an endearing mother. He may not have given you birth, but he will always be connected to you.

How I came to this conclusion, was by letting go of all the anger. Once you do that, you will have a more level head. Problem is, I didn't let go of all the anger until a series of traumatic events happened to me the year before all this with my father happened. When these traumatic events happened, I went into a hole. While I was in this hole, I did something unforgiveable out of anger. When I realized what I had done, I never again became as angry as I was for my whole life. I learned to let go. That's why, Angelina must do the same. She must let go of the anger before something traumatic happens to make her realize it.

Going back and forth today between the NCAA games and this site to check on the Brangelina marriage issue, I thought I'd lost it or my eyes were playing tricks on me. I left the computer and tuned in on the games, only to see this in the left corner of the T.V. screen:

BRAD
PITT

I had to blink twice!! What?? EventuallyI figured it out : Bradley had played Pittsburgh this afternoon, and I was seeing the two abbreviated school names. Anyway, GO HUSKIES!!!(UConn fan, too.)

AddictedtoBAMZ+1, I met my fiance' in my church singles group. I joined just to make friends and met wonderful decent people. And yes, I feel blessed. :)
So reply to #357 - moi feeling hate?!? That is so hilarious! :D Either you have low IQ or just too dense not to understand my post. But hey, to each his own. If you want to be angry and annoying by all means, stay that way. Although being a spiritual person, I will add 'peace be with you." :))

I've been visiting this site for a while now and I've gotta admit...this place cracks me up. People here either hate or love Brangelina and there doesn't seem to be any middle ground. I'm firmly on the Brangelina Bandwagon, so that works for me. I don't intend to post often, but I just have to weigh in on a couple of items.

First of all, are people out there EVER going to get over the BP/JA divorce? Give it up already. They've both moved on. I suggest you do the same. Whatever went on in that marriage is between them, and since he's not talking about it. there's been extremely lopsided press coverage in JA's favor. Someone in an earlier post said that there were only 3 people in the world who knew for sure if BP and AJ had an affair during M&MS. But, that's not exactly right - there are 2 people, Brad and Angelina. JA only knows what BP told her and he said he didn't, so it's up to her to believe him or not. If she doesn't believe him, then that's up to her. The one thing that's been constant about BP through the years is that if he's with a woman, he's with that woman only and he doesn't cheat. Ask good old Gwynnie Paltrow - who cheated on him.

My second comment is on the situation with Ange and her father. Some people here say she should forgive him and give him another chance. Here's another subject on which the only people who know for sure what their history is are the people involved. Although Angelina has said over the years that her father hurt her mother by being a serial cheater and wasn't there for her childhood (and most of her adulthood!), no one really knows the particulars of what he specifically did or said to her that has so broken her heart (other than comment that she's nuts and needs psychiatric help). Clearly she has tried to breach that chasm in the past (i.e., Tomb Raider era), but to no avail. Apparently she has reached a point in her life where she knows it's not good for her to be around her father. Although AJ can be a bit of a flake, maybe, just maybe, she knows what's best for her and her children AT THIS TIME. That's not to say that she'll never be able to patch things up with her father. For others to say so definitively that she needs to get over her bad feelings and give the man another chance just isn't fair to her. Who knows, maybe JV doesn't deserve another chance? Once again, that's something that only Ange and her immediate family know and they're not saying. What I do know is that if I were AJ, I would not appreciate my father running to the press and airing our grievances every time I didn't respond to his requests to meet or talk. That's just low. He's not making the situation any better by making public pleas and whining that she won't talk to him.

Thirdly, there's this debate on whether or not Ange is too skinny during her pregnancy. As other have noted, all women carry differently. I work with a woman that is so skinny I just knew she had to be anorexic or bulimic or both. Turns out that looks are very often deceiving. The woman can out-eat grown men 3 times her weight. When she got pregnant she didn't say anything to anyone and no one even knew for the first 7 months. At the end of her 9 months she was like a pregnant stick figure. She only gained 17 pounds. When the baby was born he weighed 8lbs 7oz and she looked like she'd never even been pregnant. The baby was healthy and is a big eater just like his mother.

My last comment is concerning BP looking and being too old to chase after his kids. The man is 42 years old, not 82. Lots of men have children at far more advanced years...like that old windbag hypocrite Michael Douglas. Brad may be looking a little more rugged these days, but he has always been extremely fit physically. You could probably bounce a half-dollar coin off that man's abs. Most men would kill to have BP's body at 22, let alone 42. He's not a pretty boy anymore and hasn't been for a number of years. How he looks now reflects that he's got a life that's more important to him than spending all day primping and shopping and tanning. I'm sure he'll clean up just as well as before when the need arises.

Okay...now that I've got that off my chest I think I'll go back to lurking....

I concur, and eloquently said.

I concur and eloquently said.

People are over the divorce. No one cares that BP is not with JA. It was how the divorce ended which doesnt settle right with people. You just have to accept that people are going to dislike it.

"I would not appreciate my father running to the press and airing our grievances"


Angelina aired everything about her father and family and personal life on tv and interviews. So as someone said earlier, that gave Jon permission to speak up as well. And if he could reach Angelina through her mother and brother, then he wouldn't go to the media. But apparently they're not helping him to speak with her, because she refuses to speak to him for the past 5 years.

Maybe Jon would have not made a good father. My father did his fatherly duties but at the age of 5, I knew my parents should have gotten a divorce. Instead they didn't and my life was ruled by a man who tended to verbally abuse us, even though he didnt realize it.

Angelina has had leverage with her money, so it's easy for her to not talk to him fo years on end. I can understand they have a toxic relationship and that he was never there for her, but holding anger against someone who cannot help who he is, is not going to help.

Some of you said that it was a good thing JA and BP divorced because they werent happy with each other at some point maybe. Same thing with Jonn and Marcheline. Jon stated in an old interview in the 70s or 80s that Marcheline and him were just not right for each other. And he took the blame for his cheating and for not being there for his kids a hundred percent.


But would it have been a good thing for them to have stayed together? I see so many marriages where the couple just fight like crazy and the wives and children suffer for it, like my mother and I did.

My father was always there for my mother and I, but I to this day believe that he should have lived on his own, because he was not the marrying type. He was a loner. He fulfilled his fatherly duties out of obligation. But no one was happy in our family. It hurt us, more than helped us.


Angelina needs to make the most of what she can with a man who wants to see her. There are many fathers who are abusive or do not want to have anything to do with their children at all. Although Jon's been a bad father, he still loves his children.

#359 Francine- Thank you for sharing something so personal with us. This is why so many of us are here because of the personal contact and connection that is shared with us....

Each situation is different. It may be your friend, your child, your parent or your mate who hurts you...

“He cheated on me. I forgave him. Then he cheated on me again and I forgave him again and then he cheated on me and I can’t forgive him anymore.”

People confuse forgiving someone with trusting someone. You can forgive someone without trusting them. You can trust someone without forgiving them.

A forgiving person is someone who calms down quickly. It is always a shock when someone you trust and care for does something mean or hurtful to you. Your first tendency is either to run away or hurt them back. Somehow or other, you have to absorb the shock and resist the temptation to just react. You need time to think and calm down.

One time, a few years ago, I started to rage at my youngest child. He was ten. His older sister stepped between us and slapped me in the face. She was protecting him.

Time stopped. I don’t know which of us was more shocked. Somewhere in the back of my mind I knew that I didn’t know what to do. The temptation to slap her back wasn’t all that great, thank goodness. But at the same time, I knew that I had to do something. I said to her, “This is important. I need time to think. I want you to be grounded until you and I talk about this. Not today, though, and maybe not tomorrow.” I think that was the first time I understood forgiveness.

Forgiveness is a shock absorber. A car has a two layer system for dealing with the bumps in the road. First there are the springs. Springs aren’t enough. When a car hits a bump the springs absorb the bump all right but, if it weren’t for the shock absorbers, the car would bounce up and down, up and down, up and down so much that you couldn’t steer. The job of the shock absorbers is to make the car calm down so you can control it.

In order to be forgiving, you have to have two layer system. One layer takes the hit. Ouch! The second layer says, “Calm down. Don’t just react. Stop and think. Decide what action you want to take.”

All this is different from Trust. The forgiving person handles trust this way: “If you’ve done something to hurt me, I will forgive you. Which is to say, I’m not going to go after you and make you pay for what you did. But I am going to change my mind about what I can comfortably expect from you.” Forgiveness is about the past; trust, about the future

How often do you forgive someone? As often as necessary, seventy time seven it says in Scripture.

But aren’t you leaving yourself vulnerable to being hurt again and again and again? No. Because forgiveness is not about safety. Those matters are referred to the Trust department.

Trust is like a credit rating. You can blow it and you can build it up again. It is based on the history of your actions. History predicts the future. What can you comfortably expect of this person in the future? It’s not a personal matter.

The discipline of forgiveness makes things not personal. Forgiveness sets aside the wishful thinking and the fearful thinking, the bouncing back and forth. It makes the question simpler: what can you comfortably and confidently expect in the future?

Trust can be about all sorts of important relationship issues: Will they cheat on me? Will they listen? Will they criticize me? Will they pressure me to act differently? Will they try to take advantage of me? Will they be able to hear my complaints?

We build a profile of trustworthiness for our potential partners as well as friends and family. This profile becomes one of the supporting pillars of an intimate relationship. How safe is this relationship? How much can I relax into it? How much can I be just plain, old me? These are important, vitally important questions. Forgiveness, the ability to think clearly despite shocking news, helps you answer those questions.

I say from the statements she has made about her father; she has forgiven him but he has yet to earn her trust. Until she trusts him, being the mother she is, is hesitant to expose her children to him. That is her right to choose and not us or the media.

Hello,
After last night, I figured it was best to let everything die down and I am glad it has. Whew!

So today is Sunday and still no wedding! The only pictures that have surfaces so far are of the paparazzis themselves. That has got to be the most hilarious thing I've seen all day...all week. Seriously though, who really thot they were going to get married on saturday? That was too easy and very unlike Brad and Angie. Oh well, it was nice to have a good laugh.

Keeping it real, again u have managed to snap us back to reality. Thanks for your matter of fact posts, it always comes at the right time. (I have to confess that every third sentence out of my mouth now is "keep it real". Is there something wrong with me?)

Juno and New comer @362 (passing through, Why? We are not nuts...really we aren't) anyway thanks you too for sharing your life experiences with us. Juno congratulations on your new guy and hopefully he is the bone of your bone and flesh of your flesh. Oh, by the way, there is not wrong with praying. Passing through, it is nice that you are finally getting over the hurt from your childhood. It is perplexing that the ones who supposed to love us unconditonally are the ones who can hurt us the most.

AddictedtoBamz+1 I couldn't stop laughing when I read your second post about the Brad & Pitt. You really are addicted (lol). You have a great sense of humor and I hope you do meet the right guy for you. Someone who will smile lovingly as you chat with your online Bamz family. He is out there.

Today has been a slow day....which is good. We all need the break, don't you think? Or it could be the calm before the storm...LOL. Take care guys.

#365.... No one is saying that her dad should stay married to her mom if it wasn't working... but when u divorce u don't divorce your kids, u're supposed to be there for them and not because someone force or beg u, but because u want to....

Re: Someone's comment upthread about Gwyneth Paltrow--I never liked her (she seems so full of herself) but I did like her a little more after that comment she made a short while back-- She said she didn't know Angie at all, but that she seemed very "intriguing". But then, who know if GP was just trying to screw with JA--there's probably no love lost between those two. Oh, Brad, you and your women!

Also the comments about Angie being too thin are misguided. There's an old notion that "the baby takes what it needs" from the mother, and in my experience it's true. I puked my guts out throughout both my pregnancies (and still gained a lot of weight, alas) and ate very strange things and my kids were both big healthy babies. American women on the whole are healthy and well-nourished when they conceive. She'll be fine.

were is brad and angelina now?

Elena, I just read your comment and I agree with you. Forgiving someone is not the same thing. It is okay to be weary of someone who has hurt you in the past. Like you said, Trust is like a credit rating (I really, really like that). Trust is also something that needs to be nurtured. It is something you earn.

I saw this somewhere and I thot it would be very relevant to our discussion.
Trust is a decision
The bestowal of trust is a gift; its maintenance a reward.
Trust engenders trust; distrust engenders distrust.
It is far better to trust and be disappointed in a person that a distrust and be disappointed in life.
Trust differs from blindness as love differs from obsession.
The proper limit of trust is prudence not fear.
Trust permits risk, which permits change, which permits growth.
Trust in the future is called hope.
Hope, like all forms of trust is based on a combination of desire, experience, and will.
Without hope, life is not possible.

I have read that like a billion times but it never really sank in until recently. Bottom line, Trust is very important and very fragile. We should consider ourselves honored when someone tells us they trust us. We should also understand that once we have abused the trust placed in us, we have to work hard to gain it.

Forget about all the money she has or her status as a "famous star", at the end of the day, she is still a daughter who's been deeply hurt by her father, not just once.

Chanel I have to admit, I am stalking you right now. Again with the questions? Never more than two sentence. Let's see "where are brad and angie now?" "are the married yet?" "Are they in paris" "did they leave for italy" it is too funny. Like i said, earlier no one seems to know. Now you've got me looking for sign of them so I can have something for poor Chanel. The quest continues. Will Chanel ever find out the where abouts of Brad and Angie? Find out on our next installment of "Chanel seeks Brad and Angie".

I hope you know that I am just messing with you? I will help you find them okay?

will u ppl get a grip who cares where they r ur as bad as the freaken paps and no they arnt married and wont be getting married brad is with a uterus, a baby making machine, and once she has his first born the trouble will start and hes taking his kid and gonna find someone more like him and what his actual marriage was about, why would he marry joli when hes getting his milk and calf for free??? come on u r so caught up in the romance of relationships u have ur heads stuck up ur arses, mark my words and give me ur best shots here u all know im right and its gonna kill u all to one day admit it caio and come on lets hear all ur stupid put downs and messed up dreams

# 356 | Anonymous

welcome to the bamz+1 thread bitch...you r counted despite ur asinine comments..numbers of visitors to the bamz thread are counted to make my idols more popular!! ...and kmab!!

# 373 | u got to be kidding!!!!

cut the crap moron you're just so jealous....

jealous of what 375? u r romancing the idea that pitt will marry a cow he has for free he wanted a kid and ones on the way, when its here, hes gone with it to his normal straight family to give it virtue and morals. think for 1 minute how often was joli in any kind of magazine in 2003? answer is none well not none billybob took her along but she wasnt idolized then she took the gig at the un cause she was dried up and nothing better to do--she wasnt in the magazines or news worthy pitt put her there she was basically nothing till he came along and my guess u didnt have a word to say about her back then did u? of course not he will not marry the cow that old saying comes from somewhere and bud this is one of those moments hes got a cow and a calf for free he wont marry her bet ur bottom dollar on that one on the other hand jen will marry not vince shes gonna hook up with someone who makes brad look like yesterdays garbage and have some beautiful babies and all u old crows on here will be hackling for days tell me how many men u have beating down ur doors at this moment the majority of u would probably make my eyes bleed so u have to have something to get urselves through the day and so u come on here begging for info where r they?? duh where do u think they r?? anywhere and everywhere like a pack of gypsys paris is free from paps?? didnt princess di come to a fatal end in paris from being chased down a street in paris? omg u ppl r too much for me u believe everything u read about them well guess what i have some land in florida that pitt lived by dont mind the swamp its really where he swims whenever hes in the area

#373:Nice try. We see what you are trying to do. Not working.
DELETE.

#376 I wouldn't call having ONE CHILD a baby-making machine -- try two or three. After all, Maddox and Zee were adopted, not made by her uterus. Also, Jennifer will have beautiful babies -- when? She's 37 -- not exactly the best age to have a baby, let alone babies. Believe me, after 35 it is HIGH RISK to have a baby, let alone babies. Jen may have one -- but I don't think so.

U got to be kidding, what are u saying? You are rambling.....cow for free...blah...joli....blah...blaah. Jeez, relax and state your point like a normal, intelligent person. I know you are just seeking attention. You admitted yourself "give me your best shot" but the thing is your ramblings don't even deserve our worst shot. So go back to drawing board and come back with something better than the crap u wrote.

378 u must be a duh!!!since when cant a woman over 35 go on to have children and notice its plural??? u must be living in the dark ages women can have children until their change of life do u know what thats called??? in the dark ages before we had ulta-sounds and a magnitude of other tests it might have been high risk but not now---but then of course a 20 year old girl who has a rough pregnancy and perhaps a sick child is considered a what? high risk? i think not joki is having pitts first child and it will be his last--with her hes gonna take his baby to his parents and get a clue....her ass will be grass,, lets see how often u see him carrying the adopted children then...did i not read somewhere that he asked joki to take it easy with this pregnancy cause its his first child and she had to correct him by saying its his third??? duh he was right the first time--its his first---in 5 years maddox and zahara will have a new step-daddy probably vince!!!!hahahahaha how ironic will that be hahahahah

# 376 | u got to be kidding!!!

and now i know that you are really so pathetically jealous...ranting... rambling like a pathetic loser you are....sigh...yawn...next...

# 380 | u got to be kidding!!!

jealousy is thy name....loser!!

o 379 since u cant read, that u think my post is rambling---shouldnt u go open ur door and see how many men u have standing there beating on it to get in....tick...tick...back so soon....none huh? ya i kind of guessed!!!

u got to be kidding

is so jealous.....wooweee....neh neh neh...is jealous!! is so jealous and envious....nobody is paying attention to her in the real world so she comes to the cyberworld seeking attention with full of envy and jealousy....don't worry.....come to papa.....kissy kissy......phewww...you smell so nasty...stinky...hmmmm...that's why nobody pay attention to you in the real world ha?? no siiiirrrreeee...you smell stinky and nasty!!

384 hey thats ur own nasty self ur smelling doll--but then i guess sitting on the com with ur re-inforced chair for hours on end looking for someone, anyone to tell u were the gypsys r this very moment is hard work for u---but u know darlin u wont miss anything if u go and wash that nasty thang of urs...but then why bother...nobody at ur door either huh?

Elena, Francine, Passing through, African Girl and others, wow, those have been great posts. For me, pictures of BAMZ’s are nice but what keeps me coming back are the great posts you get about the issues raised by the BAMZ family.

Elena, your comments about forgiveness and trust are so well put. Once I read, them I understood consciously what I understood intuitively. AFrican Girl, I liked the poem on trust.

I think Francine is correct to say that unless you have resolved your issues with your Dad, relationships with a significant other male – your boyfriend, fiancé, husband are often unhealthy. I think however, what resolution of ones issues with ones dad means, must vary with the circumstances.

Example 1: Suffice to say, I was the Disappointment (second girl, should have been first boy) and I was terrified of my Dad – he could be bitingly sarcastic and critical. We lived in the same house but I would try to disappear from his sight if I could. But Dad was AROUND all my life. When I was 31 y/o and after much therapy on my part, we had a sort of discussion, I forgave him and now, we are friends. That’s our resolution. I married to a good man, we have a child. We are happy and I believe a good functional family.

Example 2: I have a good friend. Her father left the family when she was 5. Hardly saw his family thereafter. Her father fought every bit of money he had to provide for them. When contact was re-established when my friend was in her early 20s, her dad was highly manipulative, pitting my friend’s siblings (she was from a family of 3) against each other. After nearly 5 years of trying, she writes him a long letter to explain why she doesn’t want to have anything more to do with her Dad. Did she forgive him – yes, but she doesn’t want him messing around with her life and her emotions anymore and he just can’t seem to help himself. That’s her resolution. After that, she too met a good guy. They have been happily married for 10 years or more, have 2 kids. may be she'll re-establishe contact but when she is ready.

I don’t know if AJ’s has resolved her issues with her dad. It’s interesting to note that her turning point from self destructive behaviour happened about the same time, 5 years ago. She did Tomb Raider 1 and started helping poor Cambodians and doing UNHCR work realizing that she had been a selfish, self pitying bitch. She adopted Maddox and realized that she was a good person, a good friend and may be even a good mother. In any case, she realized that she couldn’t be self destructive anymore. She left BBT when she realized that he was not going to be good for Maddox and for her. She cut off ties with her Dad whom she felt was destructive to her peace and her health. She stopped smoking during Tomb Raider 1 and hasn’t really started again – except possibly for an occasional puff. She took stock of her relationships with men and for a period of 12 months or more, not even having a sexual relationship with any person ( I’m going by her interview with Barbara Walters.) It wasn’t just one thing but a whole set of consistent actions that suggest that she has taken steps to get well and remain healthy.

Whether her relationship with Brad is healthy or not for the both of them, only time will tell. But if it isn’t, I think she knows how to take the right actions to be healthy.

#367 African Girl... I LOVED what you wrote about trust. I have printed it and put it in my notebook for personal inspiration on those occasions when I need encouragement. Thank you.

Trust is like Respect and Integrity so strong and yet so vulnerable.

388...there we have it my friend....a brad pitt-angelo joli fan....nasty trash just like ur idols...now it all makes sense to me....i will not include u in the "normal" ppl who like pitt and joli because u my friend r not normal and r a disgrace to the ppl u support, go look at urself in the mirror and be proud of urself because no one else is----lady u make my eyes bleed and am actually ashamed for u, since u dont have the brains or decency to be ashamed of urself----at least with the other posts that didnt agree with me or were slightly insulting i appreciated them---u r not worthy of any more of my time, so while ur washing ur nasty body take the soap to ur mouth too because if this is the way u talk on the com i can only imagine what kind of garbage spews out of ur fat face

#389 you seem to have gotten what you wanted. So can this whole thing stop? I am not demanding (not that I have the power to) I pleading to that part of you that I know/hope is reasonable. Read the posts, I know there are alot of them so maybe you could start from the last fifty. I believe you will see that this is more than "drooling over pictures". Thank You.

For everyone else, I am glad you like the poem. It is so funny that that poem has been hanging on a calender in my sister's study and I never gave it more than a passing glance until recently.

Tonight turned out really nice, didn't it? Well have a nice night, people.

#367, African Girl and #386, lylian...

You both brought such thoughtful stuff to the table, so thanks. It is wild that your posts by chance get sandwiched between the insane stuff from today's most prolific contributor, "u got to be kidding!!!" Are these real, or is it a Persona, like anonie mouse, only not quite as brilliant? Kind of a bummer, but I think "u" is playing. No one can really be this bad.

"u" is deleted. lol. thanks jared.

cindy and jjoy,

if you ever visit to corpus christi college, you can find this portrait of christopher marlowe, where you can find in the top left hand corner his age, the date and his motto:

ANNO DNI AETATIS SVAE 21 1585

QVOD ME NVTRIT ME DESTRVIT

to:African Gir look what is ur problem i just want to know were are they why are u so mean hellow wtf is ur problem i already know were are they ok so stop being mean and stop acthing so cool beacouse your making ur self a clown okay bye bye

I want to read rica's previous fanfics. Can someone help me find them.

Rainee,
Just go Archives, scroll down and find the thread for BRAD PITT NYC. That;s where Rica's fanfics are.

Thanks

cindy2, is that right..that there's gonna be unrated version of mr&mrs smith? omg if so, i am so elevating right now. =)

#392 kermit...translate please...is he a good man....i'm good!!

Chanel, what in the world was that about? I just thought your post was funny. I didn't mean any offense and I thot I cleared that when I wrote that I am only messing with you. Jeez, cool? Mean? I don't see how you could have jumped to that conclusion if you took my post in the context in which it was written...as a Joke. Apparently, u didn't see it that way so I apologize if you felt victimized in anyway. That cas clearly not my intention. Cool? Mean? Why would I want to do that? This isn't high school.

Again, if that upset you, which obviously it did, I sincerely apologized. This was supposed to be a funny ha ha thing not at your expense.

to:african girl i thought that it wasent a joke well i apologize too

i aready know were is angie and brad they are still in paris and they are still not merrid

kermit...i got the translation....

"Aged 21 in 1585"
"That which nourishes me destroys me"

don't worry...bamz+1 nourishes me not destroy me!! lol....thanks!!

bamz+1 rocks!!

While Brad and Angelina may be in Paris, I don't think any of us here really know whether they are married or not . For now they have chosen not to discuss facts about their personal life . It is interesting that there have been no photos of them since last week.

ya its weird that they dont have new pics of them

BRAD LOVES MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I LOOOOOOVE YOU BRAAAAAAAAAAAD!

YOU ARE GORGEOUS! BRAAAAAAAAAAAD I LOOOOOOOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUU!

BRAAAAAD MARRY ME MARRY ME MARRY ME MARRY ME MARRY ME MARRY MEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

ONG ONG ONG LOVE THA ASS OMG OMG OMG LOVE YOUUUUUUUU BRAAAAAAAAAAD!

New Brad pic's......

http://popsugar.com/6150

my pleasure, jjoy

this poet, playwright and bisexual was a mystery...alfred tennyson wrote: if shakespeare is the dazzling sun of this mighty period, marlowe is certainly the morning star.

in me thou seest the glowing of such fire,
that on the ashes of his youth doth lye,
as the death bed, whereon it must expire,
consum'd with that which it was nurrisht by.

that's the secret of angelinas tattoo.

but where's cindy?

#408 kermit....did marlowe died at age 21?? that's too young and his poem is too bleak and depressing...i think on those years being different was a taboo and cause for depression and suicide but nowadays...well being different either makes you famous or infamous!!

#407 original jpf

thanks for the info....yep....smoking is addictive and hard to get rid off...and i don't care if braddy looks old in these pics....he is no longer a pretty BOY to me...he's a MAN....and my braddy to my angie babe!!

Thanks Kermit, I felt there was more to the words than that. It makes so much sense in the context of the poem.

Rainee and all BAMZ+1 fans,

Rica also has posted "Our Wildest Dreams" on her blog...don't know if you'll be able to get into it if not let her know. It also has Tinseltown tots a daily diary of what the A-list kids are up to when they're all enrolled in an A-list only daycare. She's deleted most of it but three posts of it are left. It is a bit funny. Check it out.

http://brangelinadreams.blogspot.com/

"Whether her relationship with Brad is healthy or not for the both of them, only time will tell. But if it isn’t, I think she knows how to take the right actions to be healthy."

Even if you're divorced, the fact that your ex which u were with for years could go off and have an affair and a baby and adopt another woman's two children in less than a year is the most hurtful thing in the world. The whole point of a marriage is to be there to support your spouse through EVERYTHING and that means career! Jen wanted to have children with Brad and was definitely planning on it, but that got fucked up by his affair with Angelina.

You think that actors don’t LIE? People lie ALL the time! More than you would like to believe. People blatantly LIE and there are a LOT of expert liars! Angelina and the rest of the world LIE, LIE, LIE on a regular basis. She can sit there and scream she didnt have an affair or "had nothing to do with their break up" (now how silly, ignorant, foolish and false does that sound), but it happened. I know people who come off as the most respected, wonderful, most generous people in the world, but they LIE against other people so much, to bring up their own reputation and to make others feel for them and they're good at it! *People who are good speakers are very good liars.*

Despite marital problems, which most people go through, that's not the reason to just up and have a baby with another woman. It meant that your love for your ex was nothing at all. And that's a major deceit in life. That's a very deceitful thing to do.

Let's say JA and BP's marriage was just a sham. That's all the more reason to look at Angelina in a less respectful way, because we thought her values were different (even when she was wild and young, she still had values, which we liked and respected her for). It means that she went for a guy who lied for many years and for whatever shallow reasons or agreed to go along with.

What if Tom Hanks, Michael Douglas, Guy Ritchie, Jude Law all did the same thing that Brad did, to their ex-wives or serious ex-girlfriends or ex-fiances AND didn't have children. Wouldn't you think it were somewhat foolish and odd and going over board without thinking about the other person you left?

Imagine if Nick Lachey did the same thing. That would be the most hurtful thing to watch for Jessica Simpson, whom we all watched on television, because we know how good she is, despite her vanity, and we saw what a fun loving good marriage they had. Imagine if Nick Lachey just up and went and had a baby with a another woman. It means that everything we watched, all the love, playfulness, passionate arguments, caring, were all fake. And that's sad. All those things was probably what BP and JA’s relationship was like, but we didn’t see.

You can take for granted JA and BP's marriage. But they were married and they loved each other and that's not something you take for granted and forget about. Brad may have been gone from the marriage for a while maybe, but I think, when it comes to having a baby with someone else and taking the next relationship to the next level, it takes time to heal or get away from the previous relationship. I mean, he really took big steps - out of passion, most likely. And that's not going to work. People don't realize that Brangelina's relationship most likely moved forward based on passion, not just their decisions on common goals. Relationships like that rarely last long. There are many people who will try to make you think they are right for you and you need to make sure that person’s not caring about you and going along for the ride for the wrong reasons. NOW HOW MANY MEN HAVE DONE THAT?! You know that many, many have.

And I think it was foolish of Angelina to just trust a guy so quickly like that. What we found most lacking about Angelina is that she would just give up her children and her body for pregnancy to the first guy that comes along willing to take care of her kids and go around the world with her. That was tremendously foolish of her. I thought Angela was tremendously careless in making that decision.
Less than a year, is not enough to take such big steps. How does she know he is really true about it? He has millions of dollars, so adopting her kids is easy. Anyone with less money can do it. Look at Woody Allen. Angelina may be just as foolish as Mia Farrow was.

Wow, Jamie, I think some man did a real number on you, you sound so bitter. We don't know what went on in Brad and Jennifer's Marriage, people are just assuming and whether Brad and Angelina last that is also they business. I don't think that Angelina was so blind by passion for Brad that she decided to give up her kids. I know these are your opinions but we all need facts before we pass judgment.

Jamie:
Brad Pitt couldn't stand his "sham marriage" with JA any longer. JA wanted to hang on to him for her carrier. JA said her marriage was over by summer 2004. BP is 42. How long was Brad supposed to wait around for your Saint Jen to 'heal'? I bet even if he started a new family with someone this year or the next, you would still be complaining. BP&JA are past, done, finished, and now FORGOTTEN FAST. Forget it. It's better for your health.

# 412 | Jamie, LA

as #413 and #414 said....when are you going to accept that brad and ja's marriage is kaput...no more!! even if brad waited for 6 months or 5 years to have relationship with another woman...are you going to give your permission and heartfelt wishes for brad for waiting for jen to heal?? is it about angie that makes your hair stand up because brad left jen and chooses angie?? is jen going to get old and die lonely that brad left her or are you the one that is disappointed that there is no more "golden couple"???...just asking a normal question...but hey that's your opinion and this is mine...don't live on the past..live for the future....like my favorite ads sloga says...shoulda..coulda..woulda!!

Jamie-JA was dating and having sex with VV that we know off in summer of 2005...she has already moves on, so why BP has to wait for her to heal?..she is already heal and move on...I think you should too.

no new pictures for so long.. I wonder where Jared is today?

OH NO pictures of Bratty smoking! http://popsugar.com/ He is such a hypocrite always ragging on Jen when he also smoked all the time! Looks like he NEVER quit!

I don't think Angelina would walk down the aisle as pregnant as she is-that would b tacky but she does have her own mind-JA DIVORCED BP! JA DIVORCED BP JA DIVORCED BP! If BP was such a terrible man why didn't he have an affair with any of his other leading ladies while married to JA-He didn't because he is honorable-he didn't have an affair with Angelina either! She said she was just a shoulder to cry on-Hey wasn't JA on the CBS early show this morning? Steve Huvane should be fired and she should hire Pat Kingsley-He has her way too over exposed-a good agent wouldn't have let her do 4 movies back to back nor allow all those magazine covers-And by the way a wise man once said It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt! JA disappear for a while please

regarding new pix of brad smoking. i've never been a smoker, so i don't know how hard it is to quit. i know he is not that dumb to smoke around angie and the kids.........ROCK ON BAMZt1

My brother tried to quit smoking for the last 5 years. It is very hard, since he is always surround with smoker. He is now cutting down to 3 cigarettes per day. Hopefully, BP can do the same. Unfortunaly most parisian are smoker, not a good place for him to quit smoking.

# 418 | Anonymous | March 20, 2006 04:08 PM

Nope, he wasn't always ragging on Jen about smoking. The model/actress wannabe April Floria was suppoesed to have said Brad told her he hated Jen's chain smoking, and come to find out, April F says he never said that, but US Weekly took it out of context.

What's with the Brad Pitt was stolen from his happy marriage to Aniston? Or that Angelina got pregnant while he was married?

Aniston filed the divorce in March, 2005. That meant that they had both agreed to split up and set each other free. Brad's first move was in April, when he flew to where Angelina and Maddox were (England, I believe). They've been almost inseparable since then. But then Aniston has also been linked with Vince V. at the same time line. So who was being unfaithful to whom?

Furhtermore, the judge approved the divorce in August, 2005 although it wasn't handed down until October, 2005. Angelina got pregnant in September. So they decided to celebrate a little early. It still doesn't discount the fact that the divorce was already done!

Aniston fans and the bashers, move on like the 4 people in this drama have done!

Brad Pitt looked good when he was with Aniston because he was younger and carefree then. Besides, he would look good with Jennifer because he has always been prettier than Jennifer. Of course, he'd stand out. Angelina is prettier than Brad Pitt so besides being more responsible now and shedding his Hollywood gloss, he would look a whole lot mature and not so salon perfect.

Whatever you say about him, it still doesn't change the fact that he is freakin' BRAD PITT. He will never go for anybody but an exceptional woman, and he would always be the rich, sexy A-list personality that commands attention.

That is what you want for Aniston. Her arm candy who also happens to be her crutch had left her side to be with somebody else. To your perception, Angelina could have set her target on anybody else and would have gotten that guy. Just not BRAD. It was overkill and you couldn't accept it.

Even if Brad and Angelina break up now, do you think he'll ever go back to Jennifer? Not bloody likely. So give it up. MOVE ON and leave us alone here so we can continue with our chit chat. GEEZ!

I would not respect a person who stays in a marraige just so the public doesn't think he is an asshole.. Why would any sane person do that? Obviously he wasn't happy and he took a huge chance on love , but life is short you have to try..

"Wow, Jamie, I think some man did a real number on you, you sound so bitter."

LOLOL, Alexanderina, HOW MANY TIMES R U FANS GOING TO BRING UP THAT SAME DULL HEADED EXCUSE??

Get over your fuckin self! I've never been cheated on. BUT I'M SURE YOU BRANGELINA FANS HAVE!

I m remarking on the lives of celebrities. Going to the the GRADE SCHOOL LEVEL and remarking on the personal lives of others you dont know anythng about BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER DONE INTERVIEWS LIKE THESE CELEBS HAVE is getting OLD and repetitive.

$418 - Who told you BP ragged on JA for smoking, oh yeah you got it from the tabliod

Joy, people have already accepted that IT'S OVER between JA and BP! That's not the real issue here.

The real issue here is how is a self proclaimed philanthropist and activist siren like the oh so dreamy Angelina, going to give up her belly and her KIDS to a man that doesnt even know how to stay in one relationship for long. I mean the man's 40 years old and he still cant keep a relationship going. So, what does he do? He goes and has a ababy with the first sex vixen that comes along.

What a joke!

Juliette Lewis, Gwynesth Paltrow, Jennifer Aniston and now Angelina Jolie. Wow. Big fucking deal. That's not a guy who can't stay in a relationship. That's guy who stays with one woman for a good length of time and then gets out of it when it doesn't work out. Sounds like a pretty good track record to me.

Gwyneth, not Gwynesth--better put my glasses on, eh.

Jamie Jamie Jamie, why are you getting so defensive, if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen and by the way you Stupid Cunt I have never been fucked over by anymore or cheated on

Jamie,it takes two people to form a relationship.Lining up six movies in a row doesn't exactly say,hey I put my marriage first and want to start a family.Grow up.

I agree with you Estelle. Paris is not a place for somebody who wants to quit smoking. I have been there only 3 times and was very bothered by the cig smoke. It seems like everybody smokes there. I hope he will be able to quit eventually though.

african girl, jjoy,

used to be so proud of this tattoo...

now it looks like it would explode at any time.

it's a little bit funny, actually.

Well, the two lunatic haters were busy over the weekend, to say the least. So, I'll have to give my quick thanks to Elena, African Girl, Cinnabana, Juno for your support and defense (if I left anybody out, please forgive me as I skimmed through the posts).

#221- Elena,

You're my new hero!! Awww shucks, you're awfully kind but gosh dang it, you're making me blush!! (Mind you, that's the most color I've had in my pale face in awhile! I can toss out the Jergens glow skin lotion if you're always there to make me blush.)

Anyhow, I feel the same about you! I've been meaning to reply to some old posts that go deeper into it, but alas I can't keep up with my own long posts! lol

Angelina needs a bigger fan base and Cindy2 gets paid by how many people she "converts". ROTFLMAO
# 238 | African Girl | March 18, 2006 01:38 PM

Wouldn't that be a great gig, huh, African Girl?

Meanwhile hater has to divide herself as Linda from Lea, azure, Kelly to emily, xtina, Bean, LB, wendy, Jamie, etc. to make themselves look popular. Whatthe... is no doubt the hater undergoing multiple personality disorders with telling us to get a life. I can't wait until Jared puts a stop to their posting under multiple names, as if they think they're outnumbering us.

There's too much to catch up with this thread with my comments. So I'll add my long reply for later. Haters can't deter me!!

And I'll get back to you my asthmatic chihuahua.